Pros and Cons of Security Contracting
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So you want to be a contractor...? I'll say this, it is a mixed bag. Security Contracting overseas, for me anyway, had some positives as well as some pretty heavy negatives.
If you have spent some time in the Military, or even Law Enforcement, in order to have a resume to be considered for Security Contracting, I'd recommend taking a good look at this video.
As an aside, one thing I forgot to mention was camaraderie as a Pro.
While some of the people you end up working with aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, there is a underlying sense of camaraderie that a lot of people miss upon leaving the service. But frankly, it can be found other places...
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Some say he’s still putting wood on the fire to this day
Well played sir...
Bahahahahahahahahahaha
Hah!
😂😂
L O L!!
Pro: *$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$*
Con: It wont buy you air support.
Yep, lots of contracts you have no cover whatsoever if things go sideways.
@@KitBadger
Hypothetically If there was US or UK air support around your position could you request for support?
Garrett B NCR yes, but you’d be unlikely to get it.
@@prophetcitrus9638
Sure, request away 🙄
@@prophetcitrus9638
you don't want that bill if they did. It would clear out the whole teams bank accounts haha.
Just got out of the Marines, too. Going through divorce, questionable spending habits. This sounds perfect for me
kitbadger.com/catharsis-divorce-and-the-range/ Good luck.
Yes
Im 19 and im trying to get in the marines but i gotta take the asvab and im not the best at math any tips to get better?
@@vincent_8817 take some practice tests? I took the asvab so many years ago that I can't really remember what was on it. Ask your recruiter
James Francis Heffron happy veterans day
Pros: Everything is rad
Cons: Everything isn't so rad when being shot at
Honestly what he said in the video really should be shown to all kids. There were huge nuggets of wisdom here, don't let your income dictate your lifestyle spending (save money instead), recognize there isn't a get rich quick without a lot of risk, etc.
GunFundsTV mood
straight up not having a good time lol
@@marcusravaglia2532 How bout now?
Idk some dudes live for that tbh
pro : Good money, suits, Guns
Con: Gets killed by the protagonist
Damned that gray bandana guy...
XD
Pro: gets paid
Con: gets deservedly killed
Work for the protagonist and join his crew. Hope that you’re not the one that dies for dramatic effect to advance the protagonist’s character building.
Unless you are the protagonist
Came here to learn how to keep a fire going.
Was not dissapointed.
Hahaha, pro tip: Don't get rotten wood. I was too lazy after processing that massive limb to go scrounge more. :)
I know its a joke but the title doesnt mention anything about wood aswell as the thumbnail
raheem segowski depends how you read it
@@KitBadger was gonna say, that wood is garbage lol. What i do in a crappy wood situation is just make sure good amounts if air get under the wood, eliminates all the smoke and will make sure that even the Pulpiest wood will burn.
@@on1yone1nchw1de3 ya, unfortunately it was hard to do. My fire kept sinking... :)
Pros: make decent money
Cons: slow decent into bankruptcy, alcoholism and cool M4 selfies
BMW selfies or AR-15 selfies? ...Both.
I call that ascending 😎
Depends on the contract
@@granola661 lmao right?
descent*
I have seen contracts as low as 100 bucks a day. at that point id just enlist again
The Reaper u r high
@@blykoger no u
@@SovietRussia777 no u
GardaWorld was offering me like $210 a day working 12hr shifts 6 days a week. I thought he was pulling a prank on me, why would I go back to Afghanistan for 15% more than I make now while getting to go home every night
AtomicCheesegod 😂🤣
Just felt like I came across a wise time traveler in Red Dead Redemption 2
Now time to rob him and grab that double barrel out.
Justin Macklin Sitting on lake Isabela be like:
I felt like he was on an island in Lake Isabella the whole time
You were mistaken.
😂😂😂
Worked from ‘09-‘13.
Every purchase was measured in “this many work days to pay for it”.
Left home 3 days after our first baby girl was born and came home 3 days before her 3rd month birthday in 2013. Wife said us or contracts and I picked us. You hit the nail on the head with that part. We had the perfect marriage that survived that but not breast cancer. She passed a little over a month ago but praise God for two beautiful daughters from our time on earth. She enjoyed your vids! Keep rocking on man!
I'm so sorry for your loss man. I'm happy you were able to make that decision to not contract, and have that time though.
I prayed for you, man.
bacara18 Wtf is your problem. Of course he isn’t fine
@bacara18 Where in his comment did he mention he's fine? Show a little tact dude, seriously.
God bless you and your daughters.
He looks like a Division 2 character.
No, division characters look like him.
Not a bad gig, beats working at a party store in Detroit getting shot at almost every week for minimum wage.
Pretty much the same thing
@@banneduser9437 yeah bit at least as a contractor you know why you getting shot.
@@mikeanfernee2365 and you earn more money this way.
