3rd Gen Camaro: Are Headers Worth It???
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- čas přidán 12. 10. 2022
- 3rd Gen Camaro: Are Headers Worth It???
this is my 1984 Camaro, evidently somebody installed exhaust headers on a bone stock 350 engine!!! Are headers worth it??? - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Was that call about your car's extended warranty?
I have so much fun with those phone calls
Spark plug cylinder #4 is a bitch to replace. I just replaced mine in a 1985 Camaro Z28 with the tuned port injection. Got to lay under the car, and you got to feel for it, won't be able to see it. I agree, it was a pain.
I shaped a ppntiac 400 in my thirdgen firebird so all plugs are on top some are a bit annoying but can get them all in 20 min or less
I had a 87 T/A with lil more than stock 350 Vortec in it. Ran 14.5 with manifolds and stock 2.5" exhaust. Put a set of Hooker 2460s on it and 3" exhaust with cat delete and ran 13.7s the next time. These cars are strangled by the stock exhaust, shorty headers and 3" unrestricted exhaust certainly adds power
Thanks for the gentle reminder. I was feeling like I had to put shorty headers on my 305 HO! Lol.
Lol, yeah man, that car in factory form will see no benefit withem, just going to regret it later haha. Take it easy.
Always good to see videos from you guys
My 86 TA 305 also has headers from the PO. Angled open wrenches are what allowed me to change all my plugs w/o losing the little sanity I have left.
I put shorties on my Z28 back in 1986. Converted it to dual exhaust. Ran great.
I have trouble with the log type on my 83' z28 with the 350 lol, you just saved me a ton of headache that I wasn't even considering, I forgot how much of a pain the plugs are even with the log type manifolds I have. I was going to redo my whole exhaust system since my Y pipe right now rocks back and forth LMAO, I'll just get a decent y pipe for now and use the log style manifolds until I have my whole top end figured out and ready to be put on.
Cool man, I'm happy to save at least 1 person the aggravation due to doing something so pointless. 🤘🤘
Yep!... It's really fun changing a starter on these with headers
Is it, I haven't had to do that yet...
@@UsefulEntertainment You can get the smaller aftermarket one's I don't think are so bad, but the factory ones seams like damn near impossible without removing some shit... Just did mine a coulpe months ago with a stock 305 and thought I was going to have to disconnect the exhaust but finally wiggled it out. It took me a minuite... but I struggle with alot with shit anyways
1:45. Before someone flips shit. We know peanut port heads are for a big block chevy.
Ford does the same thing. But the plug angle is canted in a way where factory headers and most aftermarket ones clear the plug.
Headers on a stock 305/350 won’t do much other than clean up the sound. I had a set of shorties that opened up to a catless 3” exhaust. My engine was built up substantially though lol. Plugs and header bolts were a pain. Now the car is getting a blueprint 400 SBC and true duals like it deserves.
There u go, that's what I was trying to explain to everyone, headers do become a requirement when build the engine up but they are a novelty item that will bite you in the asss it your putting them on a stock motor that you have no intentions of really modifying. 👍
350 is debatable as to single tailpipe but a 283/307/327 may benefit from a 2.5" headpipes to a Flowmaster merge collector and a 3" muffler/tailpipe. Short stroke, small cubic inch engines (in my experience) have much more bottom end with this high velocity setup (better scavenging). I am a MoPar guy and all my 318s (same stroke almost as a 330/350 Olds) get that treatment. Better breathing/larger CID engines benefit from duals with a X-pipe or H-pipe crossover and 2.5" mufflers (3" with BBs or strokers). You are right though, that most mild/stock engines in drivers need manifolds and a well matched muffler setup! Was nice to see you at the NNNs, I asked about where was your 430 Buick buddy!! LOL
Hey what's up man I remember. Yes I agree with the proper set up they are worth it. I just had to make a video raising awareness that not everything needs or will benefit from them.
Riley should be getting the 430 back soonish.
paid on tuesday. getting picked up next week
Accessing the spark plugs was 100 times easier coming at it from underneath the car instead of the engine bay. Odd thing to do but it did help alot better
Do yourself a favor. Next video park that gay mustang down the street. You are jeopardizing your street cred homie
Damn son. It looks real nice and purty in white doe.
Whoah you better watch cowboy, every time the Camaro takes a dump I go right back to driving ole reliable lol
😂🤣
Considering headers on my olds 350. Seems to be choking with manifolds. I shaped out the 307 on my 90 buick wagon for a 72 olds 350 .030 over with the 280 stick. Tried to copy your build for the wagon. Any tips. And what rear are you running
From what I've heard is it's really hard to fit headers into a b body, you have to cut and weld a lot. Oof, the wagon has like a 291 rear in it, it would probably benefit from say 323s. Olds motors to respond well to headers, especially the early ones with good heads and a decent cam.
My ThirdGen is converted righthand drive. Near impossible to get the plugs in/out both sides. POS.
But, "Love the shape of a ThirdGen".
Now that sounds interesting
I have a 92 350 that was TBI and put a 650 Holly carb on it with aluminum air intake new Distrubtor bigger Cam with lifters and long tube headers that’s going into my 90 camero do you think the headers will help ?
I think they'll help because of the bigger camshaft.
My whole rant on this was it was pointless on this car being a pretty much stock engine.
The biggest problem you may have with them not being that beneficial is, the stock tbi swirl port heads.
If you had an aftermarket set or an older set from the late 60s, headers would really help.
