The many many problems with Marvel's 'What If?'... (SPOILERS)

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  • Bah humbug! Today we ponder the question "What if this show just kinda sucks?".
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    What If...? is an American animated anthology series created by A. C. Bradley for the streaming service Disney+ based on the Marvel Comics series of the same name. It is the fourth television series in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) produced by Marvel Studios, and the studio's first animated series from Marvel Studios Animation. The series explores alternate timelines in the multiverse that show what would happen if major moments from the MCU films occurred differently. Bradley serves as head writer for the first two seasons, with Bryan Andrews as the lead director.
    Jeffrey Wright stars as the Watcher, who narrates the series, alongside many MCU film actors reprising their roles. Marvel Studios was developing the series for Disney+ by the end of 2018, with Bradley and Andrews on board. It was officially announced in April 2019. Marvel Studios' head of visual development Ryan Meinerding helped define the series' cel-shaded animation style, which was designed to reflect the films and take inspiration from classic American illustrators. Animation for the series was provided by Flying Bark Productions and Stellar Creative Lab, with Blue Spirit and Squeeze also providing animation in the first season and SDFX Studios also animating in the second season. Stephan Franck served as head of animation in the first season, as well as a director on the second season, with Scott Wright as head of animation in the second.
    The first season of What If...? premiered on August 11, 2021, and ran for nine episodes until October 6, as part of Phase Four of the MCU. The second season premiered on December 22, 2023, as part of Phase Five, and released its nine episodes daily until December 30. The series has received generally positive reviews, with praise for the voice acting, animation, creative storylines, and scenarios, although the episodes' length and writing received some criticism. A third season and a spin-off series titled Marvel Zombies are in development.
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Komentáře • 173

  • @ericshun2552
    @ericshun2552 Před 5 měsíci +62

    They should have browsed the Internet for ideas, I saw someone spectaculate what if if the other Half of the population got snapped. That episode would have been fun to explore.

    • @LucasHopkins2006
      @LucasHopkins2006 Před 5 měsíci +11

      Yeah, it might’ve sounded weird initially if they did that but there are a lot of interesting questions out there from the amount of What If videos I’ve seen, heck MissedThePart has basically turned asking Marvel movie What If questions into his job, they can look to that

    • @yahmicah4294
      @yahmicah4294 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@LucasHopkins2006They may as well considering their writing isn’t any better than his. I can see that working out well for both his channel and their series.

  • @brewmaster2912
    @brewmaster2912 Před 5 měsíci +24

    My issue is that it is solely about MCU scenarios, not all marvel

    • @dariusporter358
      @dariusporter358 Před 5 měsíci +8

      It’s almost like this is an MCU show.

    • @budgiecat9039
      @budgiecat9039 Před 5 měsíci +5

      ​@@dariusporter358but....What If....it wasn't?

  • @shinyocelot04archive
    @shinyocelot04archive Před 5 měsíci +67

    Honestly I'm tired of the big multiversal crossovers. Part of the charm of the What If comics is their self contained stories allowing writers to do whatever they want. It could be as simple as a reimagining of previous events, to new stories that couldn't really fit within the 616 continuity. The show doesn't really draw much from the vast comic library and instead focuses on the MCU, which due to the way stories are formatted here it's mostly just switching characters around. Probably the best example of What If telling something new is the Strange Supreme story. It explores aspects of Strange we didn't we didn't see much of in the MCU while still being true to the character.

  • @Artist_Unbound
    @Artist_Unbound Před 5 měsíci +109

    Honestly, to this day, Earth's Mightiest Heroes remains the best Marvel animated show, imo.

    • @LucasHopkins2006
      @LucasHopkins2006 Před 5 měsíci +10

      Facts

    • @Artist_Unbound
      @Artist_Unbound Před 5 měsíci +10

      @@LucasHopkins2006, glad to meet a fellow fan. Lol.

    • @GabesEdtiz
      @GabesEdtiz Před 5 měsíci +16

      Nah, that’s just facts. Same with shows like Spectacular Spider-Man and the X-Men animated show.

    • @ccelite3782
      @ccelite3782 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Not an opinion. Its damn facts. Its some of the best Marvel media out there.

    • @GhostlyPhantom
      @GhostlyPhantom Před 5 měsíci +4

      Most of the 90s animated shows (X-Men and Spider-Man), Spectacular Spider-Man, Avengers EMH, and while I've never watched it I hear Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur is pretty great

  • @daredenny
    @daredenny Před 5 měsíci +22

    Biggest problem is there is no Daredevil

    • @tameston5467
      @tameston5467 Před 5 měsíci +10

      Think that goes for most marvel things,
      “Everytime Daredevil’s not on screen, the characters should ask where’s daredevil?”

