Want some good Aux lights out that way at night. Was on a group ride there last year as sweep. A guy split his tyre at Gurnang and we spent 2 hours patching it up so he could ride out. Didn't get moving again until just before dark and had to put his bike back to Goulburn. Dodging many roos, wallabys and foxes on the way. Time for some offroad tyres, and more importantly, offroad boots! Lucky the damage was minimal!
im glad i watched your video you have given me a nice day trip i live about 1/2 hour from mittagong and i hope you have changed your tyres to ones that are better suited for off road keep the videos coming there good to watch
Hi mate - nice channel! Another Sydney guy here, similar vintage. The guy over the cliff very lucky to be alive, hey? I've been riding with mates and something similar happened to one of them, heli flight for that one too. I was the first on the scene and it was a sickening feeling knowing he was over the edge. That little "off" of yours must have been a worrisome moment. Just tell people you had a sudden fit of curiosity about how hard the road was! Shame you weren't aware about the road back along the dam not being open (it never has, for the risk of idiots contaminating Sydney's water supply - makes sense!). I guess just because there's a road on a map doesn't mean it's open to everyone. I also made a comment on the Murrays Run clip re Hungry Creek. I've had a Tiger 1050 Sport for a few years but this week I picked up a CRF300L Rally, the lure of the dirt was too strong!
Thanks mate, appreciate the comment. Channel is a lot of fun but sure does take a while to edit the videos. Some good ones coming. I got a lot luckier than the other guy, but still tore the MCL in my left knee which has taken about 3 months to heal. Still, could be worse!
Great video please continue the great work, as a Sydney resident that ia just starting to get involved in riding (crf250l) it's nice to see these types of riding so close to home.
Excellent video, thanks for sharing. I usually ride alone on my africa twin and the excitement of going fast in the dirt is really powerful, specially on that bike. We have to be very careful, specially when riding alone in remote areas. A small mistake can be very costly. Get better soon mate!
Thank you very much for sharing this video. I consider it one of the very best I've seen as I do my research into my Tiger 900RP acquisition. Your video is a great reality check to balance the many videos which show just the fun stuff. I will do my best to remember the lesson you learned the hard way. I'm usually out on my own so its not hard to picture being in a similar situation. Thanks again.
Thank you, I really appreciate that. One thing I am learning is that you only need to ride as hard as you’re prepared to ride. motorcycling is dangerous, but it is 10 times safer if you are careful.
Like the honesty that we all make mistakes and hopefully won't repeat them. Love your videos and rides around NSW. Hope you are now all mended and ready to go again. Stay safe and shinny side up.
How can you possibly say that he is "ok" when we can clearly see that his knee is buggered, enough that it protrudes outward when he puts weight on it. This looks like a a complete disaster, crashing in the evening, alone, on street tires. Lots of luck going on in this so called adventure. Wow two blatant fails from two adventure riders in one afternoon, on one road. Imagine all the other countless injury related drops and such going on throughout the world each minute of the day...hundreds up on hundreds.....This ADV riding fad is pretty high injury per km if you ask me. Probably less injuries and crashing going on the the MX circuits etc. Just saying.....
@@greyfisher3897 I believe that you misread my comment mate, cause I said I was glad that he got home ok, not that he was "ok". I have often ridden the same road, which bypasses Goulburn and gets me to Taralga via Wombeyan Caves, and while not super remote getting Ambo'd out would take hours, and having his bike retrieved wouldn't have been cheap, which would have been even worse on the firetrail shortcut he took and crashed on. I suspect you're Aussie so you know that most of Australia's roads are unpaved once you leave the cities and big coastal towns and are not specific adventure roads like American BDR's, they are just good ol' Aussie roads that get us to get where we are going, since they are the only way to travel unless you fly. Speaking of flying, it reminds me of a crop-sprayer pilot mate of mine who maintains that, "any landing that you can walk away from is a good landing"! And while our friend here didn't actually walk away, he was able to get himself home on his bike. Cheers...
@@zzzsydneyhom1379 I suppose I was a little hasty, but...he got home, but was not OK. I comment often on the ADV videos, the ones with crashes that are brushed off as "part of it", and getting back on when I heal up etc. I just don't get it. He hurt his knee....without one working properly you are a cripple. The ADV world downplays injury like I have never seen. I appreciate your comment/analogy with a landing of a plane...your made it down..thats all that matters. Well...I guess, but that only goes so far, and it is a little apples and oranges. Bikes fly, and of course if you land on two wheels as opposed to your head...that would apply, but still apples to oranges as we have no wings....and aren't flying.....stating the obvious. No I am Canadian. We have vast back country, and the risk of having to walk out is always in my prep list...ie I bring walkout shoes, and a back pack style luggage if necessary, a tarp, and the ability to make a fire etc. Its a risk riding alone, I do it, more often than not...safer to ride alone away from other peoples mistakes....a catch 22. I appreciate your reply, I am trying to create discussion, maybe this isn't the best venue, but I search "ADV crashes" on you tube out of interest in the "new" sport. I ride...seasoned championed enduro, instructed, all that BS. I study this ADV world and notice the casual crashing is part of it, and find it interesting...I find it a bit weird to be honest, that a knee injury is shrugged off....I would be seriously contemplating where I went wrong if I crashed like that....on a road. I would also be seriously contemplating the fact that he passed a guy who drove off a cliff...on a flat serviced road...on exactly the same bike.....I think there is a clue in that event that went right over his head....birds of a feather. Dudes riding the same bike, the same road...and both completely over their heads skill wise, and relying on pure luck, and helicopters. I like Adam Reimann....and intellectual approach to riding...using your brain to make intelligent decisions is the only solution to this odd motorcycle cultural phenomenon. Crashing with injury and accepting the risk, instead of "calculatiing" the risk....and making every effort to not crash. The other day I say an Amercian video same thing. crashed out "going for it" up a hill, crushed his foot, and compared the crushing to the last time he crushed it.....the guy was only in his 30's....I replied in a similar fashion, and he was decent about it, and I also referred him to ARiemann. Easily the best teacher of ADV riding, hands down, on you tube, possilby the planet. cheers.
