Nice rig. I just bought a '22 Pro w/ M/T. I also opted for 295/75/17's but went with Patagonia M/T 02's. I've had good luck with them in the KY/ TN weather, rainy roads, on hills & rock terrain in the past. Also a lighter tire when compared to Nitto trail graps. I have minimum rubbing on mine but I have yet to do a body cut or suspension lift from the 2" Pro lift that came factory.
Thanks man! That's sick not many brands make the 295/75/17 it usually just the 295/70. I rubbed for the first time in over a year wheeling last week and it was also very minor.
Forget that cutting up a nice truck just for 35s. I have 285/70/r17 on a 3in front 1in rear no rubbing and didnt have to cut anything. Thanks for the video explaining things
Exactly not to mention the rabbit hole of other things to do like gears and terrible mpg if you don't etc... I'm glad I stopped at this size a good happy medium. Thank you for watching!
That was well presented and thought out. Those MT Baja Boss are awesome tires. I have a 4Runner and stayed with the stock TRD Pro wheels and installed 255/80 R17 (33") "pizza cutters." I stayed within 2.5" of lift. Because I kept the same offset, I didn't have to do a BMC. I found that because of the additional weight to my rig and the increased size of the tires, I was really negatively impacting the performance of the vehicle in addition to adding considerable stress to the drivetrain. So, I did a regear to 4.56. The difference is night and day. It's doing better now than when it had 265s on it. You're definitely on the right track.
Nice! Yeah everyone says go to 5.29 for Tacomas but I think that is overkill. If and when I re gear I'll do either 4.56 or 4.88 which I hear are better for long freeway miles. I do a lot of that when traveling.
Thanks for the no-nonsense approach to this issue I've been trying to decide on wheel and tire upgrades on my 2019 TRD offroad LB. I feel like I have a better idea of decision-making for my build in the future.
Thank you soooo much for this video!!! Even with the 10,000’s of videos out there. This is the one I needed to see. May I ask how many inches your lift is? Also, what size wheels and offset your are running, plus the size of spacer? Thank you!!
Love to hear it! Yeah the internet dilutes almost all valuable information these days so I tried to remedy that. I'm only running my lift at about 2.5 inches front and rear after the added weight but it's a true 3-3.5 inch lift before that. For the wheels and tires (and more) I'm going to be that guy and suggest you watch this one -> czcams.com/video/xhEtyuS2eCo/video.htmlsi=qfGYGbB1y14Us6w1
I'm running 265 /75/r16 toyo open country rt trails on black rhino shogun wheels stock height 16" wheels on my 2012 4x4 TRD sport in manual, looks great and is all I need 👍🏽👍🏽
I prepared my 2nd Gen for 37's roughly 11 years ago and run 35's (315/70r17). It's honestly not that difficult to do. Zero rubbing and definitely no wheel spacers. Proper backspace/offset wheels are always better. There is no need for changing out bumpstops that limit uptravel if you plan properly.
I'm sure I could run 35s on my current setup without rubbing If I wanted to I just enjoy the form and function of the 34s. I get great V6 gas milage, still look beefy and I'm not putt as much stress on moving parts in the suspension as I would with 35s or 37s.
@quicksendtaco I understand. That's why I opted to not go with 37's and stayed at 315s (which cost substantially less than 35's and are nearly the same size). I tell people all the time to stick with 33's because it's easier, and the ground clearance difference is an inch at best.
@quicksendtaco The difference is maybe 0.4" wider (not really much) and probably 0.5 to 0.7" taller (depending on brand). So, you really cannot go wrong with anything in the 295 to 315 range if you have a healthy BCM or relocation kit (I did the relocation). They look very similar across those sizes side by side, and it's roughly 1/4" more ground clearance, which is practically nothing. So, if you like the 295's and they're better cost than 315's, there's no harm in staying with them.
Nice! Honestly so happy with my decision. People these days get way to caught up in what they see on Instagram whats "cool" and then jump into it without doing the research.
Great Video!! I didn't notice if you mentioned if these are the SL or LT versions of the Baja Boss. There is a big weight difference between the two. I have the 285, 70,17 SL Baja Boss tires myself.
Good call out I did not mentioned it but these are NOT the SL model I have never seen anyone running the SL version actually. I bet those would be even lighter!
I just made the same decision and came to the same conclusion. My main reason to stick with 295s was keeping the spare under the truck as a tall skinny 255 which is close enough to get us home. I don't want a swing out and keeping weight low is always a good idea. Plus regearing isn't cheap
Yeah no gears for me or swing out as well. Keep it simple and still a good daily driver. What is the full spare size you are running? I was going to go 265/75/16 and call it a day just a profile bigger like you said can get you where you need to go.
Liked the video man. My 23 trd pro is stock now. But want 285’s trying to figure out what I need to do to accomplish 285’s. Now wanting 295’s. Lol. Always wondered why people don’t put on 275’s but haven’t researched those yet. New subscriber here. Thx
285s will fit with a 2 inch lift and minor trimming and no need for a CMS depending on what brand you go with. A 295 will definitely need a CMC and likely a 3 inch lift. Going from 285 to 295 is a bigger jump than you think. Also 275 is un common because I think if you are getting new tires for $1000 people want the difference to be sizable or even noticeable. Happy to have you here! Thanks!