    • @Nathanielcurrelley
      @Nathanielcurrelley Před 5 měsíci +4

      I couldn’t agree more

    • @daredenny
      @daredenny Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@tameston5467 That is absolutely correct. Also it's statistically true that with a Daredevil appearance the show/movie is better by 3 percent

    • @budgiecat9039
      @budgiecat9039 Před 5 měsíci +2

      What if has none of the characters from Phase 4 and 5.
      No Monica, no Kate Bishop, no Ms Marvel, no She-Hulk, no Daredevil, no Namor, no Kingpin, no Riri Williams, no Moon Knight, no Scarab, no Lady Thor, no Gorr, no Adam Warlock, no Phyla-Vell, no Cassie Lang, no Skrulls, no John Walker, no Kylie Morganthou, no Mordo, No America Chavez, no Taskmaster, no Red Guardian, no Jack Russell, no Man-Thing...
      The exception is The Mandarin. Somehow he got in
      Nor any from Netflix Marvel or the ABC network shows or the Hulu ones (Cloak & Dagger/Runaways). Well that's because those aren't canon anyway.

  • @xanderg.1070
    @xanderg.1070 Před 5 měsíci +5

    My problems with this show:
    1) It plays way too safe with its concepts
    2) the pacing is awful. You’ll have episodes that seems interesting but they drag on some parts of the episode that ended feels rushed, or it leaves to a cliffhanger that is never finished properly.
    3) I know this show is a MCU show, but I feel like having be limited to that universe causes more harm than good storytelling wise. I think it would have been so much better if What If was a show that had nothing to do with the MCU and was its own marvel show.
    4) It tries way too hard to be this serialize show when I feel like it should have been episodic with all of the episodes being self contained.
    5) It made certain characters look like they were jokes or easy to get rid of. For example, Thanos, who was the big bad of the first three phases, who was a huge challenge for the Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy, and other marvel heroes to face, is easily killed or turned into a hero within seconds.

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 Před 5 měsíci +14

    Infinity stones in the movies: gems of such powers, that only creatures of immense strength that can rival gods can’t even touch one without dying.
    Infinity stones in What If: you can just use them no problem.
    I mean, I guess that’s more comic book accurate that anyone can use them, but seeing as this is specifically meant to be based on the incarnation scene in the movies, you assumed they’d follow the same rules

  • @rustine07rr3
    @rustine07rr3 Před 5 měsíci +9

    They should've been:
    -Different Animation styles that rivals Spider-Verse.
    -Increase more time from 30 mins to 40 mins for more atmosphere.
    -Make more creative concepts and ideas.
    -Put the pacing in the 40 min mark.
    -Add more episodes from 9 episodes to 12 or 15 episodes.
    -Add more character development to other MCU Characters that didn't got that much development on the shows/films they first appeared or appeared in.
    -Improve World building and plot writing.
    -The voice acting should be based on the characters they played in the movies/tv shows instead of the voices being extremely exaggerated.

    • @Exrederex
      @Exrederex Před 5 měsíci +2

      At that point you are just asking for what if to be 15 mini movies per season, so im looking forward to season 3 in 2030

    • @donaldjgumpofficial5754
      @donaldjgumpofficial5754 Před 3 měsíci

      We only need the 3rd and 7th ideas.

  • @cultofsquidward4100
    @cultofsquidward4100 Před 5 měsíci +19

    Season 2 is so convenient for the heroes (peggy) that it's beyond silly.

  • @cabecadeprego8772
    @cabecadeprego8772 Před 5 měsíci +62

    One thing that i found really bizarre about What If is that Captain Carter is not really an important character in this new MCU saga (hell, her future is dying in a super lame way) and yet she has more screen time then Sam Wilson's Captain America that is the version of the character thats suppose to be important

    • @DmDaPDm
      @DmDaPDm Před 5 měsíci +3

      Well Peggy is the What If Captain America, while Sam is the real captain America. Makes sense to show him in the main movies.

    • @cabecadeprego8772
      @cabecadeprego8772 Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@DmDaPDm 1 movie, he's Captain America from 3 years and has less screentime then a alternate version thats not important

    • @user-mz9xo3hx1h
      @user-mz9xo3hx1h Před 5 měsíci +7

      The captain Carter in multiverse of madness is not the same one as the what if version

    • @keatsiannightingale2025
      @keatsiannightingale2025 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@user-mz9xo3hx1hTrue, but the MoM version was lame anyway so I don’t really care that she and the discount Avengers are gone tbh

    • @austinthomas8464
      @austinthomas8464 Před 4 měsíci

      Yeah too many Carter episodes

  • @Neos_Syber
    @Neos_Syber Před 5 měsíci +18

    Spectacular Spider-man's artstyle originated from Sean Galloway,It's the same artstyle that was used the two animated Hellboy movies

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  Před 5 měsíci +9

      Thank you! That's the one!

    • @Neos_Syber
      @Neos_Syber Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@ChannelPup No problem,Pup!

