Fujifilm X-Pro2 vs Leica - On the Streets Camera Review by Thorsten von Overgaard (subtitled)

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Komentáře • 302

  • @glennsak
    @glennsak Před 5 lety +133

    “I didn’t read the manual” - Every man on Earth

  • @carrieannkouri2151
    @carrieannkouri2151 Před 2 lety +9

    I’ve been using my X-Pro 2 with my late father’s Leica 35mm lens. I love this combo.

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus Před rokem +6

    Thanks for the video.
    My original plan was to shoot a Fuji X-Pro2 until I I could buy a Leica digital rangefinder that I liked. After I purchased the Leica M10, I was going to sell my X-Pro2 but was surprised to discover that I really prefer to use the X-Pro2.

  • @josep6673
    @josep6673 Před 2 lety +7

    Hi Thorsten, your videos are always very interesting. I also had leica analog cameras, I am almost 60 years old. Always in my professional life I was surrounded by "buttons". When I see someone your age saying that these buttons do not interest me, I see clearly that you mean, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW IT WORKS. I've already seen a lot of people my age say that with Photoshop. I have only Fujifilm cameras currently from the X series. X100S-XE1-XE3-XT1-Xpro1 and those buttons are wonderful. Being able to adjust those movies that we used to use from Fuji in analog, wow, I enjoy as a child. If you must spend hours looking at the manual, and adjust toto as you want, but thanks to wonderful CZcamsrs like your talking about Settings everything is easier. It's just my opinion as a former audiovisual professional. By the way I sold the Leica M6. I love Fuji. I love the Q button.Thanks for reading.

  • @cedricleclercq3731
    @cedricleclercq3731 Před 6 lety +3

    Thank you for this review. X-Pro 2 is my favourite camera for one year now. So happy with the results.

  • @goswo
    @goswo Před 6 lety +17

    I would love to have a M10, but I think the next best thing is the X Pro2. Great to watch a real photographer talk Fuji :-)

  • @amarkhaira9868
    @amarkhaira9868 Před 6 lety +10

    I appreciate your unique take ( somewhat of a review ) on cameras and lenses.
    How everything should be simple.
    How Leica lens design is not just a cold mathematical calculation but also an artful thought process.
    Thorsten you have conveyed more clearly than everyone why you use a Leica camera and lenses. While there are a lot of reviews of the Fuji X-Pro 2, yours was very relevant in that you talked about the colours of the images right away ( How natural, tungsten and LED light affect the image individually and combined ).
    Nice to seeing you using the X-Pro 2. Interesting what your opinion will be a month or a year from now.
    Thanks.

  • @Borisvanderoost
    @Borisvanderoost Před 6 lety +4

    I've been waiting for this since I saw your X-Pro 2 lying on the desk a few episodes ago! Finally!

  • @douggottlieb
    @douggottlieb Před 6 lety +29

    So interested to hear your thoughts as a die hard Leica guy on the Fuji.

  • @PhilipRice
    @PhilipRice Před 6 lety +3

    An excellent look at the X-Pro2, thanks. I’m looking forward to your long term review.

  • @GKhanKutar
    @GKhanKutar Před 6 lety +1

    Love your videos Thorsten! i was waiting for Fuji review from you as a Leica photographer.. I will be checking your website too

  • @PictureArtByAE1
    @PictureArtByAE1 Před 6 lety +2

    Thank you for delivering such high quality content on your channel, Mr Overgaard! :-)

  • @RS-Amsterdam
    @RS-Amsterdam Před 6 lety +57

    Nice view on the X Pro 2 from a Leica aficionado.
    Looking forward to your next video on the X Pro 2
    Love your magic words on 4:37 - Anything on a camera that doesn't have anything to do with exposure basically does not belong on the camera !!!!
    SO TRUE !!
    Thanks for sharing.

    • @at016
      @at016 Před 6 lety +1

      I felt compelled to comment exactly because of these words and after some time in my self-taught journey in photography and as an owner of several Fuji cameras to date I couldn't agree more.
      After reading through manuals and trial and error I find myself not messing around with the menu at all. It took some time to get it figured out though.
      I think Fuji somehow is aware of this situation and are trying to fix it with the "MY" menu in which you can basically throw just the configurations you might need to adjust (if any) on top of all the dials and buttons.

