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Plan B for the Flock | The New Chicken Run
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- We are forced to make a decision regarding our chickens freedom for the upcoming winter, with permanent fencing being our solution we jump in and tackle this project along with discussing our ongoing issue with aerial predators.
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2 of the most industrious individuals on youtube, period. they also seem like a pretty GREAT couple.
That's what I was thinking, too.
I like your honesty. I've watched channels where the people have said "we're going to try this" and then never mention it again, but you can tell in the background that they have abandoned the project because it failed. You learn more from your failures than you do your successes. And the chicken run looks good. I hope it works for you.
A few SUGGESTIONS to - consider - or not from a 50 years in Alaska homesteader. Didn’t see your gate entrance 1. - a snow gate that raises and lowers according to snow depth and hugs the ground tightly. 2. Where to locally get a commercial weight T-post driver and T-post puller; the driver doubles as very useful slide hammer and lots of other uses. 3. another way to rabbit and dog-dig proof your fencing bottoms over way uneven and soft easy dig-able ground.
Snow-Gate: Our gate is 14 foot wide covered by four 4'+ gate sections that independently swivel and raise or lower that can be all removed ultra easy in less then 2 minutes to get the 14’ width for trucks etc and replaced in maybe 3 min. The key is a hippy conduit hinge with a single pull-out conduit hinge pin. Back in the 60’s commune days with little money we learned to be masters of jury-rigging necessity creating the mother of our “invention” of the conduit hinge system that has very wide uses especially for snow-gates. Simple cut a bunch of 3/4” conduit into pieces about 8-12” long. Take another piece of 1/2” conduit about 12-16” taller then your gate posts. Example, our gates are 4 of 4’+ x 6’ tall sections made of 2x4’s the bottom piece either outdoor wood or pressure treated which hugs the ground, with a couple 45’s in two corners to add stiffness and a 1x6 cross piece at the height of your hand at it’s side for easy lifting. Cover with fencing wire to create your gate section. Your going to attach 4 pieces of conduit on one gate section and 4 pieces on the other so that when you put the two gate sections together you’ve created a piano hinge and the single piece more taller then the height of your gate is your hinge pin and you bend the excess height over 90 degrees for your pull handle. BUT BUT when you place the opposing conduit hinge females we create a 6-8” spacing gap on each side that allows you to raise or lower the gate 6”-8”. For deeper snow you just pull the pin up and skip a set of opposing female hinge sections. You two are EASILY smart enough to figure the not-mentioned stuff out. We make the sections wide enough that they are substantially all-together wider then the gate opening so that one has to create a double-angled section arrangement which adds strength and stability. 2 angled & hinged panels to one post and 2 to the other post they meet in the middle we just use bunjee cords for the latch. These will always be resting snug into the ground by the weight of the gate easily raised or lowered by lifting the 1x6 cross piece of each section. You just lift a section to open it, opens and closes like butter.
Check-out Fence Emporium near Palmer for the commercial T-post driver and t-post puller; they cost about $60 a piece but will come in so so so handy and you’ll find multiple uses for the driver. Weld a wedge type piece to a 1” pipe about 3’ long and you have one mean super easy stubborn birch log splitter you put the driver OVER and pound and of course multiple must other uses for a slide hammer. These folks are NOT related I’m not paid or gifted to recommend them only do business with them a couple times per year but for me they are cool folks with all kinds of multiple use stuff like three guages of galvanized top rail wire you can use for left in place turnbuckles and all kinds of uses. You take two wraps around two objects put a 2’ pipe in the center and start winding it tighter and tighter depending on width of space between the two wraps you can pull a good 6” or more. The puller lifts t-posts like butter. You can also make a permanent winch for longer pulls just insert a 10-12" 2x6 with the two wires wrapped around it so that when you turn the 2x6 with whatever turner you fabricate the length of your turner is the pull weight of your winch put a long enough turner and you'll break the two wires or crush the 2x6 it is THAT strong with using the heavy guage top rail wire. Use two - four wraps depending on strength needed.
Rabbit and dog dig proof your way uneven ground fence bottoms. Just get 18 - 24” chicken wire fasten to bottom of fence with clips and fastner you can get at Fence Emporium (it’s FAST) bend it over toward the outside or inside of your fence depending on keeping out or in and cover with logs boulders or stakes or just lots of dirt. For extra protection lay two rows of barbed wire over the fold and lightly bury.