  • @massimodalessandro108
    @massimodalessandro108 Před 5 měsíci +11

    Some episodes of What If are pretty fun explorations of what could happen given a small change in the lore, mainly the second episode in this new season, but most of them just feel like an excuse to use fan favorite characters and tell bad jokes and make unengaging plotlines... I can sense the potential within the project, but they simply never go the full mile, they cripple their own ideas or straight up enjoy breaking the continuity of the MCU movies they're based off of, which to be fair, the new movies do constantly as well, including Endgame breaking its own time travel rules, but that's not an excuse really... Just indicative of how Marvel just doesn't care anymore about their "lore" when people can grab infinity stones willy-nilly like they're no big deal after 10 years of build-up...

  • @ArcTrooperRod-269
    @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 5 měsíci +4

    _5:24__ Another Good example was Iron Man Armored Adventures, Since that show had to work with primitive tools to perfect the 3D, They used there the Cell-Shading To mask the lack of texture & hide that with Plain Colors in the characters, while for the Backgrounds they used the classic Painted Volume over a Plain Surface_
    *& That's one of the reasons of why that show aged AMAZINGLY WELL*

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 Před 5 měsíci +22

    Honestly, even as someone who enjoyed what if, I can’t really dispute any of these claims.
    I especially agree with the point about the concepts for the what, if being kind of lame. Don’t give me wrong, I find the episodes enjoyable, but who was honestly asking themselves “ I love the MCU, but wouldn’t it be interesting if Peggy became a super soldier and then went back to the 1600s to the medieval Avengers?”
    No, the alternate realities we want to see are things like “What if the other half survived the blip?” but I’m guessing they’re not allowed to tell that story “we only win in one timeline” (which can I just say, as much as I love infinity war and endgame I always thought that was BS.)
    Or, if you want to get more creative, how about what if like “What If Ho Yinsen became Iron Man?” in which Tony Stark gets gunned down in the cave, so Ho is forced to put on the Mark one suit and single-handedly fight off the 10 rings. Then, instead of becoming a world, famous superhero, he becomes a local freedom fighter.
    I literally just came up with that, and I think that would be more interesting than some of the what if we got, regardless of how entertaining they are to watch.

  • @moviehermit5631
    @moviehermit5631 Před 5 měsíci +8

    The Watcher: "I don't do sequels"
    *A third of Season 2 has the same Captain Carter as the main character*
    I also feel like they could play around with more concepts, like the Avengers sequence of Captain Carter's second solo episode where it showed Wasp in the Battle of New York (a concept that was cut from the movie). It could incorporated deleted scenes and original plans that were rewritten with alternate designs, concept suits. Depending on the rights, they could do stuff like "What if Spider-man joined the Avengers in AOU" (which was a possibility but the deal between Marvel and Sony wasn't in place yet), "What if the Avengers encountered the X-Men", "What if The Amazing Spider-man met the Avengers", etc (I really want more Spider-man episodes. Captain Carter's had a total of 5 between both seasons, Korg was part of a team in two episodes, and yet we only got Spider-man in one episode that felt like it was speeding through the story with nobody caring about the characters who died)

  • @phantomstrider
    @phantomstrider Před 5 měsíci +1

    Did you have a link to when you covered the original what if series? I loved that series and would really enjoy hearing your take on it. I tried searching but couldn't find it. Thanks!

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  Před 5 měsíci +2

      It's not my best work but here's a link to the playlist: czcams.com/play/PLWnodvDLSHxtfjxHwnxGYYJl5PbwY5h5p.html

  • @maxpokebruh27
    @maxpokebruh27 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Star Wars Visions is way better with its animation and art styles.

    • @maxpokebruh27
      @maxpokebruh27 Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@Julianjulesr1361whoa no way, I thought they ALL came from American studios.

    • @jesquivias098
      @jesquivias098 Před 5 měsíci +1

      The Issue is
      No one ever talked about visions
      Yeah A few people did talk a out it when it comes out
      But it goes silent after

  • @Shine0222
    @Shine0222 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Biggest problem for me outside the story stuff, the animation is dreadful. It's just stiff undynamic models that are cell shaded to high hell to try and make up for the lack of artistry.

  • @lobruh9039
    @lobruh9039 Před 5 měsíci +6

    What If the show was good?

    • @maximillianlylat1589
      @maximillianlylat1589 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@Julianjulesr1361most definitely. I hated most of season one. This one has been a lot more enjoyable

    • @Okoko73g
      @Okoko73g Před 5 měsíci

      @@maximillianlylat1589 Season two was terrible the show is called what if yet we got 5 eps of peggy when the show isnt suppose to have main characters and peggy being able to fight doctor strange without the infinity stones is straight bullshit shes a superhuman if i was to power scale her the most she can get to is wall level and somehow she was able to fight a universal threat aka doctor strange

  • @jackbray2364
    @jackbray2364 Před 5 měsíci +3

    The comic artist behind the look of spectacular spider-man was sean gallerway

  • @ArcTrooperRod-269
    @ArcTrooperRod-269 Před 5 měsíci +2

    9:34 *THAT'S WHY ARMORED ADVENTURES IS MY GOAT!*

  • @Leo_artistero
    @Leo_artistero Před 5 měsíci +2

    X-men Evolution balanced the animation quality with a real new cool art-style.