    • @dippin1523
      @dippin1523 Před 6 lety +3

      4:37 I love it

  • @AlGreenLightThroughGlass
    @AlGreenLightThroughGlass Před 6 lety +13

    I own its predecessor the Fuji X-Pro-1. I adapted a couple of Leitz lenses to it during my current 100 vintage lens portrait project - really happy with the results.

    • @giannagiavelli5098
      @giannagiavelli5098 Před 6 lety

      what lenses are your fav for portraits?

    • @AlGreenLightThroughGlass
      @AlGreenLightThroughGlass Před 6 lety

      Leitz Elmar 9cm f/4 LTM is a lovely compact early tele and reasonable to buy - easy to adapt to Fuji X with a cheap M39 adapter.
      czcams.com/video/hvxmnxfARIA/video.html

    • @zvonimirtosic6171
      @zvonimirtosic6171 Před 6 lety +1

      There is also X-Pro1 Monochrome conversion, that has RGB colour filters removed from the sensor. B&W output is spectacular, and better than conversion from colour files: maxmax.com/maincamerapage/monochrome-cameras/fuji-monochrome

    • @AlGreenLightThroughGlass
      @AlGreenLightThroughGlass Před 6 lety

      Looks great Zvonimir- my style, however, is to mix color up with b&w. The decision to use color is dependent on whether it contributes or distracts from the composition or storytelling. So a mono only camera doesn't work that well for me.

  • @atephoto
    @atephoto Před 6 lety +2

    I can't wait for your coming X-Pro2 movies. I'll stay tuned :)

  • @jamesseanbennett3928
    @jamesseanbennett3928 Před 6 lety +10

    Hi - Do you have any update on your use of and thoughts on the X-Pro2?

  • @IvanTrejofilms
    @IvanTrejofilms Před 4 lety +2

    where is the second part video?

  • @iphoie
    @iphoie Před 6 lety +1

    I’ve never held or even looked at a Fuji camera before, but now I just might go check them out! TY!

  • @unKecu
    @unKecu Před 5 lety +1

    Who the best camera for image quality Fujifilm xpro 2 vs leica vario 107?

  • @TheVFXbyArt
    @TheVFXbyArt Před 2 lety +4

    6:40
    That new features guide is for the v2.0 firmware update, not the xpro2 update from the xpro1. However in line with what Thorsten says, it’s great for users as large firmwares come out, you get an update manual.
    I do like his idea of a manual for previous users, perhaps a web link.

  • @adzman808
    @adzman808 Před 6 lety +2

    Hi Thorsten,
    That was a nice little review. Thank you.
    Brands like Fuji, Sony et el have to appeal to a wide user base, which is why they're a 'bit' overloaded with features. The good thing about the Fuji is that once one has taken the time to set it up, then there's very little reason to use the menu. At least the 3 exposure parameters are all available on dedicated external dials, unlike most modern cameras
    One thing from your video, the 'new features' guide is actually talking about the stuff they added to the camera via a firmware update since it was first released!
    The original X-Pro1 is a very simple camera by today's standards, and still has a big fan base for it's simple yet quirky slow nature and slightly more "organic" (for want of a better word) colours. I think this is normal that some prefer the older camera, the M9 has a similar cult following
    Looking forward to reading and hearing more.

  • @fcracer88
    @fcracer88 Před 6 lety +3

    Great video Thorsten! I travel with my M10 and X-Pro2 around the world and they complement each other very well. I use the X-Pro2 for when I need a light camera and when I need to shoot beyond 90MM FF equivalent. I also love the rendering and artistic freedom from the stellar Fujifilm XF16 F1.4. You must try this lens, it’s an incredible value. I’m looking forward to more videos on the X-Pro2, which I think is the gateway drug to the Leica addiction.

  • @iheartvw88
    @iheartvw88 Před 6 lety +4

    You're absolutely right Thorsten. I shot with a Fuji XE-1 for quite a few years and loved it. But then I bought the X-Pro 2, and in less than a month I was so fed up with the menus, and the menus within menus within menus, that I sold it and bought the Leica M-D. I absolutely love the M-D, been shooting with it for over a year now, no menus, pick up and shoot. I am a bit nervous though as a friend wants me to shoot their wedding and I will have to use the Leica M-D.

