Uncovering the SECRET LORE behind Dark Souls Miracles - Rethinking Dark Souls 3

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  • @ShoddyCast
    @ShoddyCast  Před 5 lety +1927

    Hey guys, kind of a minor error for the impact of the episode here, but still kinda important. I say that the Iron Age lasted 10,000 years, but that's pretty much totally wrong. I think I literally just made a typo in my script, and when my editor brought that up to me I said "Ah, I'm sure it's fine." BUT I honestly probably only said that because I was overtired. It's more about 1,000 years, but a lot of it depends upon the region in question (which is why the three age system isn't a great way of quantifying time, since it's so region-specific). ANYWAY, wanted to throw that correction out there.

    • @MadeinHell2
      @MadeinHell2 Před 5 lety +12

      I just thought you mixed up the whole duration of the Age system. As the entire period (stone+bronze+iron) is often considered to be about a 10 thousand years period. From the start of early agriculture or thereabouts.

    • @tannisbhee7444
      @tannisbhee7444 Před 5 lety +2

      No worries

    • @SamFisher338
      @SamFisher338 Před 5 lety +12

      As a historian that instantly triggered me, haha. But it happens, thanks for correcting yourself. And excellent video as always.

    • @grzegorzronkiewicz5984
      @grzegorzronkiewicz5984 Před 5 lety +8

      more dark souls lore videos please. maybe try to solve the mystery origin of the first flame next time?

    • @aronmerriman9514
      @aronmerriman9514 Před 5 lety +2

      Yes please do a gwyn video!

  • @TierZoo
    @TierZoo Před 5 lety +3740

    I will never not love a good dark souls lore video

  • @TalexTheLich
    @TalexTheLich Před 5 lety +601

    so basically...
    dks 1 : "respect the gods"
    dks 3 : "NO GODS NO KINGS ONLY MAN!"

    • @hitalosera4536
      @hitalosera4536 Před 4 lety +53

      " *ABANDON ALL REASON KNOW ONLY WAR* "

    • @nataliecameron
      @nataliecameron Před 4 lety +17

      Dks 2: "who's Gwyn? You mean vendrick right?"

    • @anchorbubba
      @anchorbubba Před 4 lety +20

      @@nataliecameron whos gwyn? You mean that femme boy trap gwyndolin?

    • @logan6034
      @logan6034 Před 4 lety +1

      sO bAsiCaLly...yeah 😒

    • @Emillia1113
      @Emillia1113 Před 4 lety

      Praise the sun

  • @Renegadebane
    @Renegadebane Před 5 lety +432

    Pyromancy, the common man's magic, also better than everything.

    • @olivierdols5556
      @olivierdols5556 Před 5 lety +23

      its not super duper but it goddamn works

    • @aharr3437
      @aharr3437 Před 4 lety +35

      @@olivierdols5556 Oh no no no my friend... It's super duper. Sage Ring +2 and Vestiges. Enough said.

    • @KleptomaniacJames
      @KleptomaniacJames Před 4 lety +11

      nope, that's witch heresy

    • @EthanDarke
      @EthanDarke Před 4 lety +7

      I was always on the fence with how I felt about pyro in DS3, suddenly needing faith And intelligence to scale anything fire related. Sure it was cool I could scale it more but lore wise it made little sense.

    • @canadianorange9676
      @canadianorange9676 Před 4 lety +7

      GREAT CHAOS FIRE ORB!!!

  • @flervest3407
    @flervest3407 Před 5 lety +238

    “Miracles are bad”
    These are the words of someone without lightning arrow

    • @olivierdols5556
      @olivierdols5556 Před 5 lety +29

      and someome who only leveled to level 20 faith to check lighting spear out and give up and go to strength

    • @actualdinosaur4337
      @actualdinosaur4337 Před 4 lety +1

      Bruh emit force tho

    • @sasquatchkidPS3Xx
      @sasquatchkidPS3Xx Před 4 lety +3

      Trash miracle innit?

    • @bloodasp0164
      @bloodasp0164 Před 3 lety +7

      This theory still explains why lightning arrow is good. Since lightning arrow is found in the ringed city it has been preserved much better than the miracles in the normal world.

    • @dredgendorchadas6770
      @dredgendorchadas6770 Před 2 lety +2

      @@olivierdols5556 sunlight spear says hello to your boss.

  • @SunlightBlade
    @SunlightBlade Před 5 lety +3504

    *cough*
    I'll show myself out

    • @Survivor-od1xy
      @Survivor-od1xy Před 5 lety +133

      WE MUST CRUSADE BRÖTHER!

    • @the3nder1
      @the3nder1 Před 5 lety +54

      For the Lööps!

    • @ShoddyCast
      @ShoddyCast  Před 5 lety +147

      Hidden History reunion tour, wut wut

    • @emilekroth100
      @emilekroth100 Před 5 lety +50

      Ohh, lightning blade is here!!!

    • @carlhilber2275
      @carlhilber2275 Před 5 lety +11

      SunlightBlade checked the comments for no other reason than I thought you might comment

  • @zachh6214
    @zachh6214 Před 5 lety +426

    I didn't know I signed up for a Vaati video.
    Glad you're back Austin don't ever leave us again.... please

    • @infrasound1464
      @infrasound1464 Před 5 lety +4

      Its more like if vaati was easily excited and more into real world science and history

    • @madscientistshusta
      @madscientistshusta Před 5 lety

      Vaati just steals his content from reddit

    • @zachh6214
      @zachh6214 Před 5 lety

      Infrasound cut me some slack... I wrote the comment like 2 mins into the video.