I'd rather be getting shot at for good money,then getting shot at for minimum wage,came from a pretty shitty neighborhood,so I'd like to take my chances getting paid good being shot at instead of minimum wage
Watching this is like watching Mr. Rogers if he was a survivalist: sitting by a fire next to an ice covered, gently flowing river. Tossing sticks into the fire occasionally whilst giving heartfelt advice about contracting.
Warms my heart.
Like if Mr. Rogers did the Survivor Man thing.
Fucking nailed it.
Mr. Rogers was a survivalist. He was a recon sniper.
@@portee9113 Nope, not even close. But Bob Ross was a Master Sergeant in the Air Force. www.snopes.com/fact-check/fred-rogers-rumors/
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Ross (see summary)
The job sounds a lot like a girl, working as stripper:
1) Money is good 2) can’t do it for long 3) hours are horrible 4) not good for relationships 5) constant need to justify the work 6) you need a good exit strategy because you don’t want to be that old lady scrounging around for dollar bills...
Pretty solid analogy.
Then you start your own club/mercenary operation
As they say, prostitution is the worlds oldest profession, second to that is mercenary work.
...lmfao 100% fact
Also dangerous environment
I can just imagine you giving this talk to your kid and then you'll be like "College? Not so much."
A lot of PMC contractors have their degrees. Lots of time+GI Bill can easily lead to a Bachelors.
"I'm not saying It's the reason for my divorce, but it absolutely contributed to my divorce" -every divorced bro ever 😂
Can someone direct me to the Trader Joe's that's paying $30 an hour?
Taylor Pinkham fr lol
Put in some time and you'll be at $25+
@@KitBadger nah
Just joining the Army can get you to 30 an hour
@@TJackSurvival lol more like 2 or 3 dollars.
Pro: Lots of good food.
Con: No Lamb Sauce.
LOL
Some say Ramsay is still waiting for the LAAAAMMBB SAAAAUUUCEEEE
I'm out
Where's the fucking lamb sauce.
Its all good I prefer Mint Jelly on my lamb personally
I really enjoyed my time as a Contractor. I spent just under 25yrs. I made anywhere from a shitty $200 A day in the beginning (Late 80s) to as much as $2500 a day on a really sketchy Contract for a outta country 8 days. I was more concerned about making it home than any one of my 8 deployments as a RANGER. Once my daughter was born it was time to start getting off the titty! I don't regret doing almost everything I went through on the job!🥋🤼♂️ #RLTW
Judo or wrestling, what do you recomend more ?
@srbce8355 how old are you? I started wrestling in middle school and Judo in my junior year in HS.
@@sugewhitejacoby8654 im 30, used to do BJJ but finded not that practical like they sell themselves to be
"its a trap, you make 6 figures for working half a year..."
wish i could get trapped like that...
The New Centrist end up in a body bag
If you make 6 figures for a few years, you can’t go back. That’s it, plan on retiring at 7 figures.
@@RobertsIslandLivingAdventures that's why you just grab all that money, invest in index funds and dividend yielding stocks, and let that sweet dividend money just flow in every month while the bulk of it grows every year lol.
@@ItstwofourteenToo bad these people are too dumb to invest the money. They buy 100k trucks and 50k gun collections and pay child support instead.
@@petedavidson2087 "these people", who exactly are you talking about? Everybody has their vices, child support? Really?
I was one of the lucky ones. I was married when I joined and made it through my 23 year career with my marriage in tact. When I retired I told my wife that I was thinking about contracting and mentioned how good the money would be to my wife. She said, “good, it will help you pay the divorce attorney”
That was the last time I mentioned it.
Hahaha, well played. :)
Remmy Mills do our wives talk to each other? Because mine said the exact same thing!
So basically it's cheaper to keep her at this point!
I own some older vehicles but prefer my sports car.
Remmy...do the kids look alike lol just saying. or might I say; do the kids look like you :-)
@@sherwaynem5292 😂 just calculated if you were at home 9 months before their birth.
Pro: Money!
Con: Death.
That just sounds like life lol
Andrew K*** is that such a con?
*possible early death
Andrew K*** not that different than the military, only difference is you’re fighting just for money as opposed to money and country
@@asneakychicken322 : That's one of the major pressures so I've been told, as a soldier you can tell yourself you're there for a reason, you have a justification, something to be proud of. As a contractor, especially after something goes wrong, your first thought is usually "Why the hell am I here? Is a load of paper worth this shit?"
This is the most realistic, rationale and grounded advice I have ever heard from a PMC. Good job 👍
Love how this man has a BMO patch on his jacket straight style
Cons --- 2 marriages
not seeing my children
income gained then lost because of the above.
Pros --- Money
weapons
Pretty much...
What do you mean by weapons?
You can't blame her for your mistake of getting married. Very bad choice on your part, you should know better. Men gain nothing from marriage while women gain everything.
good thing I'm single
@@harlan4216 I imagine he's speaking from the standpoint of somewhere like the UK, where firearms are all but outlawed.
