TESTED 2018 Golf R Fuel Economy + All Modes
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We take a look at all three driving modes and compare the fuel economy for each one! Eco Mode vs Normal Mode vs Race Mode.
[[ Golf R 2.0 TSI 310PS Manual 5 Door ]]
19" Inch Pretoria Alloys
Panoramic Sunroof
White Silver Metallic Paint
LED Headlights with Dynamic Indicators
2 x USB Ports for charging
90% Tinted Rear Glass
Keyless Entry
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Wireless Phone Charger
Dynaudio 'Excite' Sound Pack
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I believe the difference for the manual car is just the throttle characteristic - Race is what's referred to as a 'Quick Opening' characteristic, Normal is an 'Equal percentage' characteristic and Eco is a 'Modified Equal Percent' curve. If you have the DSG then you'll get differing shift points.
Once u changed the mode to race mode do u have to shift the gear stick to the sports mode? from the video u only changed the drive mode to race but did u change the gear stick?
What would the normal mode that I have be equal to.
Would comfort mode equal economy mode?
ECOmode with a DSG and you will feel a difference how the auto works
Definitely... ECO mode also coasts to improve mpg with a DSG
yup with a 6 speed the only benefit with eco mode is basically having the car say “hey you can be saving more fuel”.
good to see the test done this way but would also like to see the difference between eco and sport with following the cars “suggestions”
Can you get the different driving modes in the new R even if you don't buy the DCC option? If yes then I guess the different driving modes only influence steering stiffness, throttle response and gear changing (suspensions remain always in the same settings)?
How comfortable/sporty are the suspentions of the R without DCC?
Yes, you can, but DCC also gives you the Comfort driving mode. In Race Mode, the suspension and steering stiffen.
Hi Dave, Good video. I have the DSG Estate doing roughly the same milage as you. I notice a massive difference in the fuel, power and drive when switching between the different modes. I'm kind of glad to notice such a difference and the power under your foot. When in Race mode there is far to much power for my wife. She feels much more comfortable when she jumps in the car and drives in Eco/Normal. It also means I can use that saved petrol in race mode :)
Hi Dan thanks for the comment, do you think it's because you drive differently in those modes? If you drive the car in Eco like you do in Race, I imagine the MPG would be just as bad as if it was set in Race. Hehe more fuel for Dan then!
Eco and Race are so different on the DSG I guess I can't help but drive differently. Eco mode is pretty sluggish when you put your foot down it will only drop one gear if your lucky, sometimes the pick up would be in the same gear. However, race will drop you two gears and you're off! Great video's btw
I think you made a valid point about race vs the lesser modes which would make it easier to get better mpg - that there's no urge to put your foot down when there's little power anyway. This encourages more economical driving to get better mpg as ecodriving is all you can do! Impressed anyway as this car is quicker to 60 than some w12 bentleys that barely better 15mpg.
Thanks for your comment!
I don’t understand why you only got 1k subscribers? All your videos are top class.
Thank you Stephen!
We tried this with our DSG yesterday. 65 miles each direction - south London, M25, A21 dual & single carriageway. 36.3 mpg there in Normal, 31.0 mpg back in Race. (We left it in Race even in the traffic queues to be a fair comparison!) Normal got up to 37.9 mpg cruising on the motorway.
Interesting! Thanks for trying it out.
Did you set your DSG to D or S mode?
Ar Gwenn in Normal it’s D, in Race it’s S.
I did so much maths because i was curious about some things. Thanks for this informative video.
Chuckling at day two - all suited & booted, then for the drive - a blue tee... and back to the suit for the day in the office 😂
Joking aside a good informative video thanks Dave. Is the coasting feature only on the DSG’s? In my current A3 8V SB with S-tronic, I notice the difference in eco and this is mainly due to coasting I feel.
Would be interesting to see how a DSG performs on the same journey.
(Nearly got the nights shots too) 😉
Haha - Dave is like Superman when he's driving! He just spins in the seat and he's wearing a Stable t-shirt.
Yes, coasting is only on DSG models. Night video coming soon!
Race mode is such a beastly sound but love it.
