Best Fake Quotes from Antiquity
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Footage:
Rome (2005-2007)
Alexander (2004)
Gladiator (2001)
Die Hard (1988)
The Big Short (2015)
Wonder Woman (2017)
Twilight Zone (1963)
Music:
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart - Clemency of Titus
Imperator: Rome Soundtrack - Tyrrenum
Imperator: Rome Soundtrack - Hegemony
Imperator: Rome Soundtrack - Unsung Heroes
Imperator: Rome Soundtrack - Nightwatch
Imperator: Rome Soundtrack - The Punic Wars
00:00 Intro
00:53 Cicero
03:54 Socrates
05:50 Marcus Aurelius
09:29 Thucydides
13:11 Worlds To Conquer
19:31 Outro
Little known history facts One day Alexander the Great was walking through the market. In front of him was a 5 year old boy with I his mother. Before Alexander could make his purchase the little boy ran out into the street in front of a moving carriage. Alexander leapt into action jumping into the street and saving the boy. The mother thanked him and offered Alexander some money. He told her to keep her money and patted the boy on the head. That little boy grew up to be Julius Caesar.
Fun Fact: the carriage driver was Hannibal Barca.
The moral of the story: always be kind to other. 😊😊
Posted on Facebook from iPhone.
Hahahahahahahah
Wow, I'm gonna tell all my friends!
Wow, that's eerily similar to that story I read on a soccer mom Facebook post of Lady Gaga jumping in front of a car to save a little girl who grew up to be Taylor Swift, history repeats itself I guess…
"AMONG US"
-Cicero
Catiline is sus
-Cicero, probably
GET OUT OF MY HEAD
"It is better to pee in the sink, than to sink in the pee" -Socrates
I came, I saw, I forgor
- Julius Caesar
I saw I came I shat myself Augustus 234 Ad
Veni vidi oblitus sum?
@birdoftheabyss
Pokémon Go to the polls
"Brazil is a empire and nation that is the greatest on earth, and in fact I am moving there as soon as possible" -Emperor Trajan.
"The Holy Roman Empire is Holy, Roman and an Empire, everyone who challenges such a claim is No Roman"
- Otto I, Holy Roman Emperor
@@forickgrimaldus8301Otto was a true emperor for having dictated such undeniably universal truths. O Sancrum Imperium Romanorum! Aeterna Victrix!
@@d.dante_vergil"The HRE are more Roman and Civilized than Us, I can't choose wether to feel Proud or be Disapointed at being a Roman"
- Augustus
If he was meaning the Brazillian Empire of Dom Pedro II, he might have been right!
“The world is conquered these days not by armies, but by how many column inches your actions inspire.”
-Emperor Trajan
"One of the main benefits of a classical education is actually being able to make up quotes for historical figures to impress people at dinner parties"
-Phillip Arrhidaeus
Nice one
"Indeed being smartyass will make such a dramatic intellectual discussion, won't we?"
---Lao Zi---
I like what you did there.
"Except for quoting me, since no one knows who I am lol."
"Is it not to be wept for, since they say that Romaboo Ramblings shall in future times make a video of myself, that I shall not live to see it?"
- Alexander the Great (c. 323 BC)
“The society that separates its filmmakers from its historians will have its films made by the historically ignorant and its histories written by those who can’t make movies” - Thucydides
I think my favourite "quote" i saw attributed to Confucious, it goes: "only when a mosquito lands on your testicles will you know that there is a way to solve everything without violence"
Sounds like cowards talk, violence without risk bears no reward
It doesn't even make sense since Confucius led battles and was not a peace loving person.
True historical quote: "Are you not entertained?" -Maximus Decimus Meridius, commander of the Armies of the North, General of the Felix Legions and loyal servant to the true emperor, Marcus Aurelius, father to a murdered son, husband to a murdered wife, who will have his vengeance, in this life or the next.
Maxen what?
Man whose name most certainly does sound Roman and not like Johnsson Tony of York
"Pls, name a salad after me"
- Julius Ceasar
"Snow, snow always melts,"
- Mark Anthony
I loved the part when when Scipio was sieging Carthage he said "It's Scipin time!" And Sciped all over the place.