Best wishes to that cool couple who were classic Alaskan types way before they ever thought of coming here / HOME.!
You are such good neighbors and chicken owners to be so conscientious about your chickens getting out. I used to have a nasty neighbor that would purposely speed up to run over any of my free-ranging birds that got out into the road. Hopefully your neighbors are nicer than that.
hearsthewater we have exceptionally wonderful neighbors, I'm sorry to hear that, we've never had experiences like that but have heard of them.
My dear heroes! Again it’s a pleasure to watch how you’re carrying out your hard work. Never too late to learn, that’s what I get from your videos. Love to learn. I am grateful for what you teach all of us with your perseverance and strength. Thank you. Bless you.
Never in a million years could I live like u are...I fully enjoy city life!🤣 However I subscribe and watch everything u put out because I appreciate the hard work, admire the lifestyle and simply just find it all fascinating!!! Keep doing your thing!
I too, couldn't live there because of the short gardening season - plus, you haven't mentioned the black flies or mosquitoes, (that I've seen on one of your vids) - but I thoroughly respect what you guys are doing and enjoy your videos very much.
I just want to say "Plan B for the Flock / The New Chicken Run" sounds like an epic/hilarious remake of a classic Aardman movie featuring claymation chickens.
Great job on the chicken coop my lovelies. I know Justin Rhodes only uses one goose in each flock he has. He bought the geese young like babies and then put them in with the baby chicks that he buys so they grow together. Their main goose Donald screams blue murder when a hawk comes anywhere near the chicken area. He is a brilliant guard goose. The only answer to you issue is to either re-home or cook your goose lol as you mentioned. Nice goose fat for cooking. . .wonderful!! Hugs, Michelle
We learned the hard way last winter that the net fence does not work in snow, so this was the perfect video as I look to permanently fence our coop and run while utilizing materials on the property. I went and got more pallets yesterday after watching some of your videos
I love Russel Crow!! We feed a cat who roams in the neighborhood and I named him “Will Ferrell “ lol.
I am not sure this would work with hawks but it worked with black birds that got in the garden and ate the corn etc. Shoot one and hang it over the chicken fence. Also if you could get a recording of owl or eagle sounds and put it on a timer it might keep the hawks away. This method was used to keep pigeons away using hawks sounds and it is very successful.
Wow almost 60k subs, good for you two, you do a great job only complaint is not enough videos!!! You two are my favorite homesteading channel, always look forward to your videos.
Love your vid’s
Just a couple things we have found work well (raised turkeys and chickens my entire life)
We had weasel/raccoon/fox issues. What we did that fixed it was cut the same kind of 5’ renting you have there, wiring it to the bottom of the fence, scraping back 6-8” of ground around the outside and burring the fence. Not only did it stop things from digging under but it filled in our gaps from our un even ground. We also ran a single strand of electric 3’ up and 2-3” stood off the fence to stop the raccoons from climbing over.
For the hawk’s/great horned owl. We found cherry tree nets that where too old to be good for keeping out the small starlings and robins they where intended for. Those long nets weren’t bad to hang we tied flagging ribbon on all over and it kept them out. We netted about a acre of land in a weekend was a bit tricky getting around the trees but once your close enough the net is in the branches the birds won’t fly through. I know nets like that probably arnt available to you just thought id share. We had no luck with scare crows, line, even propane poppers (mimic gunshots) ended up just netting it all.
Today is my birthday and one of my wishes is prosperity and a blessfull creation of life for all you homesteaders and off the grid folks out there. May you live in abundance with love for nature, freedom, creation and each other. I wish it so. 🍀🌲
If it makes you feel better I have about 50-100 wild finches and doves that chew my young plants down to nothing all summer. Next year we’re laying down netting.
The joy of being young and following your dreams. Thanks for sharing your adventures. Always watching from Kansas.
I learned some good tricks for my garden watching you build this fence, thanks for all the details!
It makes perfect sense that everything must serve its purpose. Personally, I would say, menu would be much more humane in this case. Geese are emotional birds and to be re-homed means wondering what in the heck happened for the rest of their lives. That's just my perspective.