Get a cab mount chop. Take it to Toyota. Tell em to set you up with the Bilstein 5100s and slap on your 10 ply 285/70 R17s on a 0 offset rim and be done with it. You'll have a levelled (2" in front 1" in rear) unstoppable, nice riding, dependable Taco. You wont even need to trim your fender, and get to keep your drivetrain warranty, and your truck will perform, and it'll even land jumps (er, emergency landings) with relative grace. And you can have a laugh at those other guys still struggling to make 285s fit on their 3" lift kits that either get the back bucking or top out and/or bottom out hard. Don't screw up your truck. You'll regret it. Want that steel bumper later? No problem for the Bilsteins. You might need to adjust the preload, and that's it. I just bought a 2017 that rolled into the dealership on some kind of Icon suspension setup. Guess what they did before putting the sale sticker on it? They ripped that crap off the front, and slapped on the Bilsteins of course!
Looks great. Nice taco…. Would you not save weight by getting 10” instead of 12.5” wide? I see a lot of videos that the traction of 10’s are better or equal to the 12’s.
Thanks! Yeah I didn’t think about that at the time but I also wanted a more aggressive look. Prob could have squeezed a few more mpg out of the 10 inch wides.
You say the 295s Mickey Thompson weigh less than the 285s Falken but according to each website the 295 Mickeys are 72lbs and the 285 Falkens are 63.3. Those Mickeys A/Ts are even heavier than the equivalent Falken MTs (72 vs 69)
Nice call out! Yeah it was only after the fact that I realized I was comparing the 34s to the 35s weight wise. As long as I could keep the wheel and tire combined weight roughly at or under 100lbs per corner I'm happy about it.
This is great thinkin if ya ask me. Weight vs 1/2 inch more tire… I went with 285s just for weight and what my needs where for my build and daily driving. But I myself where looking at all this for future ideas. This was great real world needs vs just a number to say on your build. I really like your thinkin on all this and appreciate your info you put out for us all to think about. Cheers my friend cheers 🍻
I'm biased but if you get the Baja Bosses you won't be disappointed these things are BEEFY! I haven't checked exact mounted and inflated numbers on other Mickey Thompson tires though although I feel like I should.
I'm a big fan down side is it does not hold up well for larger brush haha its been over a year and it's done its job. 2024 will be the year of outfitting this truck with armor.
265/70r16 almost a true 32 inch tire. Standing around 31 inches when on the vehicle aired up. Good enough for me for mile trail riding. But I for sure dream about having a 6 inch lift for 35s will I ever do it absolutely the most I’ll ever do is a 33 when I’m out of warranty with a minor lift. But it sure sounds cool.
Yeah 33s are honestly the ideal size and 100% 35s sound nice but when you stop to think about the long term journey of 35s that's where I reconsidered.
Thanks for the video, definitely for something to consider. I’m still running 33’s until I get spindle gussets and upper bucket shears welded on. Just regeared to 5.29’s a month ago.
Thank you! One thing to consider is getting after market spindles. Gusseting spindles actually weakens the stock ones because of how hot the metal gets during welding such that it weakens the welds and material. I have stock spindles and wheel it pretty hard no issues.
@@quicksendtaco Is that from first-hand knowledge? All the other tacoma youtubers I follow such as DirtNation advise gusseting spindles. From my understanding, only Camburg makes after-market spindles.
@@khantra4568 Someone I know yeah and that's what the shop then confirmed by looking at where it broke in half while being gusseted. I think it's probably fine if you dont off-road much. Yeah Camburg is what I would upgrade too if I were to make any changes. You'd be surprised how many builds just run stock spindles. It is not as big of a point of contention as people think.
@@quicksendtaco I off-road every other weekend and my rig weigh just 200 lbs short of 7k. Reinforcing the components has been my priority ever since I had a breakdown in Death Valley.
@@khantra4568 Yikes, yeah I mean I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong I'm just speaking from my experience. I need to weight in someday as well haha
@@bartcanuck734 Haha well it's a 2018 it's been around much longer and has gone though a lot more than a 2023. The headlights are actually called the AlphaRex "Alpha Black" Luxx Series.
I don't have any coupon code offers available for the wheels at this time but maybe Icon will decide to make one soon! These are their Vector6 wheels and have been on the truck since 2020.
@@quicksendtaco aww that was a typo. I meant to ask about the offset of your wheels. I run a zero offset and I really like the stance of your Taco. I saw you answered another person saying you run a 1” spacer and that answers it. Who did your body mount chop? I love that angle. We’re in Vegas and we have a great local shop called Rogue Off-road that specializes in custom fabrication. I’d love to show them a pic of yours to see if they can replicate it but I wouldn’t be opposed to rolling out to your neck of the woods to get it done either.
@@NateMaris I drove about 2 hours south deep into LA to a place called SSA HAUS. They are a small off-road fabrication and smog shop. Ask for Steve he's the master when it comes to these chops, so clean looks factory. Let him know I sent you maybe he'll hook you up!
Great info! I was wondering since you have a tune, what setting did your tuner plug in for your tire size? I don’t think they have a 34” option. It’s 33 or 35.
I went with an OTT tune and the tuner comes into town seasonally and was able to dial the tune in for 34s. Did someone tell you you could only do 33s and 35s? People even tune their trucks stock so that would be for 31s AND 32s.
Hey so you convinced me to go with the same lift tire package. My only question is the spare tire. At this size is it small enough to still carry under the truck or is a swing out required?
In my eyes a spare does not need to be a full size a spare, it just needs to get me off the trail and to the nearest tire shop. I will be mounting a 33 inch tire under the bed, that I know will fit and will only be a hair smaller.
