Fixing a Carburettor with Modern Electronics - THE SKID FACTORY
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- čas přidán 14. 02. 2022
- Do carburettors need electronics or just a screwdriver and a tightly laced pair of New Balance sneakers?
In this episode of The Carby Factory we add a Haltech VMS and some essential sensors to Johns Turbo 351 Cleveland powered XC Falcon Ute in preparation for a return to the track.
The Haltech VMS controls the ignition system, boost control, transbrake and launch control and Nitrous control as well as fuel pumps and Thermo fans. It also data logs and sends data to the IC7 dash via CAN.
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Do carburettors need electronics or just a screwdriver and a tightly laced pair of New Balance sneakers?
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Sneakers al sneakers.... if it requires more than a screwdriver sneakers for the win .
Turbo fuel injection glory purity
I think in Australia it’s Dunlop sk26s that are needed for foot wear
And a hammer.
Na, mate. New Balance and jean shorties are for Corvettes.
All you need is the Hoff with a drill
After fixing my over filling toilet today (scale encrusted rubber seal fixed with a vinegar dip) I realise I was in fact 'tuning' the toilet. I shall not be adding boost. :)
...maybe not today, maybe not tommorrow, but one fine day, the boost will surely come...
@@wirefortyseven8707 All it takes is a stop at Taco Bell...
I add boost to mine daily🤣👍🇦🇺
Love that new skid intro guys, perfection
The 'toasty' made me snort out my coffee, thanks... Nice to see the possibilities of adding the right technology!
I too enjoyed the mortal Kombat video game reference. Is woody old enough to know what it meant though?
@@AJ-oj5eu Haha yeah, I picked up the MK reference too, it was spot on and made me chuckle
11.46 isn't close to enough Skid Factory goodness . Thanks for the vid boys .
Can't wait to see The Hoff tune this by drilling out the jets like the rotary a while back.
Using the industry standard methods that the hoff is so good at! Fully calibrated drill bits!! Yew!!!!!!
Scotty is the man!!! Looking forward to that video!
My thought exactly!
Back in the day, my mates would drill out jets 2.5 times bigger on their speedway sidecar bikes for methanol.
Pro tip- you wont be nervous watching an oil guage if you don't have one. Even better, ground the sender so you get maximum pressure at all times. Stay tuned for more.
Or just do it like Subaru, Sender pulls signal to ground when no pressure. Disconnect signal from sender, never get low pressure.
Sometimes this is actually true, the more guages you have the more you just stress about any slightly abnormal reading haha
As we say here in Brazil, just talking stupid for fun: "A carburetor is like fuel injection but wireless" hehehe
i have never heard that before... brilliant
Carbs are a barely controlled fuel leak!
Toilet reference, brilliant.
@@markdammes1947 more like a livestock water bowl
Absolutely brilliant. 👍
With the oil pressure on the gauge during each pull at the drags I would say a teardown is a great idea-along with a baffled sump!
I can sense the love of a carb on this show.
they wont like coming to my workshop cos its all carbs
Years ago, explaining to my girlfriend how carburettors work, she responded with "like a toilet?" After my initial indignant shock, I had to concede, Yes, like a toilet.
But can rugby league players get photographed having a romantic moment with someone in a carby?
There's a reason they call single point injection systems "Toilet bowl injection"
You can tell Al has been watching plenty of Gale Banks with his love of "data"
Whoa, plot twist! And yep: new intro is A1+
What a plot twist at the end! "We were heading to the dyno, but first we had to take the engine out." 😲😁🤪
As always, great explanations and knowledge given. Thanks, guys
Toasty was nice touch but having Dan Forden appear at the side was beautiful 😂
Great Walter and Pinkman impression guys. Very interesting and informative content
Grat new intro! Data is king! Looking forward to seeing inside a clevo!
Very informative and entertaining as usual boys
Very well put, Al.
Great video guys!!
Love the new intro honestly much better
Sick!!!!! Turbo Yoda may not be a fan of the carburetor, but I for one am thoroughly enjoying these episodes
Some great info guys 👍
Ahh the editing made me laugh hard!! Thanks woody!!!
Nice watching
Love the new intro!
👌for the condensed intro
Very informative 👏 well dones
New intro is on point gents, matches the gold content in the video. 👍
Awesome, I wanted to check out the clevo build!
New intro is ACE!!!
Nice carby description. A controlled fuel leak :) Engagement! Algorithm!
The new intro is sick!