I am pretty sure that one was made up by Shakespeare.
Though Plutarch writes that during the battle he Shouted "This is Africa!" , before kicking Hannibal down a bottomless pit.
"Scipin time"? Isn't that a song from Mary Poppins? ;-)
When Diogenes held up the plucked chicken to plato he actually said "ur mom lol"
I always find it funny that because of the bust we have of Perikles, he will be forever envisioned as "that Greek guy wearing his helmet as a hat." Like, imagine you're a general taking off your overcoat on hot day in the middle of summer and you wrap it around your neck like a scarf ever so briefly until you get to your quarters and properly put it on the rack, but some photographer takes a photo of you that day and that becomes the iconic historical image of you. It might've been just a temporary thing, or a minor choice done one day for some specific reason, but now it's all anyone in the future ever remembers you by!
"I never said any of that shit !" - Sun Tzu. The Art of War.
06:20 And for that extra touch of credibility, use an image of Caracalla with your fake M. Aurelius quote.
"Veni, vidi, subscripsi." - Pompey
"Check the wind direction before releasing the toxic gas."
~Napeleon~
“I’m too drunk to taste this chicken” - The late great Colonel Sanders
Which military man has the better chicken: General Tso or Colonel Sanders? ;-)
@@AlexanderJWei The Chinese are always giving away ranks too easily. I read the Romance of the 3 Kingdoms once and damn near everyone's made a General in five minutes! The Colonel may only be a Colonel, but I bet he knows the fundamentals of command. And how to deep fry a good chicken, obviously!
Fun fact: Hannibal Barca coined the term 'its barkin time!' after he barked all over the Romans at Cannae
"I HAVE COME TO RECLAIM ROOOOME" - Ralph Cifaretto circa 178 AD
This fuckin Ralph... guys more creative than Spielberg
"The man who scrolls through instagram all day will never experience the joy of going to the gym"
~Seneca~
My favourite fake quotes are all from Shakespeare. The man makes up entire SPEECHES that never happened from historical figures, and they are all AMAZING, but... y'know, fake.
Go read/watch Shakespeare's Julius Caesar y'all, it contains all kind of gold. It's where we get the phrase "It's all Greek to me".
Also I genuinely thought this was going to be a video about people of antiquity giving fake quotes at the time. But I guess we wouldn't have a good way to verify that.
So did Tucydides
Yeah....thats because he was writing plays......
Shakespear has a ton of Grand, Theatrical and Blatantly Fake Speeches my personal Favorites are
Mark Anthony's Ulogy to Julius Ceasar and King Henry V's Band of Brothers speech.
Also the famous Band of Brothers speech from Henry V is incredible
But shakespear never claimed they were real quotes.
“xIII!” “xIII!”- Titus Pullo
“XIII!!”-Lucius Vorenus
A learned man.
You almost forgot this epic quote by Julius Caesar:
"Don't trust everything you see on the internet"
-58 BC
I believe he attacked the Helvetii for spreading unfunny memes
@@RomabooRamblings :(
@@RomabooRamblings it is well known that in ancient times, posting cringe was a casus belli and a death penalty in Roma
"Gaming time"
- Hadrian in Jerussalem probably
"We do a little trolling" -Titus after destroying the second temple
"it is not to be wept for, since they say that there are infinite worlds, and i am not yet a lord of one" is such a better quote though.
Barely aware of the universe vastness, of the unsurmountable distances and hostility of space, a man more than two thousands years ago dreamt of uniting the world and moving forward, and wept at the realization that such enterprise was not meant for him nor anyone of his time.
I kinda took as "If there are infinite worlds, then, someone has probably united their world already. I won't even be the first!". I feel like if he lived loner he would've been giving speeches about reaching the moon and piercing the heavens.
10:26 gotta love how these quotes can be used in the most prestigious of places without anyone bothering to check the veracity of the source.
5:27
"But Socrates, it clearly doesn't work"
"Shut up, I have to drink something"
Socrates: Don't worry I can fix her
@@heiskanbuscadordelaverdad8709 Good luck with that, Socrates, but I meant you still piss people off on a regular basis *anyway* . Ever wondered where that drink came from?