@@greyfisher3897 Thanks for your thoughtful reply Grey and sorry to mistake you for an Aussie. I also agree that ARiemann is a next level rider and teacher and I too frequent his page and always learn something valuable. I suspect that in both of these crashes on the same well serviced road were the result of excess speed and or lack of concentration. Modern tricked up "Adventure Bikes" like the Tiger 900 have so many rider aids like Ride Modes, Stability Control, ABS etc. that I believe that it gives many riders overconfidence that the bike will always get them out of trouble. This can indeed occur but more likely on-road and not so much on the dirt, where no amount of computer wizardry can overcome poor riding or poor choices of line, speed, tyres etc... I'm still riding, mostly alone in my mid 70's, and not only do I not want to have to walk out of the bush, I'm not so sure how far I'd get, so I ride careful and slow. I ride alone mostly so I can ride my own ride at my own pace instead of feeling pressured to keep up especially when I'm getting a bit weary. You and I are lucky to have beautiful countries to ride in. In Oz we can ride all year round but the summer heat gets oppressive and a crash or even a breakdown can be iffy, since you can only carry so much water before the weight becomes an issue. I spent some time in South Eastern Canada in my younger days and thought that you guys got the best of the North American continent... except in winter. Stay safe mon ami.
At the risk of sounding condescending, I would hope that some major lessons learned on this episode are: - Do not ride alone in the bush. Find a buddy or riding club. - In remote areas where there is likely no cell phone service, be prepared for possible isolation with first aid, water, etc. and especially a backup plan. - Where the chance of encountering ad hoc help is greatly reduced, let someone else know where you are going and what the expected return time will be. - Avoiding exceeding one's physical capabilities especially if not in a training regimen. Never keep pushing on without having an initial riding plan that is rational, and adjust when necessary. - Carry and utilize the right equipment for the job. Street tires on rugged terrain greatly increases the chance for a crash. Don't rely on the bike to be always reliable when heading for the outback. Have contingency plans. Sorry to sound preachy, but even though you didn't go over a cliff it seems to me you could have been almost in a similar situation much further off the beaten path without the ability to carry on by yourself. I know this from my own stupid past mistakes and poor judgement in my younger days of off-road riding. Other vids I see in this realm, like Itchy Boots for example, give me a sense of elevated preparedness and training. A day ride can easily put one in situation of being in over their head without those elements on the table as well. I love my Tiger 900 GT Pro, but hope to always have a deep respect for any risk that is associated with enjoying the fun of riding it. Peace✌🏿, and I enjoyed the video, otherwise.
@@australianadv I ride on my own mainly and always have the InReach as well as water, food (OSM bars or similar), first aid and a tarp in case I have to do an overnighter unexpectedly. Fuel bags are useful too. Had a similar situation once where I went down a 50km track only to find gate locked and no way around. Extra fuel got me back. You have a really nice demeanour too, I really enjoyed your delivery. Sub from me.
Hi, I noticed you had the stock tires on. Maybe you should buy more offroad tiers so you get much more grip when you're offroading. I'm considering the 900gt or pro, not decided yet. Great video, hope you're knee is healing well.
Thanks mate, I appreciate the well wishes. The knee is back to 99% but it was worth it for the adventure :-) I have Continental TKC80 tires on now which have been amazing. I will probably go Motoz next
Thanks for the video,. hope you get better soon . great bike, [nice colour] Ihave a Tiger 900gt ,there are not many roads here in the Netherlands where you can ride off-road
Thanks, appreciate that. I did think about the GT, I think it's a bit better in the twisties and it can still do a gravel road better than most road bikes.
Hi, how’s the leg? Hope your OK. Back on yet? Great clips, I got here from the Triumph App connection one you did. I just gave up. Loved your Walcha to Glouster; I’ll be doing that for sure. I’m just back on after months of recovery from a foot accident. I’m taking it pretty easy I can tell you. I was a bit weary looking at your speedo right before your accident. I have read a few comments as I didn’t want to repeat; so have you got the off road tyres yet? Anyway I’m also a proud Tiger 900 GT Pro owner. I have the Gearne SG12s too but like you can’t get them to work on the gear lever and have cranked it all the way up. I’m investigating a smaller rod to the (auto shifter) gear box. I wish you all the best and hope to see you on the road. E.
Hi mate, thanks for the comment. The leg is pretty much back to 100%. I've since learned the most important thing you can do is just don't go so fast. I sold the SG12s, just too big, but I might get some AlpineStar tech7s. Will have to test before I buy though. I've since got Continental TKC80 tyres which have been brilliant, but I kept my old tyres in case I want to do some distance touring. I've done about 5000kms on the TCK80s and the rear is 30%, front about 70%. Better than I thought I'd get.
Great video. Plenty of drama, and well shot. Cheers. l guess a bivvy bag is a good idea as well, for emergencies overnighters - you might already carry one. Hope leg gets better soon.
Thanks mate, already on the mend. I'm definitely getting knee braces before I go off road next time. Can't beleive it never occurred to me before. Too used to road riding, really need proper motocross gear.
This has convinced me never to get on a bike! Also, yes, there is no access from Yerranderie on, its all water catchment exclusion zone and has been for about 50 years or more. Otherwise this would be one of the most popular loops in existence. But you know that now.
You don’t know what you don’t know eh? At least I seem to have recovered more or less 100%. Biking is definitely a whole different game to regular 4x4, you can actually be physically injured, but somehow there’s nothing quite like it
Hi, I admire your tenacity mate. Hope the knee heals fully, did you find out if the other guy was ok after his accident? I have just found you in my recommendations so have subbed you and hit the bell so I won't miss your future travels. Take care mate, Norm from England UK 😉
Thanks Norm, appreciate the sub! I don't know how the other guy faired, hopefully one the guys he was with will find this video and let us know. I'm pretty sure he was stable, but with a few breaks (wrist and knee?). Very rough accident.