    • @beyourself9162
      @beyourself9162 Před 2 měsíci

      old post …. but when the XPRO2 is set up your way you can do exactly the same thing… and many people compared Leica to Fuji on YT its not the camera who made the picture the photos where equally as good… may the Leica popped a bit more but in the all this was super subjective

  • @harveygussow8852
    @harveygussow8852 Před 6 lety +1

    Different indoor lights have different color temperatures so you never know what you will get. Thanks for making that a complaint and showing how to get around it.

  • @KutWrite
    @KutWrite Před 6 lety +8

    Nicely done, Thorsten. And now I have heard Danish humor!
    Thanks for the analysis. I've been curious about an update to my former Leica M4 from the 70s. This might be it. Can't afford a real Leica these days.
    Only thing, you haven't yet compared the M10 and Fuji "on the streets" as the title says. :(
    So... Looks like you've been to Cuba. VERY nice photos. I also liked the "B" camera with a B&W image.
    Thanks for your video!

  • @franciscoaloi5769
    @franciscoaloi5769 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for that great talk, I appreciate you go right to the point and divide into sections. I just have a question for you.
    What would you say about the dynamic range the Fuji has with the APS-C sensor with respect to the full-frame sensor on the Leica M9?

  • @hsuanwu953
    @hsuanwu953 Před 6 lety +1

    Thanks for the video. Love your channel and your works. May I know which video cameras and lens did you shoot this with?
    Thanks a lot!

  • @daviduthe4349
    @daviduthe4349 Před 6 lety

    My journey to the Fujifilm X100S was when I wanted a lighter camera to carry everywhere, which I wasn't doing with my bigger DSLR. The X100S introduced me to the style of older rangefinder cameras with their easy to see and use basic exposure dials. Later, I returned to shooting emulsion film and picked up both a Leica IIIf and Leica M3 with a few vintage lenses. Without the X100S, I may not have opted for the vintage Leicas.

  • @llr3zall151
    @llr3zall151 Před 4 lety +2

    3:45, one of the most forgotten things in photography these days, everyone is just too obsessed about the gear, they forget what that gear is made for!!! Nice review btw.

  • @problemat1que
    @problemat1que Před 6 lety +2

    3:00 sounds like you haven't discovered focus peaking yet, maybe check out the manual after all. It also helps to switch the camera to MF (another front lever you might have missed) to get access to focus point zoom on back dial push, peaking, and other configurable manual focusing aids. The EVF is your friend, happy shooting.

  • @BenjaminKanarek
    @BenjaminKanarek Před 6 lety +24

    You can use focus peaking HIGH in Red, Blue or White and it is very accurate.

    • @stevenstocking5855
      @stevenstocking5855 Před 6 lety +2

      Benjamin Kanarek Absolutely. I use manual lenses an awful lot on my Fujifilm bodies and the peaking is awesome. Even after using the xpro2 for nearly 2 years...I still enjoy just picking up and use it.

    • @FauxtakuLounge
      @FauxtakuLounge Před 6 lety +1

      The problem with that is that it reduces the obvious point of spending more for the X-Pro 2, which is the OVF. It's a shame that you can't rely on the OVF with the X-Pro because if you could it would be killer.

    • @johngrubb007
      @johngrubb007 Před 6 lety +4

      You can use focus peaking with the ovf. the small evf window in the bottom right still displays it.

  • @at016
    @at016 Před 6 lety

    Hello Thorsten. Will there be a follow-up video or post on your website? As others have said below, would be very interesting to see what your observations are being both an accomplished pro and a Leica Ambassador.

  • @stefanofassone6686
    @stefanofassone6686 Před 6 lety +1

    Well done Thorsten (as usual) ! I still (happily) use my X100T alongside my Leica M-P and I remember how impressive was the XF 56mm f/1.2 mounted on my former Fuji XT-1: great performances for a reasonable price. Keep up the good job ciao ;-)

  • @rickstolk
    @rickstolk Před 6 lety +2

    Hi Thorsten. Thanks for the video. I know the xpro2 can shoot raw & jpg together. But when you set the filmsimulation to B&W, your EVF becomes B&W too. Do you know if there's a workaround for that (besides using OVF)?

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety +1

      I actually prefer the EVF to be in black and white (as I just need to see exposure and composition, not colors). I guess there is the option ot shoot raw and then use the b&w filers in Lightroom. When you import them, you have the Acros filter as well in Lightroom, for example.

  • @dennisj100
    @dennisj100 Před 6 lety +8

    What a great video, I like the fact that you are a photographer that takes pictures and dont worry about ibis 4k etc, I thought I was the only one banging this gong.