Great informative video! 🙌 I’m running 285/70/R17 and definitely been thinking of 35s or 295s You just made it easier for me. Gonna give 295s a shot. Your rig’s stands is beautiful. What is the size and off-set of your rims? Btw Those Mickey Thompson tires are naaaawwwice! Thanks in advance for your response
Great! Definitely look on the tire websites to see their true diameter each 295 or any tire is going to be different. I'm running a zero offset wheel that is 17x8.5 and I have a one inch or 30mm spacer sooo -30 ishhh?
i use a heat gun to shape it. I have Viper cut and i modified it with heat gun so as not to have the fog lights cable exposed and other parts.@@quicksendtaco
Since the truck gets driven daily on the road I can say that after a few thousand miles they are very quiet and smooth. But with the larger size they do grip the road imperfections a little more. The suspension parts can all be found at www.iconvehicledynamics.com
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I hava a long bed with bilstein 6112 suspension and 285/70R17 ko2’s and planning to get 315/70R17 baja atz, you mentioned that bilstein’s will not work for, can you explain why ?
The 6112s only give you about 2.0 inches of lift and you need 2.5 or 3.0 inches to start. At only 2.0 inches the only way to clear something that big is to cut ur fenders and body a bunch and get a a re-location kit. You can see all the work I had to do just to fit these 295/70/17s on a 3.0 inch lift.
They are pretty good but you can definitely feel the road more than my older 33s even if they were MTs if that makes sense. Small imperfections give more feed back into the steering wheel than before. But they are very quiet and don’t really jeopardize any performance from what I can tell so far. It’s been about seven months.
Depending on which brand you go with if they are light and large like these, the main benefit is clearance and over all approach and departure angle. That can definitely vary depending on tire size and compound you go with because those factors will affect rubbing and or MPG.
@quicksendtaco Thanks! Rubbing is the thing I'm worried about most because I didn't want to start cutting everything up, but I feel like I'm going to do that sooner than later. I've got 2 inch lift, sliders, and waiting on my bumper to come in. Tires are next on my list.
Are you going to re-gear? I have a 2nd gen Tacoma with 285 7-R17's, and the big reason i haven't jumped to 35's yet is because i would like to pair it with a more efficient gear set in the rear. thoughts?
I will eventually when I have the extra $ set aside and will probably do 35s later for that reason too. I currently am running a tune and that helps a lot I think especially just daily driving I get about 14 mpg around town. I also have a lot of friends on 35s and not re geared it's just a big investment so it takes time. But let's be real it's all expensive haha
I agree with a lot of what your saying, I’ve also been debating the whole going 35s decision. I have a long bed Tacoma that I commute about 80 miles 2-4 times a week on 285/75r17 Yokohama mud terrains and they are heavy but not as heavy as a 35 MT could be. Now I’ve done research and I’m deciding between Nitto Recon grappler AT in a 35/12.5 which weighs only 1 pound heavier than the tires I have now of a Nitto ridge grappler 35/11.5r17 which is 2 pounds heavier than what I have now. All of these which are lighter than the mickeys you have. Could you possibly help me decide between the 2 I’m looking at? Please and thank you.
Hey there! I took a look because what you said shocked me haha those that you listed are in fact even lighter than the 34x12.0 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss! Nice find. I personally would go with the Ridge Grappler it is known to be an amazing tire all around. Weight aside you will have to consider the rolling surface and possible need for a re-gear to get close to the same MPG. I am running an OTT Tune as well for my 34s I didn't mention that in the video.
@@quicksendtaco I’ve pretty much done 90% of the work for 35s, body mount chop, pinch weld, fender cut on the front wheel wells, 5.29 regear, and total chaos spindle gussets and cam tabs. Just can’t decide if I want the wider recon grapplers or the 1” narrower ridge grapplers. Sounds dumb but I can’t pick which one I feel like is the best to go with.
I run 275/75/16 BFG KO2 on a 1997 Land Cruiser with a 2.5 OME lift. Could I go larger, yes, much larger. However it is my daily and I already get roughly 12MPG. eerr, uuhh Smiles per Gallon..Toyota Land Cruiser axles can run 38, no rub, but you will need to re gear. Take into cosideration the axle strength before you add on those massive tires and try spinnin them. I run the Rubicon with this set up no problem as the trail head is 10 minutes from the house and I am at the staging area. Plow through snow hood level high inJanuary, no problem, literally. Also, I pull the jeeps and Broncos running 38, 40 out of the snow and rocks constantly and looked at in amazement. By the way.. Jeep axles are designed only for 33s axle strength wise. What I am trying to say is you do not neccesarly need massive tires. Do they look cool, sure, however I still can get to anywhere others with larger tire get to. just my .02
Couldn't agree more 285/70s or 33s can get you almost anywhere, but man to these trucks look mean once you get bigger tires. So far I'm loving this size.
@@quicksendtaco right on.. I remember back in the day 33s were super large tires.. No one was running 35, 37 and certainly not 40s.. They do look cool however there have been tests and you can UTube it, but taller skinier tires actually have a wider contact once aired down.. science is cool.. I guess if you had a rig specific to running trails and that was it, I can see the bigger tire.. but on a daily. Last year we had 80 FEET of snow cumulative throughout the year, Nov- May.. we literally receive 3, 4, 5, 6 foot dumps over a 3 day period.. 275/75 16 BFGKO2, absolutely no problem. To go to my side job at 11PM, snow removal at a ski resort, lots of times I have first tracks going to work. Side streets here are not a priority and get stacked up quick with 2' -3' an hour. The big tires do look tough though IMHO.. Have a great day.