    • @SH19922x
      @SH19922x Před 5 lety

      Vaati is a prancing idiot who gave us nothing but bells and whistles, I've had enough of that clown.

  • @Leo-xn8ti
    @Leo-xn8ti Před 5 lety +167

    "Why do miracles suck so much in Dark Souls III?"
    Because you lack faith!

    • @scpfoundation4717
      @scpfoundation4717 Před 4 lety +12

      I find your lack of faith DISTURBING

    • @j.desoto5870
      @j.desoto5870 Před rokem

      Because devil worshippers are looking foreward to Hell and this is ther denial power fantasy.
      Obviously.

  • @dragonsreingsupreme1
    @dragonsreingsupreme1 Před 5 lety +91

    7 months has passed and am still really REALLY interested in gwynn

    • @joeddenn
      @joeddenn Před 4 lety

      Still interested as well

    • @starbreaker6740
      @starbreaker6740 Před 4 lety +1

      His name looks like someone had a spasm on their keyboard

  • @Nekerfree
    @Nekerfree Před 5 lety +328

    ironic, for the existence of this video is a miracle.

    • @Nekerfree
      @Nekerfree Před 5 lety +6

      p.s. i love you and your work. Hope the channel will shine once more.

    • @Nekerfree
      @Nekerfree Před 5 lety +1

      @John Redican yes, because ds3 isnt relevant anymore

    • @flygawnebardoflight
      @flygawnebardoflight Před 5 lety

      @@Nekerfree jeez man why you gotta roast it like that 😂

  • @karenagenhunder1803
    @karenagenhunder1803 Před 5 lety +347

    giving the balance team too much credit there

    • @cheeky9334
      @cheeky9334 Před 5 lety +33

      Yeah lmao, I just believe they didn't know how to manage miracles so they gut their power in fear of lighting spam

    • @sumbody694
      @sumbody694 Před 3 lety +4

      @@cheeky9334 Just checking in to say that some miracles are okay and actually semi viable, but most are still Grade A garbage.

    • @garrettcooper58
      @garrettcooper58 Před rokem +5

      It’s fromsoft though. If anyone is going to include information entropy as part of a game mechanic, it’s them

    • @Synchbit
      @Synchbit Před 11 měsíci

      @@cheeky9334 Well, after Elden ring and comet azur, maybe they do know what they are doing

  • @corbincavitt635
    @corbincavitt635 Před 5 lety +136

    I think lightning arrow would like to have a word with you

    • @brianmachado4839
      @brianmachado4839 Před 5 lety +27

      Wellllllll it was properly conserved in an atemporal place so its understandable it is powerfull and usefull

    • @Yal_Rathol
      @Yal_Rathol Před 5 lety +21

      being in the presence of the timeless dark soul and the timelocked ringed city probably helped that one.

    • @40subswithnovideose.t3
      @40subswithnovideose.t3 Před 5 lety

      I mean every lightning spell is good though

    • @40subswithnovideose.t3
      @40subswithnovideose.t3 Před 4 lety

      @Haku infinite good add stragedy

    • @thestranger4894
      @thestranger4894 Před 3 lety

      Bruh it’s the most iconic story in all of darksouls

  • @snufftbunz
    @snufftbunz Před 5 lety +210

    It's HIM! AUUUSTIN!

  • @C4lmaria
    @C4lmaria Před 5 lety +247

    Not two weeks ago Brazil National Museum just burned down along with millions of natural and archeological records. This video hit in a really depressive timing.

    • @mondaysinsanity8193
      @mondaysinsanity8193 Před 5 lety +13

      Gabriel Silva Rocha its almost like a second burning of the library of alexandria

    • @heyimanameheyimalastname
      @heyimanameheyimalastname Před 5 lety +7

      Fuck man, that really is depressing... Did they at least have records of it all backed up digitally?

    • @JikuAraiguma
      @JikuAraiguma Před 5 lety +2

      Here's to hoping that other places like the Congressional Library and the Vatican Library can remain intact.

    • @Benthesniperof8
      @Benthesniperof8 Před 5 lety +2

      You're a shortsighted fool.

    • @phaedramorrissey463
      @phaedramorrissey463 Před 5 lety +2

      No almost all of the collection was lost.

  • @T-verseTrevor
    @T-verseTrevor Před 5 lety +47

    So essentially it's like how stories will be forgotten or diluted in the process of time?

    • @lordfarquad8913
      @lordfarquad8913 Před 4 lety

      Duh

    • @fsjof
      @fsjof Před 4 lety

      No, it's like From doesn't know how to balance their games...

  • @satorukuroshiro
    @satorukuroshiro Před 4 lety +50

    So would the lightning patch of Dark Souls 2 be the gods removing a line from the parchment?

  • @jesussoto7774
    @jesussoto7774 Před 5 lety +167

    There is a single tear in my eye or how beautiful this video is I am so happy that one Austin's back 2 shoddycast is actually doing videos love to keep up the amazing job

  • @rpamungkas13
    @rpamungkas13 Před 5 lety +604

    You know why it called a miracle? Because it would be a miracle if you win using these spells

  • @mazingdaddid
    @mazingdaddid Před 4 lety +26

    "Its awesome, sir."
    "You mean like a hotdog?"
    "Its like 100 hot dogs, sir. Its the dog's bollocks."

