1971 Hemi Cuda vs 1963 Plymouth Savoy Max Wedge | FAST drag race
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- 1971 Plymouth HEMI Cuda drag racing 1963 Plymouth Savoy Max Wedge. factory appearing stock tire (FAST) drag race. F.A.S.T.
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“ That Plymouth had a Hemi with a Torque Flite!” @ That was the first line in the movie “Two Lane Blacktop”, spoken by actor/musician James Taylor.
I have never seen a 10 second car look slow until that 1971 Cuda showed up... Holy Christ....
You took the words right off my keyboard.
And the ‘Cuda, while still a top dog is not the quickest nor the fastest car in F.A.ST.
@@danmyers9372 I saw a guy who has a COPO that is pretty quick. I like the FAST class. I'm just impressed to death watching these guys running those numbers on "old tech". Pretty amazing cars really haven't gotten much faster (V8-wise) over the years when you take boosted applications out of the equation.
Actually the max wedge car is capable of low 10s but it still would not have beat the cuda
@@TheDatadrew there's some NEW TECH in there too , digital ignition , 2 step , traction control ( I believe), vacuum pumps ...
Holy shit, that 'Cuda is a monster! If you watch shows like Engine Masters, you learn pretty quickly that changing just a few parts that seem minor can add up to huge numbers. Whoever built the Hemi in that 'Cuda knows what they're doing.
9.63 on stock tires is Insane! Love it! And love the Max Wedge!
That Cuda accelerates like a rocket sled, likely a new experience for the Savoy owner, to be looking at someone’s tail lights.
Nope, he is used to it. They are both regular participants in F.A.ST. racing. Dudek’s ‘Cuda is one of the faster (not the fastest) cars in F.A.S.T.
@@danmyers9372 Sad but true, I think the only way for a Hemi to beat the L88 'vette is to put a hemi in a vette ...
Excellent matchup. If the Savoy had some bigger meats on the back it would of been a closer race but damn that Hemi Cuda was greased lightning!
The tires wouldn't have helped , the Hemi is making a lot more HP than the max wedge. I have a set of hemi heads that flow 375cfm with not a lot of work done to them from as they were delivered on my circa 2005 MP crte hemi 426. I don't think it's posible to get close to that on a max effort set of stock part number iron max wedge heads.
Just the sound of it gave me a hardtop!😂😂😂
I was fortunate enough to grow up in the era of muscle cars and rock and roll. The other day a young dude pulled up to me at a stop light, he was playing rap music and his car sounded like a lawnmower with a bad muffler bearing 😅. I felt sorry for him !
Except we're also living in the era of Biden gas prices.
@@charlesvan13 --- whole different world. Cars have gone electronic fuel injection, turbocharging and even smaller displacements to compensate for junk-ethanol fuel to help the environment.
All businesses have lost profits during the pandemic and are rebuilding now by increased prices.
No difference if a politician is in office or a con man.
@@joeyramirez6355
Not sure what your point is.
The economy sucks now that Biden is in, especially the price of energy, such as petrol. Because Biden is against the domestic oil industry. We were energy exporter 2 years ago. But he cut production. And begging the Saudis sure worked out well.
@@joeyramirez6355 except, that “con man” gave everyone a better life! Rather have a business man that got stuff done, then a politician who,lies about college debt relief only to have it shot down after the election, he was Buying Votes. And leftists losers bought into it. Only for the courts to say NOPE!
Rather have cheap gas and mean tweets then a old decrepit liar.
@@joeyramirez6355 We have both a politician and a con man in the house now lol .
Hard for me to believe how hard that Cuda left on that size tire and then still held traction with the power it was putting down at the bottom end of the track. Calculated from ET and speed it's putting out over 800 hp. That thing is insanely fast. The Savoy was fast too but well you go tweaking on a Hemi it's gonna be hard to beat even if it's heavier. Thanks for the vid it was fun to watch. I prefer the other class though. Seems it would be a little more fair.