I remember as a kid trying to learn the difference between carby and efi.. dad was telling me how simple it was.. I would say its alright when you grow up with advancing technology you dont need to stuff it all in your head at once.. Now i know more than him lol
Tech will always advance,never retard, unless we have a world wide calamity.
Love that intro
The. " uhmm" cut. For the win
I run an MSD billet distributor fully locked out and advanced to 42 deg BTDC on my SBC. Then an MSD 6AL2 programmable timing box to handle all the delay vs rpm to get your timing curve. You can even hook up a MAP and program some vacuum advance. I haven't done that yet.
You’re insane. Throw all that shit away and modernize it.
@@TML34 been together like this for 10 years. If only I was less responsible or money grew on trees. Full blown EFI would cost more than the built SBC I have!
@@TML34 hahah best reply. All that tech he mentioned would’ve been fapped over in older street machine magazines 😂
Best ignition box going. Initially made for pro stock. Can do all the stuff Al mentioned in one simple box. No stacking of boxes. A programmable ignition curve on the fly, just like the Haltec. ability to trigger retards by 12 volt switched power. Very good bit of kit. Don’t listen to the knockers mate. Keep it old school.
@@madrew2003 fair enough.
Killer out takes!😂
1:23 I love how you guys put in the Mortal Kombat "TOASTY!" reference in there, I was laughing way too much on that.
Like the new intro very dappa
new intro is mint
New intro, nice.
when you guys started that weapon in the shed i had a mad max Vietnam flash back, it sounds identical to the interceptor!
Tuning with screwdriver? Surely you mean drill bit? 😁
Also very clever with the new intro btw.
That was great. Top episode. I saw Woody the other day. Must have been getting his hair done down Ballantyne ct.
Cool intro 👍
the outtakes are great - seems like Al has my problem, with disfluency (the umms and arrs), having too much going on in your head and trying to get it all out in order.
looking forward to the rebuild.
Got to admit, despite all their short comings, the Clevos are the best sounding V8. Let the debate begin!
A Cleveland with 4 Weber 2 bbl's is best...
Hahaha not with an unmerged exhaust they don't.
100% correct , they sound great
maserati f136 is the most musical cross-plane i reckon
At full noise they’re an eargasm,, never gets old.
Dam, thats bad luck, john is a very talanted man
Used to run blow through and craw through carby setups back in the day but it was also a budget options and efi as absurdly eccy
Hako shirts are mint. Everyone comments on mine.
If you don’t have one. Get one.
The toasty was well appropriate. Made me giggle hard..
Was woody even a twinkle in his daddies eyes when the original MK was at the arcades?
Is this TSF's youtube shorts channel?? OH fyi, I purchased two shirts, the turbo bucket hat and a stubby holder and just wanted to say I was surprised with the quality. veddy niiice!
Al still loving that carby 😂
Would have been nice to see a more detailed installation. Keep it up. Curious to see what it makes on the dyno.
like the new intro
These outro's are getting Savage.🤣😂🤣😂🤣
I a boat is a hole in the water that you pour money into, a race car is a fire you shovel money into!
I do not mind the odd carburettor, never owned fuel injection till 2008. Owners of that car are even known these days to pull off the early 90s injection and putting on twin 45mm side drafts.
I have kept the injection on mine and have bought a second to try the carby route.
Bob Glidden ran Clevelands to the extreme. Without all the electronics. Old school know how is gone. If It don't have a computer to tell me what's wrong
I don't know how to fix it. Is the new way.
Make sure there’s a one way valve on the fuel lines.
In the shop where I used to work we had one ventilator with positive pressure and another one with negative pressure, and even with that we had "onion eyes," dry tongue and trouble breathing due to methanol vapor building up in the dyno room. Masks had a slight difference but they get saturated quickly. With EFI setups isn't that nasty compared to carburators, because it's nearly sealed, while carbs leak everywhere.
Were suck throughs any better?
The Ah ah uh Ahh uuuhhh at the end 😂 also, long live the carby’s!
When the Hoff tuned (chuned?) A carby on Nugget Garage he just drilled out the Jets until they were too big
Finished the car and loaded it up to dyno, instead of dumping the car we unloaded it and pulled the motor, cause race car. Reminds me of when I first started working on cars, lowered the car and opened the garage to take if for a test drive. Instead of a test drive I raised it back up and fixed me previous repair again.
Need more Ah, Um, compilations.
Gotta love the effect of methanol on the eyes lol
I think its going to be one of the most productive dyno sessions ever. A twin turbo cleveland should put daylight under the wheels on that ute. Sounds like not enough ignition lead to me at the moment.