    • @blackjackbt7375
      @blackjackbt7375 Před rokem +1

      Yes the classic awesome hotdog bit a good thinking joke nice

    • @mazingdaddid
      @mazingdaddid Před rokem

      @@blackjackbt7375 🎩 I'm here to serve

  • @santiagosagrera3670
    @santiagosagrera3670 Před 5 lety +43

    I'd like to point out that the semantic shift is not only present in miracles; in dark souls 1 you can discover by reading item descriptions that in the beginning of the age of fire, pyromancy and sorceries were the same, but at some point the disciplines got separated. You can see that some pyros took a bit of power from miracles, this is present in the "support" pyromancies, like "cure curse" and the one that cures poisoning, this is also represented in the games by requiring both faith and inteligence.
    Also, in the DS1 Dlc, you can see that while the spells remained "the same" what made them dark, is the twisted understanding of the casters, for example, the dark orb is a soul arrow casted by a maddened user, and the persuers... well those are obvious

    • @Tremere
      @Tremere Před 5 lety +8

      Are you sure? I thought one of the Witch of Izalith's daughters specifically invented Pyromancy to give humans a way to manipulate fire themselves. Never remember it being linked to sorcery though

    • @santiagosagrera3670
      @santiagosagrera3670 Před 5 lety +5

      @@Tremere Im not sure, its just speculation, but remember the Demon's Catalyst (ds1) is a staff (sorceries) that was used to control fire (pyros) sadly you cant cast pyros with this staff. Another thing, read the Izalith Staff (ds3) there it says that the flame witches were once sorcerers.
      Yes, its true that pyromancies were "invented", but i was reffering to the old fire arts, and the fire sorceries. sorry :p

    • @Darmouthable
      @Darmouthable Před 3 lety +6

      Sorcery is the application of one's knowledge to influence the world around you.
      Miracles are the recitation and faithful understanding of stories.
      Pyromancy is the nurturing and development of one's own soul.
      Quelana created the method of pyromancy after witnessing the fall of Izalith and the Demon Races, and coming to the conclusion that the knowledge necessary for fire sorcery could not be passed down in the short time mortals have to live. Pyromancers carry a piece of the Chaos Flame created by The Witch of Izalith, which (taking inspiration from the Pygmy's use of the Dark Soul) is split into pieces to be carried and nurtured by the next generations of pyromancers. This skips the knowledge necessary to create a flame (the basis of fire sorcery), and distinctly separates pyromancy from sorcery and miracles, which don't technically require mentoring. Furthermore, there is no semantic shift happening here, since recitation, memorization, and even knowledge plays no part in the development or use of pyromancy. In DS2 pyromancies become more powerful the more intelligence and faith one has, but this is mostly a mechanic for balancing pyromancies, as only in DS3 do pyromancies require certain stats to be used (and even then pretty low requirements compared to sorcery or miracles). Scaling off both intelligence and faith reflects pyromancy's core technique: refinement and growth of one's soul.
      Support pyromancies did not draw power from miracles. No pyromancies in any of the trilogy cure any status. No miracles cure any status in DS1, only sorceries do that. The only miracle which does so in DS2 has the description "This spell was recently developed, and may not be an authentic miracle." The sorceries which cure status in DS1 also come from the sealers of New Londo, so it should be no surprise why those techniques were quickly lost by sorcerers, and resurfaced in miracles.
      In DS1 Big Hat Logan goes mad at the end of his questline. He definitely does not go hollow, as we can see from his willingness to talk to us, and how he takes the time to carry our body to the prison if he defeats the chosen undead where he can be found hostile. So if dark magic was related to the mental state one is in, why doesn't Logan use dark magic when fighting us? Additionally, why can the chosen undead use dark magic, if they're clearly not mad or hollow? Obviously because that's not what causes dark magic; it's actually infusing a spell with humanity. In DS1 dlc, dark magic was possible because of the way the Oolacilians (?) embraced their inner dark souls and caused the spread of the abyss. The spells are "the same" because they are traditional spells fueled by humanity instead of whatever else fueled the spells before. It's like pouring yourself a drink: the shape of the glass determines the spell cast, but what goes in it will tell you whether it will be dark or not. Hexes in DS2 are the result of that idea given time to properly develop, but it seems the hexers were unable to fully distinguish their arts from miracles and sorcery, as hexing techniques became one with miracles and sorceries in DS3.

    • @santiagosagrera3670
      @santiagosagrera3670 Před 3 lety

      @@Darmouthable Wow thank you for taking your time writing that comment, i really enjoyed reading that; istand corrected.

  • @Hanzo1
    @Hanzo1 Před 5 lety +181

    i raised my faith burely so i can use lightning. the lightning does less damage tham a swing of my sword but its sparkly so idgaf

    • @chickencrusade3886
      @chickencrusade3886 Před 5 lety +18

      Boy do I have a surprise for you :)
      a miracle build is completely viable in PvP
      you use a yorshka chime in the right hand for Lightening Arrows
      and a canvas talisman in the left hand to poise cast a sunlight spear directly into the enemy once their health is low.
      For those that didn't know, the lightening stake miracle is weak as fuck BUT ITS TELLING YOU how to properly use other lightening spells. Directly into your enemy with your hand on their face.
      Not to mention BOY THAT TIME I FUCKED MIDIR IN THE FACE WITH NOTHING BUT SUNLIGHT SPEAR WOOOOO

    • @louisharkna9464
      @louisharkna9464 Před 5 lety +1

      Very good attention to context! Sometimes "standing on ceremony" IS a good idea.