If and when I get re geared I'll probably go with 4.56 or 4.88s those are usually better for high way miles and I spend a lot of time on the free way getting from place to place.
@quicksendtaco tacos a daily and I don't really see myself needing 35s on most trails I do. If I really want to do difficult trails I'll get a beater lol
@@quicksendtaco ok thanks. I’m running 17x9 with a -38 offset I want to move up from a 285/70/17 to 295’s because I feel it’d be too much work to get the 35 inch tire to fit hopefully when I do decide to go to 295 I won’t have to cut too much I already have a CMC but might have to do the viper cut.
@@Mikeynalus With a 17x9 -38 even if you went to this tire and size for example I think you may need to do quite a bit more trimming and cutting than I did but that is totally doable and will look super mean!
@@alexsua672 There is more to it than that but yes I have a 30mm spacer so the wheel is effectively a -30 offset. The issue without the spacer was the tire contacting the UCA, not necessarily any other rubbing on the bumper or CMC.
@@quicksendtaco im sure it does, many people don’t admit and yesterday i was on a trail, this yota was goin super slow and then came to some dips he was rubbing all day brah. Easy trail too i meant on the outer body too.
Check the video man there is no rubbing anywhere I even zoomed in, sounds like you need to trim and cut more stuff. Also watch some other videos of mine, never rubs. Even if I did and iI was hiding it what does that solve? This video is literally aimed to help people avoid other people who say they don't rub which is why I showed it. Just get a good alignment and manage you wheel offset.
what lift size do you have I have a 2.5 in lift and I am lookin to go this way would that be enough lift to fit 295/70R17 i am currently running 285/70R17
In this video I have a 3 inch lift in front and a 3.5 in the rear. I had 285/70/17 before and for these tires specifically even with the cutting and trimming I am not sure I'd clear these tires specifically but it can be done just need to get the hammer and saw out haha
This guy is a great accountant! This guy is legit appreciate it man, after all the research your spot on. Keep up the great work.
I appreciate YOU. Thank you just trying to share as much as I can do so your build and learning curve isn't years long like mine was.
Nice rig. I just bought a '22 Pro w/ M/T. I also opted for 295/75/17's but went with Patagonia M/T 02's. I've had good luck with them in the KY/ TN weather, rainy roads, on hills & rock terrain in the past. Also a lighter tire when compared to Nitto trail graps. I have minimum rubbing on mine but I have yet to do a body cut or suspension lift from the 2" Pro lift that came factory.
Thanks man! That's sick not many brands make the 295/75/17 it usually just the 295/70. I rubbed for the first time in over a year wheeling last week and it was also very minor.
Truck looks nice. Thanks for your take on it.
Thank you dude! And thanks for tuning in!
Good looking out;!! And that’s why I love watching videos like this! Thank you 👍
Awesome, glad to hear it!
Forget that cutting up a nice truck just for 35s. I have 285/70/r17 on a 3in front 1in rear no rubbing and didnt have to cut anything. Thanks for the video explaining things
Exactly not to mention the rabbit hole of other things to do like gears and terrible mpg if you don't etc... I'm glad I stopped at this size a good happy medium. Thank you for watching!
@quicksendtaco I already get 14 in town 17 Freeway with 285s and a 3in lift. It's ridiculous
@@BlueSTI I’d say I average 14 in the city too with these - sometimes more but on the free way it drop to like 13 ish just because I’m so heavy haha
what rims do you have and what offset?? Thanks
The wheels are 17x8.5 zero offset but I am running a 30mm (1inch spacer).
That was well presented and thought out. Those MT Baja Boss are awesome tires. I have a 4Runner and stayed with the stock TRD Pro wheels and installed 255/80 R17 (33") "pizza cutters." I stayed within 2.5" of lift. Because I kept the same offset, I didn't have to do a BMC. I found that because of the additional weight to my rig and the increased size of the tires, I was really negatively impacting the performance of the vehicle in addition to adding considerable stress to the drivetrain. So, I did a regear to 4.56. The difference is night and day. It's doing better now than when it had 265s on it. You're definitely on the right track.
Nice! Yeah everyone says go to 5.29 for Tacomas but I think that is overkill. If and when I re gear I'll do either 4.56 or 4.88 which I hear are better for long freeway miles. I do a lot of that when traveling.
Thanks for the no-nonsense approach to this issue I've been trying to decide on wheel and tire upgrades on my 2019 TRD offroad LB. I feel like I have a better idea of decision-making for my build in the future.
No-nonsense, I love that! I really try to cut the BS out that the internet tries to feed everyone as best as I can.
@@quicksendtaco It's a big investment and wanting to do it right the first time around.
1000%
Thank you soooo much for this video!!! Even with the 10,000’s of videos out there. This is the one I needed to see.
May I ask how many inches your lift is? Also, what size wheels and offset your are running, plus the size of spacer?
Thank you!!
Love to hear it! Yeah the internet dilutes almost all valuable information these days so I tried to remedy that. I'm only running my lift at about 2.5 inches front and rear after the added weight but it's a true 3-3.5 inch lift before that. For the wheels and tires (and more) I'm going to be that guy and suggest you watch this one -> czcams.com/video/xhEtyuS2eCo/video.htmlsi=qfGYGbB1y14Us6w1
I'm running 265 /75/r16 toyo open country rt trails on black rhino shogun wheels stock height 16" wheels on my 2012 4x4 TRD sport in manual, looks great and is all I need 👍🏽👍🏽
Keeping it simple is usually the better route to go IMO.