Um, as a local it is Bull e o. Not rhyming with Jullio. Just in case no one has mentioned this ....From Yerranderie east to the west side of Warragamba dam is not open to the public, is gated/signposted and striclty off limits to public access and if you are caught there - very heavy fines. In the vicinity of tens of thousands of dollars. Sydney Water use trail cameras a lot and have rangers. Any roads on the map that start with a W are Sydney Water - old MWSD&B roads. Yerranderie is one way in and same way back out. Google maps shouldn't be used for these areas - or check and then double check. Same coming in from the Oaks side. No access. The long way around. Anywhere near water storage around Sydney, Illawarra and Central Coast the tracks are off limits - for very good reason.
Thanks mate! I use a GoPro Hero 10 Black on a helmet chin mount, and for the helicopter rescue used my iPhone 13 Pro. The pro is handy because it has the 3X lens.
The whole point of a bike that expensive is - to relax doesn’t matter if it’s getting dark or it’s going to storm and turn the track to slop - that’s why we pay the bike fukn money for the reliability and that it gets us there safe -
@@australianadv To be fare the roads around every water supply in Sydney are no go zones and have been for many many years so im surprised you expected to be able to get through. A little research would have shown that.
The best tool I’ve found is downloading the NSW Topo map layer downloaded into Gaia GPS. You can see a little icon showing if the gate is locked or not.
It appears that your leg protection is little more than ankle height. Can I suggest a pair of enduro/MX style boots ? Glad it wasn't a serious fall. Did you go back to see what caused it ?
LOL I know they aren’t the most protective boots, and I have seen my own shinbone before, so probably should pay more attention to it. :-) I did have some Gaerne SG-12s which are an amazing boot, but they were a bit too bulky and I couldn’t get my toe under the gear shifter easily. I might look at some Alpine star tech 7s
Hi. Hope you're on the mend. Shame we don't bounce as well as we used to! I'm just considering the Tiger 900 Rally Pro to replace my CB 500 X so I'm following your (mis)adventures as part of my research; many Thanks for posting your travels. Glad to see the tiger can withstand the ocassional drop 😉Did you find out whether the guy that took the big dive was OK? Best wishes from the UK
Thanks mate, appreciate that. Definitely on the mend, and have a few good rides planned. I have had a CB500X in the past, still have a soft spot for it but the the Tiger is a whole other level. I don't know how the other guy ended up, I know they were flying him to one of the larger local hospitals. Poor guy, the video doesn't convey just how far he'd fallen, it's amazing he survived.
@@australianadv Here's hoping he wasn't too badly injured. It's a very sobering sight to ride past a bike accident, let alone half way down a mountain!Safe travels....
what a great adventure! some have commented in favor of you getting knee braces to protect against future injuries, and while I am not against knee braces, I think the best way to protect yourself from a crash is better tires. I think your crash was caused at least in part by the OEM Battlax Adventure A41 tires you have on your bike. If you are going to go off road again (which you should), then you need more off road oriented tires. I am pretty sure that had you had appropriate tires, you wouldn't have crashed! Since you ride a lot of road miles, your new tires need to be decent on the road also. with that in mind, I have been very happy with a Motoz GPS front / Tractionator Adventure rear combo. If you don't like that, I would check out the new Metzler Karoo 4, Pirelli Rally STR, or Dunlop TrailMax Mission. All these will give you way better traction off road than your current OEM Battlax Adventure A41 tires! and all the models I suggested have decent street characteristics! I know your current tires are hardly worn, so replacing them might seem like a waste, but if new tires can prevent another similar crash, then new tires will result in a huge savings! It would have been interesting to see the crash video - will you be posting it too? Thanks for sharing - Cheers
Thanks for the advice, I"m definitely looking to get some decent off road tyres very soon. Unfortunately I don't have footage of the crash, my GoPro was set to record the 15 seconds before hitting record, but by the time I came to my senses after the crash more than 15 seconds must have passed because the footage starts with me already on the ground.
I agree. Tires are the one thing, no one should ever skimp on. I love how people will buy trash tires for a new vehicle, and say their truck sucks in the snow or something. Its just mind boggling to me how stupid some people are (not saying that applies here, just a general statement of what I see on a daily basis).
Having never had any success with my iPhone to sync with the My Triumph app, I was confused just what was on your TFT. Wow! Navigation! Come on Triumph. Fix the app!!!!
I had the same trouble but it worked after version 1.2.5. Check your version by opening the app, clicking that menu button at top left, go to settings then scroll right down. One good thing about the app is it will record your ride, so you can download it as a GPX file later.
Ha ha , Ive just binge watched pretty much your whole channel. When I saw Bullio Pass in the title of this one, I couldn't resist as well. I have done this and other loops from the Albion Park Macquarie pass end many times. After your intro when google told you you could go through a waterboard gate, I was interested, because I knew that gate is never open and fuel can become an issue. Wow didnt you have quite the adventure. Here's a link to our yerranderie adventure if you've got time, I got a flat and that was no fun on a T7, with factory rubber still on the rim. Not sure if you made it into the town, but worth going back if you didnt as you know its a great ride. czcams.com/video/_ghwoRexZM0/video.html
Awesome, so glad you liked it. I'm just watching your trip along Bullio pass that's blocked with road works. Getting some flash backs with the scenery, great trip.