It is evident that y'all are dealing with the stress of first snow coming. You're pretty well prepared from what I could see. Just knock out whatever you can based on importance (remembering to secure the lead rope to and from the wood pile) and cellar?) and know that you got this!
I also had trouble with hawks and what finally worked for me was stringing blank cd’s with fishing wire all through the trees. I haven’t had a hawk attack in 2 years. Maybe that would work for you. Good Luck!
What a very hard working couples and you are a example for the name couples 👏👏👏👏👍
Feel bad watching you drive T-posts with a sledge. I have a post driver and was just up your way 2 days ago...could have been neighborly and loaned you a tool.
Fence looks great by the way.
I was thinking dang I wash I lived there I would lend or buy them a T-Post driver. One of tho's Homestead must have tools. That is so cool to see There are still good neighbors like you around. Here in my town in SC on my dirt road. We all take care of are neighbors. Heck that is way I was up at 3:45 one of the neighbors cows was being pushed by a pack of coyotes. Had to put a stop to that. Lol sorry I know you do not care. DO not know why I am sharing.. GOD BLESS!!
That's so nice and kind! Don't feel bad. Your heart is great and your thought is kind. Bless you sir.
@@yankey4 Its always nice to share with like-minded people and lets us know good people still exist. Do you do youtube as well?
@@patmcmillan5061 I do have been for the past 9 years. Thanks BTW. God Bless.
Oh what a shaMe. Man , banging metal posts in w a post hole banger was ok be of the hardest dam things I ever did; can,t imagine...w out one. These poor kids
Amazing. I'm still a new fan, stuck back here in your incredible past. Waiting for lightning to strike so I can get back to the future. But this is so much fun and informative!
I love the name of the scarecrowe "Russel Crowe"
Beautiful Rooster. So cute.
You remind me of us 30 years ago. Our solution for hawks and owls was to use an old gillnet recycled from a commercial fisherman friend of ours. We had children, a dog team and livestock (goats, sheep, chickens, turkeys, geese, and ducks. We were also on the roadkill list with the troopers at the time. Anyway, if you can finds a "retired" commercial driftnet and string it up over your pen, it will deter aerial predators. We had owls as the biggest problem, and although they couldn't carry chickens and geese away, they could dismember them and carry away parts, especially the head and neck. We lost several geese that way before we found the net solution.
We had 9 geese at one point and they were the worst guardians ever. They were free range with the chickens and on one occasion while we were in the house, in the middle of the afternoon, a fox came onto the property and took three chickens before we checked out what the rooster was getting in a tizz about. The geese were sleeping in a huddle in the shade, being very quiet. 🤨 As they got older the geese became more aggressive as well (and these were hand reared geese) so we decided to eat them. Alot of what people tell you about animals is anecdotal and somehow it becomes 'fact'. We have aerial predators too, eagles mostly but they only target the chicks and mostly mummy hen is pretty good at hiding them, not always but we don't lose that many. Good luck with the new run.
I also agree with so many the people commenting. You make a great team. Loving watching your posts.
Y'all are the perfect team!
I love your black and bronze rooster! What a beauty. I long to keep chickens, but not now in appropriate area. I have strong hopes to relocate in the next five years. From Ohio to rural Virginia. Chicken city then, yup!
to keep hawks out of your chickens pen , you need big plastic owls placed around you pen and in trees , also find a way to attract Crows .. Crows will chase off any hawk or eagle in the area .
Your "Jimmy rigging" ingenuity is a pleasure to watch! Thanks for sharing!
That premier one fencing even keeps out bears. Won't stop moose though. Great stuff. God bless
Thanks for showing us how to cut the feathers.
you have to remember that a hawk is a woodland forest hunter and they are very good in closed spaces.
Friendly word of advice. I was raised with all kinds of chickens. If you want to get one particular breed that is very protective of their flock, then get at least two full size Domenecker roosters. When I was a kid, we had a rooster that was about two feet tall. Not even our hound dogs would go into their pen. Those dogs on average were about sixty pounds. They were scared to death of that rooster!
So so impressive. I learn so much watching you two. Even though your in Alaska and I'm in North central Oklahoma. It works.
Thank you and God Bless. 😃❤
The fence is beautiful lol, I love the way the wood at the bottom looks. It gives it character..... Thanks again always enjoy coming along on your journeys.