Keep ‘em coming!
Thank you!
I prepared my 2nd Gen for 37's roughly 11 years ago and run 35's (315/70r17).
It's honestly not that difficult to do. Zero rubbing and definitely no wheel spacers. Proper backspace/offset wheels are always better.
There is no need for changing out bumpstops that limit uptravel if you plan properly.
I'm sure I could run 35s on my current setup without rubbing If I wanted to I just enjoy the form and function of the 34s. I get great V6 gas milage, still look beefy and I'm not putt as much stress on moving parts in the suspension as I would with 35s or 37s.
@quicksendtaco
I understand. That's why I opted to not go with 37's and stayed at 315s (which cost substantially less than 35's and are nearly the same size).
I tell people all the time to stick with 33's because it's easier, and the ground clearance difference is an inch at best.
@@genconex For sure I'd go 315s as well if I did who knows it's not out of the question once these tires are shot haha
@quicksendtaco
The difference is maybe 0.4" wider (not really much) and probably 0.5 to 0.7" taller (depending on brand).
So, you really cannot go wrong with anything in the 295 to 315 range if you have a healthy BCM or relocation kit (I did the relocation).
They look very similar across those sizes side by side, and it's roughly 1/4" more ground clearance, which is practically nothing.
So, if you like the 295's and they're better cost than 315's, there's no harm in staying with them.
Great video man, I went the exact same route and I’m very happy w/34s.👌🏽
Nice! Honestly so happy with my decision. People these days get way to caught up in what they see on Instagram whats "cool" and then jump into it without doing the research.
Great Video!! I didn't notice if you mentioned if these are the SL or LT versions of the Baja Boss. There is a big weight difference between the two. I have the 285, 70,17 SL Baja Boss tires myself.
Good call out I did not mentioned it but these are NOT the SL model I have never seen anyone running the SL version actually. I bet those would be even lighter!
I found your channel today, I’m enjoying the content. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome, welcome and glad to hear it!
I just made the same decision and came to the same conclusion. My main reason to stick with 295s was keeping the spare under the truck as a tall skinny 255 which is close enough to get us home. I don't want a swing out and keeping weight low is always a good idea. Plus regearing isn't cheap
Yeah no gears for me or swing out as well. Keep it simple and still a good daily driver. What is the full spare size you are running? I was going to go 265/75/16 and call it a day just a profile bigger like you said can get you where you need to go.
@@quicksendtaco 255/85r16 Toyo MT as a spare. It's 33.5, or so they claim. More than within spec to work on the front in 2wd
I should add that our big plan is to do the Dempster and up to Tuk so a full size spare is basically required
@@Ooleteq Nice I'll have to look into that size!
@@Ooleteq Big time for a voyage like that!
Liked the video man. My 23 trd pro is stock now. But want 285’s trying to figure out what I need to do to accomplish 285’s. Now wanting 295’s. Lol. Always wondered why people don’t put on 275’s but haven’t researched those yet. New subscriber here. Thx
285s will fit with a 2 inch lift and minor trimming and no need for a CMS depending on what brand you go with. A 295 will definitely need a CMC and likely a 3 inch lift. Going from 285 to 295 is a bigger jump than you think. Also 275 is un common because I think if you are getting new tires for $1000 people want the difference to be sizable or even noticeable. Happy to have you here! Thanks!
Get a cab mount chop. Take it to Toyota. Tell em to set you up with the Bilstein 5100s and slap on your 10 ply 285/70 R17s on a 0 offset rim and be done with it. You'll have a levelled (2" in front 1" in rear) unstoppable, nice riding, dependable Taco. You wont even need to trim your fender, and get to keep your drivetrain warranty, and your truck will perform, and it'll even land jumps (er, emergency landings) with relative grace. And you can have a laugh at those other guys still struggling to make 285s fit on their 3" lift kits that either get the back bucking or top out and/or bottom out hard. Don't screw up your truck. You'll regret it. Want that steel bumper later? No problem for the Bilsteins. You might need to adjust the preload, and that's it. I just bought a 2017 that rolled into the dealership on some kind of Icon suspension setup. Guess what they did before putting the sale sticker on it? They ripped that crap off the front, and slapped on the Bilsteins of course!
Love the look. Running a 2016 access cab. Been looking for upgrade ideas. Thanks for sharing.
Right on always happy to share more / offer any guidance!
Looks great. Nice taco…. Would you not save weight by getting 10” instead of 12.5” wide? I see a lot of videos that the traction of 10’s are better or equal to the 12’s.
Thanks! Yeah I didn’t think about that at the time but I also wanted a more aggressive look. Prob could have squeezed a few more mpg out of the 10 inch wides.
Your videos help me out so much thank you for explaining your set up and why you did what you did!
Awesome! So glad to hear it - just trying to help you!
You say the 295s Mickey Thompson weigh less than the 285s Falken but according to each website the 295 Mickeys are 72lbs and the 285 Falkens are 63.3. Those Mickeys A/Ts are even heavier than the equivalent Falken MTs (72 vs 69)
Nice call out! Yeah it was only after the fact that I realized I was comparing the 34s to the 35s weight wise. As long as I could keep the wheel and tire combined weight roughly at or under 100lbs per corner I'm happy about it.