  • @LucasHopkins2006
    @LucasHopkins2006 Před 5 měsíci +4

    9:31 I’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, always happy to see recognition for Armored Adventures, it’s starting to feel like people are looking back at that and giving it credit more and I am here for it

  • @zachryder3150
    @zachryder3150 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Young Hope in s2e2 looking indistinguishable from adult Jane Foster is embarrassing when it comes to the art style.

  • @marlo176
    @marlo176 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Yes, I 100% agree, I just don't feel that engaged with What If?

  • @daniboypicazzo
    @daniboypicazzo Před 5 měsíci +4

    I'm not here to try to defend the show or something, but a lot of the problems you have with the show (not actually counting the art style because even though they are more fluid yeah it's still the same) got better in the season 2. I think you should give it a chance. It ain't perfect by a long shot, but I think it's better than the first season.

  • @Ismatic1906
    @Ismatic1906 Před 5 měsíci +4

    I’d love a show with a similar style to Iron Man armored adventures. It always held up stylistically because of its art style, I don’t know if I can say the same with this show…

  • @adzinco6916
    @adzinco6916 Před 5 měsíci +4

    i'm 90% sure they used the pen tool over images of the actors when designing the characters. there's no exagerration in the designs to make them appealing and work in animation. even the the weirdly real looking cg christmas carol movie has some exaggeration in the characters

  • @ThePonderer
    @ThePonderer Před 5 měsíci +4

    I liked it better than season 1, and I’m actually eager to get season 3, so that counts for something.

  • @SamMcGaw
    @SamMcGaw Před 5 měsíci +1

    What if … a random guy breaks into your universe to show you some exercises

  • @leeviheiskanen1271
    @leeviheiskanen1271 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I would love to see variants being actually different, like with different accents, voices and different appearances instead of just being the exact same person just with dofferent life choices
    Maybe even their fighting styles and powers could be different too to really ponder *what if* because I am honestly not giving a single crap about any of these variants

  • @jagmek3418
    @jagmek3418 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I thought I was alone in this, particularly when you mentioned how the What Ifs felt so boring, like they were scraping from the bottom of the barrel. Nebula in Nova Corp and Tony on Sakar sounded cool but then you Happy Saved Christmas or Hela found the Ten Rings and I'm like "Who cares!" They're not coming with interest concepts, it just feels like they're running out of them which is crazy because there so much potential in the Marvel Universe.

  • @nicolast62002
    @nicolast62002 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I think What If should have been more like SW Visions with its style

  • @TheOtakuNinja69
    @TheOtakuNinja69 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I was disappointed with what they did to Spider-Man in the “What If”. Especially the Zombies episode it seems like he doesn’t care to try to keep his identity a secret.

    • @halal_spider9722
      @halal_spider9722 Před 5 měsíci

      Everyone is literally dead who cares

    • @THEINFINITIVERSESAGA
      @THEINFINITIVERSESAGA Před 5 měsíci

      Why da 4ck would anyone care bout secret identity in a superhero zombie apocalypse

  • @markerikson7423
    @markerikson7423 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I'd say the 2nd and 3rd episodes of season 2 are my favorites, with the former taking full advantage of the concept and the latter just being completely insane from the moment of Hammer time.

  • @Fan-Nimater101
    @Fan-Nimater101 Před 5 měsíci +4

    I think this season was a improvement

  • @DuneStone6816
    @DuneStone6816 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This season made me realize the writers are probably approaching the show from an entirely different starting point from what I expected. When thinking of episode concepts, I expected, like you, the formula would be "We alter this one event and follow the butterfly effect." But now I'm pretty sure the actual process is "I want to tell a story about this character in this situation. How the character gets into that situation isn't important." And that is why most of these episodes don't make sense or require multiple changes in order to happen. The entire creative process was backwards.

  • @puggietaur
    @puggietaur Před 5 měsíci +8

    I agree with the sentiment but personally I'm far more critical of the writing of this show. Not a single episode so far has been good, tons and tons of characters are written out of character, the plots in a vacuum often are filled with holes and contrivances, and like you said they change things that shouldn't be changed because they happened before the timeline split off (although the things you listed for the captain carter episode are results of previous parts, the issue is that hydra already had the tesseract before steve became cap yet in the episode it happened after, which allowed peggy to steal it leading to the hydra stomper being created. also the tentacle monster thing is really stupid and red skull is ruined by that episode).
    by season 2 i'm fine with the repeat appearances of captain carter because they did some genuinely interesting stuff with her even if they fumbled it by the end. season 2 is an improvement upon season 1 but that's just because season 1 is the second worst thing i've ever seen and season 2 is just like 2/10 bad
    also L&T > season 1 of what if. the only thing i'd consider worse is loki (i'm aware that's an extremely hot take, im not justifying it in youtube comments but i do have a video critique of its first episode so you can go check that out for a peek at why i consider loki to be the absolute worst)

  • @Arkus
    @Arkus Před 5 měsíci +1

    While I enjoyed a few episodes, there are a lot of flaws. Like you said, it's premise of What If one thing happened differently is a bit of a lie. For the events of Captain Carter to happen, Red Skull would also have to get the Tesseract much later than he did in the movie so Carter could steal it. So really the title should be "What If Peggy became the first Avenger and Red Skull was slower in his plans?"

