Emperor's Children vs World Eaters, Horus Heresy battle report

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  • čas přidán 23. 09. 2023
  • James from MarchOfWar.co.uk is back in the house so I thought I would run out my Emperor's Children one more time - in this 3000 point Onslaught battle report. Check out MarhOfWar for lots of hobby goodness.
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Komentáře • 81

  • @christopherfreitas6510
    @christopherfreitas6510 Před 10 měsíci +49

    I really wish sometimes that the emperor's children had stayed loyalist. I absolutely love their Phoenix guard unique Terminators

    • @DouchebagMcGee5987
      @DouchebagMcGee5987 Před 10 měsíci +5

      You can play them as loyalist. They actually have a whole loyalist side to them. Saul tarvits is a popular emperors children character that is strictly loyalist. Any legion can play as loyalist or traitor

    • @christopherfreitas6510
      @christopherfreitas6510 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@DouchebagMcGee5987 I really meant for 40k, I feel if they had been loyalist, they'd definitely have their own line in 40k. And seeing those Terminator sculpts in battle would be awesome. Since I don't play heresy I can only imagine :/

    • @The_Captain40k
      @The_Captain40k Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@christopherfreitas6510I think a lot of people wish this was the case. But that’s what makes them the most tragic of all the traitor legions, and one of the most grimdark. Also let’s be honest, a lot of them are right arseholes.

    • @timostegemann9738
      @timostegemann9738 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@christopherfreitas6510These are 3d printed Not gw originals

  • @nickhall4946
    @nickhall4946 Před 10 měsíci +12

    A great game! Always good to see the Emperor's Children out and about! Two small things:
    1) Winter's, for the love of the Imperium USE THE MARU SKARA. You get to put Elite, Fast Attack and/or Troops choices in Outflank and pick the turn they show up on. Your Storm Eagle woes will be a thing of the past!
    2) At 40:22 when the second Contemptor blows up, I think your 40k brain took over for a second. Although the dreadnought was destroyed by the Rampagers, because it was still Initiative Step 4 (i.e. when the dreadnought fights) you should have still got to have his attacks with his fist, then he blows up. Because everything at an initiative step happens simultaneously, unlike regular 40k, he doesn't blow up before getting to swing, so that last Rampager would be dead

  • @sylntghost007
    @sylntghost007 Před 10 měsíci +9

    This was so good. Im really loving your heresy content.

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith3699 Před 10 měsíci +4

    James From March Of War is such a fun and relaxed opponent. 👍

    • @jamesmarch7824
      @jamesmarch7824 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Cheers mate, so chill I can't remember my rules lol.

    • @euansmith3699
      @euansmith3699 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@jamesmarch7824 That's what Winters is there for 😄👍

  • @SNBattleReports
    @SNBattleReports Před 10 měsíci +6

    Great game! I will soon be there for a game 🙌🏽 😊

    • @knoxminis1211
      @knoxminis1211 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Looking forward to that. Maybe he'll tell you about that trophy he won that one time.

  • @shadowofhawk55
    @shadowofhawk55 Před 10 měsíci +2

    That one vet squad be like "No such thing as too many World Eaters,"

  • @Ness_12
    @Ness_12 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Man I love these HH videos, I love seeing these armies

  • @maxtracker2904
    @maxtracker2904 Před 10 měsíci +1

    “If you’d like some Winter’s head…er…if you’d like some dice…email me.” was just hilariously perfect delivery… 😂

  • @myrar8708
    @myrar8708 Před 9 měsíci

    Wow your heresy content is good. Thanks for posting. I like the terrain/mission set up, the army list and narration

  • @Thedagda801
    @Thedagda801 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great stuff! Fabulously narrative!

  • @alfadasfire
    @alfadasfire Před 10 měsíci +6

    Beautiful armies, both of you

  • @insane992
    @insane992 Před 10 měsíci +3

    honestly, best battle reports on yt
    and a horus heresy of all things, heck yeah

  • @bigbigbear58
    @bigbigbear58 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great game to watch! Love that you explain each rule.

  • @TicTankToe30k
    @TicTankToe30k Před 10 měsíci +2

    Im just watching the second episode of this as this went live! nice

  • @TheDiscobeef
    @TheDiscobeef Před 10 měsíci +3

    Fantastic game, thanks for putting it up! I love your narrative approach and the discussion you had about silly lists Vs meta chasing

  • @Buffaluffasaurus
    @Buffaluffasaurus Před 10 měsíci +6

    As always, love your batreps, but your Heresy ones are just different gravy to 40K at the moment. Just a much more cinematic game.
    Especially love seeing James on the channel, and particularly when he’s playing World Eaters.

    • @jamesmarch7824
      @jamesmarch7824 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Cheers mate, always fun to be on with winters.