    • @Hanzo1
      @Hanzo1 Před 5 lety +1

      @@chickencrusade3886 Thanks for the tips man

    • @hermitcard4494
      @hermitcard4494 Před 5 lety +1

      I did a solo Cleric miracle run. Perfectly viable. And I not even that legendary gamer.

    • @hermitcard4494
      @hermitcard4494 Před 5 lety +1

      Also, BASIC BALANCING IN VIDEOGAMES. Being close is dangerous therefore the reward is higher(damage). Being far is less dangerous, therefore the reward is less. Thats why if you have Str 50 and Fth 50 and infuse Heavy or Lighting, Heavy is gonna have higher AR. Lighting Infusion are mean to give your Cleric(Fth 50 and low Str and Dex) a way to SAVE Thunders to use them on stronger enemies.

  • @ericksantiago2463
    @ericksantiago2463 Před 5 lety +199

    DO more Dark Souls lore analysis please! it so interesting

  • @apatheticdeity6030
    @apatheticdeity6030 Před 5 lety +16

    Finally!!! I was waiting for someone to explain this!!! All of my friends always say like "Oh why does DS1 spells are so powerful while DS3 spells suck." Now I can show then how good DS really is in lore and storytelling and even when it comes to playing the game it tells a very realistic story.

  • @Shadowmanfan1
    @Shadowmanfan1 Před 5 lety +41

    I would love a fromsoft game about the age of man/age of dark/whatever.

  • @unnoticed67
    @unnoticed67 Před 5 lety +154

    I like the shout out to VaatiVidya, he does great work with Dark Souls.

    • @pwnzor7922
      @pwnzor7922 Před 5 lety +2

      Do you remember the time when vaati stole from a smaller channel? it seems like you're picking the wrong person to support with this kind of accusation.

    • @pwnzor7922
      @pwnzor7922 Před 5 lety

      czcams.com/video/p4D5K8gF3A0/video.html

    • @cheeseintheair
      @cheeseintheair Před 5 lety +1

      Vaati steals all of his shit from 4chan.

    • @codylucynski5179
      @codylucynski5179 Před 5 lety +2

      Nigel how the fuck can you steal public lore?

    • @THExRISER
      @THExRISER Před 5 lety +2

      I thought those claims have already been proven to be wrong .

  • @KarKazul
    @KarKazul Před 5 lety +103

    in the same note, i always thought that the way the dragon stones functioned was similar to miracles, and the user uses their image of a dragon to transform into, explaining why it's diferent in every game, the protagonist uses the form of the dragon who gave the stone to him, it also explains why the dragon form in ds3 is so god damn awful (look wise) because there are no real dragons alive left (not counting ash dragons) only the wyverns.

    • @luketfer
      @luketfer Před 5 lety +25

      Well there is one Dragon left alive but he is hidden away at Worlds end in the ringed city. That is actually a fair point, people haven't SEEN a Dragon for god knows how long.
      DS1 had Gaping Dragon, the Everlasting Dragon Seethe and Kalameet, so there were still honest to goodness Dragons kicking around and in abundance.
      The only true dragon we see in Dark Souls 2 is Simh, who was locked away in that kingdom beneath the Earth, guarding the Sunken kings crown. Much of Dark Souls 2 seems to have been completely forgotten by the time of Dark Souls 3, even more so than the DS1. Implying that the Origin of the world and the time of the Gods is still partially known about, kept alive through religious text but the intervening history periods have long since been forgotten (apart from Lucatiel's name).
      Though it does seem the lands around that time actually survived long past Drangleic did. Mirrah armor speaks about knights being sent out as if it is a thing that happened recently. Forossa is still mentioned despite its destruction. It is just Drangleic which has been mostly forgot.
      Dark Souls 3 has no true dragons left as you mentioned and I dread to think how many actual cycles have passed since someone who wasn't a follower of the Dragon Covenant had seen an actual dragon (since the only time we see a true dragon is the massive one laying dead in the mountains there).
      Just like the Gods, the power of Dragons has started to slip from peoples grasp.

    • @heyimanameheyimalastname
      @heyimanameheyimalastname Před 5 lety

      That's actually a really interesting idea, I never thought of it like that!

    • @monkeycat6408
      @monkeycat6408 Před 5 lety

      Oh shit you are true! How did this not occur to me?!

    • @cxx23
      @cxx23 Před 5 lety

      @@luketfer Fantastic comment!

  • @Integer_Overload
    @Integer_Overload Před 5 lety +41

    "And saw that it was good" nice Creation reference, there.

  • @21stcenturystops59
    @21stcenturystops59 Před 4 lety +12

    Miyazaki: "Write that down!"

  • @AdamSmith-jb2lf
    @AdamSmith-jb2lf Před 5 lety +30

    What in the badass hell is that outro???

  • @XDarkAllNightX
    @XDarkAllNightX Před 5 lety +52

    Mandatory comment asking for collab with Vaatividya

    • @ShoddyCast
      @ShoddyCast  Před 5 lety +14

      If we can get the lore channel off the ground I totally want to do a Shoddycast-style Dark Souls lore series and he'd be a great researcher for it, ngl.

    • @JohnPeacekeeper
      @JohnPeacekeeper Před 5 lety +1

      P0LAROIID think of it this way:
      Prepare to Cry
      But with way, WAY more scenes acted out

    • @ThatRatBastard
      @ThatRatBastard Před 5 lety

      I want it.