@@quicksendtacoI’m running 35x12.5 BFG KO2. No compromises🇺🇸
@@truthseeker8123 A gold standard for sure!
This is great thinkin if ya ask me. Weight vs 1/2 inch more tire… I went with 285s just for weight and what my needs where for my build and daily driving. But I myself where looking at all this for future ideas. This was great real world needs vs just a number to say on your build. I really like your thinkin on all this and appreciate your info you put out for us all to think about.
Cheers my friend cheers 🍻
Thank you and glad to hear my message got across! I ran 285s for years and they are a great size for these trucks!
Excellent video, very informative. I have the 4 cylinder so tires that heavy would wreak havoc. Great job!
Oh boy haha I didn't even think of that, thank you!
IM GETTING 34'S NOW :) THANK YOU
I'm biased but if you get the Baja Bosses you won't be disappointed these things are BEEFY! I haven't checked exact mounted and inflated numbers on other Mickey Thompson tires though although I feel like I should.
I really like the look of the viper cut as well! just had it done.
I'm a big fan down side is it does not hold up well for larger brush haha its been over a year and it's done its job. 2024 will be the year of outfitting this truck with armor.
Nice build! Appreciate your reach as well…would love to do the same on my 2020 off-road taco
Thanks man, I appreciate the love. It is a lot of work and takes patience and research but it's a great hobby.
We need more of these vids. Learned a lot!
Heck yeah, that's the kid of feedback I love! Thank you.
265/70r16 almost a true 32 inch tire. Standing around 31 inches when on the vehicle aired up. Good enough for me for mile trail riding. But I for sure dream about having a 6 inch lift for 35s will I ever do it absolutely the most I’ll ever do is a 33 when I’m out of warranty with a minor lift. But it sure sounds cool.
Yeah 33s are honestly the ideal size and 100% 35s sound nice but when you stop to think about the long term journey of 35s that's where I reconsidered.
Thanks for the video, definitely for something to consider. I’m still running 33’s until I get spindle gussets and upper bucket shears welded on. Just regeared to 5.29’s a month ago.
Thank you! One thing to consider is getting after market spindles. Gusseting spindles actually weakens the stock ones because of how hot the metal gets during welding such that it weakens the welds and material. I have stock spindles and wheel it pretty hard no issues.
@@quicksendtaco Is that from first-hand knowledge? All the other tacoma youtubers I follow such as DirtNation advise gusseting spindles. From my understanding, only Camburg makes after-market spindles.
@@khantra4568 Someone I know yeah and that's what the shop then confirmed by looking at where it broke in half while being gusseted. I think it's probably fine if you dont off-road much. Yeah Camburg is what I would upgrade too if I were to make any changes. You'd be surprised how many builds just run stock spindles. It is not as big of a point of contention as people think.
@@quicksendtaco I off-road every other weekend and my rig weigh just 200 lbs short of 7k. Reinforcing the components has been my priority ever since I had a breakdown in Death Valley.
@@khantra4568 Yikes, yeah I mean I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong I'm just speaking from my experience. I need to weight in someday as well haha
You have got that Taco dialled in, luv it.
Its not 100% perfect in my eyes but taking the build slow has helped a ton! Thank you so much.
@@quicksendtaco got a 2023 TRD Off Road and makes mine look plain. Are those Morimoto headlights?
@@bartcanuck734 Haha well it's a 2018 it's been around much longer and has gone though a lot more than a 2023. The headlights are actually called the AlphaRex "Alpha Black" Luxx Series.
Good video my dude 🤙🏻
Eyyy I appreciate it man!
Truck is awesome. Dude, I just got mine couple months ago. How about the rims size?
Congratulations! I remember that feeling! These are a 17x8.5 if I remember correctly.
Excellent vid! What off set do you have on your wheels?
I don't have any coupon code offers available for the wheels at this time but maybe Icon will decide to make one soon! These are their Vector6 wheels and have been on the truck since 2020.
@@quicksendtaco aww that was a typo. I meant to ask about the offset of your wheels. I run a zero offset and I really like the stance of your Taco. I saw you answered another person saying you run a 1” spacer and that answers it. Who did your body mount chop? I love that angle. We’re in Vegas and we have a great local shop called Rogue Off-road that specializes in custom fabrication. I’d love to show them a pic of yours to see if they can replicate it but I wouldn’t be opposed to rolling out to your neck of the woods to get it done either.
@@NateMaris I drove about 2 hours south deep into LA to a place called SSA HAUS. They are a small off-road fabrication and smog shop. Ask for Steve he's the master when it comes to these chops, so clean looks factory. Let him know I sent you maybe he'll hook you up!
@@quicksendtaco that’s awesome! Thank you for that.
My pleasure, any time! @@NateMaris
Great info! I was wondering since you have a tune, what setting did your tuner plug in for your tire size? I don’t think they have a 34” option. It’s 33 or 35.
I went with an OTT tune and the tuner comes into town seasonally and was able to dial the tune in for 34s. Did someone tell you you could only do 33s and 35s? People even tune their trucks stock so that would be for 31s AND 32s.
Hey so you convinced me to go with the same lift tire package.
My only question is the spare tire.
At this size is it small enough to still carry under the truck or is a swing out required?
In my eyes a spare does not need to be a full size a spare, it just needs to get me off the trail and to the nearest tire shop. I will be mounting a 33 inch tire under the bed, that I know will fit and will only be a hair smaller.