  • @LilMissThor
    @LilMissThor Před 5 měsíci +2

    I can't even say that I really love/hate the series. I'm just so tired of Marvel films and shows. I got burnt out on Infinity War, and there doesn't really seem to be anything that Marvel does that isn't either a retread, inspired by, or an amalgamation of something I already read in the comics.
    What ifs are neat... if you're invested in the original scenario enough to appreciate the shake up of the status quo. And I can't say I've been invested in the MCU for a good while now.

  • @creedecriswell634
    @creedecriswell634 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What if Channel Pup loved Batman more than spider-man?!

  • @DarthTingleBinks
    @DarthTingleBinks Před 5 měsíci +8

    You should definitely watch season 2. There's only like one episode that feels like a season 1 episode, but the other eight episodes are all pretty good. Basically while there was one great episode in season 1, season 2 has that basically all the time. Not all of them are quite AS good as the Doctor Strange episode, but they're pretty close. I can understand disliking season 1. That's kinda common. But I probably would've waited to watch season 2 before making this video. Though you could always make a follow up after watching season 2 giving your thoughts on the second season.

  • @ADSNavarro
    @ADSNavarro Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hey pup, have you seen Loki Season 2?

  • @blacksnk
    @blacksnk Před 5 měsíci

    What If or The Captain Carter show. I still haven’t watched all of the episodes. That’s how invested I am.

  • @a-bomb7779
    @a-bomb7779 Před 5 měsíci

    Are you still going to watch review the season 2 episodes?

  • @Multiversal_Productions
    @Multiversal_Productions Před 5 měsíci +4

    As a gotg fan (like gotg is the thing that made me even bother with the mcu), T'challa's star lord episode was honestly horrible. They took away Peter Quill and then completely butchered T'challa's character just to make a version of "Star Lord" (which t'challa shouldn't have that name, it was the name Peter's mother gave him) and made him perfect, unbeatable. no stakes whatsoever.
    it was awful, as a gotg fan, I would have LOVED a what if scenario like "what if Ronan actually wiped out Xandar?" "what if Adam Warlock was ready in the end battle of vol 2" "what if Yondu survived"
    no, we get NOTHING, WE LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!
    oh and as a huge Sam Wilson/Captain America fan... Captain Carter is the biggest tragedy this show brought us and the creators should be ashamed of their forced fan fic.

  • @ELECTRICSHEEP94
    @ELECTRICSHEEP94 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This season was spectacular and probably improvement of the last season.

  • @jamalsimmons619
    @jamalsimmons619 Před 5 měsíci +2

    CONGRATULATIONS ON THE 97K SUBSCRIBERS PUP GREAT WORK! ALSO HAVE A WONDERFUL NEW YEARS 2024 THE YEAR OF BEE THEORY 🐝!😊

  • @optimascrime5235
    @optimascrime5235 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It wasn't perfect but What If season 2 had a handful of episodes I liked but even those weren't perfect, the episodes were ither not long enough or some of the idea's weren't fully explored, Overall it wasn't as fun to watch as season 1 and that wasn't perfect ither......Funny enough Disney plus removed Spectacular Spider-Man for no reason and that's the best Modern day Marvel animated show, Disney's probably sour because thier Marvel animated stuff is nowhere near as good as of right now at least

  • @theincrediblebray5686
    @theincrediblebray5686 Před 5 měsíci

    Better Episode concepts (IMO)
    *What If, Captain Marvel joined the Avengers in 2012
    *What If, Thor was banished to earth during WW2?
    *What If, Steve Rogers was found by Hydra instead of Bucky?
    *What If, Hulk was killed by Abomination?
    *What If, Thanos killed the other half of our heroes?
    *What If, Peter Parker was given the Ant-Man suit?
    *What If, Hawkeye died instead of Quicksilver?

    I’d love to hear more ideas if anyone has any.

    • @THEINFINITIVERSESAGA
      @THEINFINITIVERSESAGA Před 5 měsíci

      *ILL DO YOU ONE EVEN BETTER*
      What is High Evolutionary took rockets brain
      What if Nebula or Peter Snapped the Stone
      What if Peter Parker became the Punisher (after achieving his vengeance against Norman)
      What if Thor Never Changed
      What if malekith won
      What if Percy Jackson wasn’t the only child of Poseidon( OC based with different storyline)
      What if 2014 Thanos won
      What if the other Avengers weren’t Snapped
      What if StarLord Still Had His Powers
      What if Odin Never Woke Up
      What if She Hulk Learnt a Hard Lesson
      What if Marvel said No to Disney
      What if Dhar Mann Bought Disney after it’s last Flop
      What if Black Bolt Could Speak
      What if the One Above All Intervened

    • @callmesenpaidesu1506
      @callmesenpaidesu1506 Před 5 měsíci

      the last one.... get this man a pan HE COOKIN

  • @isaacfields7923
    @isaacfields7923 Před 5 měsíci

    The only Ifs I cared for were, Yellow Jacket murders everyone and The 80s Avengers Vs Ego... Yeah...

