Cargo Plane Takes Off Too Late
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you too bro!
Merry Christmas to you too! Thank you for all of the great videos.
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Did the cargo plane land safely?
My dad was a 747 pilot for many years. He said he learned how to perform the perfect landing by turning on the auto land feature and watching what it does.
In Alaska we had a saying, "There's old pilots and there's bold pilots, but there arent any old, bold pilots."
@@id10t98 In Alaska? That's a common saying worldwide. There are old pilots & bold pilots, old electricians and bold electricians, old truckers & bold truckers, old soldiers & bold soldiers, etc.
@@FinalFront struck a nerve, did i? take a midol man...
@@id10t98 Calm down, no one is out to get you.
@@FinalFront I always thought Alaska was part of the world, glad someon'es got it all figured out
I love how many angles of the Aerosucre incident there are. Like, when the locals hear an Aerosucre plane is taking off they all get out their cameras because they know it's gonna be good.
Not anymore. Only years and years of neglect of their job duties lead the Colombian civil air authority to not have attempted to stop the use of the airport for this aircraft type. It was ruled that the 727 cannot use this airport years earlier, and it was not certified for such use at the time of that departure also.
@@MarkH10 Link?
Lol!
More like ÆroSucker
Those passenger pushing their own equipment on that flight brings a new meaning to "economy class"
Самое интересное, что они потом ещё и полетели на этом самолёте. То есть, их не смутило то, что он сам ехать не может))
😹😹😹😹😹
Hey. It’s Russian we are ok with it. :)
I'm guessing they didn't realize the flight crew was joking with them when they said it would help if they all got out and pushed lol.
If passengers had to push the plane out due to the icy ground, I would not trust the ability to travel the runway for lift off. I'd also worry about icing on the plane. Bottom line...not taking that flight.
Why is no one talking about the beautiful DC-3 landing? That is an extremely challenging situation and the pilot executed the landing damn near perfectly.
That’s because people, unfortunately, wants to see gore!
Any idea why they did a gear up landing? I dont understand. If they lost an engine on take off the gear should have been down or had time to go down. I know nothing about flying but i know its sad to see a dc3 go down
@@eatshitcommies It looks like the DC3 barely made the runway, given the low turn over parked aircraft on the ramp. Lowering the gear would have added drag and may have entirely prevented them from reaching the runway.
@@eatshitcommies I think it might be because they wanted to avoid the extra drag. As you can see in the first clip, they barely made the runway. They would have never made it with the extra drag of the gear down.
The Aerosucre actually chrashed literally instantly after taking of. They made it up to around 240 meters before chrashing down. The plane not only hit the fence but also struck a tree and a small wooden shed, ripping off the right hand landing gear and severely damaging the hydraulics system aswell as causing power loss on E3.
The plane indeed almost hit some pedestrians and motorcyclists when breaching the perimeter.
There were several mistakes made. While the tonnage wasn't even the biggest problem, it was merely a ton too much. But: the pilots miscalculated the takeoff speed, they used a too low rotation angle (1 degree instead of 3) and missed to switch the damaged hydraulics system to the working one which could have prevented loosing total control.
Just to add a bit more detail to what was said by the op. From avherald:
"In Aug 2018 the GRIAA released their final report in Spanish concluding the probable causes of the crash were:
- Inadequate flight planning by both operator and crew by failing to perform dispatch procedures such as takeoff performance calculations and verification of limits imposed by the operational conditions of the aerodrome correctly.
- Wrong decision making by the crew by not considering a key aspect affecting the performance of the aircraft, the prevailing tail wind at the time of departure.
- Incorrect selection of takeoff speeds V1, Vr and V2 by the crew, which corresponded to an aircraft without flap modifications, which resulted in the crew initiating rotation 5 knots over required speed, which increased the takeoff roll distance.
- Erroneous rotation technique applied by the pilot flying, that delayed the rotation and further lenghtened the takeoff run.