I have the manual 7.5 R and it doesn't really make any difference to my economy what mode I have it in, so I use race mode pretty much all the time, drive it pretty hard, and have been averaging 35.8mpg long term.
Cheers for the insight!
Nice one. Good test mate. 🖒 for me it's comfort or sport on my gti. The others hold no appeal
Nice one fella and at last a bloke who talk proper about car with no bullshit. I have a Clubsport Gti 3 door DSG and your economy is more or less the same, infact yours is a little better. The only difference in Economy Setting with the DSG Box is if you take tour foot off the DSG goes into free wheel mode just the same as a pushbike, engine drops to idle and freewheels like a pushbike, nice one fella, enjoyed that.
No problem! That's what we're going for. Too many people just talking official stats.
Aye, you are good lads, proper blokes who don't take shit, I'm ex-trade.
Great video.
This would be interesting to test this with the DSG in auto mode. I think there would be a much bigger impact. :)
Most likely!
Agreed; had a BMW 218 auto as a hire car in Spain. Difference between Dynamic and Eco was all in the auto gear selection and throttle response. Eco mode with manual gearbox is a bit pointless it seems.
Good vid though. Try with a DSG!
I think Eco mode was designed with DSG in mind and Vw just put it on the manual Cars to keep people happy , so really it's just a gimmick on the manual transmission.
Tottenham Hotspur the mighty pretenders definitely.
I've been driving my new R for over 2 weeks and the difference between race mode and eco mode is massive!
Eco mode will generally idle the engine so the car rolls when going downhill, but race mode will keep it in the gear which will always provide it the most power which is usually revving at about 4,000 rpm.
The use of both will give about 250-300 miles on a full tank. Not bad at all!
Joe Summers : I can't see how if people have driven manual and DSG they still pick a manual even if it is around 3 grand more : /
On my manual 2015 golf r you really see the difference when motorway driving using the ACC.
The "Eco mode" loses speed much slower when you lower the selected speed and gains speed much slower when you raise the selected speed..........can be be worrying on sections of the m25/smart motorways with cameras as simply selecting a lower speed means a long time until it decreases.....
I can say using the "Auto Hold" and "Eco mode" saves money in start/stop driving in towns/city's with out doubt.
Good video, Worth saying that you have a manual and the different modes dont affect the gears that much, if at all. tho the dsg each mode has an affect on the gears, eco and race mode especially. Dsg would be a good seperate vid just to see. 👍🏼
are eco normal and race standard or have you got DCC fitted to this car ?
The cars that have the Comfort option they have DCC.
Great Vid Dave. Thanks for doing it. Just goes to show that all these different 'modes' are all well and good, but it's how we actually drive that has a far greater influence on mpg, that how the car is set up. I think these 'modes' encourage us drive a certain way, and it's that distinction that makes us drive differently that effects mpg. The 'modes' themselves seem to do very little in terms of having an effect on the car itself, more of how we perceive, as motorists, that we should drive the vehicle in that particular mode. It's almost like having certain music on in the car, has been proven to effect peoples driving styles. Similar concept.
You're probably right!
Doesn't really matter either way though. What really is interesting from your vid is how encouraging the mpg is in any mode. Okay, it's not going to be 'Green car of the year' but mid 30's from a Golf R, is not too bad at all I think. So from that point of view the vid was a success in from than one aspect. Thanks again Dave!
One of my colleagues had a MK7 (pre facelift) R DSG, stage 2 APR and his long term average was about 15mpg (UK). That's with a flowing 20 mile commute as well. Guess he was just constantly hooning it.
Hard not to in this type of car!
It would be interesting to test how accurate the mpg reading actually is.
I tested it, it is accurate. Now I just trust the readings.
Cause you are in manual and you did not even got over 5k rpm in race mode.
Any way to run a test in a DSG?
We're planning a DSG test soon! This was more a test of daily commute type traffic.
I have a Canadian model. Treating it sweet in eco mode we get 23.5 mpg USG. It must be the fuel here. Our octane hi is 91. I'm thinking thats the difference???? thoughts???
Good question, we'll have to check what octane fuel we put in, but not sure!
91??? Can you even call that fuel 😂..Mines runs on 99 all the time!
