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  • čas přidán 15. 06. 2024
  • Conservator Hayley Tomlinson tackles cleaning a Joshua Reynolds painting, 'Captain Robert Orme'.
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    00:00-00:34 Introduction
    00:35-01:36 What is the story in this painting?
    01:37-02:53 Reynolds' experimental style of painting
    02:54-05:45 How do we clean this difficult picture?
    05:46-05:59 Outro
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Komentáře • 137

  • @msb5775
    @msb5775 Před 2 lety +120

    So basically, conservators are chemists and historians in one. Absolutely talented

  • @dawnmichelle4403
    @dawnmichelle4403 Před 2 lety +926

    I'd love to see the restoration/conservation in its entirety! I enjoy Julian Baumgartner's conservation videos, and it would be interesting to see how his processes differ from yours.

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  Před 2 lety +238

      Hi Dawn, the conservation process for this painting is still happening but we wanted to show the early stages here! But we do have a whole playlist showing how our Conservation team work here: czcams.com/play/PLvb2y26xK6Y4i1rQVRppfR3mBHcwybGA0.html

    • @dawnmichelle4403
      @dawnmichelle4403 Před 2 lety +44

      @@nationalgallery thank you!

  • @humdinger5701
    @humdinger5701 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm so glad we have people like Hayley. It's because of people like her the rest of us have the chance to experience and enjoy our history.

  • @pamelahofman1785
    @pamelahofman1785 Před 2 lety +150

    Cleaning paintings has always been a subject of interest to me because it seems so delicate and difficult to do without damaging the original artwork. I'm in awe of Hayley's expertise. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @johncooper6413
    @johncooper6413 Před 2 lety +32

    Very clear and informative. Forgive a military pedant, but Captain Orme was carrying a despatch about GENERAL Braddock’s defeat and death.

  • @Pollyalba
    @Pollyalba Před 2 lety +109

    I love her clear and calm way to deliver informations, it was very interesting and relaxing at the same time!

  • @njlillycline
    @njlillycline Před 2 lety +59

    I have a copy of this portrait; Capt. Orme and I share a great-grandfather, Col. Ninian Beall, and so I felt compelled to commemorate him by adding him to my collection! It’s large, but not this large. Thanks for all you do to preserve these beautiful works of art.

  • @coreygrua3271
    @coreygrua3271 Před 2 lety +143

    One marvels at such knowledge, both of an acknowledged master and the methods needed to preserve his masterpieces. I am full of wonder.

    • @JJONNYREPP
      @JJONNYREPP Před 2 lety +2

      Why are paintings by Reynolds so difficult to clean? | Art Restoration | National Gallery 2.3.22 1648pm peace in our time, or so they said....

  • @Siansonea
    @Siansonea Před 2 lety +394

    Is there a way to determine if the varnish sandwiched between paint layers is actually between original paint layers? Could it be that the varnish boundary is the original paint layer, and the paint above it was added later to "improve" the painting by conservators? How would you make that distinction?

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  Před 2 lety +366

      Hi there, great question. It’s true that a varnish layer between paint layers could be a 'boundary' between the original paint and not original layers added at some point in the 'life of the painting'. So, we analyse the various layers checking the pigments and binding media, as often the materials used in later restorations are different from those used by the artist. Sometimes we’re even able to date a retouching layer based on the presence of pigments we know were introduced at a specific time in history!

  • @stvp68
    @stvp68 Před 2 lety +4

    The visuals of the fluorescence are very helpful

  • @peterolsen6454
    @peterolsen6454 Před 2 lety +10

    One of the clearest explanations (visuals and their insertion) I have seen in a long time.

  • @RamadaArtist
    @RamadaArtist Před 2 lety +1

    As someone who has a degree in painting and was considering studying art conservation before settling on fine arts, I both appreciate this explanation of the process, and the fact that whenever you're wearing the magnifying glasses and talking to the camera you lean your head back like you're just a totally chill dude-bro. Not at all the intentional vibe of the rest of the content, but aesthetically I enjoy the juxtaposition of themes.