Really enjoyed this one. Having read a lot classical history and historians I had never really thought about the amount of fake quotes around. But I had a wry smile on my face when you mentioned the legions of fake Marcus Aurelius quotes - I have read Meditations but never really thought there was an industry producing so much extra.
While I do not believe that quotes are literally made up, I do believe that the translation of a work can significantly influence the meaning of its passages. I recently compared a very modern translation of the Meditations from Penguin Classics with a much older translation from the 1900s that I happened to come across. To my surprise, there were substantial differences between these translations, which led me to question whether certain passages in the Penguin Classics version were made up. Additionally, the Penguin Classics translation seemed to divide certain passages, further contributing to the loss of the original meaning, in my opinion. I have also noticed similar issues in other works, such as those by Erasmus or Plato. While I do not believe that older translations are always better, it is important to keep in mind that you are likely not reading the orginal words of the author, but significantly edited ones.
3:00 I can't escape
We will never leave you.
The real Perikles quote is far cooler than the fake one. He's implying people are going to get exiled if they don't help the common good.
"Man, that greek bussy made me act weird"
-Emperor Hadrian
_You're entering a world of pain!_
-- Romulus, founder and first king of Rome, towards his brother Remus when he was about to cross the border to what was going to become Rome --
Another guy already said it, but I'll say it too: I adore your videos.
thank you, I very much appreciate it
The other guy who already said it was Thucydides in his History of the Peloponnesian War:
"It must be said that I adore the videos of Romaboo Ramblings."
I swear, Alexander is the only guy in history who invaded other countries and to this day is still applauded for it. I guess it's because none of his invasions failed, but if you were living in one of the countries he invaded there is no doubt you would've wanted him to fail. Maybe people today still love him because none of his victims back then wrote any complaints about him that survived, or maybe they were all censored.
I think its because the journal of his conquest were written mainly by his greek companions...
Which mainly view it from the Greek point of view, seeing their old enemy being conquered...
We often view certain historical events with bias in mind.
For example,
The capture of Jerusalem by the 1st crusade was mainly portrayed positively.
While the fall of Constantinople, often portrayed as a tragedy.
Napoleon is still pretty acclaimed by some to this day. Even with his failures.
Your idea is influenced by modern nationalist (some would say patriotict) sentiments. A slavic peasant in dalmatia in 1200 didn't care too much about venetians overlords. In 1920 a slavic worker in Istria did care about him being in Italy instead of Yugoslavia.
The point i'm bringing and can be easily seen during the fall of the western roman empire, people didn't care about who ruled on them as much as the ruler didn't try some extremist policies. A gallo roman peasant in Strasbourg didn't really care about the change of "banners". If there was peace then it's ok. When a national sentiment was created then the problem you mentioned arose (can be seen in France during the hunsred years war).
A lot of people thought he was a god
"r/Atheism is not Atheism its Cringe"
- Neal Degrass Tyson
"Crusader Kings and Stronghold Crusader were the Best Games ever made"
- King Richard the Lionheart to Saladin
Personally I'd love to see Richard and Saladin playing either of those games against each other
@@yochaiwyss3843 based
i think it should be noted that the sentiment behind the “had no more worlds to conquer”, does seem to be in line with Alexander’s character and his life. and its a pretty good one besides, where at ones pinnacle, you know there is only one direction to go…
That's your modern perception of it.
The antique anecdotes all say the exact opposite.
That's why I particularly hate fake quotes, it retroactively forces our modern cliches on ancient people.
Great video. I always knew the "no more worlds to conquer" quote was misattributed to Alexander and Caeser, but I thought it's true source was from a story about Pyrrhus of Epirus.
I love your videos dude
I'm shocked that Foch was able to predict world war two down to the fact that it would happen twenty years after world war one
Yes that's eery, isn't it?
Your level of research in this one is insane, good job man, amazing
Marcus Aurelius's fake and real quotes remind me of the Iliad: «If we could, friend, escaping safe from this war, be forever ageless and immortal, then I would not myself fight in the forefront, nor would I send you too into honorable battle. Now however, death is floating all around us, and there is no hiding or running away; so let us go forth, so that another man may win glory out of us, or we may win it for ourselves.»