@@LEWISJAXON1 lol, best we get here is 94 made from corn..... Terrible economy but great performance!
Did he mention the dampening ? And the ease/ toughness in steering wheel during modes also? Aside from the silly tones. Lol. Which I like. But he was obsessed.
So here in the states - we just have comfort, normal, race and custom. The best I’ve gotten is 22 in normal and comfort. But that’s mostly city driving. Should I get it checked out?
If you're concerned, it's probably best to get it checked, but we don't know the normal mpg for the US, sorry!
Stable Lease I am surprised that you guys over there use mpg. I thought you bought petro in liters.
Paddy M. In the states does comfort mode include eating a burger aswell
cater anytink at times it dies.:)
does
I'm gonna keep my golf R in race mode from now on. Thanks
Do it.
How's the ride quality like in comfort mode?
A little softer...but not a massive difference in my opinion.
What does the long term mpg read? Short journeys doesn't count in my experience. U will probably be 28 mpg if your sensible ish?
We didn't have it long enough for it to have a meaningful reading on the long term mpg, sadly.
I assumed that in eco mode it just reduced the throttle response etc
Everyone always review the bloody sound, and you are doing an excellent job, one that matters. Thank you. Can you do the same on RS3 & 4/5 Audi as well as C43 & 63 Merc thats if you can get your hands on those.
Thanks for the love Sgodo! We'll try and get our hands on the Audis, it's unlikely we'll get the Mercs though but we'll try for you ☺️
Are you going to do the same test with the dsg
We'll add it to the list Peter
Would like to see this with DSG
I managed to get 40mpg in Eco mode in a DSG golf r 7.5 :) Urban, mixture of round town and dual carriageways.
Cheers for your insight.
would like to see this test on a clear highway using cruise control to get a better idea but that's not always possible i guess..
Sadly not!
If you do the same in a DSG with DCC you will see a difference between not only the mpg but the driving experience as well.
We're planning a DSG test soon!
Stable Lease make sure you test with DCC as well on standard 18s. DCC won't change the mpg but does make a difference on UK roads.
I do get up to 29 mpg on freeway going about 70 mph. City is like 20 mpg.
I just taped over the button in mine. Permanent race mode of course...
Does the car remember the last mode you used or does it start in a default mode?
The car starts in the last mode you were in, so if you turned the ignition off in Race mode, it'll start in Race mode.
Also, how are you getting such a good MPG? In the US the Golf R gets 23 city, 30 highway.
Matt Spraggins we have a higher grade of fuel in the UK so the engine doesn't need to use so much to get the required 'bang' and power. You guys in the US have a lower grade fuel hence the increased fuel consumption.
Matt, UK also has a different mpg conversion than in the US
Great video
Cheers
It's not a pointless test. It really shows if there is a change in engine mapping, timing, how much fuel is being delivered. Good to see a test without just changing up the shift points like a dsg would show
Thanks Brian - haters gunna hate, but we agree, it was a useful test.
Great ! 34 is definitely nice and not so far off my current CC 170 Diesel that runs about 38. I look forward to testing all this myself in 2 weeks when I get my R! Keep up the great videos Dave !
Thanks! We hope you enjoy your new car!
On my golf GTD, you feel a difference when you put it in the 3 different modes, in eco, it feels sluggish when you put your foot down, it changes at the lower revs possible and will cut the power to the engine, the second you stop.if you put it in cruise mode it will also cost when ever possible to save petrol.
In normal mode its faster, and it only cuts power to the engine if you stop for a long time.
In sports mode, the acceleration is much faster and you hear the engine more, also the stop start does not wrok because the car assumes you going to speed off.
Anything that turns that start/stop off is a bonus 👌
My bluemotion 2.0 is the same, sport mode is all go under foot for sure! Eco mode im getting an easy 80mpg highway with 40psi tyres 64 on cruise control. Amazing.
Hi, I have an R and i can tell you that if you drive longer distances you will see between 10 and 15 % difference using race mode. It is when you floor it for motorway over taking. In Eco mode, it hold the gears for only a short period of time. Before you know it your in sixth. In race mode you want even get to sixth. My advice is Eco for commuting and race for empty late night or early starts. Like you say you can always add the sound in Eco or normal modes, by using google individual.