  • @Kusanosuke1
    @Kusanosuke1 Před 6 lety +5

    I found your review interesting and refreshing. Thanks for this. You may come to appreciate the WR feature of the X-Pro2 and your 23mm lens in weather conditions that Leicas traditionally don't like. I also have an X-Pro2 and two of the "Fujicron" WR f/2 lenses-- the 23 & 50mm. Both lenses are very good, although I believe the 50mm has much better "pop" and micro contrast. However, the lens I've been using more and more on the X-Pro2 is the Leica M mount Voigtlander Nokton 40mm f/1.4. I am truly loving this lens on the Fuji. I'd thus be willing to wager that not all Leica glass is wasted on the X-Pro2 and would be interested to see if your opinion on this changes over time.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety

      I think you are right there. The Leica 28/1.4 Summilux wasn't a party on the Fuji. The Noctilux showed considerable fringing as well.

  • @robertoposa1120
    @robertoposa1120 Před 3 lety +1

    Have you done a follow up on the x-pro 2 - have you tried the x-pro 3?

  • @tomwestbrook
    @tomwestbrook Před 6 lety +2

    Thanks. I’m thinking about upgrading my old M8 (once I get the shutter replaced) and was considering the X-pro2. I don’t like complexity & menu fiddling either. Maybe I’ll stick to my even older M6 which has worked a lot longer than the M8 ever did.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety +2

      Yes, never sell the M6. Then as for digital ... uh, I don't know. Statt with M9 second-hand and work your way up the model numbers ;-)

  • @JohnyTechReview
    @JohnyTechReview Před 6 lety +3

    Love your relaxing review. What are you using for the 2nd camera that's in black and white. Really silky bokeh!!!!

  • @stepitup5409
    @stepitup5409 Před 6 lety +2

    This is a great channel Thorsten!

  • @jeremoe1
    @jeremoe1 Před 6 lety +5

    As I started watching the video, I was shocked to hear you talking about a camera other than a Leica, but you did good. But, it was weird hearing you talk about the Fuji and not a Leica.

  • @NetvoTV
    @NetvoTV Před 6 lety +1

    Do you suggest first camera is to get a fixed zoom/prime lens camera like Panasonic Lumix LX10/Sony RX100 V/RX10 IV or get a interchangeable lens camera like Fuji XE3 first?

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety +2

      Up to peoipole themself. I prefer fixed lens so one learn to "see 35mm" or "see 50mm". Zoom lenses tend to make one stand still and zoom till the frame fits, instead of composing with the eyes and feet.

  • @TeardownSystems
    @TeardownSystems Před 6 lety +2

    What camera straps do you use? I’ve been looking for a solid leather strap like the ones you have. Wonderful videos, and I’m thankful to hear on the way you approach a photo and view light. Super inspiring

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 4 lety +1

      I use Rock'n'Roll Straps, and I make my own "Always Wear A Camera" brand as well
      rocknrollstraps.com
      www.alwayswearacamera.com

  • @wattsrc1
    @wattsrc1 Před 6 lety +3

    How are you getting on with the Fuji compared to the Leica?

  • @gfraser6846
    @gfraser6846 Před 3 lety

    Hello , if you are familiar with the X100V , how does this compare to your Leica Q2 ?, I cannot decide which has the edge , without looking at price.

  • @peringemarson3898
    @peringemarson3898 Před 6 lety +3

    Where do I get that nice smal White balande card? Love your videos keep going

  • @wattsrc1
    @wattsrc1 Před 4 lety

    when will we see the second part of this review ?

  • @lefthandright01
    @lefthandright01 Před 4 lety +5

    "... you can just take pictures with it,..it sounds ridiculous...but that's actually what i wanted to use the camera for." I say this totally in good spirits, but that line had me laughing until my ribs hurt....then you mentioned , "It has a really cool black and white setting called acros, and no..that's not a hip hopper." I died on that line.
    So good..brilliant review. 5 stars.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 4 lety

      Yes, it's as simple as that. People fundamentally buy cameras to take pictures. I don't know why it's so hard to understand for some camera manufacturers ;-)

    • @theodosiospetmezas1188
      @theodosiospetmezas1188 Před 3 lety

      @@MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard Acro in Greek means "Extreem", so Acros in plural means Extreems. Black and White are the two extreems.