If the engine is melting its plugs it has too much timing at high RPM and leaning out. With this set up, timing needs to be retarded as the RPMs climb. This is what you will see happen with the Haltec ignition system. They may also rejet the carb depending on the data they see...
a twist!
Wow what an emding
Well, that didn’t end the way I expected 🤷♂️
Mad
Big Chief just did this on his girl's small block nitrous car. Explaining the same thing... The video is up on Midwest Street Custom's CZcams channel
You were very nice about the 60s technology on this old V8. Only use carbs on my old 2 stroke bike and my chainsaw. At least now you’ll have some insight into what’s going on. Dizzys and carbs belong in a bin. You spend a day in the dyno and the blowby alone will make you half cut…. 😂
Curious about the coolant pressure sensor, not something i've seen before. What sort of readings would you expect from a sensor like that? Assuming the rad cap regulates pressure normally I assume you're looking for big spikes above rad cap pressure under boost? Technology can do some cool stuff
Can't wait until we see industry standard stuff and things...
👍
turbo yoda, is it possible to make a video with an in-depth view of the ignition setup on this engine? i.e cam sensor, crank angle sensor and how its all put together?
Hopefully the Hoff is better with Holleys than Webers. lol. Well do I remember the hand drilling of jets!
First carburetor were modified kerosine lamps....
Indeed. WW1 aircraft carbies had fuel drawing from a wick. More volatile fuel was more valuable for this reason, but knock became the next issue.
Caution needle and seat size. If they are to small the fuel presure gauge will read normal but your bowls are empty as cant keep up. Seen melted plugs and pistons from this.
Some classes still use carbs that class is called the Jurassic class😂🤣😂
oh joy
Where did You find the boost reference to the fuel pressure regulator? I think it has to be taken from between the compressor side of the turbo, to the carburetor hat.(?)
Here finally after my emergency Appendix Delete operation... 🤣
Yikes! Hope you’re on the recovery mate!
Don't need that anyway. Everyone's running 'electronic digestion injection' nowadays.
Gday fellas, if after all this tuning it is still lean or melting one or two plugs it could be the manifold if it’s ported and polished, I had nothing but dramas on my Procharged 565bbc with blow through C&S carb, a rough cast bottom inside the intake helps even out the fuel distribution as so much fuel comes through it turns into a river flowing unevenly over a polished surface and into favoured ports, you may not have this drama but just something to think about if you can’t get an even plug read. Cheers
@Rvve Duio they work well once sorted, easy to start and fairly reliable, on e85 went 8.87@157mph in full weight street driven Nova
Rodney!!
Aussies know the deal..... what a monster. Oops then it broke :(
Can't wait. Thanks mr turbo yoda sir. And woodrigos
Dont talk to me about carbs... VB Comodores auto Choke 😬 and and XD Falcons in the middle of winter at like -2 in the morning 😉
You won’t flow enough methanol threw that carby with single needle and seats per float bowl, my E85 blow threw carby has dual needle seats, and all the internal passages in the demon carbs are way to small out of the box
All what you said is correct. Most methanol carbs run an electronic needle and seat to keep the bowls full.
Came to see how many got the "Toasty" reference. 🥊
Reckon there will be a new specifically built carb ordered for this one real soon from someone like CSU in the states
Or maybe ZOK in QLD
There is is main circuit enrichment underneath the center breather stud it probably needs opened up and the idle bleeds played with Demon carbs are a little different to play with bet its the adjustable main circuit if the jets didn't fix it and it could probably do with having the boosters played with they have a standard annular booster for methanol and they have one with larger ports for boosted applications
You might be onto something
Zok for the win. 👍🏻
wow Alan so much info in such a small time amazing job guys can this hall tech be use on a 4x carbs on a motorbike ??????
Yes it can.
thanks Alan what sort of cost we looking at im in the UK
oh rip full tear down over a loose mount.
I'm starting to see what can be done on a Cleveland. To do port EFI is it needed to use the cam sensor instead of a distributor and a crank sensor? Can you steer me in the right direction? In the states EFI on a Cleveland is a gray area.
You can use a distributor if you want but it needs to have the function internally to give a once per rotation pulse and also usually an 8 per rotation pulse. It’s easier IMO to just uses a crank signal, cam signal and individual coils.
"toasty" lol
"Daater" 🤣
Sidchrome a grand screwdriver
That was a plot twist