Thanks for the insight, Andy!
They're driving a manual in the video.
yes, sure i can only comment on DSG and as i said there is distinct differences with the auto
But I think the main difference lies in the D and S modes of the DSG gearbox. These have massive influence on the fuel economy as well. Just swith between them when you standing in a traffic jam and watch the fuel computer display. The driving modes are onla interesting for the differences in engine sound and the work of wipers, headlights etc.
Other than race mode I feel the other modes are pointless.. drive it everywhere in race mode, take full control of gear box yourself so you can change when you want to
Marvey Singh the hardness of the dampening sucks in my city in race mode. Pothole hit. Once. Rim bent. Same pothole at night in comfort mode and was coming back the other way. Hit the fkn thing again. No dent and a lot more forgiveness in the suspension. Need it in the city. NYC sucks w potholes. Hand grenade testing site goods. Race mode keeps u breaking hard and killing yourself to avoid them. 💯
+1 In a DSG it will change up earlier. My Cupra changes around 4k even on kickdown in Comfort.
Thanks David
So it says UK after it. I get nowhere near that in the US. Is that per liter or what?
Tommy O a US gallon is 4.2 litres and a UK gallon is 4.5 litres so I guess that is why it shows slightly worse in the US?
What camera was that, a GH4?
We have a Sony A6300
Race mode in sport on dsg make it fart in every gear 😁👍
So would the dsg be more economical
Yes, I have owned a mk7.5 R for 3 years now and all the modes are the same they just mess with the fake sound in the car and race mode opens the valves in the exhaust. Its the gear box that increases the fuel economy not the engine l, when the DSG is in sports mode the rev’s are high it’s like the choke is on and is more responsive.
you need to do a full tank in race its more like 22mpg
And with the gear box in sport!
Greetings from bizzaro Trump world - great video - in the USA we have comfort, normal, race and custom.
It looks like you go mostly freeway at a constant speed. Just do a city test in each mode.
We edited out the city driving footage, but there was plenty of it.
An old video BUT still relevant today ... SO why did we not get a screen shot of the stats like in the Eco mode for Normal and Race then we could also compare miles traveled, Average speed, Time it took and actually see what the mpg showed... and also to compare the times home for Eco and Race as the first video it was still light when driving home and at home, yet in the Race mode it was darker driving home and arriving at home ... a screen shot also would have shown the time as it did in Eco... AND in Race mode you can see the driver constantly changing the gear shift so looks like it was in manual mode and not auto... ALSO driving conditions would have been different with each journey (they are never the same each day I drive to work and back home) . ALSO vehicle fuel gauges and fuel used is not reliable and a true fuel check would have correctly measured fuel used, AND a true check should have been on an off road circuit with hills, dips, curves etc. at a constant speed, without the variables in on road traffic conditions. AND as he said why would you buy a Golf R and drive in Eco?
Interesting video thanks for posting. I recently (just last month) got rid of my old petrol Mk 2 Audi TT and bought a new diesel 2.0 litre Golf GT with a 7 speed DSG auto gear box. This was because I am now doing a daily commute much like yours of 70 miles round trip (perhaps just a fraction more). I am still playing around with the driving modes but I am consistently getting an average of over 65 miles per gallon, mostly using economy mode when on the M5. Even in economy I still feel as though there is a load of response and i have no trouble passing anything. I’m going to try doing what you did with the modes and see if there is any major difference. Cheers.
Thanks for commenting Jonathan.....we'd be interested to hear your thoughts when you have finished testing in the different modes...keep us posted please 👍
I ended up on your video because I'm still trying to figure out differences between ECO and Comfort mode, as they are very similar indeed. But I completely disagree with your assessment in comparing Eco and Normal mode. Eco mode, as I came to notice in most cars is pretty annoying, it basically holds the car back, it delays the car responses. When you accelerate pressing the gas pedal, unconsciously compensate for that and yes the power is still there. But the difference is huge between Eco and Normal in terms of throttle response. On a DSG is very obvious, especially if using Cruise control. The Sport mode makes the DCC too stiff for some roads. On perfect roads you can't feel a difference, only behaves better at curves, but in the real world, putting the DCC in comfort is the way to go for me. I can take the sport mode for a little while but it has to be all about driving, cause it won't be comfortable at all, due to stiff suspension and loud noise. And you can get very good fuel economy in Sport mode, but it depends a lot about your driving style. I have a commute of only 7 km and I also tried different modes for comparison. The difference was significant that I decided not to ignore the Eco mode. In some cars is really hurting using that mode, but VW made a car that's worth exploring every "gimmick".