  • @Topsyrm
    @Topsyrm Před 6 lety +6

    Hi Thorsten, I am new to Leica having just bought an M9 (sensor replaced) and 35 Summicron f2. I am a long time Fuji X-Pro1 user and feel that the X-Pro1 sensor delivers more film like images than the newer X-Pro2. That said the 23mm lens I use is the f1.4 version which more equates to the 35mm f2 Summicron, you should try the f1.4 version it is a better lens. Ironic really that you are just finding Fuji whilst I am just finding Leica. Looking forward to seeing your views after longer use, will it stay in your arsenal? BTW your "Why the Leica M9 is so unique" video was instrumental in my decision to go for the M9 and so far I don't regret it. Thanks.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety +3

      The short answer is that the Fuji is not a Leica. My everyday kit is two Leica M10's (and before that two M240s and two M9s). The Leica Q, Leica TL2, Fuji is/was great cameras to try and use, but not the everyday kit.

  • @ekkanofiqandriyana7325

    and what camera and lens did you use to shoot this video.?
    the B&W are magnificent .!

  • @raulstef7472
    @raulstef7472 Před 3 lety

    How does it work with Leica M lenses? Any issues with wide angle ones? Thank you

  • @rmle23
    @rmle23 Před 2 lety +1

    Very good review, I never used a Fuji camera, but I use one Lumix GX1 who is a MFT camera whit Leica lenses using a Lumix MFT/R lenses adapter whit great results to.
    I not use heavy zoom lenses from Leica, but only the 35mm summicron and 50mm Summicron.
    The camera is even small than the Fuji and have no EVF (But you can use one the LVF-2 available as acessorie ) on the flash shoe.
    I love that combination even the GX1 is a older camera.

  • @keithjack9850
    @keithjack9850 Před 4 lety

    Love the stylish presenting style, no annoying music, you just trust he knows what he’s talking about

  • @ardis7748
    @ardis7748 Před 6 lety +1

    Wonderful Video. Keep up the great work.

  • @danicaras620
    @danicaras620 Před 4 lety

    Did you make a follow-up video on this subject?

  • @FauxtakuLounge
    @FauxtakuLounge Před 6 lety +1

    Great video, Thorsten.

  • @gabrielmaharshi
    @gabrielmaharshi Před 4 lety

    I signed up for the newsletter but I havent received the ebook yet. How will it be delivered?

  • @genoddd444
    @genoddd444 Před 6 lety +1

    Great vid! The what balance card, was it about only the Gray colour or did the black and white referance help for the adjustments too(that where o yojr card) ? if yes then do u have a linked where to buy that cool one you have ;) ?

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety

      The WhiBal® card you can find at their website whibal.com or BH photo and similar. It's the neutral tone of the grey that is important, not that it is grey. They added black and white, centimeters, inches and other stuff ... well, nobody knows why. It's the neutral are of the card (which happens to be grey) you use to "calibrate" the sensor to natural colors.

  • @andreathode3782
    @andreathode3782 Před 5 lety +1

    Really nice, mate!👍

  • @richardrivera2233
    @richardrivera2233 Před 6 lety +1

    Hello Thorsten. The reason I am interested in seeing the Fuji-Leica comparison is that in my experience each camera has its own color palette. They render colors in their own default way. There is difference in Panasonic versus Fuji, or Sony versus Olympus. And although all color rendition can be tweaked in a different direction it takes quite a bit of work to do so. In the past, photographers used different films for their pallete and characteristics, i.e., Kodachrome, versus Ektachrome, etc. The digital Leica has its own way of rendering colors. That is what I am interested in. By the way do you typically rely on the JPG or do you always use the RAW (Leica DNG) to arrive at the final image?

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety +2

      Yes, each new version of sensor (even within the same brand) renders colors their own way. If you then edit the pictures "your way" they may eventually end up looking the same despite the sensor difference. You could also have a sensor you just can't tame and get your look from.
      The M9 had very distinct colors because Leica tuned it to look as close as Kodachrome as they could (the did the same with the DMR digital back they made with Imacon and Kodak for the Leica R9). The M240 was different, and the M10 is tuned towards the M9 colors again.
      Ironically, the colors of the sensor is to a very large degree defined by the camera profile used by LR and other editing software (which translated the sensor data to colors).

