Jeff Stelling & Ally McCoist QUESTION If Fans Have FORCED David Moyes OUT Of West Ham United! 😳👀
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3 so-called pundits who have clearly never watched the defensive dross played at West Ham.
Won a trophy prick
Jeff -3 wins in the Prem this year is what’s cost Moyes a new contract
Four wins in 2024, 70 goals conceded over the campaign, millions spent yet we have the oldest and slowest squad. For over two years we have had medicore performances with the odd great one. The "boys media club" have no idea. This is why more and more fans turn to CZcams fan channels. You lot are pathetic.
Does anyone actually watch West Ham before they talk? We’ve won 4 games this year?!?! Any manager should be sacked with that record!
Of course not. If they watched them then they'd have to justify the awful performances. If they don't watch them they can just say "ALL THESE ENTITLED WEST HAM FANS EXPECT TO BE WINNING THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, PREMIER LEAGUE & FA CUP EVERY WEEK. YOU'RE A MID TABLE CLUB, STOP COMPLAINING!".
It's just the most lazy commentary to get paid for that requires 0 effort or critical thinking.
And lost flipping badly
Results aside, West Ham have far too much attacking talent to be playing an extreme low block.
A TS panel which is "two-thirds" Scottish, defending David Moyes. Where is the balance?
Can someone tell me why it's ok for the likes of Villa, Newcastle, Fulham, Palace, Brighton, even Brentford to play some scintillating attacking football this season and somehow West Ham are not allowed to? Football is about fans packing the terraces. I can guarantee the season ticket sales which have plummeted under Moyes will rise again if we get an enterprising forward-thinking manager who just wants his players to pass the bloody ball and express themselves.
Make this make sense to me then, moyes is a defensive coach yet we’ve conceded 4+ goals on multiple occasions this seasons, we have conceded more goals then Sunderland did under his charge, if it wasn’t for Bowen this season who knows where we would be
The results from the 2nd half of the season would have West Ham 17th, worst defensive record since 1967, no possession, few shots, nothing to get excited about during a match, where is the justification to renew his contract, team needs a rebuild so let a new manager do it from scratch
4 wins in 2024 in 4 competitions forced him out Jeff. Haha
People talking about West Ham that have not watched or paid to watch West Ham since 1965 are trying to tell me, becarefull what you wish for. If everyone thought that way then we would never move forward. Fans make clubs, they pay in many different ways, if they stay away so will sponsers etc. Look at clubs behind West Ham that can still catch and overtake us. We could finish 13/14th As I do not believe that we will win the last 2 games. Ref how bad he has been treated, did he not go onto Talksport to say he has the West Ham managers job, whilst Belic was still there. Oh sorry all you at TalkRed must have forgotten that.
We won a trophy last season, surely West Ham should push on? Maybe try and qualify for Europe again, or have a domestic cup run after the Conference League success? These pundits are saying that we have had our success, now we should drift away and be happy with it. What a joke.
😂😂I love the way they always conveniently miss out 14th last year in a relegation battle for 35 games and this season yes did well and got results first half of the season but since January its been nothing short of atrocious... winning a grand total of 4 games (3 in the league) while conceding 70 goals and counting this season for a supposedly risk adverse manager who prides himself on defensive resilience I'm sorry but nobody can tell me that it can get much worse because its been shocking....I'm grateful for what he's done but its time to move on
Getting drummed 4-5 nil when u set up defences with 9 men
😮 What devine right do the teams you mentioned have to be at the top of the league Ally ?
You insult West Ham fans intelligence. We know what David Moyes has done for our club & yes we are thankful but we did not get him “removed”. His football & stubbornness did that all by himself. People were brought in to help but no not Moyes he knows everything just like what Rio found out about when Moyes took over Man U. He disregarded what Sir Alex told him & look what it got him. The similar here, he is stubborn & not willing to learn & adjust. Just look at his comment about Rice. We got worse because we sold Rice & not because he couldn’t adapt to play without him. It’s always someone else’s fault. Enough said on Moyes, Lopetegui is not again the fans or Tim Steidton’s pick, as usual Sullivan ignores the people he pays to do that job but Steidten does we hope get to pick the players. I think you can see we have more faith in Tim Steidton & Mark Noble than Sullivan & the board but we will support the team 100% if they show us the same on the pitch 100% commitment.
Well said
Have you seen our goals conceded, league position, squad size and age, wins in 2024, relegation fight in 22/23, abysmal 23/24. He was great for 2 yrs. thanks Moyes but you got lost in your own stubbornness. And also, what manager who’s been let go has not been forced out by the fans. Literally every single one. No managers leave when they’re doing well and everyones happy.