  • @razorthereptilewyrm6750
    @razorthereptilewyrm6750 Před 5 lety +16

    All users of crucifix of the mad king would like to know your location

    • @Paradisio84
      @Paradisio84 Před 5 lety +1

      Buffed with dark weapon too 😎

  • @remnantryku7112
    @remnantryku7112 Před 5 lety +8

    Confirmed theory at the end: Austin chose to usurp the flame.

  • @Cryothia
    @Cryothia Před 5 lety +11

    I really hope that’s the reason Miracles suck. THAT is why we love Miyazaki’s games

  • @GB-sh9st
    @GB-sh9st Před 5 lety +26

    Although certain miracles are downright game-breakingly powerful...
    Second chance was a necessity to pvp in Demons, but it's weaker in later games.
    Darkmoon blade is always stronger than sorcery in every dark souls game tho... but that's direct from a god.
    Maybe he's right actually. Loved this and every shoddy vid; would love more on my favorite game series.

    • @oghaze9318
      @oghaze9318 Před 5 lety

      Garrett Butler Also miracle users get all the poise, PvP is hella easy when you use the right catalysts and rings but that's the problem, too much prep time for optimal damage

  • @SolutusEversol
    @SolutusEversol Před 4 lety +10

    Song name at end of video:
    Random Precision - Bryce Jacobs

  • @kirbs0001
    @kirbs0001 Před 5 lety +3

    I'd love to see your take on how long the age of fire has lasted.
    I'd also love to see if you can unravel the creation myth surrounding the age of fire. What were the lords before they found the lord souls? What are lord souls? Why were there only 4? What is the first flame? Why did it take an entire "age of ancients" for any of these things to be found and used?

  • @1Henrink
    @1Henrink Před 5 lety +62

    I have already watched every VaatiVydia multiple times, but Souls lore is NEVER enough

    • @ShoddyCast
      @ShoddyCast  Před 5 lety +14

      This is why I myself have watched Vaati like 100000 times. I can't get enough of this stuffffff. Souls lore is like a drug.

  • @moist-liquid9196
    @moist-liquid9196 Před 5 lety +28

    This month on... THE MAGIC!!!

  • @andrewbriggs3831
    @andrewbriggs3831 Před 5 lety +3

    come talk to me when a sorcery replenishes your entire healthbar

  • @D.H.1082
    @D.H.1082 Před 4 lety +15

    "Why does this mechanic suck suddenly?"
    "Lore."

  • @psychomammoth9640
    @psychomammoth9640 Před 5 lety +132

    Please do a video of Gwyn!

  • @0nearth418
    @0nearth418 Před 5 lety +43

    Great video! 10/10 would praise again

  • @kyleshank3411
    @kyleshank3411 Před 4 lety +2

    Actually can't get away from this video. I've watched it at least 15 times. Honestly it's quickly became one of my favorite videos here since it's so well thought out and about something so important and minute in a game that most if not all would simply skim over it. Those kinds of topics are always *much* more fascinating to watch

  • @yvindblff5628
    @yvindblff5628 Před 5 lety +10

    My god, that's kinda brilliant. Mad respect to the developers, if this is all true.

  • @subjectdelta7210
    @subjectdelta7210 Před 5 lety +23

    Praise the sun shoddy cast is alive

  • @hejgustavful
    @hejgustavful Před 5 lety +64

    These Rethinking videos are really good.

  • @azraelthevexing5655
    @azraelthevexing5655 Před 5 lety +2

    Amazing!!! This has changed my perspective of the game. I'd love to see more

  • @kuboskube
    @kuboskube Před měsícem

    It's videos like these that I love. I was having a conversation with someone when the topic of the original was brought up and that it's important to read literal translations for most of your study, and that reminded me of *this video* right here, so I had to come back and watch it.
    Austin, your work is incredible, and your content is perfect. Thanks for being such a cool dude.

  • @ImJustSofa
    @ImJustSofa Před 5 lety +354

    This video was legitimately AWFUL ;)

    • @ShoddyCast
      @ShoddyCast  Před 5 lety +45

      i c wut u did thar

    • @boi9942
      @boi9942 Před 5 lety +6

      i c u p

    • @arifhossain9751
      @arifhossain9751 Před 5 lety +7

      @@syaondri
      Awe full.
      Full of awe.
      Awesome.
      Quite a stretch... but i guess it works. Thank you for letting me ruin the joke for everyone.

    • @insaincaldo
      @insaincaldo Před 5 lety +2

      I was almost brought to my knees

    • @jackfoxx6351
      @jackfoxx6351 Před 5 lety +1

      awesome and epic are some of the words ill miss most
      its kinda funny to think awful and awesome were once the same thing

  • @benjalowiec7934
    @benjalowiec7934 Před 5 lety +12

    I have never played Dark Souls, but I love learning about the lore of the game. And I love the way you talk about it too

    • @ourlittleratrescueoklahoma7077
    • @theshrew2804
      @theshrew2804 Před 5 lety

      You should pick it up. Some may disagree, but I’d start with 3. The product is pretty solid and accessible. The difficulty gets ramped up as you go backwards due to the age of some of the systems at play. From a lore perspective though, it’s not necessary to play them in order. You’ll still get the same effect, you’ll just miss a couple subtle nods to the previous entries.

  • @ilikepie21234
    @ilikepie21234 Před 4 lety

    so sad there isn't more of this. Hope you guys make more videos soon!

