Better Call Cicero: Cui Bono
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00:00 Intro
01:34 Sulla and the Proscriptions
03:54 Sextii Roscii
07:03 Before the Trial
11:25 The Trial
14:00 Cicero's Speach
23:13 Aftermath
24:41 Outro
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Cicero: "Hi, I Marcus Tullius Cicero. Do you know you have rights? The twelve tables say you do, and so do I..."
Pullo: "Yeah, yeah. Whatever. Show me your neck, please..."
I believe every man, man, and man, is innocent until proven guilty!
Sir.
You won the comment section.
I bow to you.
@@proto566 „What’s the point of truth or beauty or knowledge when the anthrax bombs are popping all around you?”- ℬ𝓇𝒶𝓋ℯ 𝒩ℯ𝓌 𝒲ℴ𝓇𝓁𝒹, chapter 16
…my favorite book chapter of all time ☺️
Considering Cicero himself put citizens to death during Cataline conspiracy and supported Sulla during the proscriptions, he hardly could has complained about the next proscriptions even from a legal standpoint
Cicero: "Chysogonus is a curly-haired lil' bitch who paid _way_ too much for a pressure cooker. Therefore, my client is not guilty."
The Jury: "Based. We rule to acquit."
Imagine Cicero saying that with Saul Goodman's Voice
Marcus Cicero: Ace Attorney
Had to slightly edit and reupload this, because it got claimed and blocked by BBC
Rare BBC L
Edit: I'm dumb asf and I confused BBC with BCS (Better Call Saul) COMMON BBC L
Have you seen the BBC documentary India the Modi question it's a good documentary
Should've Called Cicero
@@christurner6330 “““rare”””
@@FourOf92000 Really really rare, you mean
Edit: nvm, youre right. Rare in a kilometer of quotes
"You clearly don't own a pressure cooker" - Marcus Tullius Cicero
I'm embarrassed to say that, out of all the incredible figures from the late Republic (Sulla, Caesar, Crassus, Pompey, Antony, Octavian), Cicero is the one I knew the least about. Thanks for giving me an insight into what a master of words he was!
Own*
Look at the top of his head!
Look at his Corinthian Bronze Vessel!!
(Wheeze)
"Hi, I'm Marcus Tullius Cicero. Did you know that you have rights? Constitution says you do. And so do I. I believe, until proven guilty; every patrician, peregrinus, and plebeian in this country is innocent. THAT'S WHY I FIGHT FOR YOU, ROMA!"
"My Boss told me I stole his Slave last night, I better call Cicero!"
"I was Having a party in my Vila with my friends and then I got into a Chariot accident, I Better Call Cicero!"
Se Habla Greek
10:00 "in an interesting historical coincidence, Cicero was born in the town of Saul." 😛
Cicero was my favourite character in "Rome". Of course I'd love to see more videos about him!!!
I will take this opportunity to remind people that 'Cicero' was Tullius' nickname, and it means 'chick pea'. He was a cute li'l chick pea! This is why stuffy Victorian men talking about Cicero called him 'Tullius' or 'Tully' for the longest time.
Victorian era Romaboos fear the sigma Roman homoeroticism
Another similarity to James "Jimmy" McGill
Cognomens started out with people getting nicknames that became hereditary. Sometimes people got pretty cruel nicknames like “Cross-eyed”.
@TheLordRichard my first name means the bald one in German 😢😂
but was the intention behind the nickname Cicero truly to denote his perceived cuteness?
Enough with the Imperium Romanum, we want more of the Respublica Romanum
Does this mean the Owner of the Guild of Millers is Gaius Fringus
Wow. I knew vaguely about this, but the actual story is really much more interesting than what I thought.
Another excellent video
Rewatching because this channel's quality is outstanding 👌👌 and yes! Of course we want more Cicero and other Republican figures
Now i can't stop thinking about the roman empire while whatching Saul Goodman
I'm realizing this is literally just an ace attorney case taking place in the Roman Republic
Oh god, imagine ancient Rome Ace Attorney. That would be lit.
As I read and enjoyed Robert Harris's trilogy about Cicero more videos would be great. The first novel pretty much begins with Cicero's prosecution of Gaius Verres.
Yes please, more Cicero. I enjoyed thoroughly every second. Great work sir.
Cicero: Cui Bono?
Erucius: Cui gives a shit, it's got a fucking bow on it.
I’m sorry you had to reupload this, but I still love learning more of the background of ol’ Slppin’ Cici. Keep them coming.
Cicero and John Adam’s are quite an interesting pair: both politicians who started out as lawyers, one who helped create a Republic, the other failed to preserve it.
Cicero was around way after the formation of the Republic
@@domenicfieldhouse5644 I know. I meant John Adams was the one who helped create the Republic, Cicero the one who failed to preserve it.