I really appreciate your candor, particularly in pointing out those things that might have seemed like great ideas on the surface, but just didn't work out, so they don't continue to live on as "urban myths" with no factual basis long after people have forgotten where they even heard of doing something that way.
This is most helpful with the CZcams format, because your video content will usually remain for years after you've mentioned something and trialed it, only to find it not yielding the desired result, but all-too-often, someone may stumble upon your content months or years later, or even have seen it right away, but may not get around to trying it on their own for months or even years. I would like to be able to raise chickens, but until I move elsewhere, I can't legally do it where I live. It is likely to be a few years before I am in a position to re-locate to more homestead-friendly parts, but I will still collect as much information as I can, so as to be quickly successful when I am able to go there.
*I am curious now, about how much did it cost to buy the pig when you bought one for slaughter, and is that likely to be something you'd do again this winter, particularly after the unsuccessful moose hunting?*
Thanks for sharing your experiences with all of us.
Test User thank you, we appreciate that. Honesty is the best policy in our opinion.
We did in fact purchase another pig this year, we opted not to butcher it on our own though since we are still playing catch up. We paid a flat fee of $500 for a 200 plus lbs pig but dollar per lb for hanging weight is more typical, usually $4-5 where we are from. Then there are butchering fees if you choose that, we are going to be curing our own stuff this year. Raising them is typically less costly but there is a mini start up cost and food resources are more limited here among the higher cost of a piglet so we are happy to buy from a local farmer that takes wonderful care of his animals 😀
@@SimpleLivingAlaska Thanks for the info!
We used to have chicken back in the Pacific islands and they were free range. We literally had no fences so the chickens literally roamed everywhere and they would come home when the sun starts going down to eat and sleep. They were really free range lol even our pigs.
Bet you didn't feel the need to carry a pistol either 😊
@@dealific nope defs not
@@mra6308 Perhaps not so simple living in Alaska after all 😁
@@dealific yeah nah never said it was cause I know what it's like 🙌
Salut a vous super la qualité d images tank you vidéo magnifique super bravo merci
Hahaha, chickens running down the road. Love to see ya chasing them. You guys are awesome. Watching from Ontario Canada
The fence came out great, I love the look of the logs on the bottom, it just looks epic. Great job you two!
Hi from Australia. 😊I don't know if anyone else has suggested this,but have you considered a couple of guinea fowl? They don't protect the flock directly, but they make a big loud ruckus if there are any predators,foxes,snakes,hawks,visitors to your homestead,etc,so you'd definately be alerted immediately if anything is amiss. Their needs are similar to hens,they are independent freerangers like the icelandics,too. Don't know how they'd cope with cold tho. Hope this is helpful. They eat ticks and small snakes,too.
After living in 2 farms with chickens in wooded surroundings & intense predator predation from ground and above....the only very good situation we had was our first farm with solid barn to keep out four legged varmits & we put the chickens to bed every night before dusk with intensive protection both with blackberry bramble paths in pines & bushes; & forsynthia bushes along wooden fencing...it was so dense that the hawks & coyotes didn't have the ability to reach them. I sat with them at times if I saw hawks & saw attacks through windows but the birds knew to hide. Hawks are too smart for scarecrows. We lost the battle with our second farm... acres of cornfields hid coyotes, foxes, possums and the hawks loved our trees and they systematically took out our chicken flocks over 4 years. We had top of the line electric fencing but you're right it's only effective until fall...leaves debris & weeds against electric fencing is a real problem and snow takes the charge out. If you don't have good solar charge it's useless as well. If you don't have bird netting on top you have to give your chickens bushes to hide in...but we struggled with bird netting as wild small birds would get caught inside and they are so fragile. Our second farm just didn't have dense ground cover enough for our birds...we purposely let tall weeds grow around their coop to give them shelter but their coop was not as secure. I have one last bird alive and she's in a rabbit hutch/run...but I need to rehome her to a better life. >.< predators....suck. We just won't have chickens again until we have a better environment with brush & solid built barns.
Also, I know you do not use concrete much due to heaving. But is you do use it for posts you do not need to mix it, especially when it rains as much as it does where you are at. Just pour dry concrete directly into the hole and tamp it good. The concrete will absorb moisture from the surrounding poles.
