How I Would NOT Learn Data Science in 2023.
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 26. 07. 2024
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In this video I talk about how I would not learn data science in 2023. I take a look at the 7 traps that data science learners fall into and how to avoid them. I hope this helps you make 2023 your year for achieving your data science aspirations!
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Mistake #6, what if i use ChatGPT, Google, CZcams or whatever that is not a person to ask for help?
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Brief:
1. Don't Start at the beginning
2. Don't go in without a plan
3. Don't let perfect be the enemy of great
4. Don't get stuck in tutorial hell
5. Don't keep your work to yourself
6. Don't ask for help
7. Don't give up
Thanks!
@@KenJee_ds Thanks to YOU for making such candid and valuable content.
6. DO ask for help
Goals for this year are to get hired as a data analyst, get experience, and begin the process of transitioning into data science.
Awesome!
same here
Your videos are a HUGE inspiration!! just started out my own youtube (from my experience as a data analyst) All the best!
it's so rare to have wisdom shared and so underrated. We really should appreciate more of the mistake's and realized we could learn a lot from it. Learn from it to prevent these mistakes from happening of course.
Agreed!
I do relate to the "tutorial loop", I am stuck into one. Thanks for the video, now I can really start to learn.
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As someone who has completed 100% of every Udemy course I started, I'll also advise to not fret about taking multiple courses on the same subject. Many topics, such as statistics, can be taught in half a dozen different ways, and the way they're taught in a new course could convey valuable insight missing from old ones. However, also do not make the same mistake I made and just take course after course (i.e., tutorial hell) because AI/ML/DS subjects run deep, and you can keep going down rabbit holes for the next ten years and still never learn everything there is to know.
The rabbit hole never ends! Thanks for sharing your experience! I love comments like these
Shift focus on projects that point?
My goal is to become a data scientist specifically in the video game industry! Thanks ken for keeping my motivation up!
I have failed quite a lot of interviews and therefore would like to look back to see what was wrong as well as to find fresh motivation in the new year. Thanks a lot Ken and Ben!
Thanks for watching!!
I like how ken updates his learning roadmap each year
Thanks! Figured I would mix it up with what not to do this year since my roadmap didn't change too much since 2022
This was a great video. I've been putting together a plan for 2023 data science learning to expand my existing skill set, and this was very helpful.
Really happy to hear it was helpful!
I've just recently discovered my passion for data science as an economics graduate. While my statistics and math bases are pretty solid Im totally lacking on the technical part (just started to learn Python).
I discovered your channel not long ago and Its absolutely amazing how much your videos helped me finding motivation and guidance through this difficult journey.
My aspiration is to become a data scientist, I know it's a long path, but your experience and advices never fail to give me the confidence I need.
Thank you for everything you're doing man, I greatly appreciate that as a senior data scientist you spend your time and effort to help newcomers like me. Keep it up bro, you're doing a great job â€ïž
Amazing!! Good luck on your journey :)
Hey Can you suggest some ways to get my basics right i.e maths, stats
I meant to say what you got is where I am lacking
however my technical part is bit sorted
@@spunky1682 The best way to acquire those is through college. If you have the chance you could attend some basic statistics classes in your local university or search for some online course on the internet.
â@@luchard6374 Hey currently I'm enrolled in a college which is 4yr program
BS in data science
I'm in 1st year
Here they're going through maths n stats from 2nd yr onwards they'll start python, ML, PDSA etc
but talking about 1st year it is rigourous and is quite tough for me
I am coping up
just want to see a larger picture ffrom you
how much these things will effect at the end.
Towards the end of last year I decided to make the switch from education to data analysis. Itâs been a grind along with life coming in the way, my studying has staggered.
Iâd say my goals for this year is to finish my certification and land a job as an entry level business/data analyst job. Iâm still going over materials and have to admit, Iâm nervous to start my own project. Since Iâm not sure what to do or how long itâll take me.