The F.A.S.T. series was created by Dave Dudek, the owner and driver of the ‘Cuda. It was created for racers who wanted to see just how fast they could make factory appearing classic muscle cars go on stock tires. Yes, they run on factory stock bias ply tires.
@@danmyers9372 Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware of that being the dude. He's definitely getting a lot out of it for sure. As I said very impressive for that kind of tire.
@@danmyers9372 I recall seeing a video about the tires being fairly prepped, in spite of their 'stock' look. I forgot the name of the channel, but it's based around a guy racing a '69 ZL1 Camaro in this class, and his dad races a '69 L88 Corvette in the same class. I recall one episode where he explained how the tires are prepped. Very interesting class of racing compared to all the highly prepped, obviously modified classes of racing (e.g. big fat wheels and tires out back with skinny racing wheels and tires up front). I would love to see a series of FAST class racing over a week like the drag weeks. Driving xxxx miles from city to city and racing in the day.
@@culcune - That would be Horsepower Depot CZcams. Yeah, they shave all the tread off and then go several longer smoky burnouts to soften the sidewalls.
@@danmyers9372 Yes! Crazy how fast they go in the quarter while looking like they rolled off the showroom that morning!!
Wow, that is an absolutely beautiful Cuda, and with that Hemi it is a dream come true.
Thanks for doing a FAST matchup, Zebra.
HOLY DEAR LORD THE SOUND!!! That damn Cuda arrived before it even &@$!? Left!! Missed you C&Z! Glad you are still here
Beautiful cars - both very quick and impressive! Both are winners in my book!
The 71 Cuda definitely was no stock no way
That cuda got out there fast! I wonder what the 330 was? The outward appearance of these cars did not prepare me for those times. That was a cool surprise. I was pullin for the savoy.
I'd like to see the 60' and the 330' times. That sucker looked like it was shot out of a cannon.
@@danmoore6107 - The top dogs in the F.A.S.T. series like this car run mid 1.40’s in the 60’. On a stock bias ply tire.
Creepin' Jebus!
I expected both of these cars to get into the 10s. I did not expect that 'Cuda to break into the 9s. This was the best C&Z race yet.
@@danmyers9372 how do they do it? Traction control somehow?
Nice Chrysler matchup. That cuda was serious 🤪
Ditto… Holy Cannoli’s that Cuda exploded off the line! Made the fast Wedge look slow in comparison…wow!
On paper I was certain that max wedge was going to win. Both those motors had way underrated horsepower numbers by Chrysler and the wedge car had the weight advantage. But clearly, both took advantage of the F.A.S.T. rules. The way that ‘Cuda was going down the track was jaw droppingly fast. Perfect launch with what has to be 800hp or so all on stock sized tires. Amazing.
That was a gorgeous launch!
Is the Cuda a Dave Dudek built car ?
Hemi's The Ticket !!! 68 Hemi Dart my personal favorite !!!
Astonishing Hemi Cuda.... The best drag car of Cars&Zebras !!!👍🏻
Both cars are absolutely stunning cars, and I’d take either one but man that cud’s was moving. Thanks for sharing with us.
I'm a GM guy, but that was a pretty cool race, I have to admit.
You should then be happy to know that both ends of the F.A.ST. record we’re just recently reset by a C2 mid year 427 Corvette at 9.31 @ 147.
Not a midyear, a C3 L88.
THAT CUDA HAS A TURBO ON IT...WHAT A CHEAP SHOT!!!!
YOU MIGHT AS WELL THROW A BOTTLE IN IT,TOO...
OLD SCHOOL RULES!!!!
@@davethompson8283 There is no turbo on that car. It has had a lot of work done to it but it is still naturally aspirated.
@@davethompson8283 Just NO. It's a Stroker, So Is The L88 Vette.🤫
My wife just said,”That cuda finished faster than you!”
She never told me that.
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I tell ya what: them boys at Horse Power Depot ( father, mother, 2 sons, and grandfather, a racing family ) are piloting their classic Corvettes in the same class to new record breaking ET's. One of their Vettes just broke multiple records, including a 9.31 @ 148 mph. That's 2 mph away from a mandatory parachute.