I think my favourite historical quote is when Alexander the Great said “It’s Alexandering time” and then he Alexandered all over the Persian Empire!
The Thucydides quote is actually paraphrasing an argument made by Erich Ludendorff in his 1935 essay Der Totaler Krieg (The Total War) in which he argues that war is the natural state of man and peace is merely an interval between a never-ending series of wars. The character who uses the quote in Wonder Woman is a fictional version of Ludendorff so perhaps the writers knew the source.
“The strong dollar what they can, the weak suffer what they must” and all the fake speeches that are attributed to the Goths and Roman generals are my favorite.
i literally checked yesterday looking for more videos. i’m so happy to see this! great content dude
i appreciate your deadpan delivery. Also, good insights and research of where they came from instead of just lambasting things for inauthenticity and leaving it at that.
"I have run out of epicycles -- I can't add any more."
-- Claudius Ptolemaeus on his deathbed
Excellent video as always !
I appreciate the scholarship involved here - thank you! Also, I love the Dean from Community's version of the "quote" - "JESUS WEPT, for there were no more worlds to conquer!" hahaha
7:20 this one always annoyed me because whenever there’s a religious debate this quote is always brought up. The biggest logical issue is that it ignores how in many theologies devotion is an objective virtue, so claiming that the Gods should only care if you are virtuous but not care if you do something virtuous (like being devout according to some theologies) doesn’t make logical sense
The original quote makes more sense since it seems like it’s trying to say to be virtuous no matter what, even if there are no Gods, rather than trying to be some refutation of devotion towards the Gods
I like how the warhammer equivalent of the Alexander “there are no more worlds to conquer” has a twist that’s more accurate to Alexander’s situation. When Setras conquest reached past the worlds edge mountains he wept as this world was too massive to be conquered in a single lifetime.
A very interesting video and a good demonstration of how word choice is so important in English, completely changing the meaning or tone of the sentence.
Very creative idea. Nice video 👍
Love your content!
Love that you went above and beyond in not only showing that the quote was not real and its origin, but traced its development across the generations.
Great job!
(I remember when i realized that so many inspirational quotes used in star trek episodes were butchered misapplied actual statements. Perticularly chakotey regularly culturally appropriating greek fables as wise old indian tales. Haha)
I don’t remember the exact wording, but there is a fake quote floating around about how today’s youth has no respect for the previous generation, a quote that can supposedly be found in Plato’s or Aristotle’s wrtings and is used to prove how old the generation gap phenomenon is.
“As Sands thru the Hourglass, So are the Days of Our Lives”
-Socrates
I play so much Imperator Rome that I sometimes forget if its the game's soundtrack or one of your videos.
Great as usual
There was a time when Hadrian took a break from being an emperor to teach statesmanship to the next generation of bright young Romans. In the class was a young Germanic prince, getting a Roman education as a part of Roman attempts to civilise his tribe. When the subject of the Middle East came up, Hadrian went out of his way to explain that trying to kill all the Jews is futile because they will survive. All boys in the class took notes, but the germanic boy raised his hand and asserted that it was indeed possible, and Hadrian only thought otherwise because of his own inability to carry it out. Hadrian was annoyed by his arrogance and mocked him in front of the class, telling him to do it himself if he thought he was above the Princeps, causing the boy to swear that one day he would prove Hadrian wrong. That boy would grow up to become Adolf Hitler.
The Markus Aurelius and Alexander ones are basically the opposite of the originals.
The "if you marry a bad woman you will become a philosopher" quote comes up in the game Zeus: Master Olympus, which should show one how historical it is :D
There once was a dream a dream called Rome-roman emperor Aurelian
I actually do love Plutarch's (i was introduced to the boom as) On the Sayings of Kind and Commanders. Even though most of it is likely approximations or fabrications.
Through short witty quote they can really develop a character.