- Loss of components (landing gear, trailing inboard flap) and damage to functional systems (loss of engine #3 engine, loss of hydraulic system) needed for aircraft control in flight.
- Loss of control in flight by lift asymmetry as well as the hydraulic system losing fluid and subsequently hydraulic power causing the control forces to exceed the capacity of the crew making it impossible to maintain adequate directional control and stability of the aircraft.
Contributing factors were:
- Breach of Aeronautical regulations by the operator by operating the 727-200 into an aerodrome not suitable for the operation of a 727-200, in addition the operator had not been authorized to operate a 727-200 into Puerto Carreno in the Operating Specifications of the company approved by the Aviation Authority.
- Lack of standardization and supervision by the operator which permitted a Boeing 727-200 with flaps modification to operate with a speed reference table corresponding to aircraft without such modification.
- Execution of the takeoff at a weight exceeding the maximum takeoff weight permitted by the conditions at Puerto Carreno Aerodrome as defined in the aircraft performance charts.
- Omission by the crew to activate the standby hydraulic system which might have provided emergency hydraulic pressure permitting to regain control in flight.
- Lack of supervision by the Civil Aviation Authority which permitted the operator to operate Boeing 727-200 into Puerto Carreno for several years and permitted the operation of the 727-200 into Pueto Carreno although the aerodrome was not suitable and was not authorized for the aircraft type."
Thanks to both of you (ARCaber and Lewis Taylor) for the very in-depth analysis of this awful incident. Unfortunately, Aerosucre have a terrible record when it comes to safety.
Yeah these guys havent a good track records at all !!!!!! SHADY at the best of times
This is another video this not from the crash
@@MLQUILLA There are lots of videos of bad Aerosucre takeoffs, but if you compare the two on this compilation to the more well-known video that shows the whole crash (the one where kids on the road are running out of the way and getting hit by the dust cloud) it's pretty clear they're all the same incident. Same direction, time of day, terrain around the airport, even the oddly-shaped tree off the plane's right wing at 0:40
Keeping up the tradition of always featuring Aerosucre!
Yeah, what are those guys smoking?
If I remember correctly, that particular flight crashed.
@@jwh475ezc Themselves, as they burned in the wreck 3 min later.
The kings of the undocumented payload.
And their was only 1 survivor.
Rumor has it that Lufthansa A380 is still engaged in that never ending low pass!
True ... That explains why they quit using A380
Ground effect's a bitch. Ain't it?
@@TheGeocacheHunter Lol...
Your right! it,s just gone down our street 🤣
Control Tower this is Ghost Rider, requesting a fly by
My grandpa used to be a safety commissioner for the FAA (mostly thru Boeing in Washington) and travelled all over the world to make sure planes like these were safe to fly commercially. He'd seen some scary things and told me about the first video (not the video but the instance) but I'd never seen it until today. There's so much that goes into getting a plane off the ground. He passed in 2017 so I like watching plane and train stuff to remember him by.
❤️❤️🙃
Very sweet way to honor him :)
May he rest peacefully❤🕊
In Soviet Russia, plane no transport you. You transport plane.
In soviet russia we pushed the plane from airport to airport.
You dont transport plane. WE transport plane
In Russia it's called kickstarting the plane
ahahah
with or without vodka on board ?
For those wondering about the first video: The airplane unfortunately crashed shortly after. Happened in 2016
For real
link
Jesus fuck. These people really need some safety training. I'm not surprised they crashed though, crashing through a fence without any damage would be too good to be true.
any fatality?
@@g_pazzini I read in a different comment that 5 out of 6 people on board passed away.
It's crazy to hear of A380's being retired only 17 years after the first flight, hell before the pandemic I bet there were still a few 747's flying that are close to double that age
Less than 17 years.
They first entered service in 2007.
That airplane entered service decades too late , unlike the 747.
They were ahead of their time.