  • @ssutherland2526
    @ssutherland2526 Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you Hayley for taking the time to clearly explain the conservation process and challenges presented to the conservator.

  • @cstz
    @cstz Před 2 lety +50

    I loved how the information was presented in this video, very clear and easy to understand. Great as always!

  • @dumoulin11
    @dumoulin11 Před 2 lety +8

    What a fascinating job this must be.

  • @MatteBlacke
    @MatteBlacke Před rokem

    I find this to be extremely interesting. I had never considered the complexities of art conservation. Fascinating.

  • @MaxTSanches
    @MaxTSanches Před 2 lety +3

    Amazing the amount of chemistry that an art conserbator needs to know. :)

  • @imaginaryguide1895
    @imaginaryguide1895 Před 2 lety +8

    Excited to see how this painting's restoration progresses!

  • @mariacolon107
    @mariacolon107 Před 2 lety +28

    I had a similar situation with a painting where we found that a mixture of 20% acetone with 80% MEK worked quite well, without leaving any residue nor affecting the pictorial image. However, we did have to swell the top varnish layer, leave it to dry and then come back at it again just to be cautious of the resins that were found inside the paint layer. Hope it all works out with this piece!

  • @Missmethinksalot1
    @Missmethinksalot1 Před 2 lety

    Hayley Tomlinson spoke so so well. Instantly subscribed!

  • @mynameistaken99
    @mynameistaken99 Před 2 lety

    I could listen to her talk all day!

  • @rembvanrijn
    @rembvanrijn Před 2 lety +10

    As ever, fascinating. Brings an over-familiar work into a new context.

  • @Danny........
    @Danny........ Před 2 lety +5

    I started watching Baumgartner restoration a while back. Love his videos. I'm so glad to have found yours. These videos are so interesting. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @GaitaPonto
    @GaitaPonto Před 2 lety +8

    pause @ 5:41 and see the "X" structure that holds the painting matching the lines of the image almost perfectly.

  • @vintagelvr4381
    @vintagelvr4381 Před 2 lety +15

    absolutely fascinating. I had no idea of the history of varnishes and how different they were. Excellent video and very educational, thank you.

  • @MicaRayan
    @MicaRayan Před 2 lety +2

    What a painstaking process there is. Thankfully, with much skills and experiences it eventually giving ultimate justice to the painting at last.

  • @pairoleggs
    @pairoleggs Před 2 lety +2

    i love how baumgartner fans have been summoned to this video

  • @LumenPsycho
    @LumenPsycho Před 2 lety

    The patience this kind of job requires is tremendous.

  • @Thirdeyeddeer
    @Thirdeyeddeer Před 2 lety +11

    Arh this is my biggest dream to become a conservator, and I absolutely adore this video! So admireable to hear her knowledge about the art and all the methods! This inspire me even more to finish my education. amazing video :-)

  • @Raeptree
    @Raeptree Před 2 lety

    I’m related to Sir Joshua Reynolds, loved seeing this on my suggested vids on CZcams

  • @DipityS
    @DipityS Před 2 lety +7

    Fascinating! To have to remove four layers must mean this will be a long task - I'd be very interested to see the end and what could and couldn't be removed of the old varnish.

  • @virginiaensinck5828
    @virginiaensinck5828 Před 10 měsíci

    What an awesome and complicated work!! 😯👏👏

  • @cree8vision
    @cree8vision Před 2 lety +3

    Absolutely fascinating about all the different technologies involved in cleaning and restoring.

  • @what2watchyt
    @what2watchyt Před 2 lety

    So natural and smooth the way she works.

  • @leoren2685
    @leoren2685 Před 2 lety +2

    Great presentation and the graphics really helped to understand the issues. Bravo!

  • @DrewWasMe
    @DrewWasMe Před 2 lety +1

    Fascinating work.

  • @Nichomachean5
    @Nichomachean5 Před 2 lety

    That... was... fascinating.

