$30 Oscilloscope For Retro and Arcade Gamers
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- I recently found a cheap oscilloscope that's perfect for retro gamers looking to verify that their arcade boards (via superguns) and RGB SCART cables are safe to use! This scope won't replace something like a Rigol for development use, but it's small, battery-powered and works well for testing!
Cheap Scope*: amzn.to/3TJQ5O4
Links to alternatives that should be the same are below. If possible, use the exact link above though!
Multimeter: amzn.to/3EjfqIJ
Resistor Kit: amzn.to/3EGChzp
Console5 SCART: console5.com/store/catalogsea...
RGBench: bit.ly/cmrgbench
Rigol DS1054: amzn.to/2TPwoGv
5BNC Breakout Cable: amzn.to/3ApOki8
More info on using Oscilloscope with retro gaming equipment: www.retrorgb.com/oscilloscope...
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*Alternatives that SHOULD be re-brands of the one I showed in this video - Only purchase if the above link is out of stock:
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amzn.to/3GJ2Khf
amzn.to/3i061yi
amzn.to/3GHPvNI
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00:00 Intro
00:38 Unboxing / Disclaimer
01:31 Sync Testing
02:56 Tips & Accessories
06:36 RGB & VGA Testing
09:10 Supergun Video
13:08 Supergun Audio
16:43 Compared to Rigol
17:41 Conclusion - Hry
As a beginner, I’m all about low entry options that allow me to learn without spending a crazy amount of money. Thanks as always Bob!
Could also recommend the Papilio FPGA Logic Analyzer Bundle if you want to analyze via PC/Laptop, record some signals or analyze it more in depth. It's a tool for embedded development too, so if you want to get your feed wet with Arduino, Microcontroller and stuff this is a tool you should have in your inventory.
Yes. I've needed an oscilloscope forever but didn't know how to ensure an entry level one didn't suck lol. Thank you so much Bob!
this is insane! i dont know how much use i would have for one because all this is so intimidating to my stoner brain! But you do such a great job explaining things so well that even i feel like i can understand and follow along! Happy Thanksgiving Bob! I hope you and your family have a wonderful day!
I just picked up the rigol about a month ago. I'd love to see more scope content. I'm loving just measuring everything lol. After so long having to kinda guess and make do with a multimeter. :)
That's a cool gift idea or just a great portable tool for out and about. I hear you on the the right test screens. Only learned that an all White is a better than individual color after getting some great feedback from others in the community a few days ago.
Very nice. I'm about to try out a ZT-702S for similar use.
Great video! I got myself a Siglent SDS1104X-E for xmas, not just for its more practical uses debugging devices I'm designing, but also as a diagnostic tool for maintaining and repairing retro gaming hardware. I was in the process of designing my own Nintendo AV Multi-Out diagnostic breakout board to more quickly work through all the consoles/boards I've accrued when I stumbled upon mention of the RGBench on your blog. I immediately went and picked one up direct from Qwertymodo's Tindie, where it's a bit cheaper. 👍👍
The specs seem to be similar to DSO-138 or DSO-150. While those came in kits, for the same price, this may be a better option for those that are not willing to build it themselves. DSO-150 came in its case but seems to be a bit more expensive. Another plus for this one is the battery (there are rechargeable battery hacks for DSO-138/150).
I use DSO-150 from battery or a linear power supply I made with an old transformer so I have a good isolation. Nice to have another option.
What can be used for? Well, almost anything up to 200kHz in theory. Analog video and audio signals are well in the range of it, just like many SMPS, buck converters. Keep in mind that the 200kHz max range is for sinewave; square wave, or other signal shapes need more bandwidth (I consider 50kHz to be a reasonable limit to see any other signal on these devices).
For a beginner or for a portable oscilloscope I do recommend it due to its price, keeping in mind its limitations.
MORE OF THESE VIDS PLEASE !
this is great
Thanks for watching!
great stuff bob! thanks.
It's probably the sound effects, but your transitions remind me of those from the tv show Crashbox. Fun memories.
This is the first video I watch from you and I gotta say, what a banger of an intro.
Thanks! It's a song I wrote for my last band!
Ordered before they go out of stock from the RetroRGB affect 😁
Happy Thanksgiving 🦃
Regarding sound testing, it's a shame there's not a common sound test option that will send out a "full volume" sine wave or white noise so an operator will know "this is the loudest sound that the DAC will ever send to, and will ever come out of, the sound board's preamp."