You can do it! I have a few walkthroughs on the channel, they could help spark some ideas!
i love the video, i think it is a unusual video because the most youtubers make videos where they explain them would learn in the currently year, abd you give us advices to avoid the wrong ways to study in this field, thanks for the video
haha I have made many of those in the past. I figured I would switch it up this year!
Great advice! Happy New Year!!
Thanks for watching!!
Much needed video :) Thanks endlessly
Thanks for watching!
The tutorial hell is quite real!
My goal is to be able, in a year from now, to feel capable of landing a job as a Data Scientist. Preferrably on something related to language processing, due to my liking of languages.
great goal!
Love this! So helpful
Thanks for watching! Glad to hear it was helpful!
Iâve got #6 down solid! đ I hate asking for help anyway. Even on StackOverflow, I find answering questions an extremely good learning experience, but have not asked one question yet.
I have difficulty with number #1 because my goal keeps changing. I keep finding more things to study.
So my new yearâs resolution is to stop changing my goals, finish my projects, and find a job with my current skills this year!
Love it!
Thanks for the fun video. âBenâ is a hoot. đ. For your audience out there, I would like to add that becoming a data scientist is a journey, and it can be longer than you expected. Length depends on your prior knowledge and your goal post. Also, expect to modify your goals along the way. If after 6 months you canât make any progress, then you can revisit your goal. Some percentage of people who try will realize this is not for them or that they have minimal aptitude for it. Thatâs perfectly fine and normal. Your efforts to study Data Science will still be useful in any other field you go into, since some familiarity with AI is becoming a necessity. Otherwise if after 6 months you do see yourself making some progress, then great. Make a small course correction based on what you have learned, and set your next 6 month goal. Repeat until you land a job. Then repeat some more as you advance in your career. đ
Damn it's been almost 3 years since I came across your channel ! I am so excited for you to impact even more people đ» (and strangle Ecstasy in Jiujitsu he'd like it)
Amazing! You were one of my first true fans (and friends) here!
Love the video!
Thank you!
I've been learning python for the past month now and I made some decent progress. I've started to exprole some of areas that python is able to used in. I originally started off my python learning journey to become a software developer but I recently became more interested in data science. My current goals are to get comfortable with python, SQL, and to build my own website/portfolio with django.
I recently found your channel and I can see myself being a frequent viewer from now on, keep up the great content!
Nice!
bro me too, I've been learning python since last year
Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Hi! Thanks for the video. Iâve also been pretty stuck in my progress at landing a Data Science job. Itâs hard trying to work on projects while also taking rigorous classes at school. However I am planning on working on a Data Science project about poker analysis and creating a poker bot with neural networks if anyone is interested in working together!
Awesome project!
Excellent Advice Ken!
Thanks for watching Jaswant!
My college has a Lab that I joined and that got me into an amazin internship where I am able to be both a data scientist and a data engineer in order to better grasp my interests as well as getting paid very well. I was very unsure of my future until about 3 months ago so keep going guys, the harder you work the more luck will come your way
Sounds like an awesome program!
Hi, Thank you for the info. How did you manage to combine both DS & DE roles?. Don't the companies usually have separate roles. How much of an increase in salary compared to separate roles?. Is the working hours affected by the combines role?. Thank you.
@@RJNair129 How's it going! I am an intern so I am not really a Data Scientist or a Data Engineer. My internship is focusing on both roles Data Science and Data Engineering. Some days I will work with the Data Science team and some days I will work with the Engineering team. It isn't a big company, 5 Data Scientist and 3 Data Engineers then me lol, my official job name is "data fellow". Hope this answers your questions.
@@robertmoncriefglockrock8957 Thank you, Robert.
Love the mo Ken! You should keep it!! Oh sorry I meant Ben đđđđ
lol
I like the video †Super funny and informative! My goal is landing a job as Data Scientist in humanitarian sector
Awesome! Glad to hear you enjoyed the video!
I always enjoy your videos Ken :D
Thanks!