A ballsy thing to do to go after sulla's right hand man so brutally, but also very clever. If he has so little fear of the man's wrath that he will insult not only his character but everything about him then it's emboldens everyone in the jury to defy him too.
Please, more Cicero content!
The Grass Crown by Colleen McCullough is another great novelization of this era. It has a scene where Chrysogonus is satisfyingly thrown from the tarpian rock
Did that really happen or just put in the novel for dramatic effect?
@@januarysson5633 the author took poetic license. I like to believe it really happened though
I adore the First Man in Rome series.
Thank you so much, it was really motivating to hear as a law student
Glad you re-uploaded this video.
It's one of my favs of you😎👍🍻
Definitely more Cicero please!!
The adopted grandson of Scipio Africainus who conquered Macedonia was AEmilius Paulus, he then wore the following name : Lucius Cornelius Scipio Africanus AEmilius Paulus Macedonius ! His wife just called him Lulu.
21:04 I'm pretty damn sure that the dude wasn't doing any toiling in the fields. That's what slaves were for!
He probably delegate it to his slaves....
But he is definitely there in person with rhem6
Chrysogonus is a Greek name, and since he was an ex-slave of Sula, probably he was indeed Greek - to be noted many Greek slaves were not really chattel slaves or something, they were more like secretaries and aids and consultants and often held considerable economic social and sometimes political power such as in the case of Chrysogonus. So much prestigious were Greeks that Roman families of lower aristocracy often would give Greek names to their non-Greek slaves to show off as-if these were Greeks (indeed, incredibly funny). On the other hand, that meant that a number of Latins grew to resent the Greeks, and one such was of course Cicero. I did not know the case of his father and his, but under that light now I understand why he despised the Greeks.
Cicero’s life, and his noble accomplishments, still benefit all of us to this very day! What an amazing man. His efforts at saving the republic from tyranny in his latter years STILL bring tears to my eyes.
Cringe. The Senate was the tyranny.
Now i need movie/tv show about Cicero played by bob odenkrik
Thank you
I need some more cicero stories they great
More Cicero, please🙏🏽
Pretty much very GOT actor has played in a show/movie about rome b4 its hilarious.
more please
Honestly I think the Rome TV series did Cicero dirty. He came off as pathetic and weasley in the show but the guy was awesome IRL. Nothing but respect for my man trying to do anything he could to keep things together and avoid yet another horrific civil war/societal collapse.
Well Rome is set a lot later. Cicero didn’t do much during Caesar’s Civil War. First he was away in his province when it started and for longest time he thought Caesar and Pompeius would come to some agreement (those two probably did think it so as well but hardliners in Senate weren’t having a compromise) so Cicero wasn’t involved. He stayed around in Italia for a while after Caesar had arrived to Rome and Pompeians exited and had talks with Caesar, but decided to leave for the Pompeian camp. There he didn’t do much (he was not a military man or that against Caesar to push things) but was disturbed by some over confidence of the Senators. After he did hang out Greece in exile waiting Caesar to return from Egypt to pardon him. After he sat around lamenting in his letters the state of affairs but publicly just praying Caesar for his clemency.
When Cicero actually did have a big influence was after Caesar was killed. I haven’t seen second season of Rome but this is where Cicero should be one of the main characters in the first half of the season. After Antonius’s consulship ended (he was Caesar’s co-consul and there was somewhat of a truce between Caesarians and the assassins the nine months Antonius’s consulship lasted) Cicero made extremely hostile speeches against Antonius in the Phillipis. Which is one reason why the war against Antonius happened. Cicero also legitimized Octavian as an important figure in politics since he wanted to use the armies loyal to Octavian against Antonius. Octavian inheriting Caesar’s name didn’t mean he had any legimate political power due to his age and lack of elected or appointed office. But it was Cicero who supported him for a strange consulship. And unfortunately for Cicero and Republic, Antonius and Octavian did eventually settle their differences (and their troops didn’t even want to fight each other).
After that Cicero was proscribed and killed. So he didn’t manage accomplish anything after Caesar’s murder and made things worse. But maybe some things were inevitable, who knows. Rome show should have started with Marius and Sulla however. If that happened we would have seen more glory days of Cicero. Cicero was also over 60 by second season of Rome (although he doesn’t seem to look like it and Cato looks too old, he should be in his 40s). He was near retirement and not on top of his game.
Damn, roasted like a piece of curly haired meat in an overpriced pressure cooker.
Cicero: The GOAT.
And this is why I don't own a pressure cooker...
Give me your hands brother Cicero
Did not know he was such a badass
I was an avid reader of him before I got put on no fly list and that whole thing blew up and I went viral on the interwebs.
I'm guessing the tsa agents would be like Cicero who ?
I love slice of life Roman stories, especially of legal matters.