I live in South Louisiana and had to use 8 foot tall post and cement it in the ground and across the top of the chicken yard and put fencing across the top and two sheets of galvanized tin to keep cats and opossum and raccoons from killing my little Bantams. I live in the city so no rooster to protect the little ladies.
A very good example for couples , this is what partner mean .👍
Have not had Geese myself, but other sources have mentioned that single geese will protect better than a pair because the goose bonds to its chicken friends rather than having another goose to chill with.
LMBO at your little rooster trying like heck to crow!!!! LOL LOL LOL (sorry youtube flipped to the next video before I could comment)
You are doing a great job and have a wonderful attitude. Stay warm this winter.
Thank you all your advice has been very helpful. Love you!❤ Blessings sent. 😊
You both work so hard on your homestead. Your new fenced area looks great. Thank you for sharing!!
Love the chickens coop and yard area and your plan B fence. Your on top of the raising of egg layers and meat chickens, great job. Enjoy your taking us along on your projects.
You two are amazing i'm so jealous,thank you for your vlog i enjoy it so much.
Beautiful rooster! I think the new 🐓 run looks really great and creative!
That's hilarious. Geese ain't doing their job so now they're ON THE MENU!!! HEEHEE.. Can't wait to see your recipe on goose after that tarmigan sandwich you made a few vids back!
Love you guys, very encouraging and lots of ideas.
Great using free stuff to block the gaps under the fence!
I just found your channel a week ago and I’ve been binge watching since. I love what you are doing as I wish to do something like this as well! I look forward to all knew uploads! Love the channel
Guineas are great for alerting when hawks are coming.. My guinea roo would make a loud noise and all of the hens chickens and guineas would heat for the chicken house... Guineas are awesome guards of your flock.. They will alert when anything is coming up.. Great for picking bugs up also.
Of all the homesteading or off-grid videos and shows that I've watched I have to say you two have thoroughly impressed me!! You two have your SH_T together. Good luck with your future plans and I wish you nothing but the best!
You guys are awesome, great job, you work so good together.
Good job y’all great work. Live and learn that is what we do
You guys should make more than 1 video a week. I watch them all and get some goats!
Hi just watched your early videos so enjoyable 😉 the drive up tour of cabin container building chicken house 🏠 thanks heaps.
Another well done job. Always learning new things watching your videos. And seeing how you are learning the difference in Alaska to the lower states for raising chickens or anything else
Dear Eric and Arielle, again another wonderfully honest video about your challenges and life in Alaska. I continue to repeat myself when I say there is nothing you two cannot do working together. I am wondering after all the hard work this summer with the garden/fishing/and working towards being ready for the winter, will you two ever take sometime off to just do nothing or visit family or get away to a warm place? Of course if you did we would miss you terribly.
Claudia Olaso we hope to be slowing down around here soon, but we don't have any special plans as of yet ☺
Nice video you guys and great job on the homestead! Both of you seem very sensible and they way you handle your animals is great! I appreciate you both for taking the time to make this video and look forward to future vids! God Bless! 😁
Your living adventure is alot of work thank you for sharing your experiences and efforts.
We have a few chickens that have been escaping our poultry netting as well. Even clipping their wings hasn’t work. I make sure to distribute A LOT of eggs to my neighbors, although I would still prefer our chickens to stay put.
I hope they add rabbits to their farm. Rabbit poo makes for a fantastic cold fertilizer (can be thrown straight into the garden without needing to be processed, like cow/horse manure)
Try a Tom Turkey! We had one that was awesome for predators. Ravens, Eagles, Owls and Fox are our biggest (we’re in the same neck of woods) and our Tom Turkey did awesome! Plus if ya get Hen Turkeys, they lay eggs
Love the way you utilize all of your equipment
I have the luxury of working from home so I have been binge watching your channel while working the past few days. Trying to soak up a bunch of tips and knowledge! Love what you have done,
Hodge-Podge Garage thank you so much! Happy Holidays :)
thanks for the update, great information, very useful for me when I move
thank you for the "get only one goose" info
I can appreciate all your hard work and I love your honest approach to livestock. That is what they are. I have the w geese and a duck and for right now, they are purely for entertainment. Should that change, I will not hesitate to send them to freezer camp. I just thinking about that yesterday when the wind was gusting 50mph...how long are their antics going to be cute....🤔🤓 projects always end up taking longer for most of us. It's just reality.