Yuppers, but L88s weren't as Big as that Motor Is.🤫
@@douglascooper1987 Well no shit Shirley. This is the FAST class. ALL of the engines running in this class have been bored WAY over, and HEAVILY modified. ( NO headers allowed though. ) Anyone attempting to compete in this FAST class who is running "factory stock/original bore size" WILL get left in the dust. Ya don't think the Mopar's running in this FAST class aren't punched way over too? You bet your ass they are. I can't remember of it's the Hemi Cuda in this video, or another black one just like it that also runs in this class, is making around 1,200 HP. And I can assure you, to be normally aspirated, NO "426 cu in" motor is gonna make 1,200 HP and run 9 sec 1/4 mile passes. Besides, there's a whole other class that IS factory stock, and it appears that's where you need to be.........because you're making NO point whatsoever here in this FAST class.
@@howabouthetruth2157 🖕🖕Douchebag I Know that !! But you people make out Like the L88 Cars are Better than Sliced Bread!! My Father had a YENKO CHEVELLE That had one ,It Was Shit! Compared to His Split Bumper Camaro! BTW Dudek's Cuda makes about 1000hp,and it's not a 426, but L88s weren't 540cu in. either.🤷
@@douglascooper1987 Hey everyone, get a load of this punk running his mouth, making NO point whatsoever in this FAST class. "You people".........I DIDN'T EVEN UTTER THE TERM "L88" IN MY COMMENT, YOU DID, JACK ASS. Lastly, what's with all of you punks who can't even message grown ass men without using your "cute little cartoons" ( "imoji's" ) like some sissy ass 8 yr old girl. I know why: You little punks literally think your little "imoji's" are some kind of "magic weapon".........OR ELSE YOU WOULDN'T BE USING THEM IN EVERY STUPID COMMENT/RESPONSE YOU POST. Grow the fuck up and stop making a total pest of yourself by trying to make POINTLESS arguments. Get lost kid. Go ask your single mother who the hell your daddy is. That should keep the two of ya thoroughly busy & confused FOR WEEKS.
@@howabouthetruth2157 Hey Dickhead I'm 56 and Grew Up at Dragstrips All in Division 2 while you were Still Whacking in you Mom's Basement. You sound like you Probably Think A Civic Sedan is a HotRod Too! FukU PissAnt! Do Some Real At The Track Research And Quit Embarrassing Yourself!! As forHorsepower Depot, he's the Guy that Answered Me when I asked about the motor in the Vette, Nice People You Should Try and More Like Him ,Cause You Sound like a Fourth Grader! As for my Daddy, I know who he was,and Unlike You Apparently, don't Come From the Shallow End Of The Gene Pool. And BTW You might want to Invest in Spell check, Cause Emoji is Spelled With An E, and I do it Just For Little Morons Such As YourSelf.🙋 🖕🖕See there's the Stereo Version.
damn they both hooked the hell up. believe the Plymouth probably knew what he was up against to jump. Bet he doesn't have to do that very often
Man, I sure was lucky to be pooping when I got this notification of a premier episode. One of the first to view and also taking a great poop that feels fantastic
The fuq?
Grow up dude.
Holy crap. Both cars are AMAZING! Thanks brother!!
I literally said way out loud "holy f@ck" when I seen that cuda rocket launch off the line! Jeez 9.6!🤯😲
Another thing with the Max Wedge cars ; They told you in the owners manual to limit full throttle accelleration runs to 15 seconds - not because the car was only intended for drag racing, but because doing so would pump so much oil to the top end that you risked sucking the oil pan dry - the solution was to fit an aftermarket higher capacity pan.
And the Sticker on the Inside of the Glovebox Stating, "5 year/50000 mile warranty does not apply to this Vehicle" Too.🤷
I'm sure it now has a modern high capacity oil pan and high volume pump
Goodday C & Z,
Talk about drive it like you stole it, that Cuda is freaking awesome & freaking quick.
That Savoy isn't a slouch either, the difference in a 1 sec is astronomical.
I wish there was finish line clip that would be awesome.