My goal is to land a sports quant role! Need to improve my R skills, and more importantly, brush up on statistics knowledge.
Awesome!
Ben you and I will both get that Data Science role this year! Letâs get it
Yes!
much needed :)
Thanks for watching!
Hello to Ben from me. Took me a long time to even settle on data science as the career path and my goal is to build a career in research. Right at the moment research doesnât feel plausible to get a job so I am tackling finance to get into data science in financial industry. Hope it works and wish me all the best đ
You can do it!~
Thanks Ken Jee! You inspired me to start my data science youtube channel. It would be a dream to collaborate with you sometime !
Awesome! Will check it out
haha this thumbnail nails the learning process
Thats what I was going for đ
That's such a funny example. I have a BS in food science and getting my MS in data science now, and I am in the same boat of wanting to do data science for a large food conglomerate just like Ben
Didn't want to watch the video,but I'm glad I did, thanks Ken for the advice, I've self reflected and pointed out the mistakes I made in my data journey, this video has proved the solutions, hopefully I use at least 70% of the advice given. By the way my goal is to get a job in marketing analytics this year !
amazing!
I'm no spring chicken and I feel dipping into Data Science at my age might be brutal, but I'm giving it a go. It's either move with the times or step aside and watch. Thank you for your videos, you might see me pop in once in awhile.
You can do it!
2022 was full of traps... Thanks for the points Ken. It will help me to plan 2023 better.
BEN is looking like David Warner.đ
lol
I started watching Kenâs videos roughly 2.5 years ago while I was still working retail. Now, I am a Senior Data Analyst working for a large energy company making 6 figures annually. Thanks Ken!
I forgot to mention, I participated in Kenâs first 66 Days of Data challenge too!
Amazing! This makes me so happy and motivated to make more content! Do you mind if I share this comment?
@@KenJee_ds You can share it bro! I hope to see Ben in another video in the future.
@@mirror1023 Amazing! Thank you!
Obviously you are american, there is no way you would be a senior data analyst with 2.5 of experience winning 6 figures annually anywhere on this planet. Consider yourself lucky to be born in USA
@@rafael6693 I was not born in the US. I also got my masterâs degree in DS during those two and a half years. English is not my first language. I paid for all of my own education and I also worked as a Technical Project Manager before landing the Data Analyst job. I also have a GitHub profile that my employer viewed beforehand.
I am lucky because my parents sacrificed their businesses, family and entire lives so we could grow up poor in the US instead of living lavishly in a third world country.
You jumping to conclusions is not cool. Youâre lucky that I have too must respect for Kenâs comment section otherwise, I wouldâve been considerably more aggressive in my response.
Hello everyone, Iâm starting out and just learning data science and analysis. By the end of the year I really hope to learn a lot and hopefully land a job in a space or car related industry.
Awesome!
Great video Ken. Thank you! I do have a question. At the 3:29 minute mark, you mentioned about cluster analysis technique being used in the food industry. Is there some sort of a reference article that lists all the different techniques and the domains that they are heavily used in ? Thanks
To be honest, that was just a hypothetical example, I should have clarified in the video. Sorry about the confusion there!
You can usually find the relevant techniques for the industries if you read blog posts related to the industries at hand. Unfortunately, there isn't one large reference article
That's exactly what I needed to get my learning path a little bit more structured.
I really struggle to give an estimate of my skills to land internship/junior position. For example, what should I know and be able to do in SQL to be junior data analyst? I have learned how to use joins, subqueries, CASE and other basics but I don't know is that enough for entry position and I should focus on some other skills. I would be really pleased if someone can advise on this :)
Honestly, that is probably enough for an internship. Most people find after they land the job they learn a huge amount. There are also some pretty good services for practicing sql like stratscratch & dataleemur
As you were saying about tutorial hell I just realised that I am stuck in a road map hell. I've been watching many road map videos on yt, and still don't know where to start. Everyone says maths is very important and I am afraid if I can take it or not. I am not that bad at maths but still I am afraid that what if I won't be able to learn it and wouldn't that be a waste of time.. There goes my dream of growing a career in machine learning. Btw I am good at programming and that's the only reason I have to learn machine learning.