    • @richardrivera2233
      @richardrivera2233 Před 6 lety +1

      Interesting info: The TL2 camera system makes use of the same Maestro II technology as is used for the Leica SL camera, and DNG files are 14 bit as well. A TL2 menu option allows the user to choose compressed or not compressed.

  • @dfj555
    @dfj555 Před 4 lety

    What are your thoughts on the Fuji GFX 50R?

  • @rainergieringer7600
    @rainergieringer7600 Před 4 lety +1

    Good afternoon, I am in process of either getting the graphite xpro 2 or maybe the Leica Q. Since you have experience with both, what would be your advise? I don’t do video. Thanks a lot

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 4 lety +2

      Leica Q any day, even a second-hand Leica Q which there are many these days where people upgrade to the 47MP Leica Q2. The Q is a great camera.

    • @rainergieringer7600
      @rainergieringer7600 Před 4 lety

      @@MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard thanks a lot!

  • @ismaelcastillo1955
    @ismaelcastillo1955 Před 6 lety +2

    Great review as always Mr.Overgaard . Fuji xpro2 is a good alternative for those who can’t or don’t want to expend 6000-7000€ in a Leica.

  • @richardrivera2233
    @richardrivera2233 Před 6 lety +2

    Thank you for commentary on the Fuji especially in comparing color quality to your Leica's. Leica color rendition is always unique. I'm looking forward to other photos with the Fuji. Your videos are beautifully shot. What cameras do you use for your videos?

  • @neilharding6092
    @neilharding6092 Před rokem

    Thorsten, did you continue with the Xpro2 and did you produce more videos on using it ?

  • @Capcity44
    @Capcity44 Před 6 lety +1

    Hello Thorsten, I didn't see the X-pro2 review on your website. Is a review forthcoming?

  • @johnmarsland3442
    @johnmarsland3442 Před 6 lety +1

    I have an xpro2 with 23mmf1.4, i was / am considering trading in for a used M9 - good idea / bad idea? someone please advise!

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety

      What feels right will be the right thing to do. If Leica seems the ultimate rangefinder, that's likely the way it goes.

  • @TheMrBennito
    @TheMrBennito Před 6 lety +1

    tx very much, mr von Overgaard. if you do not mind me asking a beginner's q: when u use that white balance card (12:42) to get color right: is the light that is reflected by that card (assuming this is what makes the card work) a sort of average representation of all the light that one wants to deal with? again, thank you.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety

      Yes, to get neutral colors you would have top pick up the light of the main subject. In front of the face, and NOT unwanted reflections from the blue sky, a yellow wall to the left, etc, but the overall light that hits the face.
      The light is distinct different in sunshine and in shadow, and in each different location in a street.
      When I walk about photographing in daylight, I will usually set it to auto white balance. Onlywhen I want precise colors, I will set the WB manually with the card (a portrait, a product photo, architecture, etc).
      Someone said here that "when you shoot raw, it doesn't matter". But the way it DOES matter is that if you don't set the WB, you will have to guess and adjust the raw file without knowing the right colors. With the WhiBal card you get a standard neutral color setting and can make artistic changes to that.

    • @TheMrBennito
      @TheMrBennito Před 6 lety

      again, thank you - for your clear reply!

  • @triggrhaapi
    @triggrhaapi Před 6 lety +1

    When were you in LA? I recognize that mural with the dog, it's near Griffith Park.

  • @ondrat9790
    @ondrat9790 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi, It is possible to use Fuji lens on Leica's body? How does it work with a rangefinder? I know that I cant focus with Fuji lens on Leica trough rangefinder, but can I focus trough LiveView?

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 2 lety +1

      If you can find a Fuji adapter and you use a Leica M240, M10 or M11 with Live View you would be able to focus it.

  • @Mr7Poz
    @Mr7Poz Před 4 lety +1

    Hard to get Leica look without the Leica lenses. I try as hard as I can to get there with my Fujis. I find turning down the saturation really helps come closer to the Leica colors. But, the Fuji colour science in general is pretty darn good.

  • @-grey
    @-grey Před 6 lety +4

    I'm so happy that your opinions of Fuji colours are the same as mine. I was starting to think I was crazy or something, talking about these issues with other Fuji owners.
    I thought it was my model.

  • @wattsrc1
    @wattsrc1 Před 3 lety

    Is there a follow up to this ?