@australianadv live traffic app has it open now, was closed for quite a while. I did notice some new roadworks in your vid so that must have been it. I ride the same sort of trails as you and always alone. You've convinced me to buy an epirb. Cheers
@@lowend5566 either that or a sat phone like the InReach Mini. I haven’t used one but apparently you can press an SOS button which is similar to an epirb but you also have the option of texting back and forth
Thanks. Yeah from a content point of view it would have been good, I'm just glad I had the presence of mind to press record after the crash. Shame the GoPro wasn't set to 30 seconds pre-record. Mind you, I don't plan on repeating the experience!
unfortunate... but we are the inventor and creator of our own misfortune in this case for sure... perhaps some decent riding boots and knee braces would be a good idea as an investment the next ride . heal soon.
Thanks mate. Yeah I was pretty well protected for road riding, Gaerne boots, rip stop jeans with knee pads, jacket, gloves, full face helmet. I think I’ll need more motocross type gear to be safer next time if I want to hit the dirt that hard
Another fine example of ADV riders cashing out an injuring themselves seriously, relying on helicopters and such, and also relying on "luck". A blown knee joint, ligament, tendon whatever...then you talk lightly about getting out again once its healed.....this is terrible example of motorcycling. Many many mistakes led to this near disaster....many lessons "learned" maybe....Tune in to AReimann1 fellas and learn before you head out, the do's and dont's .....
I’m sure Adam Riemann has had plenty of crashes himself, and luck would have played a part in the outcome of all of them. Motorcycling is a dangerous activity, but so is life, and they are plenty of less interesting ways you can be a burden on society.
@@australianadv Pure nonsense, a rider in complete denial over his head. Adam most certainly has had crashes, no where in my comment did I suggest otherwise. What I did suggest was that this new adv market has attracted an alarming number of riders going out on heavy bikes and hurting themselves badly, having to close roads, and require helicopter rescues...over and over....and over again. It was not an odd observation that you made on that one single day, passing a rider on the exact same bike crashing badly...like you did....on a flat road. Adam crashes jumping logs, racing at extreme speeds, competing etc. And even then the rate of crashes you would see at your local track is "without a doubt' less than the current rate of adv riders crashing out, dropping, endlessly, repeatedly, and hurting themselves inevtitably...as you said. To suggest in your comment that I need to be informed that motorcycling is dangerous etc etc, is a repeated comment pulled from the great book of motorcycling myths. Riding a hourse is dangerous, so is hiking in the mountains...so is ice hockey, and rugby. The point your missing in my contribution to your crash and injury video, is that if you learn from Adam instead of from nearly breaking your knee in half, that would be a better approach. Yes motorcycling in dangerous....duh.....but if you listen to Adam you would learn that intellectually, they are not dangerous...if you apply more thought, and less experimenting and learning from your mistakes attitude, all that will ever get you is an injury...that you may not ever recover from....whether its psychologically or physically. I say this not as grumpy comment, but as an experienced, championed, veteran off road and on road rider since 1979 to today, and spent 10 years as an actually certified instructor I ride two bikes, and have not crashed, dropped, or had to learn from an injury since I was in my 20's and I am 60. T7 and DRZE....simple as that. You can take my comment for what it is.....I have a slight limp stemming from a minor knee injury when I was mid 20's, my physiotherpist at the time predicted that limp, and low and behold it was true. Remind yourself mate, that injuries are permanent...and crashes need to be avoided at all costs.....ADV riders are showing a poor attitude, and take crashing...and the crashbar phenomena a little too lightly. Note on Adams bikes....no crash bars...and no bark busters....etc Because he knows they are not a good idea, and not needed. Crash bars, and bark busters...actually make injury risk go up...if you "think" about it.....Your welcome from Canada...good luck with your dangerous experiment.
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha lack of experience, a beginner in off-roading, being alone, excessive speed, lack of focus and impatience are all factors that lead to accidents.
Great adventure thanks for taking us along. Pleasure to watch your narration 🏆
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great editing, great sound, great camera, calm voice, nice scenery and a proper adventure! u got a new sub !
Thank you so much, that's great feedback.
Want some good Aux lights out that way at night.
Was on a group ride there last year as sweep. A guy split his tyre at Gurnang and we spent 2 hours patching it up so he could ride out.
Didn't get moving again until just before dark and had to put his bike back to Goulburn.
Dodging many roos, wallabys and foxes on the way.
Time for some offroad tyres, and more importantly, offroad boots! Lucky the damage was minimal!
Thanks mate, I've got both since then (boots and tyres). It's a surprisingly isolated and dark part of the world, that's for sure.
im glad i watched your video you have given me a nice day trip i live about 1/2 hour from mittagong and i hope you have changed your tyres to ones that are better suited for off road keep the videos coming there good to watch
cheers mate appreciate that. I switched to Continental TKC80s and they are great
Hi mate - nice channel! Another Sydney guy here, similar vintage.
The guy over the cliff very lucky to be alive, hey? I've been riding with mates and something similar happened to one of them, heli flight for that one too. I was the first on the scene and it was a sickening feeling knowing he was over the edge.
That little "off" of yours must have been a worrisome moment. Just tell people you had a sudden fit of curiosity about how hard the road was!
Shame you weren't aware about the road back along the dam not being open (it never has, for the risk of idiots contaminating Sydney's water supply - makes sense!). I guess just because there's a road on a map doesn't mean it's open to everyone.
I also made a comment on the Murrays Run clip re Hungry Creek. I've had a Tiger 1050 Sport for a few years but this week I picked up a CRF300L Rally, the lure of the dirt was too strong!
Thanks mate, appreciate the comment. Channel is a lot of fun but sure does take a while to edit the videos. Some good ones coming.
I got a lot luckier than the other guy, but still tore the MCL in my left knee which has taken about 3 months to heal. Still, could be worse!
Just found your channel and congrats on great content and commentary. …. Keep up the great work!
Thank you, much appreciated!
Gday stubbled across your channel and mighty impressed man, easy to listen and follow along. Far out man what a ride this was sheesh!!! New sub!
Thanks mate, your content is incredibly professional. Just subbed as well.