Heck yeah, I'm grabbing one and a new multimeter. Have to push hard on mine to get the leads to register now and leads are as expensive as a whole new unit. Can't complain since it's cheap and laster 7 years.
Thanks Bob!
Great video that's really helpful for allowing us folk to get more into a pretty intimidating art of troubleshooting. Looks like the Amazon listing has been RetroRGB'd as it's sold out now lol
Are you sure? I just checked and it’s still there. I added more links to the description too - Please check those as well.
@@RetroRGB heads up, these are going fast, those alt links are out now too. For me, at least.
All the alt ones still showed in-stock. This makes me so friggin happy though!!! That means tons of my fellow nerds will have safe SCART equipment :)
@@RetroRGB Agree, it's power to the people ultimately. Even if we can't all source this exact model right now, it does open up everyone's eyes to the kind of thing that's out there.
Thanks for the video review Bob!
Out of curiosity, how does this compare to the plethora of small DSO scopes that have been around for years?
I've always found those really underwhelming and maybe this could be a nice portable solution instead of a big Rigol.
I've never used one, so I can't really comment. I liked this a LOT better than the Owon though, cause you don't need a PC to use it. LOL, or even power!
Just curious, what is the highest sample rate possible on this bad boy? And does it have a trigger function? I saw 20 microSeconds per division (i assume) in the video…. Thanks again, i am going to check what this device can do!
I'm pretty skeptical of cheap digital scopes but the technology must be improving so hey, maybe they're decent now? I'm definitely interested.
Well, as I said a bunch of times in the video, I trust this for making sure my sync and superguns won't blow out SCART equipment, but I would NOT trust it for development. So, I'm just as skeptical as you :)
Looks like all the Amazon sellers are out of stock now - good work! :)
I just checked and all sellers have stock listed. At least for Amazon in the US. Weird that people keep saying they're OOS. I mean, I believe you! LOL, I just can't figure out why I can see it and others can't.
I have one of these DANIU ADS5012H ”portable oscilloscope” that I tried to measure SCART voltages. I just now realised that I forgot the 75ohm load and I had the SCART-connector disconnected, so that’s why I couldn’t get a proper measurment. This video really helped, thanks Bob!
I hope the scope I have can do the same though, does anyone know?
I've never used one of those, so I can't really say if it'll work for retro stuff. Really glad I was able to share the 75ohm load tip though!
@@RetroRGB Will try this again with the scope I mentioned and the 75ohm and come back with an answer! Thanks for the reply, Bob ❤️
Would this oscilloscope be good enough to calibrate the laser on a console's optical drive?
That's an excellent question!! Sadly, I have no clue. I'll see if someday I can follow up with a video on that.
@@RetroRGB that would be cool. 🙂
Nope - you should select an oscilloscope with a bandwidth around 5 times the frequency of the signal you want to measure. 40kHz bandwidth on this device is good enough as a voltmeter. I’ve done PS1 laser calibration with my Rigol DS1102 and that has 200MHz bandwidth and dual channel inputs, which cost about 5 times the sale price of this device. Put your money towards a more capable oscilloscope!
@@bruce_just_ Thanks for the advice.
any eu source for ordering?
Not that I know of. Maybe Amazon uk has it?
This or the ZEEWEII DSO2512G?
I've never tested the ZEEWEII. And it's more than double the price.
Hey Bob, could you try to get in touch with otaku-games HK?
They seem to be out of business, at least they won't answer any questions for a year and many posts on reddit have ordering issues.
You also recommended some of their stuff, so if people see your reviews they could fall for that because you can still buy stuff, send the money and not receive anything.
Would be nice if you can shed some light onto this, maybe the owner just has issues because of chip shortage or something else is going on.
At least you can put a warning to your old videos so people don't waste over $100 like me 😕
And you think the right place to post this is in a video about a scope?
@@RetroRGB Maybe? Trying to get you via other social media channels didn't work out or at least I didn't get a response. I also think this is a rather important topic since many people are losing money on this once trustworthy shop you at some point recommended. Sorry for spamming your comment section of this video, the 200KHz osci is nice for this price though :D
No stock left. Wow that was fast. Lol
Double the price in the UK :(
Last time I bought a Finrsi scope, it turned out to be a counterfeit version of the JYETech DSO 150 (identified as such on their forums) and was dead on arrival - be warned, people.
youre already a legend.