  • @zabtej1645
    @zabtej1645 Před 6 lety +1

    Isn't that 35mm Fuji lens also a cropped 35mm (50-ish) on the X-pro2 body? I don't get that part when you say that 35 is 35....

    • @justlou717
      @justlou717 Před 2 lety

      I agree with you, it seemed like an incorrect statement because it doesn’t match my understanding of what 35mm means. I know that Fuji does not label/name for “FF equivalent” so it’s a real 35mm. It would have the same crop
      Must say Thorsten, I love your videos and when you share your perspective. Bravo on taking on a new kit like the x-pro 2 to truly get to understand it 😀

  • @estevamcarvalho8332
    @estevamcarvalho8332 Před 6 lety +1

    Well done Thor ! Could you share please where did you got those nice leather straps ?

  • @tantsura
    @tantsura Před 6 lety +1

    +Magic Of Light, What camera you use to shoot your vlogs ? Thank you.

  • @peasantrobot
    @peasantrobot Před 6 lety +2

    For the Fujifilm colors, you must have experience in using Fujifilm color emulsions. If you like them and want that look, then there are the film simulations. As you know, a film is not always about the perfect reproduction of the colors. And with experience, you know which emulsion (Kodak, Fujifilm) to use in a specific moment of the day or night or for a specific type of photography. Many of us have had enough about how the "real" colors are looking today in a very polluted environment. So, we enjoy specific emulsions of film. Even you are altering the colors in a post processing program to get the look you desire. Try to find that look in a specific film emulsion (not digital simulation).

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety +1

      I agree. When I talk about colors, I'm mainly talking about the raw colors as they appear in Lightroom. And Capture One as well. I generally don't use filters myself, and I don't use JPG presets in camera.

  • @camerarover7124
    @camerarover7124 Před 6 lety +1

    Hello Thorsten, an interesting video. You raise some good points. The predecessor, (the X-pro 1) is a much simpler and intuitive camera to operate, less thrills and sub menus and more in-keeping with the Leica system. I actually find the sensor output more to my liking. It rewards creativity. Have you tried it?

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety +1

      No, I didn't try the X-Pro1. I did spend a morning coffee time counting menu points and sub-menus on the X-Pro2 and did the same on the Leica M10 and Leica Q and Leica TL2 to compare in the article. The Fuji X-Pro 2 is fundamentally a good camera. Made complicated, but fundamentally good.

  • @JMackUK
    @JMackUK Před 6 lety +1

    Great watch. Thanks!

  • @AndySnap
    @AndySnap Před 6 lety +1

    I'll be very interested to see your user review after a time with the Fuji, as you are a long time Leica M user. The two cameras are similar in principal, but very different experiences to shoot with I imagine?? And I want to see the X-Pro2 well brassed and well used like your M's!

  • @LEARNHOMEOPATHY
    @LEARNHOMEOPATHY Před 6 lety +2

    agree with you about all the the buttons and wheels

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite Před 6 lety

      I'm about to receive a GX85 from eBay (I hear the postal chick's rattly truck right now).
      One reason I picked it was fewer such buttons & switches, tilting LCD, and still a Leica-type form factor. We'll see if it does what I hope it does.
      Only thing, the smaller M4:3 sensor kind of bothers me. It might still be capable of better photos than I am, though!

  • @alexDreplay
    @alexDreplay Před 5 lety +1

    I love my X-Pro2 and the 16mm. .

  • @Beinhartwie1chopper
    @Beinhartwie1chopper Před 10 měsíci

    Do you still use the fuji?

  • @johnpicciano2839
    @johnpicciano2839 Před rokem +1

    thorsten. i have a question sine you have so many diffrent leicas i was hoping you cant help me with my first leica camera , choices are 1. leica m8,with a voightlander 35mm1.4 no.2 a leica q, and last the leica cl, i am comming from a fujifilm xe2 with a 35mm2.0 lens. thanks

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před rokem

      Leica Q is great. It will lead you to Leica M8 or other Leica M. So both are great choices. CL is not being produced anymore, so sort of a dead end as of now.

  • @killahbong
    @killahbong Před 6 lety +1

    It's good to try it even if you are a leica user. The bottom line is to use the Fuji x-pro 2 with the leica lens for different photographic results?

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety +1

      My bottom line is that Fuji with Fuji lenses are a good result. Fuji with Leica lenses are mostly not a great result because the Fuji lenses works great with the help of software correction for the lens.