Sounds like that guy really lost his head. But at least he died doing what he loved
Well played...
It’s important to give a heads up before you leave the work place
TheReal CloroxBleach wow, that’s cold. I think I’m getting a brain freeze
Speaking for myself and my time as a contractor, this guy is on point with most points. I was not good with my money on the first contract. Couldn't hold a relationship for the life of me. Missed out on holidays, b-days, etc. Finally learned to manage my money before resigning. One thing he didn't mention as a con was whoever was the gov't agency running the contract, I encountered a lot of college degreed idiots with little to no combat experience making stupid decisions. And also being threatened of being fired if you don't do what they say. Can't make decisions on your own and if you do and they don't like it, you're fired. So always walking on eggshells. All in all, the pros were more temporary and the cons more long lasting. But I still have friends doing it and I support them 100%. If it works for them, who am I to say they're wrong. It just didn't work for me to do it long term. Great way tho if you want to get debt free and just work a year or two, contracting is the way to go. Just have to make some sacrifices for that time.
I'm not even in the military but I am glad I watched this. It felt like having a deep serious talk with the older brother I never had.
I really enjoy the B-Mo patch on his arm. There's a man I can trust.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that saw that.
What’s B-Mo
@@itswednesdaymydudes8631 character from Adventure Time
I was just about to say 90% of the guys that come to this video probably have no clue who BMO is and here I find your comment. Proud of you
@chase H. What is your dp from, out of curiosity
Don't know how you ended up in my recc's but damn am I glad for it, that was interesting
Right on man, thanks for watching.
Yeah, same story here, instant sub.
I have been looking into becoming a contractor for a long time, this really helped lol. Thanks
I love how he is so chill
The most dangerous people are usually the most chill in my experience
@@MinerHoboJo I'll definitely keep an eye ouy
Con: more contractors have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan than service members, and you aren't tracked. Just call them mercenaries, or change history books to call mercenaries contractors.
Not the same, unless you’re making up definitions.
Oldest trade in history
contractors are the true american spearhead for wars, after all its easier to deal with the PR of some contractors fucking up and calling in an airstrike on a fishing village than if they were your own grunts.
@@s.sradon9782 Or massacring random Iraqi civilians at a roundabout.
But just rebrand and you're fine!
@@mustardmanmax5733 denial of future soldiers to the enemy's cause.
Not a war crime!!!
You can tell this guy has experience from the way he expresses himself.
I respect his experience, but he just sounds like he's full of himself
Caleb Bolton, how exactly is he supposed to sound? He’s just laying out his experience as it relates to someone getting into the contracting game. Sounds like you’re jealous... You’re not only jealous, you don’t have the balls to step into his shoes. Keep on gaming...
@@calebbolton you just jealous
I get it for $200 a day or 100k each mission
@@martylucas8557 He can sound however he wants, I'm just saying that from my perspective, he sounds condescending and as if he is better than others. I wouldn't like talking to anyone that sounds like that even if they were a president or celebrity. You're right that he's trying to help people who are interested in this field. I'm not jealous and I'm not sure why you think you're qualified to call me jealous, all I said was that I don't really like the way he talks. I don't hate him or resent him lol. And you're right I wouldn't step into his shoes, so what? That has nothing to do with my comment. "Keep on gaming" ??? I don't play video games anymore, I guess just another assumption you had?
Caleb, let’s just put it this way...he’s earned the right to sound however he pleases. When I listen to people that have experience give advice, no matter what the profession, I’m able to get past issues like...he’s a jerk off, asshole or condescending and key in on what he’s trying to convey.
I love your style of video mate, you splitting branches and throwing them into a fire with running water behind you and snow everywhere is extremely calming and chill.
Thanks Peter!
Agreed, and the content format is perfect. This is good shit man.
This is like talking to him sitting on a log next to you. A guy talking to another dude. Like your actually there in some far ways. Good vid
And his voice sounds perfect and soothing, too. Very easy to listen to.
@@KitBadger Agreed with that guy, the fireside chat is really underrated. By the way, on the difference between mercs and contractors, what's the assessment on being a merc? Is it even possible without being seedy as fuck these days? I know people used to slip off to other parts of the world and fight wherever in the 70's.
Things I hated about contracting.
1. Shitty military units. (They will come up with the lamest excuse to get you fired so you have to play nice or don't socialize with them)
2. The pay. (Shitty contracts sucks. Especially if you cannot climb up the contracting ladder. So "NETWORK" b/c it's up to "YOU" if you "WANT" a better job and pay)
3. Brown nosing contractors. (People love drama but be vigilant of what you say and do)
4. The smell of a shit creek, dead animals, and trash. (Get use to it. Also, don't touch anything lying around as a rule of thumb)
5. Your boss/site lead. (I had a very complacent site lead. She [just telling the truth] didn't know how to write up an SOP, let alone believed the Army had to write an SOP for us contractors. I was told by a bearded ninja to simply follow him if shit goes really bad)
Things I loved about contracting.