  • @hshwhitten
    @hshwhitten Před 2 lety +1

    Absolutely astonishing.

  • @susanhepburn6040
    @susanhepburn6040 Před 2 lety +12

    Fascinating as always! Thank you very much.

  • @chrishoo2
    @chrishoo2 Před 2 lety

    What a job & a half! Total nightmare- I’m in awe of you & your work.

  • @saf1819
    @saf1819 Před 2 lety +7

    Beautiful work.

    • @JJONNYREPP
      @JJONNYREPP Před 2 lety

      Why are paintings by Reynolds so difficult to clean? | Art Restoration | National Gallery 1652PM 2.3.22 no idea why i imagined klimt to be looking at pain under a microscope to garner ideas for his style of oeuvre...

  • @jourdainjardin846
    @jourdainjardin846 Před 2 lety +7

    I wish these videos could be longer. And more of them. I’m sure you would get a lot of views and earn ad revenue. Best wishes

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  Před 2 lety +5

      Hi Jourdain, you're in luck - we have a whole playlist from our Conservation studios! czcams.com/play/PLvb2y26xK6Y4i1rQVRppfR3mBHcwybGA0.html

  • @SimonGardiner-bj3pq
    @SimonGardiner-bj3pq Před 17 dny

    I cleaned what was probably a preparatory sketch for a major Reynolds portrait? Tomlinson has very accurately described the problems with Reynolds. He loved to saturate each layer of paint he applied, with a varnish. This results in several layers of paint - separated by a much more soluble - or fugitive - varnish. Thus a number of his works have been easily 'overcleaned' in previous centuries. (This does not seem to be the situation with the better quality paintings in the NG! )To add insult to injury, layers of later overpaint were applied in order to 'replace what had been lost in the cleaning! I had to distinguish between the overpaint and Reynold's paint - without dissolving away the varnish between the Reynold's paint layers. Tomlinson's technique is therefore very sound, and requires great skill.

  • @Am3lia77
    @Am3lia77 Před 2 lety +2

    I've been studying these restoration techniques at uni so this is very interesting to see 😯

  • @jenniferholden9397
    @jenniferholden9397 Před 2 lety

    You are doing a great job Hayley, I just wish it was me, but I chose nursing instead until I wrecked my back, badly. The knowledge and expertise you have is phenomenal. Well done. Oh and another reason I live in north Lancashire 12 miles away from Cumbria and 10 miles from Yorkshire so it would have taken a lot to leave my family and my home. 🌹

  • @Ben-eo5vd
    @Ben-eo5vd Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic overview & explanation!

  • @celynnec
    @celynnec Před 2 lety

    i thought this was about ryan reynolds, was not disappointed by the restoration.

  • @amymcnamara8467
    @amymcnamara8467 Před 2 lety

    Fascinating!!

  • @amolarteraffaella1412
    @amolarteraffaella1412 Před 2 lety +3

    Stupendo. Grazie.

  • @georgegasmatron1
    @georgegasmatron1 Před 2 lety +1

    Fascinating knowledge.

  • @hay_bail1
    @hay_bail1 Před 2 lety +1

    What an informative video! Great quality!

  • @laurinbartel640
    @laurinbartel640 Před rokem

    Fascinating

  • @victorg2217
    @victorg2217 Před 2 lety +1

    Super fascinating video. Thank you so much for this great channel.

  • @redparrot9489
    @redparrot9489 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the picture timeline graphics.

  • @jailyneespana3582
    @jailyneespana3582 Před 2 lety

    i was very privileged to take a class as an undergrad at the Museum of Fine Arts Houston and see first hand some of the behind the scenes of conservatorship. So fascinating!

  • @TrevorTrottier
    @TrevorTrottier Před 2 lety +1

    This lady could have a weekly show.

  • @kevinnapier8996
    @kevinnapier8996 Před 2 lety

    #Excellent #Art #Conservation #Education!! #WellDone #Media #Team!!

  • @artecarlaprates
    @artecarlaprates Před 8 měsíci

    Excelente trabalho, parabéns!