  • @warpaintjj
    @warpaintjj Před 10 měsíci +1

    Brutally close nail biting game! Brilliant stuff Gents, more 30k please 🙏

  • @darylpage6117
    @darylpage6117 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Great armies and beautifully painted, both. With the EC Veterans and WE 2 no. despoiler units combat was a draw, but the latter have vexillas, doesnt that mean WE won that combat round?

  • @MrKurtank
    @MrKurtank Před 10 měsíci +15

    To the non-playing, lore-ignorant, PC-focused gamer like me, it's always the quality of your opponents and the friendships between that makes the videos. Great content that I always look forward to.

  • @matthewsprinkle7681
    @matthewsprinkle7681 Před 10 měsíci

    Another great battle report. Now i want to start both of those armies.

  • @GreatGenus
    @GreatGenus Před 9 měsíci +1

    Love your heresy videos

  • @saucyben4175
    @saucyben4175 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Love seeing the EC and their flyer, but man you might wanna think about a Master of Signals.

    • @jamesmarch7824
      @jamesmarch7824 Před 10 měsíci

      Don't give him ideas like that, he's mean enough lol

  • @kevinm6392
    @kevinm6392 Před 10 měsíci +2

    A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

  • @nickarmiger2003
    @nickarmiger2003 Před 10 měsíci

    Great game, the storytelling is excellent and those armies look sensational.

  • @JEHermit
    @JEHermit Před 10 měsíci +4

    Nice game guys. However When those 3rd legion vets withdrew from Kharn and the boys, Kharn should have charged the land raider. Rampagers are S4 +1 for blades, +1 for Furious charge and rend on 4+. So the 6+ rends would have had an extra D3. You would have more than likely glanced it to death. Hindsight is always 20/20. :)

  • @Blazetwoe
    @Blazetwoe Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great batrep.

  • @zachrsp9325
    @zachrsp9325 Před 10 měsíci +2

    As far as I was aware, the butchers claws only go off if you gain the World Eater additional attack for charging and doesn't itself give an additional attack, only the extra strength. If however I am wrong, then my army just got a lot more powerful

    • @jakubgodlewski9104
      @jakubgodlewski9104 Před 10 měsíci +1

      You're right, it's just that the wording is absolutely awful on that trait, it says something like "when the models in that unit gain the extra attack from the World Eaters trait, they also get +1 strength"

  • @Blackhound61
    @Blackhound61 Před 10 měsíci

    Great game. As an EC player, you do a lot for the case for Phoenix Terminators - surprisingly killy. Also, I think you've found here you don't need all the Line from PotL - but you really needed the Eagle earlier! Use Maru Skara and have complete control over your reserves, it's such a strength for EC.

  • @christiankoppang8296
    @christiankoppang8296 Před 10 měsíci +13

    The Loyalists will win, even if they lose for every traitor casualty is one less traitor to stand against the emperor and every second is another second for Garro to get to Rogal Dorn

  • @BUGS9000
    @BUGS9000 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Lets goooooo! More ec is awesome
    Edit: Quck rules thing, spite of the legion triggers on units that *dont* have any models with character or chosen warrior.

  • @wheredidugo6739
    @wheredidugo6739 Před 10 měsíci

    I think I need to start playing Heresy. Maybe Alpha legion. Excellent battle report as always.

  • @ameba93
    @ameba93 Před 10 měsíci

    1:31:01 "and there's the sabre tank *SCREAMS* the.. "

  • @user-rm9qs4hz1p
    @user-rm9qs4hz1p Před 9 měsíci

    Awesome battle report, really like the world eaters and thinking of starting them for Horus Heresy!( new to the game). Which mark armour would you say for WE, I hear and read mkV but also a mix :/

  • @SilenRevered
    @SilenRevered Před 10 měsíci +3

    Hey, a couple of things. 1: Feel no pains, cover and shrouded saves do not stack this edition, as they are now all a class of "damage mitigation" save. 2: Jink is gone from the game.

    • @AuthorSurrogate
      @AuthorSurrogate Před 10 měsíci

      I think you’re mistaken about Cover Saves there, FNP and Shrouded don’t stack (because damage mitigation doesn’t stack) but Cover Saves are still saving throws.

  • @tyrxa
    @tyrxa Před 10 měsíci

    great game!

  • @cc0529
    @cc0529 Před 10 měsíci

    Is there a new app or website to watch some of the old content like the narrative battles?

  • @benjohnson997
    @benjohnson997 Před 6 měsíci

    What's the purple paint being used for the Emperors Children?

  • @jameswilloughby4381
    @jameswilloughby4381 Před 9 měsíci

    I really want to know more about some the conversions in WE army they look great

  • @AnthonyJohnson-lz1qg
    @AnthonyJohnson-lz1qg Před 9 měsíci

    Two thumbs up ❤

  • @christiandollendorf1736
    @christiandollendorf1736 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Actually, rampagers are quite capable of opening land raiders. S 6 on the charge with rend 4+ and lots of attacks. Kind of Swiss Army power machetes

  • @ched---
    @ched--- Před 10 měsíci +2

    World Eaters :)

  • @Kierano777
    @Kierano777 Před 10 měsíci

    Now I want to see BA vs WE heresy!