  • @Acesuper811
    @Acesuper811 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I actually enjoyed this season alot.the improvement is huge step from season 1 give it a try the stories actually intriguing and fun this time lol

  • @Spider-Man-257
    @Spider-Man-257 Před 5 měsíci

    There is one episode that I would like called What if Spider-Man was or became the Sorcerer supreme based on the first season art when you see Spider-Man wearing the Cloak thay Dr. Strange wears.

  • @SpeedDemon55
    @SpeedDemon55 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I have not watched a Marvel show since Moon Knight season 1 ruined my life.

  • @THEINFINITIVERSESAGA
    @THEINFINITIVERSESAGA Před 5 měsíci

    20:46 I’m not even a film student but I don’t even think you understand the concept of building up suspense to a topic 🤦‍♀️🤦🤦‍♂️

  • @zwhitez
    @zwhitez Před 5 měsíci

    Gotta disagree on the Tom Hiddelston perspective personally. He’s had multiple different VA roles since before he even started as Loki back in 2011, and has proceeded to have more since. He’s narrated multiple movies, he was on Robot Chicken and Family Guy, as well as voicing a lead in The Pirate Fairy, a full length feature. Maybe not the most talented VA ever, but he certainly does have experience and I think does a fine job as well

  • @thatmovienitpicker8070
    @thatmovienitpicker8070 Před 5 měsíci

    ok, visually, i think season two is a lot better looking than season one. it feels a lot more stylized with a cool painted background aesthetic (especially in the Nebula episode).

  • @RJH755
    @RJH755 Před 5 měsíci

    I wish it was more like Star Wars Visions

  • @gamepitchway3500
    @gamepitchway3500 Před 5 měsíci

    What if should have taken example from Netflix love death and robot. Which is more like a one of story with unique animation style and have awesome stories, what if should have the artist and creators to have a filled day and just express themselves with all kinds of efforts.

  • @tysonvance
    @tysonvance Před 5 měsíci

    "I haven't really watched it, I skimmed it"
    Then proceeds to review it....

  • @tmdoray
    @tmdoray Před 5 měsíci

    8:42 : pretty sure it’s Sean “Cheeks” Galloway - saw his stuff at comic con San Diego once. He’s got a real signature style. Loved Spectacular Spider-Man and super sad it didn’t run longer.

  • @Leo_artistero
    @Leo_artistero Před 5 měsíci

    What if looks like pre-vis footage with better rendered models, but the same rigid animation

  • @Scumner
    @Scumner Před 4 měsíci

    Would you ever be free to appear on our Doctor Who podcast? I'd love to chat to you some time, been a big fan for years!

  • @callmesenpaidesu1506
    @callmesenpaidesu1506 Před 5 měsíci

    what if the watcher was a simp for a peg

  • @fabrizioleao1101
    @fabrizioleao1101 Před 5 měsíci

    You're right. But if you're going to review or rant about it, you should've watched the whole show.
    Heck, the s2 finalle even confirms your points, but the video was probably edited prior and there's no use in going back when you have to catch up to the youtube algorythm.

  • @patrickmcguire7896
    @patrickmcguire7896 Před 5 měsíci +1

    You should review season 2

  • @theoutsiderjess4869
    @theoutsiderjess4869 Před 5 měsíci

    I really enjoy Marvels what if slightly disappointed there wasnt one based on movies this season. Also where was spidernan this season

  • @nerdyoutube7847
    @nerdyoutube7847 Před 5 měsíci

    I enjoy this if I turn off my brain but my biggest complaint is the constant pop culture references

  • @brickzoneanimations8395
    @brickzoneanimations8395 Před 5 měsíci

    Listen im a sucker for What if Stories but listen What if Season 1 was great My fav episode from Season 1 was What if Ultron won? and in Season 2 definitely better and improved alot! we got a lot character development! Nebula, Hank, Gamora, Strange Supreme and even Hela The irredeemable sister from Thor 3? was now redeemed and I love it! We even got new faces like Kahori she was very cool! sure the villain was Strange but Season 2 is better than season 1 sure Season 1 had a better villain than Season 2 but I still find Season 2 the superior season!

  • @callmesenpaidesu1506
    @callmesenpaidesu1506 Před 5 měsíci

    animation is alot to ask what if each dimension was slightly colored differently

  • @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv
    @EdgardoJCruz-dk5kv Před 5 měsíci

    I honestly felt Season 2 was much better than Season 1 in terms of overall quality and variety.