3:00 lmfao those email addresses made me crack up
I have a couple of Cicero's books translated into English, but I never heard this story of his first famous trial.
There is a Penguin Classics paperback "Cicero Murder Trials" that has this story as the first chapter.
Sadness
Can we make an educated guess about the fates of those involved through their exclusion from the records? When and why would Romans stop mentioning people in their records/follow-ups? Upon a return to the status quo? Upon death? Upon banishment or self-imposed exile?
Why would it be " a more likely explanation that he just wanted to take a break and not feared Sulla's wrath?" He might have gambled on Sulla not going after him immediately due to how tyrannical it would make him look, but Sulla certainly wasn't someone you antagonized without consequences. His sudden desire to further his education in Greece at the time he grew famous seems very much like someone laying low for fear of reprisals.
Sure, it may be that. But Cicero does so much to absolve Sulla of any blame by association that I don't think it was his primary concern. Also, Sulla was becoming much less involved in day-to-day politics at the time.
@@RomabooRamblings Cicero did, but regardless even assuming Chrysogonus acted without Sulla's approval (a very big if because Sulla made a fortune on the proscriptions ), it is still Sulla's authority and poor judgement that enables his ex-slave Chrysogonus to commit this crime and thus he obviously shares blame in Roscius murder, it's also shows the corruption of Sulla's proscription system itself.
Cicero knew his actions were a slight of the Roman dictator and he did so again in the citizenship case. He obviously calculated that Sulla wouldn't kill him, yet that ambitious Cicero after gaining all this prestige suddenly felt the need to go to Greece for a couple of years of education makes you wonder if he didn't get cold feet as Plutarch says.
Well he probably wanted there during the 2nd round of proscriptions...
Considering he just implied here that sulla might be neglectful or decadent to the things around and it's enough to scare Cicero off..
The 2nd time he lovingly antagonizes Marc Antony, welp he dead
I’ve heard that the works of Cicero used to be widely taught in the USA. I’d be curious to know why it was stopped/replaced.
Great video!
1958 if bing isworking right, though the process of colleges stopping latin requirements and class was more gradual in the early 1960's.
because our society is on the decline. i wonder when the romans stopped learning of Greek philosophy.
Because of the woke effort to rewrite history
Personally, I'd rather call Titus Quinctius Flamininus!! His giving the Greeks their Freedom at the Isthmian Games of Corinth, and Nemean Festival of Argos are Pure Excellence!!!
Excellent video. I was disappointed with the portrayal of Cicero in the tv series Rome. Where I found he was portrayed as quite a scared man. Not by the actor, who did a fine job of playing the scripted role. But in the script itself. This case along with many documented accounts of Cicero, show a bravery that few would have allowed to overwhelm a genuine threat of consequences. The people of Rome themselves referred to Cicero as ‘The Father or The Republic’, and such people did not show such respect lightly. Also a quick reminder of the work of Cicero’s slave Tiro, a man who kept accounts of Cicero’s speeches and life. A man who could it could also be argued was a the ‘Father of Shorthand’. As trying to keep up with Cicero’s oratory with long hand writing, would have been almost impossible. Necessity is indeed, the mother of invention ☺️
Very true, he risked his life many times to stand up for his beliefs, to stay in rome when caesar marched in, try to steer augustus towards the republic, to call out mark antony for being a piece of shit and many more. He did everything he could to protect the roman republic, and even took his death because of it like a man. There's a reason he was so respected.
Wait you mean he wasn't a green square?
Can someone tell me which piece of music is at the intro? I can tell it's Mozart but don't recognize the piece.
Clemency of Titus
@@RomabooRamblings thank you man, not only good content, but also good taste in music.
LOL @ Ser Allister Thorne.....
17:58 Kek
Hey, can we do a collaboration?
Just now subscribed. I can't place your accent. I'm curious, what's your first language?
wtf did the dog do to you, just to throw it in the river...
Cicero was the first Sigma Male in human history.
Lmao no.😂
Been many great men before.
Alexander the Great, Cyrus the great, Sargon of Akkad and many others.
Pretty sure Game of thrones is a TV show. Not a movie. But I’m being pedantic.
Yes, more Cicero please. A very timely story that in a lot of ways reflects what is going now in the US is how Cicero tried to talk Caesar out of crossing the Rubicon and ending the republic. Both the US and Rome started as monarchies, had revolts and become republics. Rome turned back into a dictatorship and if the Supreme Court let's Trump act "above the law," we will turn back into an authoritarian dumpster fire. When I found out I might be related, I started my interest in history and politics. I share Cicero's birthday and also grew up with Asthma and my grandfather had a "chickpea" on the side of his nose also. Cicero dedicated himself to saving Rome and I have dedicated myself to saving humanity from nuclear annihilation, I work for Peace Action to eliminate nuclear weapons. ...Peace ! Joe Cicero
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