1. The military background of those you're surrounded with/work alongside. (It was my first time overseas so I ALWAYS asked good rifle/pistol/etc drills/techniques to improve my knowledge and skills. The guys I was with helped me a lot for a first time overseas contracting tour)
2. Range time (Because who loves shooting crates upon crates of ammo)
3. The locals (Stories about the Soviet invasion and Horse soldiers. Playing cricket was interesting but enjoyable)
4. NATO (Met a lot of awesome people from different countries. Still keep in contact with almost everyone I met)
5. The memories (Because not a lot of people will have funny, shitty, and cool memories/stories about living and working in another country)
Why I decided to stop contracting?
Even though contracting has given me one hell of an experience I won't ever forget. You can't replace "TIME" with missing out on family events. Also things "CHANGE" very quickly so what you remember seeing back at home might be different when you come home. Believe me, I'm still single with no kids before and after contracting. You're probably thinking, "WTF is this guy saying/thinking?!" Well it's simple for me. The amount of stupid shit that happens overseas from NDs (negligent discharges), fights, and etc. Yeah... it gets old fast, but apart of me still itches to go back even though I won't.
Honestly this sounds like the last art of the "right of passage" where men went on journeys to find themselves and come back to establish a legacy by making a family.
I never went in the military or anything like this but I am more familiar with former military and former inmates on the thrill of survival and living but struggle with settling down or seeing the world you know change.
Is there a minimum age required or a certain amount of military experience and do you need to specialize in a certain career to work for a private military?
@@GHSTTHERENEGADE rite of passage*
This is the most relaxed explanation of a job description and pro/con I have seen.
In Afghanistan I remember talking to a contractor who was making six figures a year and all he did was fill up CO2 canisters for the paintball guns in the guard towers.......................jealousy level over 9000!!!!!
I remember film maker Michael Moores Fahrenheit 9-11 where a deployed US Army O-3/Captain was bitching about a PMC van driver in a FOB/forward operating base. 🙄. Like the PMC driver is not supposed to make $200000 per year? The Army captain was a big crybaby.
Damn! I'd volunteer for that job any day. lol
That income is taxed at like 50% and you're not home. I make almost as much money now as a police officer as I did after taxes back then. Plus I have a normal life now.
@@MrBadger2736 Did you have military experience prior to joining PC?
@@van-sx1332 yes
This has got to be one of the most brutally honest videos i've ever seen. Sharing the pain couldnt have been easy, but you probably made some folks second think their decisons.
Just hoping to lay the pros/cons out there, help people make a honest choice. :)
@@KitBadger
I second the above. Never heard of you, no offense. ;-)
_______
Blown away by your candor, your gut level honesty, and your realistic and accurate depiction of the job. Sorry for your losses, glad to hear you've found balance in recognizing daily gems, so to speak. Some moments are simply irreplaceable. Sometimes the most important job we have as men is just to be there for the ones who need us most, and there is no paycheck worth trading that kind of peace of mind...
Also, are you trying to give a comeback moment to the word "rad"? I lolled in your general direction...
And hey, thanks for making a video this real on this topic without any pretense or toughguyness.
Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words. And yes, bringing Rad back. :)
@Siward Beorn right on man!
@Siward Beorn Bruh shut up i am cringing.
Pro: money
Con: money
Life really yabba dabba do be like that sometimes. rip
Just invest intelligently
He's right about the rationalizing, the world doesn't stop when you're deployed and nothing is on hold, it's rough to adjust back to normal life after being deployed
Mercenary = Fights in a War. vs. Security Contractor = Protects People/Assets in Dangerous Places
Not the same thing... If you want the Definition, read the Laws of War: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercenary
See the Follow Up Video on Getting Into Security Contracting here: kitbadger.com/security-contracting-what-it-is-and-how-to-get-started/
Semper Fi,I thought about it ,but I am older now and single,still in great shape ,was and 0311,0331,& 0341 ,I was with 3/2,Lima Wpns plt.,What is the age requirements to do this ,and how long do you have to stay
Great video,
i though the possibility of dying would be the first con.. interesting outlook though
I thought the potential for death went without saying. But... :)
@@KitBadger lol it did. but, i was waiting for it like a cliffhanger action scene. may i ask;
do you find balance in nature? in regards to your choices/actions/thoughts? or, was it just for the video?
im not a veteran of any commercialized war, but, ive seen my fair share of madness, all the same.
if it makes it any uneasier, i personally find balance out there.