I kinda think you can avoid the math till later (probably not helping). My best advice is to go on kaggle and do the micro courses there, then start doing projects as quick as you can.
@@KenJee_ds Thnx for the reply man. I am not complaining about learning maths ( I will learn it ;â -â ) ) but I do wonder if these data scientists and machine learning engineers use calculus and stuff in daily life. Don't they have libraries that would do the job?
I love you, Ben!!! đđđ
I'm currently at mistake 4. I'm using resources to further my skills and touch up on my learning, but haven't the slightest clue on where to begin with a project. đźâđš
You can do it!
I spent all of 2022 trying to get a job as a data analyst or scientist (despite having qualified experience, skills, etc.). At best, I improved my resume, got better at interviewing, learned skills, and earned a Microsoft certification. I am better prepared to continue trying in 2023.
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So much emote material, omg KEN I need those Ben faces đ
lol, am I going to cringe at tinas discord even more nowđ
@@KenJee_ds embrace the cringiness! your emotes have a fan following there!
great video.
Thanks!
that was helpfull
Your videos are awesome. I would appreciate your opinion on whether you think a bootcamp is a preferred method of learning DS fundamentals, or if I would be better off using less expensive classes that cover the same material? IMPORTANT: My employer is offering to pay for a bootcamp, so that's my main reason for considering one (if I were paying myself I would probably not entertain a bootcamp). I guess I'm asking: "Do you think the structure and material organization in a bootcamp would be significantly better/faster for learning DS fundamentals?" If not, I'll save my employer some money and they'll be happy about that. Also to your point in this video, I can probably create a more individualized learning path for my employers specific needs outside of a bootcamp. Thanks again for all your awesome content!
Thanks for watching! This is a good question. Generally, bootcamps are aimed at people trying to land a job, they are aggressively paced with a good amount of resume/ job focus +networking. If you can find one that is a bit more self paced and has less emphasis on landing a job, I think it could be worth it. Generally, I think online course options are quite good and cheap with the same info. I have a discount code in the description for 365 data science which is the one Iâve made courses with, but most of them are solid. If your employer is willing to pay, I would also consider an advanced degree. This probably has the most long term upside, but would take quite a bit longer. Hopefully this helps!
@@KenJee_ds Thanks a lot! My thoughts were similar.
Another Ben here đđżââïž. However, Iâm glad I caught this video within three weeks of my journey.
Hopefully it helped!
My goal for this year is to land a junior data/business analyst role.
Nice!
Great.... hope i would have found it earlier....
With the amount of resources and roadmaps available online , I am genuinely and scaringly overwhelmed and unable to lay out what should I read this year to deepen my knowledge
Hopefully I'm not adding to that confusion. My advice is to choose one and stick with it! Luckily, I think many are quite similar
Hey Ken do you think starting with a data analyst role and then moving into data science role is a good idea??
Iâm Ben everybody!!
Lol glad Ben has some peers!
Me too
Hello Ben! I'm Ben!
Hey, Very nice video and that is what i believe that self-learning is important rather than relying on someone all the time. I have one question, as I am learning data science & working on projects. I am good at coding & ML but when it comes to present the analyzed data like i am struggling to present it or understand real insights of it in a better way which is the most important, can you suggest any video/website or anything that can really help me?
I have a few videos on data visualization that may be helpful. I do some of that in most of my project walk through content
great thanks!!
this video came to me on the perfect time i felt won't give up data science #manifestingdatasciencegoals
Yay!
Thanks Ken for the advice. I have learnt so much from your videos. I stopped for sometime. However, i have a goal this year to finish more than 5 projects if possible.
Does anyone here works as a Data scientist in real estate industry? I need some help
Great goal! You can do it!