Large planes the size of the A380 will be back sooner or later and when it's the time, Airbus already has a lot of knowledge gained from the A380, which is one of the best civilian aircraft ever made.
@@user-dv7hq2rh4g lol
I dont get why Lufthansa are fine running the a340 and 747-8 but not the a380?
@@jude_the_apostle they just can't fill it, it's not profitable in the long run.
It's amazing how many videos there of *different* Aerosucre late, overloaded take-off incidents.
this one was the crash
...kinda like SWIFT is in the trucking business....lol
and for the same reasons
Never a 3 minutes of aviation video without at least one aerosucre flight!
I want an Aerosucre special!
I live two blocks away from the airport were the aerosucre incident happened. I didn't even knew it was a famous (infamous?) video.
The fuckup thing is that it's the only cargo aircraft that goes to puerto carreño because every time another company tries to go they lower their prices and even send things free until the competition have no better option but to leave.
@@sney2002 They put profit over lives. Should have their operating license removed tbh.
"C'MON BABY!! LEEEFT YOUR BIGA$$ FOR SASHA!!" - movie "2012" 😂
thats the wabberers version in the sky.
"Passengers had to push back their aircraft on a slippery tarmac".
.
Must be Russia then.
It is.
"You can get out and push, or you can wait for better weather."
"I'll get my coat."
In Mother Russia, airplane rides passengers.
Ну бывает, что поделать.. :)
Someone had to stay aboard and finish the vodka.
I like that last clip. It reminds me of one instant when I was in the Navy. Imagine this. I was stationed in N.A.S. Pensacola. When I got into work at VT-10 at Forrest Sherman Field, N.A.S. Pensacola, 7:00, Monday morning, January 4, 1982, it was nine degrees above zero with a chill factor of forty-five degrees below zero. All our planes were parked on the flight line with the wind blowing straight into the tail pipes. Some jets, you can't start with such a strong wind blowing straight into the tail pipe. We had to go outside and manually turn each plane into the wind so the wind would blow into the intakes. Nine degrees above zero with a chill factor of forty-five degrees below zero. IN FLORIDA!!! That's cold.
A dubious claim. A quick historical weather check shows that the night time low on that date was +12ºC and a daytime high of 16º. No amount of wind anywhere in the world will make those temps "feel" like -45º.
I've often joined my fellow passengers in push backs prior to take off. It's a great way to stay in shape...
Starting the video with an Aerosucre that struggles to take off? Perfect.
Just like old times
And then it crashes and bursts into flames💀
Only in Russia do you have to be ground crew AND passengers...lol
AND a tug
In Russia the snow and ice always find you....
@@theodoreolson8529 obviously at the MOST inopportune times...lol
In Russia, crew grounds you.
@@Ficon thug life 😎
The overloaded Aerosucre that took off too late actually crashed shortly after. There is a video online that shows it. There was one survivor out of 6 on board. (Aerosucre Flight 157)
The last one is due to hit Ryanair before long, those paying an extra 29.99 can remain in their seat during pushback.
I thought it will say,
"Now 10 years later, the Lufthansa A380 is still loitering around the airport 20 feet above the ground,"
DC-3s are legends. Still serving even after the end of ww2.
Such a badass plane, its the 1911 of the aerospace world
Had to help push back an overloaded Yak-40, departing Bishkek for Almaty. Landing in Almaty resulted in the wheel brakes overheating and catching on fire; with three of us assisting in extinguishing the fires.
@Duncan Hackett Drinks? are you kidding? no way will they let you drink during the flight.... Only the passengers can drink,
Hahahaha no way! This is gold. Good thing you didn’t have to assist in emptying the bathrooms.
Meanwhile in Russia.. "This is your captain speaking... We need all passengers to get out and push the plane out of the snowdrift. And thank you for flying Utair Air."
Someone really needs to interview these AeroSucre pilots!