I've never been a contractor myself, but my older brother started with Blackwater in 04 and stayed with them up until 08 before going to work with triple canopy. I watched him live the high life for many years but unfortunately now after 10 years of Contracting in Iraq I've had to sit here and watch him lose his $140,000 SUV his $300,000 condo in Atlanta due to severe PTSD and alcoholism and at the age of 47 probably won't be with us much longer. It's an absolute shame that there's not some sort of Exit Plan for these contractors who spend 10 years overseas and are expected to come back here and live a civilian life without thinking that every animal carcass or shoe box on the side of the road is an IED. I would literally give anything to have my brother back to normal but unfortunately I guess he's had to see and do too many things that he just can't unsee. Thanks for taking the time to make the video.
I pray your brother has a full recovery
@@why33-00 Thank you!!
It might sound simplistic but if you're truly concerned about losing him, Jesus is the answer for everyone, especially soldiers. He gives infinite purpose to life as He turns a sinner into a saint and a priest ready to share the Good News of eternal life with others. That's eternal reward and infinite meaning to the grunt who used to think he had the most important job in the world protecting others and making the world a better place.
The second is the peace that passeth understanding from the Prince of Peace Himself. This does away with PTSD because there's no longer a fear of death (or anything irrational like a door slamming behind you) because the perfect love of God casts out all fear for fear has to do with judgment and hell, but the saved have no need to worry about this.
I hope that helps.
www.HeHasAnswers.com
There a lot of serious veteran groups that help guys out like your brother. I would seriously recommend getting him with one of them. It might be a second chance for him.
JC Har-v his story is all too common bro
Plus, I know this is just a CZcams page but this was a very frank, open, heartfelt talk. Would expect nothing less from a Marine. Definitely was sitting, kneeling and bending for this one. Thanks
On a serious note, I have so much respect for the "realness" you just brought. I feel like contracting is glorified so much by folks who genuinely have little to no understanding of it. Thanks for bringing a honest light to this and I hope it helps someone moving forward. Looking forward to future content and you got another subscriber out of me today :)
Thanks for watching Harrison.
>Join Military
>Join Contracting
>Stuff as much money as you can manage into a 401k
>Get a civilian job and retire early
Thanks for this, im frugal by nature and contracting is shaping up to be a good move for me.
Staying away from the drugs and alcohol is also probably a good bet.
Nice man, that path will probably serve you quite well. And yes, plenty people get fired over that bullshit.
The 2 Mersk Alabama SEALs found dead, NCIS-USCG case, reportedly had heroin 🤔. They were PMCs.
Dank Dark why would you put it into a taxable retirement account when you can put it into a Roth IRA and receive the money tax free at 59 1/2? You like paying excessive amount of taxes?
DrUgS?
I agree with you! I tell people join the military, then get contract, DOD, or civilian job. Buy a house, put money in Roth Ira & 401/403. Don't try to keep up with the Jones's and have $50,000-$100,000 emergency cash in the bank for a job loss or any thing that comes up. I survived the recession barely and I have lived life as a saver and I also have had $100,000 in car and credit card debt when I thought I was a "Baller". I up righted my ship and now I am fiscally wise with cash, mutual funds, home equity in one of the most expensive real estate markets and no debt (just mortgage). As most people age and make mistakes they will become more responsible with their money.
I cant explain the amount of joy and happiness I felt when seeing my 6 yr son talk with me about his tooth falling out and the tooth-fairy coming to get it and give him something for it. You couldn't be righter in the sense of missing the little things. Thanks for reminding our brothers of the sacrifice between money and true-joy.
No problem Shaun, hopefully it helps people to enter into it with their eyes wide open...
Hey Kit. I’ve been watching some of your content and I got to say that this has been one of your most authentic reflections. I appreciate the honest perspective and most of all your transparency in sharing your experiences. I encourage you to keep up the good work brotha! Also, thanks for your vids on the SW & HB. I ultimately decided on the SW due to availability and price point with a few upgrades. It was your content that aided me in my decision. Again, many thanks for the information you put out!
Thanks for the kind words Eric, and I'm glad I was able to help.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I chose the sedate path of life in the Shire over adventuring. I totally appreciate what you said about not missing time with loved ones. Still, I like to get out and hunt, fish and explore whenever I can. My late dad was a prospector for a mining company in the late 40s, living on brook trout caught by the way, paddling for miles in Labrador and Northern Quebec, not seeing anyone except the odd Indian passing by in a canoe. He later became a teacher and got married. He always missed being outdoors, but he was always there for us. I learned so much about life from him.
Damn. That location is awesome. Something that seems to be common in a lot of your videos. Viewer definitely appreciates.
Thanks Shane, I appreciate that.
@@KitBadger What state do you live in? If you don't mind me asking
@@sk84life311 Idaho.
@@KitBadger Thanks for the reply. That's such a beautiful spot. I've never seen snow and only even seen mountains a few times so that type of beauty is out of my wheelhouse.
@Erik Barnes nice, it is incredible country up there.
Had a buddy who was a contractor...was addicted to war. Came home and died from a heart attack in his 20s training to become a state trooper. I think the stress got to him eventually.