  • @ladyliddie7721
    @ladyliddie7721 Před 2 lety +18

    As a kid wanting to go into the art field, I thought "ew conservatorship?" But now I'm like "wow, conservatorship!" Still not sure I could do it, but it's absolutely amazing

  • @maxdon2001
    @maxdon2001 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video!

  • @moritzbruckner837
    @moritzbruckner837 Před 2 lety

    that was super interesting and I heard about stuff I never even knew. thanks! great job!

  • @LesediLoFi
    @LesediLoFi Před 2 lety

    I never knew this existed. Just wow, excellent

  • @paulcook7986
    @paulcook7986 Před 2 lety

    Such patience.

  • @elmohm
    @elmohm Před 2 lety +1

    this was so much fun thank you

  • @chrisarchibald7580
    @chrisarchibald7580 Před 2 lety

    Omg thank you,been having this problem!

  • @purplecleo
    @purplecleo Před 2 lety +2

    Love this person's knowledge for her craft, REALLY neat!

  • @joecool7035
    @joecool7035 Před 2 lety +3

    interesting insight Thanks a lot

  • @ruthjames9278
    @ruthjames9278 Před 2 lety +3

    amazing as always i would love your job

    • @zoefoster1873
      @zoefoster1873 Před 2 lety +1

      Me too! I suspect you have to be good at chemistry to do it, though, which would rule me out!

  • @kmaguire7161
    @kmaguire7161 Před 2 lety

    This was so interesting. I love Reynolds. Mrs. Siddons as the Tragic Muse is my favorite painting.

  • @SirWussiePants
    @SirWussiePants Před 2 lety +2

    I believe Maxfield Parrish intentionally varnished between each paint layer to get that glow that he is so known for. I assume conserving his paintings would also be an ordeal?

  • @germanoscheller5095
    @germanoscheller5095 Před 2 lety

    very cool

  • @neureeves
    @neureeves Před 2 lety +1

    AWESOME ! :)

  • @nemumami
    @nemumami Před 2 lety

    Darn you Reynolds!!

  • @debrascott8775
    @debrascott8775 Před 2 lety +8

    I'd love more of the actual cleaning to go with the talk.

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  Před 2 lety +6

      Hi Debra, the cleaning is still underway but we wanted to show you some of the earlier processes that take place during the conservation of our paintings. If you'd like to see more from our Conservation team, you can have a watch of our playlist here: czcams.com/play/PLvb2y26xK6Y4i1rQVRppfR3mBHcwybGA0.html

  • @The_Butler_Did_It
    @The_Butler_Did_It Před 2 lety +1

    Robert Orme "Look, I've got this really important message to deliver, are you going to be long with the painting?"
    Reynolds "Just a few more days until I've done the preparatory sketches. Now please stand still"
    Robert Orme "I wish they'd hurry up and invent photography"

  • @ankavoskuilen1725
    @ankavoskuilen1725 Před 2 lety

    Please keep us informed!

  • @fj103
    @fj103 Před 2 lety +4

    A nightmare to restore! :)

  • @balmaaaaa
    @balmaaaaa Před 2 lety

    Now im interested about this area, you made feel curius for the restauration and all the surrounds. Congratulations, VERY interesting video ✨

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  Před 2 lety +1

      We're so glad you enjoyed it, Anita! We have a whole playlist about our Conservation team if you'd like to learn more: czcams.com/play/PLvb2y26xK6Y4i1rQVRppfR3mBHcwybGA0.html

    • @balmaaaaa
      @balmaaaaa Před 2 lety

      @@nationalgallery I allready watch everything ♥️ thanks a lot for your work and for share this kind of information.
      I just bought a plane ticket to London so I can see in first person all what I learnd with your videos.
      See you soon!! 😁

  • @MrTsiolkovsky
    @MrTsiolkovsky Před 2 lety +5

    "The River Ohio" that's quite funny as an American.