  • @p3nguin0
    @p3nguin0 Před 5 lety +6

    I have a quicker theoretical explanation: Miracles are Jojo references to Hamon/Ripple. Both are the powers of the sun, represented as yellow-lightning arcing around the user or their weapons. There were no attack miracles in Demon's Souls[2009](save for Wrath of God), but when Dark Souls[2011] was being developed, Jojo's Bizzare Adventure[Manga 1987 to current and "Part 3" OVA 1993] was building momentum to have a new anime adaptation[Part 1 onward 2012].
    From Software has not shied away from manga/anime references in the Soulsbourne series. Example: Berserk[1989] which is both contemporary to and in the same demographic as Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
    Some variation of [Dragon Slayer] Greatsword is in Demon's Souls onwards, and Artorias and Forlorn are just cosplaying Guts' titular armor.
    Like the Jojo's series, Dark Souls' has shifted to throwing out Hamon/Miracles in favor of more explosions, spooky things, and Stands; which all use Hexes, Crystals, Pyromancy, etc. The one stand who uses lightning; RHCP, who is a weak sorta-henchman villain.

  • @xthugniifcent_9695
    @xthugniifcent_9695 Před 5 lety +28

    This makes me appreciate dark souls more

    • @placeholdername3818
      @placeholdername3818 Před 5 lety +1

      moviemaker2011z I can believe them making miracles weaker just for the sake of story because Miyazaki is running the show.

  • @almosteducatedmf8352
    @almosteducatedmf8352 Před 5 lety +38

    Man this video was a little *SHODDY*

  • @ocdnecro
    @ocdnecro Před 5 lety

    This is seriously one of the best videos, please make more .

  • @dylana9941
    @dylana9941 Před 2 lety

    Love your videos and still waiting on some more dark souls videos from you

  • @Victor-km6jm
    @Victor-km6jm Před 5 lety +19

    Dude, I'm sure hundreds of people have already commented this, but I am definitely ready for more dark souls videos.

  • @NightWatchersPet
    @NightWatchersPet Před 5 lety +10

    I couldn't click this one fast enough... ShoddyCast AND DarkSouls!
    Also, I agree - I love how the world is shown to be slowly crumbling to dust through the games

  • @thekingofcardboard
    @thekingofcardboard Před 5 lety +2

    We are very interested in that video you mentioned you had planned about Gwyn.

  • @TheOnlyMiolli
    @TheOnlyMiolli Před 5 lety

    Hey Austin! Great video! Also, I want to see all your dark souls videos :D You're my favorite theorist by far and all the videos you make are fantastic!

  • @TheT7770ify
    @TheT7770ify Před 5 lety +12

    I missed this series allot. I'm glad its back

  • @35threev35
    @35threev35 Před 5 lety +6

    Dude, I need more of your Dark Souls videos in my life. So good.

  • @chromaticitys.
    @chromaticitys. Před 5 lety +6

    Me: plays ds1-3 just to wait for elden ring
    Austin: 8 months ago of explaining how miracles suck?
    Me: really?

  • @Danika0Love
    @Danika0Love Před 9 měsíci

    Even knowing nothing about Dark Souls, I really enjoyed this episode. The way you describe the lore and the gameplay as an extension of the storytelling makes me want to learn more about the games.

  • @Holsp
    @Holsp Před 5 lety +32

    Everyone lives in peace until the fire nation started the age of fire

    • @ScarletRain_2967
      @ScarletRain_2967 Před 5 lety

      Claim by the ancient

    • @michaelweaver9360
      @michaelweaver9360 Před 5 lety

      A time between 10,00 and 1,000 years later came a cool dude, who kild an udder dude then toastied imself

  • @meepmorp3569
    @meepmorp3569 Před 5 lety +20

    I appreciate this. This is nice.

  • @NAWWMANNN
    @NAWWMANNN Před 5 lety

    Man, the last minute or so of this video...
    Fucking POWERFUL message delivery.
    Damn dude!
    Probably one of my favorite videos Austin has ever made, and in no small part because of those last few sentences.
    This video is well over a year old as I write this, but if Austin were to somehow see this comment, I would ask him to consider one thing.
    PLEASE make more stuff like this.
    Preferrably more Dark Souls related stuff, but I will never fail to watch anything this dude makes, regardless of subject matter.
    Bravo, Sir!
    Fucking BRAVO.

  • @roboshark4957
    @roboshark4957 Před 4 lety +1

    Revisited this video after playing all 3 dark souls, and honestly it just made me appreciate the storytelling even more. Love your videos and the games.

  • @lAquiliusl
    @lAquiliusl Před 5 lety +7

    Yes please do more videos! All your ideas sounded awesome!! Already can’t wait for them ^_^

  • @uvbe
    @uvbe Před 5 lety +9

    I didn't know that the lore of DS was so cool. Maybe I'll play it.

    • @GantaaOhime
      @GantaaOhime Před 5 lety +1

      Oh buddy. What a rabbit hole the lore of DS is. Probably one of the deepest game series in regards to lore. It doesn't so much as slap the player in the face with lore as much as it just drowns the world in it.

  • @DefiantPunk0810
    @DefiantPunk0810 Před 4 měsíci

    Yes! More well researched Dark Souls lore videos please! I love the Souls lore and can never get enough of theories and different perspectives on the more metaphor heavy parts of the storytelling, as well as just the raw history.

  • @magniusdovahquill2948
    @magniusdovahquill2948 Před 5 lety

    I love your guys lore videos. I subscribed originally because of your Elder Scrolls lore videos, but I've been watching some Dark Souls videos of late (though I haven't played the franchise) , and I have not been disappointed. Though dark, it is a deep thought-out and complex story. I might end up playing at sometime in the future. I love their indirect method of telling a story.