Great video please continue the great work, as a Sydney resident that ia just starting to get involved in riding (crf250l) it's nice to see these types of riding so close to home.
Thanks for the encouragement. I’m planning to make lots more videos.
I was watching one of your other videos he's asking about tires Dunlap trailmax Tire thanks for your videos mate
Thanks for the info mate
Excellent video, thanks for sharing.
I usually ride alone on my africa twin and the excitement of going fast in the dirt is really powerful, specially on that bike.
We have to be very careful, specially when riding alone in remote areas. A small mistake can be very costly.
Get better soon mate!
Thanks mate. It is certainly riskier going alone but it’s a good feeling just exploring where you want to go. Both are good in their way
Thank you very much for sharing this video. I consider it one of the very best I've seen as I do my research into my Tiger 900RP acquisition. Your video is a great reality check to balance the many videos which show just the fun stuff. I will do my best to remember the lesson you learned the hard way. I'm usually out on my own so its not hard to picture being in a similar situation. Thanks again.
Thank you, I really appreciate that.
One thing I am learning is that you only need to ride as hard as you’re prepared to ride. motorcycling is dangerous, but it is 10 times safer if you are careful.
Like the honesty that we all make mistakes and hopefully won't repeat them. Love your videos and rides around NSW. Hope you are now all mended and ready to go again. Stay safe and shinny side up.
Thanks mate, I really appreciate that.
If one thing motorcycling does is keep you humble, none of us are that tough when we hit the deck :-)
@australianadv yes indeed, it bloody hurts.
Bad luck mate! Glad you didn't end up like the first bloke and got home ok...
What a day!!!
Thanks mate! It was quite a day, I definitely was lucky to get off as lightly as I did.
How can you possibly say that he is "ok" when we can clearly see that his knee is buggered, enough that it protrudes outward when he puts weight on it. This looks like a a complete disaster, crashing in the evening, alone, on street tires. Lots of luck going on in this so called adventure. Wow two blatant fails from two adventure riders in one afternoon, on one road. Imagine all the other countless injury related drops and such going on throughout the world each minute of the day...hundreds up on hundreds.....This ADV riding fad is pretty high injury per km if you ask me. Probably less injuries and crashing going on the the MX circuits etc. Just saying.....
@@greyfisher3897 I believe that you misread my comment mate, cause I said I was glad that he got home ok, not that he was "ok".
I have often ridden the same road, which bypasses Goulburn and gets me to Taralga via Wombeyan Caves, and while not super remote getting Ambo'd out would take hours, and having his bike retrieved wouldn't have been cheap, which would have been even worse on the firetrail shortcut he took and crashed on.
I suspect you're Aussie so you know that most of Australia's roads are unpaved once you leave the cities and big coastal towns and are not specific adventure roads like American BDR's, they are just good ol' Aussie roads that get us to get where we are going, since they are the only way to travel unless you fly.
Speaking of flying, it reminds me of a crop-sprayer pilot mate of mine who maintains that, "any landing that you can walk away from is a good landing"! And while our friend here didn't actually walk away, he was able to get himself home on his bike. Cheers...
@@zzzsydneyhom1379 I suppose I was a little hasty, but...he got home, but was not OK. I comment often on the ADV videos, the ones with crashes that are brushed off as "part of it", and getting back on when I heal up etc. I just don't get it. He hurt his knee....without one working properly you are a cripple. The ADV world downplays injury like I have never seen. I appreciate your comment/analogy with a landing of a plane...your made it down..thats all that matters. Well...I guess, but that only goes so far, and it is a little apples and oranges. Bikes fly, and of course if you land on two wheels as opposed to your head...that would apply, but still apples to oranges as we have no wings....and aren't flying.....stating the obvious. No I am Canadian. We have vast back country, and the risk of having to walk out is always in my prep list...ie I bring walkout shoes, and a back pack style luggage if necessary, a tarp, and the ability to make a fire etc. Its a risk riding alone, I do it, more often than not...safer to ride alone away from other peoples mistakes....a catch 22. I appreciate your reply, I am trying to create discussion, maybe this isn't the best venue, but I search "ADV crashes" on you tube out of interest in the "new" sport. I ride...seasoned championed enduro, instructed, all that BS. I study this ADV world and notice the casual crashing is part of it, and find it interesting...I find it a bit weird to be honest, that a knee injury is shrugged off....I would be seriously contemplating where I went wrong if I crashed like that....on a road. I would also be seriously contemplating the fact that he passed a guy who drove off a cliff...on a flat serviced road...on exactly the same bike.....I think there is a clue in that event that went right over his head....birds of a feather. Dudes riding the same bike, the same road...and both completely over their heads skill wise, and relying on pure luck, and helicopters. I like Adam Reimann....and intellectual approach to riding...using your brain to make intelligent decisions is the only solution to this odd motorcycle cultural phenomenon. Crashing with injury and accepting the risk, instead of "calculatiing" the risk....and making every effort to not crash. The other day I say an Amercian video same thing. crashed out "going for it" up a hill, crushed his foot, and compared the crushing to the last time he crushed it.....the guy was only in his 30's....I replied in a similar fashion, and he was decent about it, and I also referred him to ARiemann. Easily the best teacher of ADV riding, hands down, on you tube, possilby the planet. cheers.
@@greyfisher3897 Thanks for your thoughtful reply Grey and sorry to mistake you for an Aussie. I also agree that ARiemann is a next level rider and teacher and I too frequent his page and always learn something valuable. I suspect that in both of these crashes on the same well serviced road were the result of excess speed and or lack of concentration. Modern tricked up "Adventure Bikes" like the Tiger 900 have so many rider aids like Ride Modes, Stability Control, ABS etc. that I believe that it gives many riders overconfidence that the bike will always get them out of trouble. This can indeed occur but more likely on-road and not so much on the dirt, where no amount of computer wizardry can overcome poor riding or poor choices of line, speed, tyres etc...