  • @OniFeez
    @OniFeez Před 10 měsíci

    Isn't all a units firing essentially simultaneous? So even if a Storm Eagle fires it's multi melta's 'after' it's vengeance batteries it's all theoretically at the same time? If so, wouldn't it be up to the World Eater player to allocate which was 'first'?

    • @billybloom692
      @billybloom692 Před 3 měsíci

      I came to post this. Wounds should be put into pools and then it’s the controlling players choice on which pool is allocated first.

  • @desertofzin
    @desertofzin Před 10 měsíci +1

    "Avenue of Lies." 😀

  • @armandofierro8433
    @armandofierro8433 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What company makes that scenary ruins ?

    • @wintersSEO
      @wintersSEO  Před 10 měsíci +2

      MarchOfWar.co.uk

    • @jamesmarch7824
      @jamesmarch7824 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Cheers winters,
      Yeah tap me up as winters said.
      I'm currently making new ruins, which will be even cooler

  • @Cozza69
    @Cozza69 Před 7 měsíci

    Started my first 1000 points army of sons of Horus to find that no one in my area played HH 😢

  • @savagex466-qt1io
    @savagex466-qt1io Před 10 měsíci +1

    A million points ? Is that a Joke my friend ? Iv never played Horus Heresy before but I know in Warhammer 40 000 the the average battle is like 1500 to 2000 point games were Im from. Iv never seen the point system for Horus Heresy. If anyone knows please feel free to share ! Thanks so much my friends ! Long Live Winters and love live his gameing friends ! Been watching your channel for a long time.

    • @BUGS9000
      @BUGS9000 Před 10 měsíci +5

      This is probably a 3k point game (standard for heresy). It was a joke about how this is only a very small part of a larger scale battle, with things like titans running around.

  • @thedarkmillennium3788
    @thedarkmillennium3788 Před 10 měsíci

    Can you explain why the WE Praetor gets 10 attacks? As far as I can tell it should be 8. He has 4 as base, +1 for 2 lightning claws (You don't get extra for more than 2 CCW) , then +1 for the charge, +1 For being a WE, +1 for berserker upgrade. As far as I can the Butchers Claws doesn't give everyone an additional attack, it just gives you +1S WHEN you gain a bonus attack for being a WE (i.e so basically on the charge). It's poorly written as I thought it was an extra attack as well, but it's the "," that's saying you only get the +1S when the bonus attack is being used. But I think he should *only* get 8 attacks on the charge

    • @thedarkmillennium3788
      @thedarkmillennium3788 Před 10 měsíci

      Ah I can see someone else mentioned the same thing further down. Though I think that didn't mention the 2 extra attacks for the lightning claws which would only be 1 extra attack

    • @jessepigram1039
      @jessepigram1039 Před 8 měsíci

      Maybe you've already found your answer, but lightning claws provide +2 attacks when paired, rather than the normal +1 for dual wielding

    • @thedarkmillennium3788
      @thedarkmillennium3788 Před 8 měsíci

      @@jessepigram1039 where does it say that?

    • @thedarkmillennium3788
      @thedarkmillennium3788 Před 8 měsíci

      @@jessepigram1039 as far as I can see the rules on page 184 say you only get +1 attack for 2 weapons and more than two weapons gain no additional benefit; you only get one extra attack

    • @jessepigram1039
      @jessepigram1039 Před 8 měsíci

      @@thedarkmillennium3788 page 137 of Liber Astartes (and I assume it's the same page in Liber Hereticus) in the Armoury of the Legiones Astartes. Just above the profiles for the more exotic power weapons, it explains that you get +2 attacks for having two lightning claws instead of the usual +1 for an additional weapon

  • @scholaprogenium5852
    @scholaprogenium5852 Před 10 měsíci

    Please can we get some traitor EC battle reports? The traitor rules are so much more interesting.

  • @TheDarkjulian
    @TheDarkjulian Před 10 měsíci

    ❤❤❤❤

  • @jellydamgood
    @jellydamgood Před 9 měsíci

    Hi Kharn

  • @thisisbullshit6visix
    @thisisbullshit6visix Před 10 měsíci

    gg

  • @rodrigolionelgonzalez194
    @rodrigolionelgonzalez194 Před 10 měsíci

    Man not to be that guy but am i the only one who laughed some where in world eaters turn 4 😅😂

  • @raphie8488
    @raphie8488 Před 9 měsíci

    I noticed some mistakes, Thunder Hammers are -1 to hit and you forgot the Rampager Champ to charge in the Vets.

  • @ukwildlife6593
    @ukwildlife6593 Před 10 měsíci

    Please stop talking about winters head. I’m starting to feel a bit gippy 🤢