The truck looks great
Thank you sir!
Great informative video! 🙌 I’m running 285/70/R17 and definitely been thinking of 35s or 295s You just made it easier for me. Gonna give 295s a shot. Your rig’s stands is beautiful. What is the size and off-set of your rims? Btw Those Mickey Thompson tires are naaaawwwice! Thanks in advance for your response
Great! Definitely look on the tire websites to see their true diameter each 295 or any tire is going to be different. I'm running a zero offset wheel that is 17x8.5 and I have a one inch or 30mm spacer sooo -30 ishhh?
@@quicksendtacoahh nice! This answers my questions. Really love the look of your rig. Nice work
i have 35" and still have my fender liner.
Good to know! Most people I know just tear it out or it gets torn out flexing off-road haha
i use a heat gun to shape it. I have Viper cut and i modified it with heat gun so as not to have the fog lights cable exposed and other parts.@@quicksendtaco
@@javierclavell Thats rad I may have to keep that in mind later on!
I would love to know how the ride feels on road?
Also would love to get links to where you got your lift kit parts
Since the truck gets driven daily on the road I can say that after a few thousand miles they are very quiet and smooth. But with the larger size they do grip the road imperfections a little more. The suspension parts can all be found at www.iconvehicledynamics.com
I loveeeeeeeeee your truck I have a 2017 quicksand Tacoma and my name is Nicholas nice to meet you after today I’m subscribing keep up the good work 😁😁😁👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hahaha heck yeah! Welcome, just getting back from our honeymoon so I should be getting back into videos here soon!
I hava a long bed with bilstein 6112 suspension and 285/70R17 ko2’s and planning to get 315/70R17 baja atz, you mentioned that bilstein’s will not work for, can you explain why ?
The 6112s only give you about 2.0 inches of lift and you need 2.5 or 3.0 inches to start. At only 2.0 inches the only way to clear something that big is to cut ur fenders and body a bunch and get a a re-location kit. You can see all the work I had to do just to fit these 295/70/17s on a 3.0 inch lift.
How do you run a spare? Great video!
I actually need to do that here soon I still have a stock spare, but I'm going to run a 33 in the stock position under the bed.
Great video! Are the front springs too stiff for a stock front end?
It's a little stiffer than my previous set up but I should be getting a steel bumper in January. I didn't want to bother upgrading later on.
How are the tires? I know they are E load. How are they on road ?
They are pretty good but you can definitely feel the road more than my older 33s even if they were MTs if that makes sense. Small imperfections give more feed back into the steering wheel than before. But they are very quiet and don’t really jeopardize any performance from what I can tell so far. It’s been about seven months.
What offset are you running on top of the spacers
Hi Zac, the wheels are a zero offset with a 4.75 inch backspace without the spacers. -30 is the final offset.
I'm looking into getting tires on my truck, I was leaning towards 33s. Have you noticed any benefits to going with 34s?
Depending on which brand you go with if they are light and large like these, the main benefit is clearance and over all approach and departure angle. That can definitely vary depending on tire size and compound you go with because those factors will affect rubbing and or MPG.
@quicksendtaco Thanks! Rubbing is the thing I'm worried about most because I didn't want to start cutting everything up, but I feel like I'm going to do that sooner than later. I've got 2 inch lift, sliders, and waiting on my bumper to come in. Tires are next on my list.
Did you regear for the 34s?
I did not and probably wont' I get about 13 mpg on average. On my current tank I'm at 14 mpg.
Are you going to re-gear? I have a 2nd gen Tacoma with 285 7-R17's, and the big reason i haven't jumped to 35's yet is because i would like to pair it with a more efficient gear set in the rear. thoughts?
I will eventually when I have the extra $ set aside and will probably do 35s later for that reason too. I currently am running a tune and that helps a lot I think especially just daily driving I get about 14 mpg around town. I also have a lot of friends on 35s and not re geared it's just a big investment so it takes time. But let's be real it's all expensive haha
I agree with a lot of what your saying, I’ve also been debating the whole going 35s decision. I have a long bed Tacoma that I commute about 80 miles 2-4 times a week on 285/75r17 Yokohama mud terrains and they are heavy but not as heavy as a 35 MT could be. Now I’ve done research and I’m deciding between Nitto Recon grappler AT in a 35/12.5 which weighs only 1 pound heavier than the tires I have now of a Nitto ridge grappler 35/11.5r17 which is 2 pounds heavier than what I have now. All of these which are lighter than the mickeys you have. Could you possibly help me decide between the 2 I’m looking at? Please and thank you.
Hey there! I took a look because what you said shocked me haha those that you listed are in fact even lighter than the 34x12.0 Mickey Thompson Baja Boss! Nice find. I personally would go with the Ridge Grappler it is known to be an amazing tire all around. Weight aside you will have to consider the rolling surface and possible need for a re-gear to get close to the same MPG. I am running an OTT Tune as well for my 34s I didn't mention that in the video.
@@quicksendtaco I’ve pretty much done 90% of the work for 35s, body mount chop, pinch weld, fender cut on the front wheel wells, 5.29 regear, and total chaos spindle gussets and cam tabs. Just can’t decide if I want the wider recon grapplers or the 1” narrower ridge grapplers. Sounds dumb but I can’t pick which one I feel like is the best to go with.