Can you make a video on the best resources to use for beginners in python that are trying to make their way into data science? This would be very helpful to many I'm sure
Will look into it!
Thank youu
Thanks for watching!
hey ken do you think that taking courses on how to do projects is beneficial? because I'm in my first steps in learn data science and I don't have a clear vision on how to do projects.
I think they can definitely be useful. The kaggle micro courses are pretty good for this. I also have a few project walk throughs on my channel!
@@KenJee_ds Glad to hear! I'll check them out
Thank you Ken for the content and discount code.
Does 365 datascience help in placements?
Thanks for watching! No certificates will help with placements. What will help the most is your portfolio!
As a senior college student do you think a masters is valuable to land a job in data science? At least my plan is to fo a masters in a specific domain or an area of Data Science like Machine Learning (since my major is Data Science). Ive seen many opinions on the topic but i would like to know you view on the subject. Btw thank you for your videos, they were what inspired me to pursue Data Science!!
I would advise against a masters. I would recommend trying to land a data analyst or swe job first and learn skills while you earn. If you want a masters, try to get your company to pay for it
@@KenJee_ds The thing is i think im not ready for the job market. Even though i have some experience from working in a Junior Enterprise and in February i will be a research assistant for a project in my college i think i need to learn more in order to have skills for the job market. Knowing this i decided that maybe doing a masters could allow me to not only apply my knowledge in a domain (depending of the masters) but allow me to learn more. I find it hard for me to land a job right after i graduate so idk what to do
Hey @Ken Jee i already asked this in your most recent video but thought i would ask here again. Can you help me with this question. I feel like your the most knowledgeable person to ask this. I am a recent graduate in Computer Science and want to instead go into Data Science instead of the traditional Software Developer/ Software Engineer career. So as someone like me who eventually one day wants to work in data science industry, is there an entry level job role that one can apply as a starting point and just get promoted/ level up to a data science in time rather than just trying to apply for a data science position from the get go? I dont mind starting at the bottom and working my way up the ladder. If anyone else can help with this, it would be greatly appreciated.
Yep! Data analyst or software engineering can both be good starting positions for working as a data scientist!
Hi, Ken. I have few questions?
1. How to show my tableau, powerbi, excel project? I meant How do I show recruiter my powerbi and tableau project.
2. Do my project need to be an end-to-end project where I should be using a single dataset showing data manipulation using SQL and then export it to tableau or powerbi for creating dashboard. Is it okay to have SQL project, tableau and powerbi project different from one another.
3. I have difficulties while solving complex SQL queries. I need lot of time to solve complex queries. In beginner level role, how much complex queries I need to prepare for interview. Do interviewers ask complex queries to solve in live interview or give complex queries as task or assignment to solve?
4. how do I know I am ready to sit for powerbi and tableau interview? I meant how much do I need to know about powerbi and tableau to sit for an interview.
Hey! (1) You can showcase them on tableau public and provide links in a personal website to them (2) They don't need to be end to end. Having one at least one end to end is a bonus though (3) That really depends on the question. I would look at interview query, strata scratch, or data lemur for some practice on sql (4) You will never know if you're ready till you try. I recommend going after them before you feel ready because it is good practice.
When need practical short course on how to learn applied statistics with hands-on examples
hey Ken! is there a big gap in skill and difficulty between entry data analyst jobs and more advanced positions like data scientist?
I think there is a modest one. The biggest thing is the experience difference
@@KenJee_ds thank you for answering! your channel is amazing.
I feel called out
I know it says don't start from the beginning but what if I feel like I need to brush up on my foundations with linear algebra and statistics/probability?
That can be helpful!
Cute project. I think it is great name for cat =)
haha I was going for a "Pet Project" metaphor
What do you think:
I want to learn data science to be able to solve some problems, especially in my continent(Africa). And I want to be able to build revolutional product.
However, I don't know yet what product I want to build or what problem I want to solve.