You'd need a medium to interview the pilots in this video ..:(
evidently no one did before hiring them
I think an audit of loading and freight weight might be in order. Overloading also seems to be indicated in a disproportionate number of ex-Soviet bloc and South American Airline videos.
Aerosucre, the gift that keeps on giving!
Sweeeeet.
2:35...
Now that's hilarious!! Imagine the confidence they must've had in that plane when they got back in. 😄
The A 380. A magnificent piece of aviation engineering. Sadly it came too late in aviation history. Also I think Airbus had a severe case of fuselage envy.
Good seeing ya back! Love your content btw. Oh and happy holidays to all!
As a commercial pilot student I can't believe that Aerosucre is still operating
Can?
@@whyjnot420 n't
@@Dhoko TBH I wasn't sure if you were commenting on the company itself or cargo hauling as a whole. Thanks for clearing that up.
Their going downhill fast ! .......Don,t buy shares in them 🙄
The A380 was on a Test flight in Oberpfaffenhofen, Germany 2006 -together with a 747 as comparison- to measure winds and vortex trailings.
The task was to get a better picture of air movements to keep other, mostly smaller planes at safe distances.
Love your videos. No bullshit. Just straight to the point without annyoing narrations or music
Back in my day we had to push the aircraft through the snow the whole way to the next airport...
Uphill. Both ways!
Naked- could not afford clothes!
@@MrTruckerf Shoes? You had shoes?
@@bloodybones63 I had one.I found it along the way.
@@MrTruckerf Mama would slice the bread so thin, it only had one side.
That is an amazing low-pass !
A380 is allready a legend
Ground affect.
A380 is alright, not sure a legend, 747 is a legend.
@@decadantdog4444 Yes, and a really good demonstration of ground-effect: the "superpower" of ekranoplans.
There’s a movie plot in there somewhere - a dark comedy about a down-and-out pilot suffering the consequences of many questionable life choices. After begging a friend in the company to overlook a problematic job history, he gets a job flying freight with Aerosucre. He half-heartedly tries to turn his life around, but he never quite manages to get it off the ground… starring Paul Giamatti and Christina Applegate. It’s called View from Sideways. So many possibilities!
I actually know someone who works at the airport where that DC-3 made its crash landing. The plane is still sitting there waiting to be repaired and you can actually see it from the road.
This was an impressive video. Especially the A380! Thanks.
whomever still flies the A380 THAT'S who i fly with overseas
@@gewglesux I guess you'll be staying in your country for the rest of your life then.
@@LukewarmFoxxo Emirates still flies them.. at least that's what i hear.. or was it Etihad? such a lovely plane though.
When you know it's Russia before the location even pops up... 😅
The titles of each video are gold.
Impressive videos Sir, thank you and Merry Christmas to all
Heck of a landing by that DC 3 crew. Peak performance when your life is on the line.
The wheels were purposely designed to NOT fully retract so as to minimize any damage from a wheels-up landing, just like the fabled B17 bomber.
Why did it have to be wheels up landing is there no system to put down the gear if you lose power?
@@DirtIndustry In the Fortress, there was a manual pump for the hydraulics system to lower the wheels, but it was not uncommon for that to malfunction due to battle damage and fluid loss or simply available crew being too busy keeping the airplane flying.
@@BeachsideHank in the situation above they were not in a battle except maybe with gravity. They were out flying and the engine failed. It's possible they were on approach when it happened and there was no time to deploy the gear but it was not because they were all shot up.
@@DirtIndustry Maybe. But the fact remains it was a design feature, and if your scenario is correct, then it was a good design feature.
Wow. That DC3 footage was insane.
Always great content
I have nothing to do with flying and dont know how I ended up here yet I find this video very enjoyable. thank you and have a great day
2:56 Ryanair bosses wonder if they can save on airport taxi costs by having the passengers push the plane onto the runway.
Commendations to all the extremely skilled pilots of the world (especially loved the DC-3 landing).
Great Video, I loved it!