I'm still riding, mostly alone in my mid 70's, and not only do I not want to have to walk out of the bush, I'm not so sure how far I'd get, so I ride careful and slow. I ride alone mostly so I can ride my own ride at my own pace instead of feeling pressured to keep up especially when I'm getting a bit weary. You and I are lucky to have beautiful countries to ride in. In Oz we can ride all year round but the summer heat gets oppressive and a crash or even a breakdown can be iffy, since you can only carry so much water before the weight becomes an issue. I spent some time in South Eastern Canada in my younger days and thought that you guys got the best of the North American continent... except in winter.
Stay safe mon ami.
brings back memories from the eighties & nineties riding the IT 250 thru that way, great country
Great country alright. I’d have been on a YZ80 in those days :-)
nice work mate
Thank you! Cheers!
At the risk of sounding condescending, I would hope that some major lessons learned on this episode are:
- Do not ride alone in the bush. Find a buddy or riding club.
- In remote areas where there is likely no cell phone service, be prepared for possible isolation with first aid, water, etc. and especially a backup plan.
- Where the chance of encountering ad hoc help is greatly reduced, let someone else know where you are going and what the expected return time will be.
- Avoiding exceeding one's physical capabilities especially if not in a training regimen. Never keep pushing on without having an initial riding plan that is rational, and adjust when necessary.
- Carry and utilize the right equipment for the job. Street tires on rugged terrain greatly increases the chance for a crash. Don't rely on the bike to be always reliable when heading for the outback. Have contingency plans.
Sorry to sound preachy, but even though you didn't go over a cliff it seems to me you could have been almost in a similar situation much further off the beaten path without the ability to carry on by yourself. I know this from my own stupid past mistakes and poor judgement in my younger days of off-road riding. Other vids I see in this realm, like Itchy Boots for example, give me a sense of elevated preparedness and training. A day ride can easily put one in situation of being in over their head without those elements on the table as well.
I love my Tiger 900 GT Pro, but hope to always have a deep respect for any risk that is associated with enjoying the fun of riding it.
Peace✌🏿, and I enjoyed the video, otherwise.
Thanks buddy, a bit more gear would be good. might get an InReach too.
Training regimen involves pies which probably doesn't help...
@@australianadv I ride on my own mainly and always have the InReach as well as water, food (OSM bars or similar), first aid and a tarp in case I have to do an overnighter unexpectedly. Fuel bags are useful too. Had a similar situation once where I went down a 50km track only to find gate locked and no way around. Extra fuel got me back. You have a really nice demeanour too, I really enjoyed your delivery. Sub from me.
Hi, I noticed you had the stock tires on. Maybe you should buy more offroad tiers so you get much more grip when you're offroading. I'm considering the 900gt or pro, not decided yet. Great video, hope you're knee is healing well.
Thanks mate, I appreciate the well wishes. The knee is back to 99% but it was worth it for the adventure :-)
I have Continental TKC80 tires on now which have been amazing. I will probably go Motoz next
What an epic day!
Thanks for sharing!
It's what made me decide to publish videos. Such a dramatic day.
Wow what a day.. keep riding! / wishes from Sweden
Thanks for watching! I've got a few more adventures planned, hopefully not as painful as this one!
Thanks for the video,. hope you get better soon . great bike, [nice colour] Ihave a Tiger 900gt ,there are not many roads here in the Netherlands where you can ride off-road
Thanks, appreciate that. I did think about the GT, I think it's a bit better in the twisties and it can still do a gravel road better than most road bikes.
New subscriber here, Like the bike and the quality production on the videos, Cheers AU
Thanks, I appreciate that. I'll try to keep them coming...
Hi, how’s the leg? Hope your OK. Back on yet? Great clips, I got here from the Triumph App connection one you did. I just gave up. Loved your Walcha to Glouster; I’ll be doing that for sure. I’m just back on after months of recovery from a foot accident. I’m taking it pretty easy I can tell you. I was a bit weary looking at your speedo right before your accident. I have read a few comments as I didn’t want to repeat; so have you got the off road tyres yet? Anyway I’m also a proud Tiger 900 GT Pro owner. I have the Gearne SG12s too but like you can’t get them to work on the gear lever and have cranked it all the way up. I’m investigating a smaller rod to the (auto shifter) gear box. I wish you all the best and hope to see you on the road. E.
Hi mate, thanks for the comment. The leg is pretty much back to 100%. I've since learned the most important thing you can do is just don't go so fast.
I sold the SG12s, just too big, but I might get some AlpineStar tech7s. Will have to test before I buy though.
I've since got Continental TKC80 tyres which have been brilliant, but I kept my old tyres in case I want to do some distance touring. I've done about 5000kms on the TCK80s and the rear is 30%, front about 70%. Better than I thought I'd get.
Love that shortcut👌and ridden well on road tyres😉 hope your knees on the mend fella👍
Thanks mate, appreciate that. Looks like I'll be avoiding surgery, should be back on the bike in a few weeks
@@australianadv you've got some great trails at your place👌
Great video. Plenty of drama, and well shot. Cheers. l guess a bivvy bag is a good idea as well, for emergencies overnighters - you might already carry one. Hope leg gets better soon.
Thanks, had plenty of time to edit the video with my leg keeping me home!
Bivvy would be good.
Hope you feel better soon. Look in to more offroad oriented tyres. +1 for knee braces. I learned the hard way myself.
Thanks mate, already on the mend.
I'm definitely getting knee braces before I go off road next time. Can't beleive it never occurred to me before. Too used to road riding, really need proper motocross gear.
This has convinced me never to get on a bike! Also, yes, there is no access from Yerranderie on, its all water catchment exclusion zone and has been for about 50 years or more. Otherwise this would be one of the most popular loops in existence. But you know that now.
You don’t know what you don’t know eh? At least I seem to have recovered more or less 100%.