@@UsefulEntertainment I’m in the process of completely tearing it down and repainting and sealing the engine and didn’t want to keep the stock exhaust that came with it so I got street hedman headers and bought stainless steel 2.5” Diameter pipe that I’m either going H pipe or true duals out the back.
Lol. To late I already bought them. I'm putting a drive train in a firebird and needed exaust. I'll just deal with it
🤠👍
Yeah that White Truck at the end had HEADDERS😂...
Idk about headers, but I definitely got a small peepee h0mos3xual vibe...
i embarrased one of those guys with the exact same mods in my STOCK 93 dodge d150 with a 5.2 magnum. dude wouldnt get off my ass as i was leaving a red light. floored it for about a 1/8 mile.
#1 if combined with a free flowing exhaust,yes if not,no dont use a stock,shitty,restrictive 2" y pipe either use a 2 1/2 " dougs y-pipe into a 2 1/2" cat back
Yeah that's a shitty part about headers in tight space, hopefully u don't have to undo the motor mount, hope u can figure something out, thanks for the advice 👍 u can always learn from someone else mistakes when u didn't know u were making a mistake 😉
Lol that's a good way of putting it.
I agree a hundo percemt
I love the look of a third gen. The engineering, not so much, especially after having owned a dozen of them.
Right, I think this will be my last one lol
@@UsefulEntertainment as I get older I start to better understand why older guys buy Corvettes. Factory go fast without mods and parts are easily found at any parts store. I wouldn't say no to a C6. I never cared much for pop up headlights.
@@shadygingergarage oof but that depends on the year. I was going to get a c3 and my dad talked me out of it.
@@UsefulEntertainment I like the look of a C3 and I've wrenched on a few. The late C3s are relatively cheap. The C4 is a glorified Firebird with complex suspension. The C5 got the LS but I don't for the look unless it's a coupe. The C6 seems to be a well built car but I haven't had much exposure to them. The C7 is fast and edgy but still too pricey. The C8 is just trying too hard to be a cheap Ferrari.
Man you know im gonna disagree because i feel attacked lol. i put headers on everything! screw those stock manifolds they really suck those logs are junk to me. thats why i like my pontiac easy to get plugs. But i guess im use to running headers on everything including my daily. Changing plugs with headers is easy when you know the tricks, and i even changed the plugs on my third gen from up top no issues
Lol don't feel attacked. I see what you do on your channel, you also do a little more mods to your cars where it would justify running them. I'd put money on it that if I put manifolds on this thing and went for a drive, I wouldn't notice anything different.
@@UsefulEntertainment I really dont i was kidding lol. I do some other supporting mods but i still believe picking the correct headers help even on a stock engine. Now obviously picking a set of super comp headers on a stock engine is never a good idea. they do make smaller tube headers which can help torque on a stock engine considering the junk old manifold design. Heck look at some of the new exhaust manifolds they almost look like shortys. so picking the right size helps but also one thing from buying alot of headers is dont cheap out because good brands ake sure plug fitment is ok, but also with the larger tube headers you lose some of that because of the larger tubes and it becomes a give and take. Looking at yours well someone may have went either to big or not the correct ones. But that is part of buying someone elses hotrod
I have an 89 camaro RS 305 V8, should I get headers or nah?
Id strongly recommend against it unless you plan on doing a cam and intake where headers can start to take advantage. Or if you plan to swap in a 350 or 383 down the road, you'll already have them but if you plan to leave it pretty much stock, no.
Just my 2 cents.
@UsefulEntertainment thanks man I appreciate it 🙏
@@as28100 np, just trying to save people the aggravation I went through.
not unless you get either 305 vortec heads or bigger cam. as a matter or fact, vortec heads dont really flow any better on the exhaust side than 80s sbc heads.
Slap sum vortec heads, 501 lift cam and summit HEI dizzy in it 🤷🏽♂️
Nah, I got all my efforts wrapped up in the 455/4 speed in my cutlass.
I like the Camaro as a nice cruiser.
On the other hand, I also have another Camaro that's getting a little more work done than this black one.
Stop by the channel and check out the red trash Camaro.
I put headers on my 68 cougar, wish I had left it stock.
Erik you need to just buy another cougar already.
@@UsefulEntertainment I wish, they are going for a lot now.
@@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 keep looking and you'll find one that slips through the cracks like how Riley found that skylark for cheap.
@@UsefulEntertainment or you could buy me one lol.
@@kingerikthegreatest.ofall.7860 if i had the cash id be buying a lot of friends cars for them lol.
i have that shirt
At 8:03 u said shit so it’s already demonetized rip
Ehh, as long as you keep it to less then 5 shlts a minute, they don't care 😂😂😂
@@UsefulEntertainment 5 shits a minute!? Better see a gastroenterologist!
But sucking on cigarettes is smart.
There's always that 1 person thats envious of the cigarette.
@@UsefulEntertainment I don't envy stupidity.
@@Thirdgen83 it's still gives me a chuckle that the only thing that you found worth making a comment about was my smoke...
I'm sure there is something stupid that you enjoy partaking in and if you say there isn't, ether your in denial or your a liar.
@@UsefulEntertainment No, I don't do stupid things, and I'm not a liar. Nice try though.
@@Thirdgen83 ahh denial. Knew it was one or the other.
Exactly right! Some morons do not understand the concept of a “package”-especially when it comes to engines. Those headers, on that engine, are a complete waste of time & money.