Damn :(
Damn that’s crazy. I’ve never met anyone like that. Would you be able to share a few stories or memories you have of him being a “war addict”? Like why he loved it so much and etc
@Delon Duvenage even for a guy in his 20's though?
@Delon Duvenage haha time to eat better I guess. Thanks for the info
By any chance was he trying to be a state trooper in ny?
The icing on the cake is the iconic THPS soundtrack- Keep it up!!
Haha, thanks man.
Yo Johnny can you tell me what the song is by any chance? I can't figure it out
Thank you Marine, very helpful and informative, I needed to hear this. When you brought up how you and your buds talked about the best way out is going crazy on a hesco, made me laugh out loud. Semper Fi
Right on, thanks for watching Kurt.
Fiscal discipline - number one killer - I am now a commercial diver I see all the same problems as I did as a contractor - but it all becomes such a life style I cant imagine not travelling and not being "isolated" from things - still no wife or kids and will be 50 soon - its always one more job -
great video and so true ---thanks
Yes, lots of parallels to those well paying jobs that take you away. Thanks for watching man.
Bro what battalion? I'm diving in Florida now but I've been considering contracting.
Youre only as good as your last dive.
@@br0ke_billi0naire so true ...lol
@@odinguerard3109 sorry late - i was 25th , Dyncorp, now live in Louisiana ,run commercial dive company
guy looks less than 30 but speaks with the wisdom of a 85 year old, who did not manage to live their life...
'G-Me what wisdom? He just has too much free time to think stuff through.
Literalpervertedloser so thinking to much is bad? Not sure what the point of your comment is...
He sounds like a normal dude in Canada.
the guy looks 40+
Tamarick Roberts who said it was bad? Certainty not me.
Dude! I bet you an awesome human being as a friend, a mentor and much more. I can feel it through your voice and story! First time watch your video and gotta subscribe and follow! Keep up the good work and hope you the best sir!
Very accurate information.... And yes the money gets most people. Discipline and exit strategy is key!
Cons: possibility of being strung up from a bridge
looks like some bandit hasn't learned the ways of the sneaki breeki yet.
Anthony G he’s referencing Fallujah.
Liam Alsa big fuckin wooooosh
@@TheRealRusDaddy I also thought he was talking about Fallujah so what went over my head?
LtDanTheMan07 I knew those guys
As a current security contractor, I agree with everything you said. I want to quit, but the money is just too good. I am constantly tired, angry, and hate my life. I keep telling myself "I'll quit soon. This will be my last job" and it never comes. The money just provides so much for my family and opportunities for them. I had an exit plan initially after 4 years, and then I was going to go back to school to study and do something else... I'm into my 10th year now as a security contractor, and it is just all about the money. It keeps luring me back. This is my sad, pathetic existence. I'll probably be that guy in his 50s that is still doing this line of work because I don't know any other way. I'd say avoid security contract work if you can... AT ALL COSTS!
No debt is worth your life, just remember you can't go to jail for debt, and all debt is off your credit report after 7 years.
The money will keep luring you back since you don't create a plan for your money to earn money for you. Your luck will run out my guy. You can't just freestyle your way to a steady life and good health if you're doing a job like that.
When's the last time you sat down with a financial advisor or someone who has wealth and knows about investments? You're good with a gun, but you're nit good with money. The same way somebody pays you to be a gunfighter, you need to pay someone to be your financial advisor. Sit down with them and figure out investment strategies that will yield results, so that you don't have to depend on risking your life for money. Because if like you said the money is good doing contracting work, you should be able to create a strong and diverse investment portfolio that ranges from real estate, stocks, forex, treasury bonds, crypto, and small businesses.
Working for money is played out. Make your money work for you instead.
@@PermanentHigh Is forex a legitimate way to make money, it has always seemed like a scam to me?
I think Realestate is a major investment, and best way to invest. But will also take the most attention, hiring/ firing property managers, evicting tenants, and accounting for vacancy, and repairs.
I'm a nurse, and got my realtor license to invest, and going to enlist in the air force reserves, and the 15k bonus I'm going to get half, and all of that is going to go to a quadplex or multi family unit, and rent it out, down payment with FHA loan 3.5%, or 5% conventional loan.
How do I do this contracting?
How much do you typically make per month?
7 months after this came out, it showed up in my feed today. Well hello again, old friend.
Welcome to the party buddy.
Amazing advice about work, relationships, and parenting. Thanks for taking the time to share the lessons you've learned. Really appreciate your vulnerability and wisdom in this video.
No problem, thanks for watching Aaron.
“Rad” first word to learn when becoming a contractor
#truth
This guy is the Mr. Rogers of the Marine Corps and security contracting. Really nonchalant and passive... until shit gets real then I bet he could do some damage. Lol!