Biking is definitely a whole different game to regular 4x4, you can actually be physically injured, but somehow there’s nothing quite like it
Hi, I admire your tenacity mate. Hope the knee heals fully, did you find out if the other guy was ok after his accident? I have just found you in my recommendations so have subbed you and hit the bell so I won't miss your future travels. Take care mate, Norm from England UK 😉
Thanks Norm, appreciate the sub! I don't know how the other guy faired, hopefully one the guys he was with will find this video and let us know. I'm pretty sure he was stable, but with a few breaks (wrist and knee?). Very rough accident.
Um, as a local it is Bull e o. Not rhyming with Jullio. Just in case no one has mentioned this ....From Yerranderie east to the west side of Warragamba dam is not open to the public, is gated/signposted and striclty off limits to public access and if you are caught there - very heavy fines. In the vicinity of tens of thousands of dollars. Sydney Water use trail cameras a lot and have rangers. Any roads on the map that start with a W are Sydney Water - old MWSD&B roads. Yerranderie is one way in and same way back out. Google maps shouldn't be used for these areas - or check and then double check. Same coming in from the Oaks side. No access. The long way around. Anywhere near water storage around Sydney, Illawarra and Central Coast the tracks are off limits - for very good reason.
Good to know.
I wonder why it’s call Bullio?
Deu sorte que conseguiu se levantar e continuar o passeio.
Foi uma sorte para mim!
😊🙏
Cheers
Awesome video man, you seem like you had a proper adventure for sure. Your footage was great, what camera did you use?
Thanks mate! I use a GoPro Hero 10 Black on a helmet chin mount, and for the helicopter rescue used my iPhone 13 Pro. The pro is handy because it has the 3X lens.
The whole point of a bike that expensive is - to relax doesn’t matter if it’s getting dark or it’s going to storm and turn the track to slop - that’s why we pay the bike fukn money for the reliability and that it gets us there safe -
Yep, I learnt that lesson. I was thinking in the Dargo video, no need to rush. I’ll get there eventually, just don’t crash.
14:10, ah yes, Australia - land of the locked gate.
lol it bothers me more than it should, a lot of rides I plan get cancelled because the NSW planning map in Gaia shows there’s a locked gate
@@australianadv To be fare the roads around every water supply in Sydney are no go zones and have been for many many years so im surprised you expected to be able to get through. A little research would have shown that.
The best tool I’ve found is downloading the NSW Topo map layer downloaded into Gaia GPS. You can see a little icon showing if the gate is locked or not.
It appears that your leg protection is little more than ankle height. Can I suggest a pair of enduro/MX style boots ? Glad it wasn't a serious fall. Did you go back to see what caused it ?
LOL I know they aren’t the most protective boots, and I have seen my own shinbone before, so probably should pay more attention to it. :-)
I did have some Gaerne SG-12s which are an amazing boot, but they were a bit too bulky and I couldn’t get my toe under the gear shifter easily. I might look at some Alpine star tech 7s
Hi. Hope you're on the mend. Shame we don't bounce as well as we used to! I'm just considering the Tiger 900 Rally Pro to replace my CB 500 X so I'm following your (mis)adventures as part of my research; many Thanks for posting your travels. Glad to see the tiger can withstand the ocassional drop 😉Did you find out whether the guy that took the big dive was OK? Best wishes from the UK
Thanks mate, appreciate that. Definitely on the mend, and have a few good rides planned.
I have had a CB500X in the past, still have a soft spot for it but the the Tiger is a whole other level.
I don't know how the other guy ended up, I know they were flying him to one of the larger local hospitals. Poor guy, the video doesn't convey just how far he'd fallen, it's amazing he survived.
@@australianadv Here's hoping he wasn't too badly injured. It's a very sobering sight to ride past a bike accident, let alone half way down a mountain!Safe travels....
@@billyb6043 Thanks mate. Even more sobering when it's your exact bike 😨
what a great adventure! some have commented in favor of you getting knee braces to protect against future injuries, and while I am not against knee braces, I think the best way to protect yourself from a crash is better tires. I think your crash was caused at least in part by the OEM Battlax Adventure A41 tires you have on your bike. If you are going to go off road again (which you should), then you need more off road oriented tires. I am pretty sure that had you had appropriate tires, you wouldn't have crashed! Since you ride a lot of road miles, your new tires need to be decent on the road also. with that in mind, I have been very happy with a Motoz GPS front / Tractionator Adventure rear combo. If you don't like that, I would check out the new Metzler Karoo 4, Pirelli Rally STR, or Dunlop TrailMax Mission. All these will give you way better traction off road than your current OEM Battlax Adventure A41 tires! and all the models I suggested have decent street characteristics! I know your current tires are hardly worn, so replacing them might seem like a waste, but if new tires can prevent another similar crash, then new tires will result in a huge savings! It would have been interesting to see the crash video - will you be posting it too? Thanks for sharing - Cheers
Thanks for the advice, I"m definitely looking to get some decent off road tyres very soon.
Unfortunately I don't have footage of the crash, my GoPro was set to record the 15 seconds before hitting record, but by the time I came to my senses after the crash more than 15 seconds must have passed because the footage starts with me already on the ground.
I agree.
Tires are the one thing, no one should ever skimp on.
I love how people will buy trash tires for a new vehicle, and say their truck sucks in the snow or something.
Its just mind boggling to me how stupid some people are (not saying that applies here, just a general statement of what I see on a daily basis).
Having never had any success with my iPhone to sync with the My Triumph app, I was confused just what was on your TFT. Wow! Navigation! Come on Triumph. Fix the app!!!!
I had the same trouble but it worked after version 1.2.5. Check your version by opening the app, clicking that menu button at top left, go to settings then scroll right down.
One good thing about the app is it will record your ride, so you can download it as a GPX file later.
@@australianadv I have 1.2.5. I'll give it a try. Many thanks.