  • @connorsawyer2418
    @connorsawyer2418 Před 2 lety +1

    Maybe this is a dumb question but could you not polish the varnish to clear up the fogginess instead of using solvents that could potentially dissolve the paint?

  • @59jaguar
    @59jaguar Před 2 lety +1

    Would like to know what a good varnish medium is to put over recently finished oil painting on canvas or linen?
    Do they all darken or yellow with age?

  • @Hey_Jeans
    @Hey_Jeans Před 2 lety

    How amazing.
    To learn how intrigate this job is I'd be so nervous to have that much responsibility

  • @karldelavigne8134
    @karldelavigne8134 Před 2 lety +1

    The real nightmare with Reynolds is when he mixed wax or bitumen into the paint. We had one which had cracked and blackened beyond redemption. It was said that his sitters often aged better than their portraits.

  • @jamie110896
    @jamie110896 Před 2 lety +2

    Captain Orme … I rarely ever hear of anyone that shares my name. Our family don’t know our background. Makes me wonder …

  • @GreenZebra2795
    @GreenZebra2795 Před 2 lety

    being a conservator is my dream job. I dont think i would ever be able to do it, but i can dream lol

  • @TheQueen-ie5nv
    @TheQueen-ie5nv Před 2 lety

    An interesting fact about the context behind this painting: the battle in which Braddock fell and Orme was involved in was also participated by a young George Washington!

  • @jeanneblondewomanstamping9788

    How are conservators protected from the occupational hazard of inhaling solvent?

    • @nationalgallery
      @nationalgallery  Před 2 lety +10

      Hi there, we take various steps to reduce the amount of solvent entering the atmosphere. Keeping our solvents in narrow necked bottles and trapping used swabs in lidded swab pots. We also have very good ambient extraction in the studios which ensures that levels of solvent in the atmosphere don’t get too high. For particularly hazardous solvents we have organic vapour respirators that provide 100% protection for the wearer.

  • @MrGuardianofhades
    @MrGuardianofhades Před 2 lety +1

    One of my more strange subs..nice

  • @michaelomalley423
    @michaelomalley423 Před rokem

    Surprised to see the lack here of solvent ventilation/extraction trunks when conservators use organic solvents to thin or remove synthetic varnishes.

  • @Sirmenonottwo
    @Sirmenonottwo Před 2 lety +1

    It is interesting how a painter was brought along in the campaign. Not something commonly done lately.

  • @foodini
    @foodini Před 2 lety

    How do you get the cross-section? Is that cut from the painting, or is that just a flake of paint that can be re-attached w/o permanent effect?

  • @curtisgoldthorpe6656
    @curtisgoldthorpe6656 Před 2 lety

    my brain just glitched and started repeating. " ryan reynolds paints?" over and over

  • @patstats1
    @patstats1 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m curious. I see the ghost of a shield painted in the lower right corner. Does Xray show another composition underneath?

  • @nickdryad
    @nickdryad Před 2 lety +1

    I have such a lot of trouble cleaning my Reynolds.

  • @16BitSiren
    @16BitSiren Před 2 lety +1

    Wow this would be a stressful job. You do not want to make a mistake with these 😖

  • @EP-yd7vz
    @EP-yd7vz Před 2 lety

    Gainsborough...swoon!

  • @deltasquared7777
    @deltasquared7777 Před 2 lety

    Are you familiar with the use of applying cajuput oil for a reasonable period of time to gently soften old varnish; you can still gently swab off the unwanted layers, layer by layer? This is a drying oil, so when the oil dries the underlying resin glazed paint you choose not to remove by the swab is still preserved.

  • @robertreynolds6725
    @robertreynolds6725 Před 2 lety

    Hmmmm very interesting

  • @user-cp1mr3xi8p
    @user-cp1mr3xi8p Před 2 lety +1

    it's a beautiful language.

  • @ophelias4172
    @ophelias4172 Před 2 lety +1

    As much as I dream about working with artifacts at museums, restoration and conservation work would be a nightmare. It's so fiddly and one wrong move and you have the potential ruined a priceless artifact.