    • @killahbong
      @killahbong Před 6 lety

      Im just curious as this Video title Fujifilm X-Pro2 vs Leica, i wonder which Leica model camera is the Fujifilm X-Pro2 counterpart in terms of quality shot and over all photo results.

  • @peringemarson3898
    @peringemarson3898 Před 6 lety +2

    As a Fuji xpro2 shoter im following you for your photo insights and inspiration you give. And maby bye time and saving I Will get a Leica. Very intresseded to your thoughts and if there Will be a follow up video on your xpro2. Keep posting like you do you are a role model. Per

  • @NetvoTV
    @NetvoTV Před 4 lety +2

    What’s your thought on X Pro 3?

  • @sunnemusic
    @sunnemusic Před 6 lety +2

    My pocket in trip: Leica MP Film (2003), Leica M9M , and X-Pro2. Other than 1 or 2 Fuji zoom / WR lens will standby on journalist scenes, every Leica glass always give promising images, incomparable.
    In terms of Mechanical Perfection, a Leica M body truly makes you feel that you are the one to blame if something is not at best during the shuttering. This feeling projects more and more in the field and motivates you to a sense of duty to improve your skill. Leica refers to fundamentals.
    However, I must thank Fujifilm dear Engineers and (budget controller) for putting all things together with improving qualities that is very difficult from a company with history. Genius move and the history will be made, on some day the game is changed.
    Hybrid-VF Patent is still on yours, Fuji. Don't let this XPro ideas fading out. Get an Hrybrid-Perfection model and see how Leica dance with that.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety

      You pay a lot of money for the extra perfection from good enough camera to really perfect camera. Personal choice if one is willing to go all the way, and no blame for doing either.

  • @caltetm1891
    @caltetm1891 Před 6 lety +1

    Unfortunately you have chosen the wrong title for you XPRO 2 review (not vs) but that's maybe good as I was anxious you would have to say that xpro2 is good but Leica is better... I have xpro1 and xpro2 and love them, but would love a Leica SL too if I could afford it:-)'

  • @evelasq1
    @evelasq1 Před 3 lety

    Sir you got it wrong about the Fujifilm 35mm lens being a 35mm because in APSC crop factor, the lens is equivalent to a 52.5mm lens.

  • @shred3005
    @shred3005 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the photos in Havana

  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus Před 3 lety

    In my film days, I shot with Nikon SLR and Leica rangefinder 35mm cameras.
    In the digital age, I shot with Nikon dSLR and Fuji mirrorless cameras.
    I shot with the Fuji X-Pro1 and X-Pro2 Fuji mirrorless as I waited for Leica to introduce a digital rangefinder that I liked. In 2017, the Leica M10 seemed to be close to the Leica rangefinder for which I had been waiting. Regretfully, my black M10 was defective and I had to send it back to Leica for a refund.
    This month, I bought a chrome M10. I hope I will have more luck with this one than I did with the first one.

  • @n.n.1279
    @n.n.1279 Před 4 lety

    Q: How important are the colors you get in a raw file, when you edit the image afterwards? I mean, you can change all colors more or less and create the result you are looking for. What is wrong in my assumption? Answers are most appreciated! Thanks!

  • @alexgrd75
    @alexgrd75 Před 6 lety +1

    I 100% agree with you. To much useless features on Fuji cameras. Don't you think Fuji sensors give to much "piqué" ? Like it is almost to sharp ?

  • @NetvoTV
    @NetvoTV Před 6 lety

    Can you tell me mor about Leica XY/CL, what do you think about it? I'm sure you have been used it for long! 😘

  • @lightscrimmage
    @lightscrimmage Před 6 lety +2

    this was free?

  • @RodrigoCabralPhotographer

    Try also the X-100F with the 23mm fixed lens with a leaf shutter you will be surprised.

    • @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard
      @MagicOfLight_ThorstenOvergaard  Před 6 lety

      More considering going up in models. I tired the X-100 when it came out, vrery briefly, and didn't feel attracted.

  • @maxmac1545
    @maxmac1545 Před 4 lety

    Would be interested in your jpg recipes!

  • @jeffreyb.1657
    @jeffreyb.1657 Před 3 lety

    Great video...next will look to the xpro3 if you've done one on it. They have an aF converter for M lenses now........third party.

  • @scrambagorg
    @scrambagorg Před 4 lety

    Really like the raw and monochrome jpeg tip