"Goes to show, that even people in the past made sh*t up quote wise even before I did" - Sun Tzu
Now that is some serious research/detective skills on display in this video
There were no more worlds for the interdimensional BDSM loving beings to conquer. Jesus wept.
-Marcus Aurelius, Meditations.
"Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you."
I have a feeling that **I** may be the originator of this quote. I used to have a blog on politics about a decade ago. One of my favorite lines to use was "Just because you ignore politics doesn't mean politics will ignore you". I'm sure plenty of people have their own version of this, but I certainly found it interesting to see it in your video.
you never experienced shakespeare if you didnt hear it in the original klingon. -Chang peaceloving klingon
I thought Alexander's quote was about never finding a worthy opponent to go to war against.
I like that quotable history between mediums
The inverted version of the Alexander quote also appeared in Reader's Digest in 1927
This video has the most 2020 comment section ever
Nice video, I always knew some of those quotes had to be made up.
By the way do you know how Dovahhatty's doing?
liked and subbed for my boi Diogenes
Really enjoyed this - how about some of the best real quotes?
When that one barbarian chief was sacking Rome, and said "It IZ What It IZ" i felt that.
'in the stripped club. straight up "jorking it". and by "it", haha, well. let's just say. My peanits'
-Hadrian
Bismarck has to be one of the men in history who has the absolute most quotes incorrectly attributed to him. Most of his most memorable quotes are arguably the fictional ones.
“The less people know about how sausages and laws are made, the better they’ll sleep at night.” -never said that
“Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied” -he never said that either
“Spain is the most powerful nation in the world. Century after century trying to destroy herself and still no success.” -nope, Bismarck didn’t say it.
“Some damned foolish thing in the Balkans will be the start of the next European war” -he probably never even said, the sourcing is very shoddy.
"Hail Sithis"
-Cicero
This 18:05 may be the sole case of an English non-native speaker choosing to pronounce the "th" sound where it isn't necessary.
“If you saw the beauty of my Whopper with double cheese you too would give up all worldly desires”-Diocletian, a humble Burger King franchise owner
_...and Brutus is a honourable man._
-- Marcus Antonius (died 30 BC, Roman general and later member of the 2nd triumvirate) --
So I learned this from historia civilis. Ceasar seeing Brutus as one of the conspirators said "And you my son," according to the records of the time. Ceasar's mistress was Brutus's mom who was widdowed. Brutus was taken in as an apprentice of Ceasar and Ceasar veiwed Brutus as a son. Reality is better than Shakespeare, "Et tu Brute"
so, many quotes that we, people of the romance countries and Greece thought were real, were all invented by English people from the last 50 years... do you realise how weird is that for someone who descends from those places? even teachers know those quotes. It's very weird since the English speaking world is so detached
If you don't understand yet that Anglos have and will continue to rule over you, then you never will.
GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD
_I recently learned that the Jews claim that there's only one god. Not that stupid, those guys._ [turned to a guard] _Replace the heads of the gods' statues here with mine. Tell the masons to give some of them longer hair, for the goddesses._
-- C. Iulius Caesar Germanicus aka Caligula (9 - 37 AD), Roman emperor --
Some of these mistakes in the past are understandable, but now that we have the internet there really is no excuse for not taking just a minute or two to google and confirm the source of a quote before repeating it to others.
Stay back cadillac.
-sun zooooo
The bureaucracy quote by Cicero would not make sense of real since there wasn’t much bureaucracy in his day. I would not say that it became much of a feature in Rome until dominate and more associated with Byzantine government
He who is without sin cast the first stone.
Idk why they make such a big deal about queries from Alexander…they are just like, less sour lemonheads.
You forget that, according to the show Community, the Alexander quote is better attributed to Jesus.
Would anyone know where I can purchase a more accurate version of meditations?
"If it's in the internet, therefore it's true"
Abraham Lincoln
Aristotle has an entire book (smthn like ‘on the athenian constitution’) misattributed to him
Couldn't it be that the Alexander quote comes from the story that he sat and cried in his tent when his soldiers refused to march into India?
Marcus Aurelius is peak suspicion at being an evil 😈 agent of Heaven, who knows how humans turn into gibbering morons at the slightest mention of morality 😇.