  • @Anthonycheesman33
    @Anthonycheesman33 Před 5 měsíci

    I mean it’s better than season 1 and is the closest thing to peak mcu we’ve gotten lately .

  • @iamawesome4026
    @iamawesome4026 Před 18 dny

    I watched what if and it was an awesome show

  • @skybite
    @skybite Před 5 měsíci

    The show played it too safe and relied too much on the MCU’s status Quo

  • @cofagrigusfan24
    @cofagrigusfan24 Před 4 měsíci

    I personally like What If...?
    but then again, I don't care much about Marvel...
    only thing Marvel I really watch are What If...? and Deadpool

  • @kylegene-8097
    @kylegene-8097 Před 5 měsíci

    your the dude i met omagke

  • @bekindrewind3339
    @bekindrewind3339 Před 5 měsíci

    The cross overs really bother me, it really defeats the purpose of episodic stories

  • @premiumsucc2162
    @premiumsucc2162 Před 5 měsíci

    What if she didn’t take the kids

  • @HSB819
    @HSB819 Před 4 měsíci

    The ideas they have are so boring, oh what if this character was replaced with this character, that idea was used so many times in season one, it's how everyone described the show.

  • @homuraakemi493
    @homuraakemi493 Před 5 měsíci

    What if channelpup still cared?

  • @peterand
    @peterand Před 5 měsíci

    So many avenues to explore and we get given 3 peggy carter episodes - who is asking for this?

  • @3k-ace271
    @3k-ace271 Před 5 měsíci

    When are they going to release what if the fan base still gave a fuck?

  • @Omnigreen
    @Omnigreen Před 5 měsíci +2

    This season is such a boring trash

  • @diogobarata6346
    @diogobarata6346 Před 5 měsíci

    It was so BAD. As an historian I am sick of watching the Native Americans as people who mean no harm to anyone; and as people who were living in peace until the Spanish arrived. It is so FAKE. Tribal warfare was far more brutal, and common than anything the Spanish ever did. Hence why the majority of the natives allied with the Spanish.
    Ps: Just search for the Lienzo Tlaxcala, and you’ll know why.

  • @stantheman4443
    @stantheman4443 Před 5 měsíci

    The narrator just answered his own question while being cynical to prove his own opinion, meaning "it's targeted towards kids" so if you're an adult watching a kids show hey that ok but "It's Targeted Towards Kids" Now are we having fun yet. 🤪

  • @MrEi8trak
    @MrEi8trak Před 5 měsíci

    The what if comic book stories are so much better than these episodes

  • @la3g462
    @la3g462 Před 5 měsíci

    What if is a MCU echo chamber. If disney MCU is your thing, then you'll probably like this. If ur more marvel 616, this may feel soulless and lack substance to you

  • @BrianMoviesMaker
    @BrianMoviesMaker Před 5 měsíci

    I don’t see many hardcore marvel fanboys like “Organized Chaos” or comicbookcast2 coming after you and defending marvel tv anymore lol

  • @happyhoildays2010
    @happyhoildays2010 Před 5 měsíci

    The last episode was a marry sue worst episode

  • @patrickmcguire7896
    @patrickmcguire7896 Před 5 měsíci +1

    While I completely agree with you on Season 1 I will defend season 2. In terms of storytelling its much more original and gives focus to heroes who weren't in the spotlight in the MCU. Also there's no replacing heroes with other heroes like in the first season which was also a pet peeve of mine to. Also the humor isn't to in your face, theirs one episode that is mostly for laughs but its the Christmas themed episode and come off as fun, unlike with Zombies its not out of place and unlike frat boy Thor the idea for the episode makes sense. And yeah Captain Carter is in a few episodes but I feel like they flesh her out here. Really the only dud is the final episode but I enjoyed more episodes so it didn't matter to me. Anyway I hope you give Season 2 a chance

  • @sstevenz8997
    @sstevenz8997 Před 5 měsíci

    WHAT IF season 2 became toooooo feminist, every woman is over powered, every woman is smarter than men, women don't need no men. The men where none existent, always simps for women.. everything was about captain Carter. Why did they add pocahontas? She was over powered too..😠. Valcery became king again WTF!!? Even Tony Starks episode was about women. WtF!

  • @banonKING
    @banonKING Před 5 měsíci

    ................ it's called "what if?"

  • @Non-Legit
    @Non-Legit Před 5 měsíci

    The animation is so damn sauceless and it ends up distracting me so much

  • @benpage-mn1bd
    @benpage-mn1bd Před 5 měsíci

    There is not problem with anything animation so let it go please

  • @vincentwhite8846
    @vincentwhite8846 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Very lame show what if is 😢