I would ask people in your community what their most pressing problem is. You can do research in this way to find opportunities to help
@@KenJee_ds Thanks a lot sir. I will do that by God's grace
Okay
Hey Ken
This was really a motivational video on my side. I am actually based in Africa, so can I learn the field of Data Science completely for free through an intensive 8 months program established by me and land a job abroad in the field?
You can learn it completely for free! You may want to target a data analyst role first though, those are easier to land
@@KenJee_ds OK Thank You!
How did you go about learning data science specifically for sports? Itâs a field Iâm interested in too
I think I have a video on that on my channel if you search for "sports". Generally I did projects related to sports and read the book mathletics
@@KenJee_ds Thank you, I recently picked up this book due to so many recommendations. Will definitely read and look for the video
I'd highly appreciate if we could make a community for sports analytics and share our insightsđ especially for beginners
I think a few exist already on discord!
Can I ask what range your salary is for sports data science
It is generally lower than traditional data science. For people in the us, entry level for an analyst can be like 50k-80k
Hey I feel like the universe has allowed me to see this video a year later. Hey I like food too. đ
Hii ken jee, can you please share your thoughts for learning data analytics.. if possible. Plzzzz
I defer to alex the analyst or luke barousse for that!
@@KenJee_ds thank you Ken for your insight... I was not hopping a comment from you. I appreciate that.. thanks a ton!
Data science is not "import Tensorflow as tf".
Hi I wanted to ask can people with bachelors in Art degree learn data sciences and actually succeed in the field?
It is definitely possible! May take some time though
When it comes to data science is there a specific language that itâs taught in?
Python or R Generally
@@KenJee_ds oh ok the reason I ask is because Iâm going to go through a coding bootcamp but itâs for full stack in JavaScript and wanted to know how difficult it will be to do data science
The one thing Ben shouldnât change⊠his mustache đ„žđ
Lol agreed
Can data science help in sports prediction?
Yes!
Hey Guys, data analyst here trying to break into data science. lets connect!
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Sir, Can a person with career gap of 4 years enter into this field and get a good job?
Yes!
Hi.
I'm interested in pursuing Biomedical informatics. I'm currently in tutorial hell. Any help and discussion is welcome.
Have you tried exploring bioinformatic data on kaggle?
@@KenJee_ds For the last 3 weeks I have been working on a lot of x-ray and MRI data available on Kaggle. The performance of my models are still very low. I'm still trying to get a hang of it.
oh damn I am Ben, ty
lol, he figured it out, so will you!
i want work in datan science, i am from panama but i dont work yet in that field
Awesome!
Sir I don't have a degree can I get a job in data science??
It is possible. Check out my interview with Sergio Ramos on my podcast. He did it!
Did you find the Golden Key Society beneficial in anyway?
Not really, it was just another line on my resume. They did have some scholarships and stuff that could be nice though. If I recall it was free and you got to wear another chord at graduation, so I figured I might as well do it.
@@KenJee_ds lol if we want to join we got to pay $95.
What's about asking for help from chatgpt?
That works too!
@@KenJee_ds I mean, does it count like a googling, or like a mentor asking ?
I need a roadmap for learning data science in robotics domain
I would use one of the typical roadmaps and just do robotics focused projects
@@KenJee_ds Thanks for the reply! Can you suggest any resources or datasets to work on in robotics domain?
Iâm Ben I need to complete a full curriculum đŁ
hahaha
I am 35 years old...its to late to learn data sience with no experience..
Nope. Have heard quite a few stories of people landing jobs beyond this age!
Do you think chat gpt will take over this field?
Nope. I think it will help progress it forward though!
Please make a vidoe on how much math is needed for someone to call themself a "Data Scientist" without feeling like a clown. Thanks
I think I have one for this. You can search my channel for "Math"
@@KenJee_ds Oh yeah just found. Short and on to the point. Thanks for the video!
No way to find jop in data science Ken