@5:20 Why do they never mention Chelsea in terms of injury lists 🤣 Only the 14 injuries when facing Tottenham 🤔
If you've spent a billion you have a big enough squad to not be worried about injuries.
@@danieldouglas9156 Nobody can ever plan for 14 injuries to your first team, that's just ridiculous 🤣
West Ham’s results forced David Moyes out.
His incompetence/awful defensive football and leaving us with the second oldest/smallest squad in the premiership after spending nearly 500 million
Hey, David, don't bother here mate. They have their miniscule narrow minds made up - don't confuse them with facts
He's done far too good for West ham anything above 15th an they have had a great season
@@THEDOGFATHERL11What utter rubbish! You swallow the tripe that these planks at Talksport shovel at you. West Ham isn't the little club of the past.
@@THEDOGFATHERL11 Are you an idiot?
Do these people listen to themselves? Say we finish 6th then 7th but we should get worse? Absolute bean poles. Then completely miss last 2 season's finishes.
Fans do not have the power to force managers out, players not performing & stealing a wage can do far worse than any fan.
Ten Hagg out and Moyes in at United! The way this lot talk it’s a no brainier surely 🤔 COYI
4 wins in 24, blame the fans to protect your mate
If Moyes says I’ll decide my future at the end of my contract, it’s only proper that the club undergo due diligence and have a back up. We are 9th, but we’ve conceded 70 goals. A Moyes record. League position now doesn’t tell the real story of 4.5 years of Moyes.
3 WINS ALL YEAR
Moyes should have left after the win in Europe. He should have been sacked months ago based on his poor perfomances. 70 goals conceeded, equal worst with Grant, and we haven´t finished the season yet! I think Moyes for the Euroean adventure, but league performances this year have been relegation standard!
If david moyes was stilll at united? Dou seriously think he would be doing worse than ten hag has ? Not a chance !!!!
MOYES FUCKED UP
MAN UTD.
AND IT IS STILL DEAD
3 or 4 wins this year ,fought relegation last season ,70 goals conceded so far,football is awful,lost millions in transfers ,I wonder how many games these people have been to at the Olympic Stadium.
9th in the league, but west ham have only got 2 points more than Burnley since the 29th of December
I think everyone is missing the obvious replacement for Ten Haag. He knows the club, he knows the academy players, he has proved he can coach players and improve them. I would seriously consider bringing back Kieran McKenna
3 wins in the Prem this calendar year, we also nearly got relegated last year and we’re currently getting battered every single week, what are you on about??
2 jocks sticking up for moyes ffs 🙄
Maybe Moyes didn like that he would be coach not manager?
Fans getting the blame again, let’s get this right moyes has slagged off the fans openly he has thick skin and the board have never listened to the fans so media looking for a scape goat again let’s blame the fans, lopotigui is a no no for me Sullivan has appointed a sporting director yet he won’t let him do he’s job 😡 our owners have always treated players and staff badly
NO!!! Sick of media trying to blame the fans and using stupid phrases like "careful what you wish for" Look at the results, performances (conceded 5+ goals four times this season!) and poor transfers or lack of them that he controlled... that did it not the fans.
Yeah, we fans probably did contribute to forcing Moyes out. And?
Shut up spoilt brat
I think TalkSport are missing the point, we all hugely appreciate what Moyes did for West Ham. Best manager in my lifetime.
The football is awful, he’s won 3 games in 2024, relegation form. Conceded 70 goals in the league this season so far, come on TalkSPORT. Work it out
Considering how poor the refereeing was in the reverse fixture spurs vs Liverpool. We will call that even.
Not a west ham fan. Moyes did a great job. But he’s a manager to stabilize your club and pass it off to the next manager that can take you a step further.
Little wonder your on at 5am when nobody has to listen to you love.
This is less about fans forcing Moyes out than Moyes not having the decency to resign. He had the chance to leave on his own terms and on top after the end of last season. He chose not to, and I'm afraid, all of this, he has done to himself. He has only himself to blame if blame needs to be apportioned.
Does make you wonder if they even follow results?
OK, you pair of Einstein's - name one premiership club (outside of the relegation zone) who will hire Moyes? - Just one.
Lazy football journalism.
Lazy journalism
Why should villa and Newcastle be above us
Moyes should have been given 3 years at united
Do you listen to yourseleves. You've forgotten last season utterly. Yes we won the cup, and went on this incredible European run, but in the 22/23 season domestically we flirted with relegation for most of it, winning the cup spared Moyes a dismissal then. Now this year we've conceeded 70 goals, our joint highest in a Premier League season, in 6 games we've conceeded 5 or more goals. And since 2024 have won 4 games in all competitions. And after four and half years and £500m spent David Moyes has built one of the smallest and oldest squads in the league.