  • @ryanscoffeehour6404
    @ryanscoffeehour6404 Před 5 měsíci

    This is the first show that made you feel this way? They have been running with this feeling since the end of the last phase.
    Also no one should be supporting these streaming services, esspecially since they are ran and hold so many mfs who went to epstein island and the tens of others that are just like it. Marvel has become a propaganda campaign.
    Also yes, as an artist myself its bad art. The lighting is horrid, the colors are flat and the movement is rigid, the clothing looks like an extra skin and stiff, and despite being 3D, the images are all flat, the art has bo depth perception, which is not excusable when there are computer programs that will do this for you, esspecially the lighting. And the 90s series are done in fantastic American traditional, puting emphasis on more proper human proportions. Esspecially Spider-Man. The 90 series where hardly cheaply done. Freeing yourself from the constraints of proper proportion allows for more fantastical movements and can give more "style", but keeping the proportions as proper as possible while counting in perspective and lighting is significantly more difficult. Making something more "realistic" when it comes to the body and locations will always be harder to draw than something that is made to be cartoony. A goofy simple drawing is always easier. Coming from someone with 24+ years of experience in traditional paper, pencile, and ink, artistic creation.
    Besides all this all these critisims are 100% spot on...and yeah...brand loyalty is kinda apart of the problem. People cant complain amd then continue to consume. When that happens all the critisisms are invalidated by the actions, for nothing will cjange as everyone stays the same and continues to watch.
    "Corprate masterbation" is the best description of marvel these days.

  • @terribletimes902
    @terribletimes902 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This video is weird. You admit you only skimmed Season 2 then go on to only talk about Season 1 episodes to make the point that the MCU and What If? specifically are still going in this cynical direction.
    Every point you made about Season 1 is how I felt too, but I don’t think all of it applies to Season 2. It’s a significant step up. It’s hard to agree with your conclusion when it sounds like you didn’t really engage with Season 2 but still want to apply all of the previous season’s faults to it.

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  Před 5 měsíci +3

      Better is better, and from what I've seen of Season 2 (which was clips as I don't currently have access to my Disney Plus account), yeah, I do think Season 2 is better. The basic hypotheticals are an improvement. The thing is, it does improve it, but it doesn't really solve the problems with it. It's still more concerned with superficial mashups than it is challenging the characters, it still relies on a lot of the tropes and overall structure of the first season, it still has the bland uninspired artstyle.
      Don't get me wrong, from what I've seen, it is a step up, but it doesn't fix the issues I had with season 1.

    • @joshknowsnothing
      @joshknowsnothing Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@ChannelPupi hope you get to seeing it because, as a long time follower of yours, i think there are some moments you might acknowledge have more creative thought to it, albeit a lot of the goodwill i had towards this season went away when they went back to crossover territory because at this stage im tired of seeing MCU characters enter scenes through portals and say something like "Come with me, we have unfinished business" to shoehorn teamups.

  • @Spider-Guy62
    @Spider-Guy62 Před 5 měsíci

    Damn I am “early”

  • @jesquivias098
    @jesquivias098 Před 5 měsíci

    Still better than the flash

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  Před 5 měsíci

      Movie or TV show? Movie, easily. TV show, for the most part, also true.

    • @speedflashanimations221
      @speedflashanimations221 Před 5 měsíci

      @@ChannelPupthe movie
      In so many ways

  • @epicevanhogan6489
    @epicevanhogan6489 Před 5 měsíci

    Do you even know how Fortnite works?

    • @ChannelPup
      @ChannelPup  Před 5 měsíci

      Yeah it's simple, y'see:
      We got a number one Victory Royale
      Yeah, Fortnite, we 'bout to get down (get down)
      Ten kills on the board right now
      Just wiped out Tomato Town
      My friend just got downed
      I revived him, now we're heading south-bound
      Now we're in the Pleasant Park streets
      Look at the map, go to the marked sheet
      Take me to your Xbox to play Fortnite today
      You can take me to Moisty Mire, but not Loot Lake
      I really love to Chug Jug with you
      We can be pro Fortnite gamers
      He says
      "Hey broski, you got some heals and a shield pot?"
      "I need healing and I am only at one HP"
      Hey dude, sorry, I found nothing on this safari
      I checked the upstairs of that house but not the underneath yet
      There's a chest that's just down there
      The storm is coming fast and you need heals to prepare
      I've got V-Bucks that I'll spend
      More than you can contend
      I'm a cool pro Fortnite gamer (cool pro Fortnite-)
      Take me to your Xbox to play Fortnite today
      You can take me to Moisty Mire, but not Loot Lake
      I really love to Chug Jug with you
      We can be pro Fortnite gamers
      La la la, la la
      La la la, la la
      La la la, la la
      Will you be my pro Fortnite gamer? (Pro Fortnite gamer)
      Can we get a win this weekend?
      Take me to Loot Lake
      Let's change the game mode and we can Disco Dominate
      Let's hop in an ATK
      Take me to the zone
      I'm running kind of low on meds, I need to break some stone
      Dressed in all his fancy clothes
      He's got Renegade Raider and he's probably a pro
      He just shot my back
      I turn back and I attack
      I just got a Victory Royale
      A Victory Royale
      Take me to your Xbox to play Fortnite today
      You can take me to Moisty Mire, but not Loot Lake
      I really love to Chug Jug with you
      We can be pro Fortnite gamers