1:54 Cooper what are you doing?
Landing.
That's not possible!
No, you're right!
I was on a plane that landed in Milwaukee in a snowstorm. I couldn’t see anything out the window until we were at treetop level. Thank goodness the instruments were accurate 😊
Awesome!
Great channel and some awesome video content.
2:32 “Would it help if I got out and pushed?” - Leia to Han after the Millennium Falcon stalls while trying to escape Hoth.
2:37 In Soviet Russia, you pushback the airplane
Is that a different Aerosucre or the same you’ve shown before? I know this one often makes the rounds. This particular takeoff roll caused the 727 to crashed, I think costing the three man crew their lives.
it is the one that crashed.
@@Katniss218 it looked like it. Thanks.
This is an amazing video! Subscribed👍
Great vid. Reminds me of my flying days.
I had to laugh at the passengers pushing their plane back! I've seen a couple of videos of ground crew pushing planes, but never the passengers. I guess when ya gotta get home, ya gotta get home!
I would prefer that every day over being stuck at an Airport for hours or days.
If I remember correctly, this is old video.
That DC-3 is actually an R4D (AKA C-117). Yes, the latter is a variant of the former, but the changes were substantial enough to warrant a different designation.
C-117D
Indeed...the tail fin in particular. I was going to question the DC3 title, but you beat me to it!
Great channel. Thanks
I just love the customers having to push the plane. Complete brilliance. Xxxx
DC-3 landing was impressed, partly thanks to snow reducing friction on the ground.
A380, one of quickest to be grounded…..
Aerosucre never spaces to amaze us
Aerosucre always seem to deliver!
merry Christmas
There is the old trope/question of "could you land if there were no actual pilots to do so?"
Something I have wondered for the longest time is "How hard would it be to set up a plane to land automatically if you had the time as well as verbal direction from an expert on the ground?"
good question, actually thought of it too. there are a few movies where random people land a jumbo, but yeah... movies
I believe there have been simulator tests, which showed that a non-pilot could be instructed to program the plane for what I think is called an "Instrument Landing System, Category 3" landing (an automatic landing). But, of course, they also needed first to figure out how to use the radio.
The non-pilots also needed to be instructed in a sequence of manually-initiated events immediately before and during landing: manually lowering the landing gears on approach when the air speed had slowed appropriately, then immediately before and after touch-down, manually turning off the autopilot, manually engaging the reverse-thrusters and the air brakes, applying the landing gear breaks with, I think, the rudder peddles, and then throttling-down after stopping. Making the plane safe for passengers and crew to leave would probably have to be done by ground crews after the latter boarded.
I could certainly land a plane if need be....... well........I could it back to the ground for sure! :P
You'd have to be able to figure out the autoflight system to set up an autoland. I'm not sure that would be any easier considering time and pressure involved and then trusting the plane is configured properly (remembering that autoland doesn't activate speedbrakes, flaps, lower gear, etc). It would be much better to have someone with flight experience attempt to manually land it, possibly with any assistance they can get from the autopilot. ATC doesn't know how that stuff works in most cases; you'd need to contact the airline control center via radio and nobody outside of pilots and dispatchers would know how to do that from the cockpit. ATC can give general guidance but not aircraft-specific info unless they know the plane in question (which does happen with small planes now and then).
Note that before one can be instructed how to get the plane to an airport and set it up to land, someone will have to figure out how to use the radio and select the right frequency. I am thinking that could, in itself, be quite challenging.
Thanks for Video
2:46 for a sec it looked like they were hanging out on clouds while clinging on to the plane’s wings HAHAHA
I wish there was a way to fly on old passenger planes. I've always wanted to board a DC-10 flight across the Atlantic.
Either there's a hellish headwind or the A380 has a stall speed of about 12!
I think you mean tailwind?
@@Alice-ui9oy How would a tail wind make it stay in the air instead of landing? It looks like they did it for the show.