@@DirtRoad_Chronicles Sounds like you are dialed for either one is just going to give you better on road manners. That being the 11.50
@@quicksendtaco that’s a good point I didn’t think about. Also hear the ridge grapplers getting up into the 70k miles
@@DirtRoad_Chronicles That double of what I got on my last set of Falkens haha
Run 35s.
Haha maybe in a few years
How inch lift did u get?
It's on about a 3 inch lift.
I run 275/75/16 BFG KO2 on a 1997 Land Cruiser with a 2.5 OME lift. Could I go larger, yes, much larger. However it is my daily and I already get roughly 12MPG. eerr, uuhh Smiles per Gallon..Toyota Land Cruiser axles can run 38, no rub, but you will need to re gear. Take into cosideration the axle strength before you add on those massive tires and try spinnin them. I run the Rubicon with this set up no problem as the trail head is 10 minutes from the house and I am at the staging area. Plow through snow hood level high inJanuary, no problem, literally. Also, I pull the jeeps and Broncos running 38, 40 out of the snow and rocks constantly and looked at in amazement. By the way.. Jeep axles are designed only for 33s axle strength wise.
What I am trying to say is you do not neccesarly need massive tires. Do they look cool, sure, however I still can get to anywhere others with larger tire get to.
just my .02
Couldn't agree more 285/70s or 33s can get you almost anywhere, but man to these trucks look mean once you get bigger tires. So far I'm loving this size.
@@quicksendtaco right on.. I remember back in the day 33s were super large tires.. No one was running 35, 37 and certainly not 40s..
They do look cool however there have been tests and you can UTube it, but taller skinier tires actually have a wider contact once aired down.. science is cool..
I guess if you had a rig specific to running trails and that was it, I can see the bigger tire.. but on a daily.
Last year we had 80 FEET of snow cumulative throughout the year, Nov- May.. we literally receive 3, 4, 5, 6 foot dumps over a 3 day period.. 275/75 16 BFGKO2, absolutely no problem.
To go to my side job at 11PM, snow removal at a ski resort, lots of times I have first tracks going to work. Side streets here are not a priority and get stacked up quick with 2' -3' an hour.
The big tires do look tough though IMHO..
Have a great day.
Yeah, I have definitely seen videos of the contact patch science, super cool. Cheers!
Beautiful truck
Are those 20 degrees sliders ?
Thanks
I truthfully am not sure they are from Avid Off-Road in AZ and have had them on there for 4 years at least!
Would you be able to run 34s with the bilstien 6112 struts ?
The short answer is no, but the long answer is anything will fit with enough cutting and trimming but it may not be as clean as you want it to be.
Run 285/75 r17. It’s also a 34. Will clear 6112.
@@xengyang6552 A skinny 34 yeah I do see this a lot more!
What about gearing, have you thought about running a 5:29 ratio?
If and when I get re geared I'll probably go with 4.56 or 4.88s those are usually better for high way miles and I spend a lot of time on the free way getting from place to place.
Hey that .5" makes a difference ;)
Hahaha it does we ain't out here trying to fool anyone, I'll jump up eventually!
I have 315/85/16 tires I'll trade you If you changed your mind and want 35s lol
Haha I’m very curious, why? Don’t regret getting that size?
@quicksendtaco tacos a daily and I don't really see myself needing 35s on most trails I do. If I really want to do difficult trails I'll get a beater lol
I don't regret it I'm gonna run them until they are done lol let's see what last longer tires or steering rack 🤪
@@Yotapuga I mean mines slowly leaking too haha it is inevitable
@@Yotapuga Yeah I have never come to the point where I'm like I need more clearance and I don't even have bumpers
What is your wheel offset?
The wheels are 17x8.5 with a zero offset but with the wheel spacer they are effectively a -30 offset.
@@quicksendtaco ok thanks. I’m running 17x9 with a -38 offset I want to move up from a 285/70/17 to 295’s because I feel it’d be too much work to get the 35 inch tire to fit hopefully when I do decide to go to 295 I won’t have to cut too much I already have a CMC but might have to do the viper cut.
@@Mikeynalus With a 17x9 -38 even if you went to this tire and size for example I think you may need to do quite a bit more trimming and cutting than I did but that is totally doable and will look super mean!
@@quicksendtacodid you need a spacer on your build to not run with a zero offset ?
@@alexsua672 There is more to it than that but yes I have a 30mm spacer so the wheel is effectively a -30 offset. The issue without the spacer was the tire contacting the UCA, not necessarily any other rubbing on the bumper or CMC.
Do the back tires rub on the inside?
No rubbing at all with this set up as it is shown!
@@quicksendtaco im sure it does, many people don’t admit and yesterday i was on a trail, this yota was goin super slow and then came to some dips he was rubbing all day brah. Easy trail too i meant on the outer body too.
Check the video man there is no rubbing anywhere I even zoomed in, sounds like you need to trim and cut more stuff. Also watch some other videos of mine, never rubs. Even if I did and iI was hiding it what does that solve? This video is literally aimed to help people avoid other people who say they don't rub which is why I showed it. Just get a good alignment and manage you wheel offset.
@@quicksendtaco all rubber
what lift size do you have I have a 2.5 in lift and I am lookin to go this way would that be enough lift to fit 295/70R17 i am currently running 285/70R17
In this video I have a 3 inch lift in front and a 3.5 in the rear. I had 285/70/17 before and for these tires specifically even with the cutting and trimming I am not sure I'd clear these tires specifically but it can be done just need to get the hammer and saw out haha
Too expensive!
Big time haha