  • @iainhansen1047
    @iainhansen1047 Před 5 lety +38

    Do more videos on dark souls................
    NOW!

  • @milhaus924
    @milhaus924 Před 5 lety +14

    More dark souls lore please

  • @joethestrat
    @joethestrat Před 5 lety +10

    Wait until people figure out that if you decided to burn yourself at the end of DS1, you've become exactly (most of) what you've fought against the entire game. Artorius, Sif, Ornstein and Smough, Dark Sun Gwynevere, anything not demons/undead... You killed out of ignorance and now they aren't there to help you like they helped the individual you stole the flame from... which makes the Abyss happy. Simply because you acted without knowing what the consequences would be.
    Also, think about this. You aren't the Chosen Undead anymore. You're Gwyn's replacement, and all of this has happened before and several things in game tell you that you can't stop "it"... So eventually... Someone will come looking for you... It might even be exactly you, since time is fucked up in Dark Souls. We see that all over, look at Chester. Look at some NPC initial interactions (Big nice Mushroom in DLC).
    ;)

    • @slumberingember
      @slumberingember Před 5 lety +2

      Technically it is you. The soul of cinder has the skills abilities and powers of everyone who linked the fire. When you fight the soul of cinder you are essentially fighting your previous characters. In a messed up way I fought my dark souls 1 and 2 counter parts even though I played 3 first. As timeline was my 1 and 2 characters had "exsisted" despite me not playing them yet. It's really mind boggling to think about

  • @npc_N8
    @npc_N8 Před 4 lety +4

    Like every record the Smithsonian has confiscated regarding Giants...

  • @kyesickhead7008
    @kyesickhead7008 Před 5 lety +5

    09:17 As a Brasilian and a Science enthusiast... THAT FOKING HURTS DUDE!!!

  • @somerandomname3124
    @somerandomname3124 Před 5 lety +24

    Praise the *s u c c*

    • @ShoddyCast
      @ShoddyCast  Před 5 lety +5

      Okay but no joke my first version of this thumbnail LITERALLY said that.

    • @ShoddyCast
      @ShoddyCast  Před 5 lety +4

      I decided to just got with "suck" because this video. Ya know. Ain't actually about blowjobs and I didn't want to literally clickbait haha.

  • @transformerssurprise7563

    I’ve just recently started playing dark souls 3 and diving into the lore. I’m a huge fan of the implied narrative style of the game and I’ve been looking for exactly this kind of video. This was a wonderful insight and I appreciate your input. There are a lot of very half baked theories concerning but games and this was sublime. Thank you.

  • @FlyingWalnut
    @FlyingWalnut Před 5 lety +8

    The final minute or so of this video is so hype.
    What's the music?

    • @Meminjo
      @Meminjo Před 5 lety

      exp by bryce jacobs, starts at 1:30 in the song

    • @Danielsilva-sn1nw
      @Danielsilva-sn1nw Před 5 lety

      @@Meminjo it's that really the song? I just find a Baskett ball player

    • @Danielsilva-sn1nw
      @Danielsilva-sn1nw Před 5 lety

      @@Meminjo my dude I am still waiting for that music

    • @Meminjo
      @Meminjo Před 5 lety

      @@Danielsilva-sn1nw its literally on youtube, learn to do your own damn research or pay me to do it for you

    • @Danielsilva-sn1nw
      @Danielsilva-sn1nw Před 5 lety

      @@Meminjo YEY I have found it by my self, but I see that edited you comment.
      Sorry if I maid you mad, it wasn't my point.

  • @ThatZenDude
    @ThatZenDude Před 5 lety +10

    You might run a viable build and you can one shot an enemy but my faith is strong and my lightning is sparkly \[ T ]/

  • @Heulerado
    @Heulerado Před 5 lety +4

    Woah, I didn't expect this, but... I liked this video more than any VaatiVidya video.
    Great work! More, please!

  • @David-zq8sk
    @David-zq8sk Před 5 lety

    This makes a lot of sense, I never thought about it! Great vid, more dark souls please!

  • @joser.687
    @joser.687 Před 5 lety +1

    When the video ended i thought ´´Men, this video is amazing, i will subscribe´´
    then realized that I was already subscribed ... You are great
    by the way

  • @trashultra3747
    @trashultra3747 Před 5 lety +85

    I love Fallout. But let's be honest Dark Souls has THE ULTIMATE lore

    • @tata313155
      @tata313155 Před 5 lety +7

      @Kev_ Bot Berserk is a 30 y.o. manga, not a video game. Please stop mentioning the fact that you know about Berserk everywhere, we get it man

    • @13mrservon
      @13mrservon Před 5 lety +1

      Elder scrolls no?

    • @mehmetcaneren4042
      @mehmetcaneren4042 Před 5 lety +4

      all is cool and stuff but NOTHING can surpass the Lore of Dark Souls for me , a story that is hidden away from the eyes of a mercenary but only shown to the curious traveler.
      The story telling alone is a magnificent tool here, this video alone prooves that a game mechanic can be used for storytelling rather than explaining everything with pages upon pages of manga or the bad guy taking a 20 minute speech explaining his motives.
      Think about it , not even prince lothric who is one of the few bosses that actually speak to you explain why they won't sacrifice themselves to the first flame, you have to figure it out from in game story telling , item descriptions and character dialogue to realize that one of the scholars have explained to Prince lothric that flame is intended to die and expanding its age only expands the suffering.
      So please don't even mention garbage like Fallout and Berserk when comparing Lore, They are nowhere near the level of storytelling that Dark Souls is.