Blake Ranew no he wasn’t
timmybmn how do I find those videos
@@dingusmcgringle9741 It's warranted confidence, people who can't back up their words talk the loudest because they cant actually prove themselves, so they talk big. Guys like this don't need to talk big.
"golden handcuffs man" - that hit deep
It is a trap...
Same as oil rigs, mining logging camps really, good n bad..... can get set up very well in relativley short order if disciplined
Thankyou for your service i appreciate it brother
The Important stuff is not planned . . . Words of profound Wisdom Sir.
Observations Elias, thank you for watching. :)
Man I'm turning 29 this year. I wish I knew about this 10 years ago when I was single for 7 damn years.... ugh
packlesswolf1 the squidward picture makes the comment that much better😂
#Ihaveagirlfriend
CanadianCCP yea but you live in shit hole canada
@Kyle Reyes good luck for your career in contracting.
Btw bro that wanting action again never goes away... im telling you ,, war is some kinda drug... when your there you want out but when your out you want back in...
Excellent perspective and absolutely accurate. This same advice is definitely applicable to contract firefighters, from my experience.
Good information brother. Way to expand on the pros and cons. I like the blunt legitimate reasons on why to and why not go into contracting. A complete no bullshit assessment from A to Z.
Thanks Drew, just trying to get some information out there.
Man's looking like an LL. Bean model giving me real advice. I'm taking notes.
Im dead
Hahaha
Think this is the first open and honest talk on the subject I've seen, usually it's rather shrouded in mystery to say the least.
People like to keep it vague, let people think it is cooler than it is. :)
Really straight to the point with nothing flashy. Great video, I like your character
Thanks Eric.
My dude really talking about contracting and hardships with a Bimo patch.
That’s awesome.
Can we have an Advice by the Campfire with Ivan series? None of this video applied to me and I watched the whole thing. The only thing that would have made it better is if you’d started out wearing a plate carrier, entered frame left, took it off and slung it while switching out for the puffy coat, changed out of your gaiters and boots and into some Lems, and played a punk cover of Mr. Rogers Neighborhood as an intro.
Hahaha, I'll see what I can do Drew. :)
Now that would be rad.
This! At least one video please and thank you
Yes! Mr. Loomis’ neighborhood.
It will be like a little gun story telling ASMR! Roll it.
Pro: 💰
Con: 💀
Basically
@@EmilSosnin Basically Life
😂
Pro: you go to exotic countries and meet new people. Con: most of those people would prefer if you were dead
😭
Can I just say how beautiful the shot is and how good he looks in it the whole ambiance is beautiful.man I could bleed out to death there
Facts.
I spent 10 years in. Two companies.
“One more deployment.”
Pro: Visited countries during leave I never would have otherwise. Built a couple friendships for life.
Single with no obligations. When keeping it real goes wrong.
Lots of paths forward...
living the life..
Pro: Money
Con: Money....
Quality problems.
gillecroisd 92 You're misunderstanding. First world money is "clean money". Security force money in foreign countries is usually "dirty" money. "Blood money". You may have to launder your own income, or learn your study jewelry....(dude in the video just mentioned gems)
More money more problems I guess.
Thanks for this. I was amazed how much this hit close to home for me. Thanks
Thanks man... I had absolutely no desire to do contracting at all, but I enjoyed listening to you... this is applicable to life in general.
Right on James, glad to share it.
The algorithm actually worked. this is awesome
Right on man, thanks for watching.
>security contractor
>divorced
shocking
Infantry
Deployements
Divorce
- Ex wife
- her mother
- sign me up to die anywhere, for disproportionate amount of money/risk
@@simonpharand7427 **sigh**
-toaster
-full tub
shocking
This dudes attitude is always just cool and smooth
I didn't expect to find the coziest video on the internet here. Subbed.
Thanks for subscribing. :)
🤣🤣🤣all of a sudden it got real she was in Afghanistan
True story. :)
I avoided PMC stuff do to the terrorists, IEDs, violent attacks. It never really quited down or got less active. SW Asia, Iraq Green Zone.
I snort-laughed for a solid 30 seconds after that short story
I mean, pretty much post 2015 when convoys on land were getting more and more sparce, a lot of support and guard types get more and more removed from action (Not counting rockets or morters), so when actual stuff happens, it can hit harder than some realize
damn... this man has a soothing Grandpa around the fire camp vibe...🔥🔥🔥
Teejay Kush damn, you got that comment copy vibe going on. Be original douche bag
But I'm sure even in contracting, just like the military, you got that old salty grunt from [affiliation redacted] that's either the best there is at what he/she does, seen too much and can't retire, waiting to die because they don't give a fuck, or all of the above.
Yes I said he/she. May hardly ever be seen on the fictional entertainment scenes, but pretty sure women are still in the game just because.
America may discriminate, but a bullet from an enemy weapon does not.
Love the honey badger chilling by the firewood
these are actually very respectable arguments!