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Nice duel.
Wow I've never heard of a Plymouth Savoy pretty awesome 10s wow. Hemi Cuda simply incredible beautiful car 9s to fast love it. Great video thank you
thats because your young! Max Wedge Savoys and Dodge Cornets were the kings of super stock racing in the early and mid 60’s.
@@kimmorrison9169 don't forget about Grumpy Jenkins and Ernie Beswick. The Impala's, Catalina's and Cuda's were bettering each other every weekend back then. For me reading about early SS racing was very exciting. I was just born a decade to late.
Now that was very impressive. When the Demon came out Mopar was bragging about the fact they got one running 9:65@142 m.p.h. I believe. That ‘71 Cuda did a great job with a 3 speed torqueflite tranny. I’m sure it had a magic wand waved over it but it’s still quick.
Wow!!..call me crazy but I'd rather have the max wedge car!!
The 426 Max wedge with the dual quads on the cross ram manifold looks so sick that’s my favorite motor of all time
OMFG that 'cuda took off like a rocket! Thank you so much for creating these videos, and a special thanks to the owners and drivers.
Hat’s off to the track prep crew, super sticky. Great vid!
That Belvedere Savoy , is one badass Maxie running 10.79 @129 🏁😍
holy fuck, Hemi Cuda ftw
these cars are absolutely insane!! that Cuda has me feeling all kinds of things
That thing launched !! Impressive!! I was honestly thinking mid 12’s at best
Oh, Cars and Zebras! What a race!❤🔥Absolutely stunning!👌 I love the Max Wedge powered Plymouths but that '71 Hemi Fish is just a weapon of mass destruction💪💪💪 I have to add the video to my playlist🙏
The 'cuda looks just like the one my cousin had back in the day.
He traded it in for an AMC Matador -- the big fugly boxy one. Married life and all that.
Oh man! he must be kicking himself every day for that move!😂
Wow...just wow. That 'Cuda is insane!
Sweet mother of Tom Hoover! I was not expecting that!
I would love to know the rpm that hemi was being shifted at. No redline on the tach, but it sounded like it was using most of it.
I thought the same thing!
He revved it to the moon!!!
A heavy second and 15 mph faster😳…..I didn’t expect that. Thanks for ❤️sharing the video post. Best of luck 🍀to you and your family.
9s on pretty much street width tires. They're not even 10.5's. Same for that Max Wedge. Those definitely look like street tires. Impressive.
They are factory stock sized (for the car) bias ply street tires. They shave the tread completed off and then do a series of long burnouts to soften the sidewalls.
@@danmyers9372 yep. I would laugh seeing the factory bias ply tires on big block mopars and Ford's . What are those going to do? They looked like spare donuts hahaha
Aweswome race, but wish they both would have been stock. 13.5 to 1 stock compression ratio is insane!
The Hemi in the ‘Cuda is stroked to well over 500ci and probably has a static CR in the area of 15:1.
I think the black one is gonna win.
Heeeeyyy another Dustin! I went with the Max Wedge too lol
@@ProstWithTheMostBabe lol me too.
The sound is amazing!
Damn dude that Cuda came out fast!!!
Thanks C&Z
Cuda said " 13.5:1 ?! Hold my beer..😅 Hot damn on Rails!
The best damn channel on CZcams.
That cuda is BADASS. And looks just like mine 😁
I would take either one! Both so beautiful. Great race!
Hey cars and zebras I love watching your channel. Can you please tell your viewers that are watching your channel that these cars are not stock. They don't seem to read the descriptions in your box nor are they listening to what you are saying. Maybe you can do a video just explaining what the classes are because alot of your viewers don't seem to get what the classes are really about
What a race fantastic
Wow. That was awesome
Only 298 max wedge plymouths in 1963 ... now I'm crying , I owned one in the mid 80's with a 440 in it, bought it for 250 , sold it for 850 , it still had the factory battery mat and cables for the trunk mounted battery in it ... ugh
That was quick!
Holy Couches.....what a beast!
He has done some serious work on his engine. He is running pretty much what a Dodge Demon runs, without a huge supercharger.