Great job,
Wonderful job on the useful video!! We have experienced so many of the same problems with predators with our chickens, ducks, turkeys, etc..... Not fun but we are learning as well! Thanks for sharing!!!!!
You seem to be digging a lot of holes for posts etc. I owned a real estate post business for about 8 years. We took digging bars like you have and cut off the flat end. We then added a small plate of 1/2 inch steel and welded it on. this is to tamp the soil. Believe me it is easier than what I have watched on your videos. Sharpen the other end to a long slender point. Use it to loosen the soil. Then use a post hole digger to remove the dirt. This worked real well for us.
You guys rock the Casba with your videos , i watch and continue to learn ... thank you so much for sharing :))) .
Great work! Wondering if we can get a root cellar update after all the summer harvest has been put up and stored? Does it seem like it’s going to work out well? Keep up the hard work and great videos!
Travis Stombaugh we are filming that tomorrow 😀
Some people use chicken's to heat their greenhouses since the have a fairly high body temperature, above 104F . Maybe that would be an idea for your cold area?
Survival Lilly we have heard that, personally I am concerned with moisture build up and the possible negative impact on the chickens health plus the chance of frostbite but I love the concept, this also is our first winter with them so I imagine we will have a bit to learn 😀
Check out Swedish homestead channel, he’s at about our latitude, chickens and pigs on deep bedding in greenhouse.
@@SimpleLivingAlaska richard perkins is in your same zone but in sweden and keeps his layers in a hoop house. I personally turn my greenhouse into a coop for winter
The people at the National Avairy here in Pittsburgh just clip the feathers on one wing keeps them from flying away
I'm sorry to hear that the fishing line didnt work. Next step the three SSS shoot, shovel, shut up. It works up north here in Minnesota and Wisconsin
Ppl i know use vege mesh used on trees. It keeps the fliers out. I also have a shade cloth over part of their area which keeps them safe from predators & out of our 47C heat
Love it guys. Looks good. Thanks for sharing. Keep up the good work. God Bless..
Great video guys👍 winter sure has been slow to get going the last few years up there. But great for getting that extra stuff done.
Had chickens off and on for decades. We do well and then some predator or another finds the birds. Racoons ,skunks, possums,weasels. Go months with no problems then BAM! six or seven dead chickens one night. Even confinement doesn't always work. Best of luck to you all. Lots of hard work going on there.
So true. You have an injury or death, and you change something thinking- this time they're safe for sure. Then something else gets them- months or years later- and it's back to square one. That's the thing about farming- you learn just how much dumber than a fox you are. It's very humbling.
Thank you for this
You are doing a good job preparing for the cold weather, the fence looks great, sorry to hear about your geese, maybe you can get one from another homesteader who has been raised with chickens,
Happy chickens!
I have a small flock I am raising this fall/winter and wanted to keep them away from the main flock of adult hens so decided to put up a net that covers almost all their outside area since we have raptors as the main predators also.
A fantastic video, thanks!
We just had to lock them in all winter. I built a huge coop, 8x16, with 8 foot roof. Perches and fresh hay and straw all winter. They won't come inside when its sunny out, and it will only be daylight for 4 hours, and 30 below near Willow Creek. Their feet freeze, and predators, love them, especially owls. We only kept up to 24, so the pecking order didn't get bad when cooped up.
Jason Pippin thank you for the info, I am thinking about vaseline for my roos combs and we have a solar light coming in the mail, hoping things go well this winter ☺
@@SimpleLivingAlaska Chickens were a little heartbreaking in the winter, and cleaning out the frozen glacier of chicken poop in the spring was a literal nightmare. I build the entire wall of the coop to come off so I could clean. It would be a foot thick frozen mass of poop. I'd put fresh straw down every week, but it would freeze to the floor even though the coop was relatively heated.
You two are so inspirational ❤️
You have to clip wings every few weeks. Sounds like you need a shed to contain them or a covering so they can fly out or sneak out under a fence line.
Old Goose says...."hey young chicken, go check to see if the Hawks are out today".
Old Goose says to another young chicken...."hey young chick, go check on your sibling"
Old Goose says to himself "Man, those Chickens are stupid".........
Wow! Great job!!❤️❤️❤️
Your goose may be cooked but good fences are always worth the effort. Hawks are smart, strong and tenacious. It's always something. Stay strong.