@@jasons2562 the reason it was so late to take off was partly because of a tailwind which decreases their airspeed.
The faster the headwind the slower the groundspeed
@@Alice-ui9oy wrong
Liked and subscribed!
Thanks for a great 3ma in an unsettled year. 😘
Just for variety, you should find a clip of an aerosucre flight that takes off with no issues whatsoever. Does that happen?
I bet that cargo plane had an interesting landing at the other end too, as I'd be surprised the landing gear didn't sustain significant damage...
It crashed.
It crashed shortly after take off, happened in 2016
Aerosuck needs to start receiving youtube royalties for all this great content.
Great content
Does the manual push back get you a reduced price ticket or airmiles or something?
That made bust out laughing!!! Sounds about right though!
Love how they make runways JUST long enough.
Good ol’ aerosucre. Never failing to let us down 😍
Horrible!
Ironic choice of words, indeed.
I'm a simple aviation fan. I see Aerosucre featuring, I click.
I disagree to the claim that the overloaded Aerosecure took off too late...
It took off at the exact point a horribly overloaded 727 would typically take off. Its just unfortunate the pilots didn't have the minimum necessary 20,000 ft (6,000m) of runway to perform that take-off...
That is my overall point. The Colombian civil air authority did not stop the illegal use of 727s at this airport until AFTER this crash.
( From Wikipedia, *"The 727 used all of the 1,800-metre (5,900 ft) runway, but was still not airborne."*
The math error pivots on the 6,000. It is feet, not meters.....Hell 20,000 feet would have been beautiful, even with shifted cargo, and 1 degree flaps.)
Very nice video 👍
That's the most civilised AeroSucre takeoff I've seen so far
Aerosource again 🤣
Aerosucre, but yes.
The A380 was built for the wrong reason. Airbus wanted the status of making the world's biggest airliner. Problem is the airline world was shifting from hub and spoke to direct services using smaller aircraft. Boeing saw it coming with its minimal charge 747 that was really aimed at the cargo market. The passenger market vanishing and the inability to be a practical freighter doomed the A380. Without Emirates, whose whole existence is a hub and spoke, the A380 would have been an epic failure. It never became another 747 in the sense of capturing public imagine. The 747 had grace and style, the public seeing it as a flying version of an ocean liner. The A380 was a double decker bus.
nothing wrong with them in that direction...emirates has ordered more of these planes. airbus cancelled it because some material problem on older frames or what. it seems it was cheaper to cancel the whole thing as repair it.
This Def got My Sub 😳
This ain't just any cargo plane; this is an aerosucre cargo plane.
The Super DC3 only sustained minor damage in the gear up landing, they were designed to land with the gear up - it will be flying again soon. Where do you get your information from? It's wildly innaccurate as always.
The engines had minor damage?
@@atubebuff bent props, easily replaced.
The DC-3 was very much designed for gear up landings, hence why the gear still protrudes from the faring slightly. just like the A-10
Its a 70+ year old plane... you scratch the yoke with your watch and its major damage! :) its is amazing they still fly let alone do real work on the regular!
@@CapStar362 Do piston-engines not suffer some internal damage from being suddenly stopped and need to be entirely overhauled?
@@atubebuff not if the pilot was in the process of shutting down the engines moments before the strikes, and the props windmilling
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excellent
First
no. I'm first
@@jamescollier3 ok
First what?
First to see the video
@@atreyanarya5049
did ya really watch it first?.....or did ya comment "first" before ya watched it?😏
Thank goodness no one was laying on the other side of the perimeter fence watching planes take off.
That Lufthansa flight is hovering like a bee. 🐝
Awesome
Awesome aviation
Leia: Would it help if I got out and pushed?
Han: It might!
This is yoooor daily dose of airplanes
I have experienced takeoffs like this.... beyond crazy and horrific!! Happy new year 2022 ... Be Safe
Aerosucre FTW again!!