Does anyone else hate the ridge shape of the steering wheel on Golfs where you put your hands? Can't stand how uncomfortable those ridges are.
i have no idea how you manage such a good fuel consumption in this car.. i have the 2018 GTI which is supposed to have a combined MPG of 44 as apposed to your 37 in the R.. in the real world i drive like a complete granny in ECO mode and only manage 24 mpg... in no traffic, without a heavy foot.. impossible to even touch 30 MPG for me even when driving very conservatively .
I also have no idea how you manage to not get more than 24mpg, or 9.8l/100km. The trick to fuel economy is not granny driving but smooth driving. Try driving normal, with the traffic and I'm sure you'll get better. Also keep in mind that this car will always tell you from the start you are at about 5-6 mpg. It drops very fast in the first 5-10 minutes but if your trips are very short, don't be surprised with the low mileage numbers. Drive some more, half hour at least, and you'll see the numbers approaching the advertised ones, or exceed them by a lot, as in my case. I got more than 45mpg as a record, 38 stable on a nice ride and quite often 28-ish in the city. Short trips stay around 23-26mpg. Also, don't idle. The more you do, the less efficient your rates will be.
So Eco mode is only available on DCC cars? I don't have that on mine.
I'm not sure I'd say gimmick because the steering gets a little heavier too in race but that said race offers no performance boost. I'm glad you did this video. I've always thought there was very little difference, if any at all in performance. Yet reviewers always say there is a difference.
The truth is revealed. It's not a performance deference, it's a difference in experience, noise, stiffness and steering weight.
Some reviewers will just be reading off a spec-sheet instead of actually testing it themselves. We imagine there would be a difference if we had a DSG model, or if we were driving longer distances.
Neil Porter no power gains but a lot in body response and stiffness of the ride when going through modes especially steering
Neil Porter your talking nonsense mate. 2 litre diesel x 2 litre petrol , the diesel will do a lot more miles with the same size of tank.
Mine said after 2000 miles the average was 26 thats with using only v power. And with a heavy foot:) the best was 34 driving normal. It's never even been in eco who
Not doing too bad then Jamster! A fuel economical Golf R, who'd have thought.
Stable Lease pretty good really as my mates evo gets about 12 and that's his daily car.. Sod that! 7.5 next:)
12! oh dear
enjoyed that but expect DSG would improve on that somewhat
Most likely! We're hoping to get our hands on a DSG model soon.
Wish I could get that haha lucky if I get 17mpg
Hi. The 2018 golf r is 293 BHP, not 310. I believe. sorry to point this out, but correct me if I'm wrong. Great vid though
The new Golf R is 300PS, however when we filmed this model was a 310PS.
An irrelevant test without using a DSG. The DSG drives per the mode selected not the person in the car. For example eco DSG disengages clutch regularly, normal mode changes up asap, and race mode obviously holds lower gears longer for better response (amongst others). None of this is in effect in the manual.
We'll do the same test with DSG soon.
26mpg in race mode erh
🤷♂️
70 miles a day, get yourself a GTD I get 60mpg on the motorway
Keep the dislike at zeRooo!!
You know it!
The sound is fake in a golf R. It is piped in through the speakers. So that is simply switched off when not in race
It's not fake, it's just amplified, in Eco mode the exhaust still pops and bangs.
As far as I am aware there is a speaker just below the windscreen which pumps a deep tone through the cabin
@@freddiejones4598 Not a speaker as such, the 'sound aktor' as its called, is more a vibrator :D
The exhaust is also valved lol
3:40 the engine sounds are fake though aren't they?