The Cages gave the -10 second capability. Mandatory if you break 10 second 1/4 mile
Most of the cars have been running without NHRA legal cages since the inception of the class many years ago. They race at several NHRA tracks and just this year the NHRA came down on them and forced them to put in certified cages.
Before you comment read rules for F.A.S.T
Boy, that was cool. I think that race would have turned out differently with factory stock cars...
Was that cuda’ running slicks? That thing Boogies!!!👍
Nope, stock bias ply street tires.
Sure was. Thought they were bias ply until I looked closer. Slicks disguised as Goodyear Polyglas tires.
@@jimbom347 yeah I thought it had to be, good observation
Thanx for giving the curb weight and not weight with driver👍
Wow, that Cuda just hooked and flew!
God dam that hemi is running good 👍
The 'Cuda had serious traction at the start, one heck of a good run! 😮
My first car was a 63 Savoy, did not start with a big v8, she was rocking a one barrel slant six with a 3 on the tree...
Yeah those LOOK like regular Goodyear Polyglas but they are made with softer sidewalls and a lot softer tread compound. There is a lot of time and money invested in ignition timing timers to get the power to the ground and not blow the tires off. That's the biggest part of it, along with a lot of shock absorber experience.
Had to pause. I thought for sure max wedge would kill the Cuda. A 9.63 et obviously Hemi not stock. Them max wedge absolutely ruled the drag strips in the 60"s!
That HAD to be Dave Dudek in the hemi cuda!!!!
nice blue duster 👀
We all know it takes a mopar to catch a mopar
I think the mopar is going to win here? What are the odds
Crapars
@@TopG800 If there is a mopar, it's always a win.
@@Welcometofacsistube nice maths slowpars lose :)
Except for that red Corvette that is running 9.30s and the red Camaro.
Except that the class is actually dominated by Chevys.
Big fan of the Max Wedge 426 and the dual cross ram 413 solid flat tap cammed engines. They're loud & rock & roll on the road coarse. Could care less about the drag racing thing.
Cuda broke the sound barrier 😳
Hemi Heads can't beat em!
I had a 1971 Barracuda, 318/slap stik. Wrecked in a rain storm.
very impressive
Ooo, this is gonna be good…
Ah yes, 13 1/2 to 1! Back when Sunoco offered 106 octane high test.
That Hemi screamed like a formula 1 😅
I miss my 1970 barracuda that I had. Back in 1975 when I was only 20 years old.
Definitely some additional power on the Cuda
I love Plymouth Hemi Cuda
Me thinks the Cuda had some work done I figured with the cage hiding in there it was gonna have so go go power
I want that ‘Cuda !!!
Holy crap, 9.60's with a 3700+ curb weight!!!! That's why the Hemi replaced the Max Wedge.
No...that hemi is far from stock. Its a ringer. Its making twice the power its supposed to. The 71 auto got in the low 13 seconds..maybe high 12's stock
@@netrioter Yeah, F.A.S.T. cars are all far from stock. The Max Wedge was far from stock. But the Hemi makes more power. Look up the F.A.S.T. rules even though it is partially explained in the video.
The Hemi that replaced the wedge was in fact a Race Hemi. The street Hemi like in that Cuda didn’t come out until ‘66, Those Race Hemis used a cross ram like on the wedge. The 413’s were used ‘62-‘63, and the 426 ‘63-‘64. When that race Hemi hit in ‘65 it was game over. Although they were not really sold in street cars tho. Not sure of the 426 wedge but the Maxie 413 had an 11.5:1 for 415 HP and a 13.5:1 good for 420 HP.
I hope to someday afford one of those
WOWWWW 426 HEMI
Dang!!!
Fastest cars I've seen on the channel lol
Holy chit, mang!
I’d wager that cuda has had some internals massaged . Sound like it revved up fast way pass factory suggested red line . And why not !
Wow that Cuda would smoke a modern hellcat
Is that Eddie Cook's max wedge? Beautiful car.
Do you think the 71 cuda was a bit worked up?