    • @wowoliwowol4702
      @wowoliwowol4702 Před 5 lety

      @@mehmetcaneren4042 you know dark souls is somewhat based on berserk
      maybe not the lore but the art style and how it tells its story

    • @Alexander59059
      @Alexander59059 Před 5 lety

      @Kev_ Bot, yeah thats what he said

  • @Tankifed
    @Tankifed Před 5 lety +3

    Our lord has come back with the lore

  • @jeffreybarker357
    @jeffreybarker357 Před 4 lety +1

    Degree in English here; loved your bit about semantic shift! Thank you!

  • @solaire9239
    @solaire9239 Před 5 lety +3

    With a decent level miracles are actually the strongest spells for PVE in dark souls 3 apart from a few bosses resistant to lightning. For PVP miracles, just like any other spell builds are complete trash, but they could be very effective if used in a hybrid build.

    • @mythshark409
      @mythshark409 Před 5 lety

      PRAISE BE FOR SOLAIRE HAS JOINED THE COMMENT SECTION!!!!

  • @RagingWildcat
    @RagingWildcat Před 5 lety +19

    Please tell us the name of the song at the end so we don't turn hollow trying to find it.

    • @MrAbawmidabull
      @MrAbawmidabull Před 5 lety +4

      But if you reach your goal you turn hollow. Because you will have lost purpose. And having a purpose is the only thing that prevents you from going hollow.

    • @alexpell99
      @alexpell99 Před 5 lety +3

      Bryce Jacobs - Random Precision

    • @HeadlessEmu418
      @HeadlessEmu418 Před 5 lety +1

      Onwards toward our next purpose!:)

    • @postbubevaloran1170
      @postbubevaloran1170 Před 4 lety

      @@alexpell99 on spotify exp if you tryna find it there

  • @cheeselover626
    @cheeselover626 Před 5 lety +5

    In less than 1 minute into the video you used the word shoddy legitimately. Please keep that up with every video. I beg you.

  • @CrazyGrayHare
    @CrazyGrayHare Před 5 lety +1

    Amazing video. I normally watch Vattividya for Dark Souls lore related videos but I dare say this is on par with his videos

  • @everlyscut9788
    @everlyscut9788 Před 3 lety

    I finally found your channel Austin! Finally!

  • @KaspersMC
    @KaspersMC Před 5 lety +3

    missing your Fresh Energy & YELLING! ; )
    ANYWAY! thanks for the Video

  •  Před 5 lety +139

    Do you guys think that Bloodborne is the world in the Age of Darkness? Or would it be a totally different age? The Age of Blood for example? ^^

    • @MarkosDantes
      @MarkosDantes Před 5 lety +59

      It's actually implied that bloodborne takes place in the age of the deep that Saint Aldrich prophesied.
      Whether that's actually the age of darkness or not is up to interpretation, however.
      I've also seen theories that bloodborne takes place in the painted world made from the dark soul that is created by the painter girl, but I'm not sure how much stock I'd put into that.

    • @lordpepper6932
      @lordpepper6932 Před 5 lety +7

      I dont think so there is way to many deep and abyssal referances in bloodborne, good idea tho. I believe it's just another world no matter how many conspiracies around the internet say they are the same

    • @matijanikolic8768
      @matijanikolic8768 Před 5 lety +3

      Bladnorn and darksols are not in the seam univorse do watch vativideo he expleans it

    • @lordpepper6932
      @lordpepper6932 Před 5 lety +6

      @@TemporalandReaty they are differant universes Miazaki said so himself

    • @TheJumpManiac
      @TheJumpManiac Před 5 lety +1

      Honestly, I've seen another thing before that I kinda feel may be the reality of it, which regardless of what Miyazaki may have said, I feel the reasoning behind what was said was at least partly because Sony owns Bloodborne and the other game I'll be mentioning here.
      Bloodborne and Dark Souls are opposite endings for the game that came before them, Demon's Souls, with Bloodborne being one ending of Demon's Souls and Dark Souls being the other ending.
      That was the gist of it anyway, in reality unless Sony gives up the license to both Demon's Souls and Bloodborne and we get a straight up "Yeah, they're all connected" or "No, they're really not connected" from FromSoft, we can't say for certain.

  • @spacemonkey1386
    @spacemonkey1386 Před 5 lety

    Great video, awsome editing, and wonderful topic...please sir may I have some more?

  • @SamsarasArt
    @SamsarasArt Před 5 lety

    I really like how you analyze stuff Austin :)

  • @ricardojuliani6722
    @ricardojuliani6722 Před 5 lety +119

    can you say "better than game theory"

    • @ForeverLaxx
      @ForeverLaxx Před 5 lety +6

      I could, but you couldn't hear it over all the shouting.

    • @urahara64360
      @urahara64360 Před 5 lety +5

      It's because mat pat is probably burned out. His last video was just a random history lesson that killed the little interest I had in assassin's creed

    • @Ginrikuzuma
      @Ginrikuzuma Před 5 lety +3

      For about 2 years by now if not more

  • @jameslegrand848
    @jameslegrand848 Před 5 lety +8

    PRAISE THE SHODDY !!!!!!!!
    🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @khellson6032
    @khellson6032 Před 5 lety

    Gosh darn
    You blew my mind with knowledge that I never thought of receiving

  • @jonathandorozowsky4005

    This is a fantastic video. Great work!