Very Good one, thanks for sharing. I will just add my experience for European contractors hope you don't mind. So I was about to start this lifestyle 7 8 years ago, when I finished my time with the French paratroopers. I started Digging up info, I then have smelled the bullcrap behind this business, and renounced it. First of all, For European citizens and military personnel it's even harder to get acess to contracts, let alone the fact that 90% of contracts are from the US/UK contracting bodies and requiring US/UK citizens for the most. Secondly, whoever is able to provide you with an accessible contract for your citizenship situation, you'll get the shittiest Jobs ever, and least paid ones with the poorest support. It depends on the company of course but (I've been asked to bring my own weapons and gears) which is totally impossible doing so legally in the EU. Or else you will have to go and deal with Russians and Eastern Europeans, which it's not that nice at all if you are not slavic, polish Ukrainian or Russian yourself. and it's not that well paid, barely around 100 dollars a day, and it's un enjoyable at all because of the stupidity you need to deal with. Thirdly, even if you get a uk/us contract, before beginning anything they will require you a (superhero) type of curriculum... with ages of experience, a lot of war tours, and God knows what else. and if you don't have it, then you'll probably need to acces their own qualification courses, ending up to spend more than 20k in euros, just for starting the whole crap, plus, additional training money.... Basically, you're a slave, for a freaking corporation with kids able to pull out contracts, for their money making machine, that you wash and produce with your efforts and hard labour. You ending up giving up your life and money for the passion you have for war and their pockets. I said to myself Better not get involved, or if money and connection can allow it, start your own business in the sector. Don't waste time on being a freaking donkey for them. You're not in the military, there are no values and comradeship. It's just about profit and loss. Peace brothers
solid advice
Hard learned. :)
Great advice and good point about there always being another deployment. Like the BMO patch!
I like how the first video got only 310k views and this one sits at over a million, funny. Also that backdrop looks so unreal, so peaceful, you seem to find the best places to record. Neat little 3 part series.
Mandatory content for those thinking about the contracting lifestyle... Absolutely spot on Ivan!!!
Thanks man.
If you fellas are looking to come back to civilization, get a lineman apprenticeship. Similar social dynamics, stay in shape, make 100-200k per year and keep you body parts where they belong. Admittedly the divorce rate isn't that much better if you're working out of town - an observation not an experience.
From an ex- combat engineer
Planning on using some of my post 9 11 to go to northwest lineman college for the 15 week program. In your opinion is that a worthwhile Investment or should I skip it and apply for an apprenticeship with a local utility? Thanks in advance.
@@jfeeble I'm up in British Columbia, But I did do a similar 8 week program up here before applying for jobs. I have no regrets taking it. It helps get your foot in the door, and a step up on other applicants. I'd still apply at local utilities in the meantime. If you do go to the college first, don't get offended when guys tell you to do things differently in the field. Oh, and get your air brakes and commercial drivers license. Having my class 1 got me my first job, no interview.
Good luck!
@@Levicard088 Many thanks, you confirmed a few rumors/suspicions.
@@jfeeble skip the lineman college and just do the union apprenticeship. Or go Air Guard and go 3E0X1 then go to non-union or union contractor.
no salary compensates for the satisfaction of a good manhunt.
LOL winchester on a belt-fed into a hesco wall... had my in tears laughing!
You won't be invited back. :)
I have to ask what that all means?
@@frostysmoke37 shooting all available ammunition until you are out.
@@KitBadger ah ok, that's what I thought, thanks
Wow thank you very much!! I have been wondering about these and this is amazingly helpful.
Right on, glad it was helpful.
This video was really well done and honest. I experienced the same thing working on the oil fields doing shift work. Divorce rate for long term employees was 80-90%, the money was all spent trying to catch up on the everyday life that I missed, and the savings at the end was around 15% of what I could have saved.
You have to miss birthdays, anniversaries, and hardest were the funerals that you can't attend for friends and family that you truly love. It's not all bad, but my advice would be to hire a financial adviser and lock down a rock solid financial plan so you can do high paying shift work for a couple years and then walk away having rental properties or something that you can live off of and have long term stability.
You ain’t making $250/day at Trader Joe’s man
Kaleb Booher minimum wage payment after taxes... You get what? $80 for 8 hours
Okay, but I know people making $25 an hour there. So call it $200 a day? Either way, don't miss the forest for the trees buddy. :)
@@KitBadger great video.. I learned a lot watching it. Although $200 a day at an hourly stateside job is usually close to $125 after taxes. My question is are there pros to the way overseas contracting income is taxed?
That stateside job isn’t a 1099 and usually has benefits though. 🤷♂️
@@KitBadger Im asking sincerely because I dont know. How heavily is the contracting money taxed? Do you know if it has been effected since changes in the tax code?
Thanks for the video! Im considering doing this when i get out myself!
That was a cool experience! , thank you for sharing