@@ottomatic7823 I just uploaded a video on getting it to work if you're still interested.
Ha ha , Ive just binge watched pretty much your whole channel. When I saw Bullio Pass in the title of this one, I couldn't resist as well. I have done this and other loops from the Albion Park Macquarie pass end many times. After your intro when google told you you could go through a waterboard gate, I was interested, because I knew that gate is never open and fuel can become an issue. Wow didnt you have quite the adventure. Here's a link to our yerranderie adventure if you've got time, I got a flat and that was no fun on a T7, with factory rubber still on the rim. Not sure if you made it into the town, but worth going back if you didnt as you know its a great ride. czcams.com/video/_ghwoRexZM0/video.html
Awesome, so glad you liked it. I'm just watching your trip along Bullio pass that's blocked with road works. Getting some flash backs with the scenery, great trip.
@@australianadv Cheers, always great riding up that way.
Awesome journey but please change your tyres :)
LOL it's almost a running joke on the channel at this point :-) I will change them soon...
I thought that the Mittagong to Wombeyan road was still closed?
I haven't been through since 31st December, it was open then. Not sure if it closed since.
@australianadv live traffic app has it open now, was closed for quite a while. I did notice some new roadworks in your vid so that must have been it.
I ride the same sort of trails as you and always alone. You've convinced me to buy an epirb. Cheers
@@lowend5566 either that or a sat phone like the InReach Mini. I haven’t used one but apparently you can press an SOS button which is similar to an epirb but you also have the option of texting back and forth
@lukecoverdale ah,yes, that's what I was trying to remember. Few hundred bucks but worth it.
Any damage to the bike without the upper crash bars?
Not too bad. I did another video going over the bike in detail if you’re curious
The gate to Warragamba was locked because of those wretched bearded Presbyterian’s
Bearded Presbyterians? You’ve got me curious!
Too bad there is no footage of the crash to evaluate. Hope your knee heals soon.
Thanks. Yeah from a content point of view it would have been good, I'm just glad I had the presence of mind to press record after the crash. Shame the GoPro wasn't set to 30 seconds pre-record.
Mind you, I don't plan on repeating the experience!
Could have been worse, that's why you should never go off piste on your own
It’s risky that’s for sure. I have a Garmin Inreach now so at least I can communicate (if I’m still conscious:-)
unfortunate... but we are the inventor and creator of our own misfortune in this case for sure... perhaps some decent riding boots and knee braces would be a good idea as an investment the next ride . heal soon.
Thanks mate. Yeah I was pretty well protected for road riding, Gaerne boots, rip stop jeans with knee pads, jacket, gloves, full face helmet.
I think I’ll need more motocross type gear to be safer next time if I want to hit the dirt that hard
Another fine example of ADV riders cashing out an injuring themselves seriously, relying on helicopters and such, and also relying on "luck". A blown knee joint, ligament, tendon whatever...then you talk lightly about getting out again once its healed.....this is terrible example of motorcycling. Many many mistakes led to this near disaster....many lessons "learned" maybe....Tune in to AReimann1 fellas and learn before you head out, the do's and dont's .....
I’m sure Adam Riemann has had plenty of crashes himself, and luck would have played a part in the outcome of all of them. Motorcycling is a dangerous activity, but so is life, and they are plenty of less interesting ways you can be a burden on society.
@@australianadv Pure nonsense, a rider in complete denial over his head. Adam most certainly has had crashes, no where in my comment did I suggest otherwise. What I did suggest was that this new adv market has attracted an alarming number of riders going out on heavy bikes and hurting themselves badly, having to close roads, and require helicopter rescues...over and over....and over again. It was not an odd observation that you made on that one single day, passing a rider on the exact same bike crashing badly...like you did....on a flat road. Adam crashes jumping logs, racing at extreme speeds, competing etc. And even then the rate of crashes you would see at your local track is "without a doubt' less than the current rate of adv riders crashing out, dropping, endlessly, repeatedly, and hurting themselves inevtitably...as you said. To suggest in your comment that I need to be informed that motorcycling is dangerous etc etc, is a repeated comment pulled from the great book of motorcycling myths. Riding a hourse is dangerous, so is hiking in the mountains...so is ice hockey, and rugby. The point your missing in my contribution to your crash and injury video, is that if you learn from Adam instead of from nearly breaking your knee in half, that would be a better approach. Yes motorcycling in dangerous....duh.....but if you listen to Adam you would learn that intellectually, they are not dangerous...if you apply more thought, and less experimenting and learning from your mistakes attitude, all that will ever get you is an injury...that you may not ever recover from....whether its psychologically or physically. I say this not as grumpy comment, but as an experienced, championed, veteran off road and on road rider since 1979 to today, and spent 10 years as an actually certified instructor I ride two bikes, and have not crashed, dropped, or had to learn from an injury since I was in my 20's and I am 60. T7 and DRZE....simple as that. You can take my comment for what it is.....I have a slight limp stemming from a minor knee injury when I was mid 20's, my physiotherpist at the time predicted that limp, and low and behold it was true. Remind yourself mate, that injuries are permanent...and crashes need to be avoided at all costs.....ADV riders are showing a poor attitude, and take crashing...and the crashbar phenomena a little too lightly. Note on Adams bikes....no crash bars...and no bark busters....etc Because he knows they are not a good idea, and not needed. Crash bars, and bark busters...actually make injury risk go up...if you "think" about it.....Your welcome from Canada...good luck with your dangerous experiment.
I love your passion, and I’m sure it comes from a good place. I’ll take your advice and be more careful.
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha lack of experience, a beginner in off-roading, being alone, excessive speed, lack of focus and impatience are all factors that lead to accidents.
Hey, subscribe to the channel so you don't miss the next crash...
Bread moto lusers..:(( crash video a' i dont fell for a foll bro ...ha
Cheers for the comment