He's done a lot of good for the club no one can deny but he's also made a lot of mistakes. And his stubborn unwillingness to make strategical changes in light of the bad results has ultimately been his undoing
Why mention the clubs above West Ham in the league and say we shouldn’t expect to be above those! WHY THE F… NOT, that’s just the attitude that angers the fan base, we were promised the earth if we left Upton Park, but the fans have been blamed for Moyes departure! LOOK AT THE RESULTS AND THE DULL FOOTBALL!
No his tactics have done that
Yeah we should all be grateful that we are 9th when we are 19th in the form table since the new year, we have been slaughtered so many times this season and we have been left with the oldest and smallest squad for next season. Yeah what are West Ham fans moaning about…
Manchester United had ten men out. Personally we all know it is the players who are at fault. You can’t flog a dead horse. The whole squad needs to go.
They get paid to watch football. The rest of us pay for the privilege.
There opinions mean less than zero.
Has Jeff and Ally PAID to see West Ham to play terrible football, of course it looks OK on MotD. Zouma and Ogbonna as our Centre Back partnership, how did that happen, I thought Mavropanos was to replace Craig Dawson, no it was to replace Thilo Kehrer. As who did we get to replace Kehrer, no one, same for Fornals and Benrahma. Lost players we use to help win games last season, but never replaced them. Everyone talks about the Europa Conference League, but forgets we were in a relegation battle last season as well.
Hey guys i have an idea...........MOVE ON !!!!!!!!!
Maybe results have forced him out but you won't mention them
Fans were complaining long before results went south if you’re honest
We nearly got relegated last year.
@@GIBBO4182 I never wanted him from day one..look at his first season stats
@@dozydog9874so you were basically complaining from the beginning then? Proving my point perfectly!
Our expected goals per game againat every team weve played this season puts us in 17th place. Yes 4th from bottom! We have just sneaked results when weve been played of the pitch in games. Moyes had to go. And on top of that, the aging and tiny squad he has left us with is a disgrace. Laughably the main stream media never mention any of this. I am not expecting miracles next season with Logetegui, but thats mainly down to us needing probably 10 new players. His job is going to be very hard methinks. Stabilise next year and hopefully by the end of it his style of play is getting results and we are clear of a relegation battle
If Ali & jeff , were incompetent they would be out the door ,the man didn't play the youth , run the first team players in to the ground, put players in there worng position,, put subs on with 5 mins to play.could go on,.Yes he wo us a Trothy, but with the players we had there was no pn else who could win it on paper. Us supporters pay good money to watch boring defenceve football.
League position is not the issue , how many more times, look deeper into Moyes time at west ham .A manager doesn't have to be for life.
Sullivan handled this very badly
If we helped get David moyes out of West Ham then brilliant stop whinging Jeff glad he’s gone and don’t forget he had a contract on the table in January he basically refused to sign so he’s going and as for me I’ve supported West Ham for over 50 yrs I’m absolutely delighted he’s gone good riddance
14th Last Season / 3 wins in 2024 / highest goals against even more than when were relegated / only in Europe because of lower competition win / absolutely battered by many teams this season / oldest squad / smallest squad / Millions wasted by the manager - so to baby Steling and the 2 Sweaty’s, in what other walk of life / profession would he not get sacked, STOP with the media bias towards your friend
Exactly!makes you wonder who pays them to say it.
@@dozydog9874 typical media scum
Talktalk sport keep Moyes [English] Hag got to be sacked [Dutch] one rule for an English manager another for a foreign Manager
He's very Scottish not English...
Moyes English?
It's getting well boring now
Talkoutofyourarsport
Be careful what ye wish for mob in overdrive as usual......same old guff....West Ham should know their place........Spurs fans did the same over Conti but that was ok
Moysie has been shafted!! He deserves to be at a club that appreciates him!!
This is going to backfire on west ham
How many times pundits...we were sick of the style of football!
I’m glad David leaving West Ham and of course the fans got him out… and the board going behind his back and the players bottled it , good luck to the next manager this is not the end of David he will be back in Scotland
Glossing over the facts again from the Be Careful what you for brigade.
70 goals conceded, and he’s been forced out by the fans?
Last season avoided relegation by 6 pts even with Rice, Paqueta, Bowen in the team.
Kept giving pensioners new contracts.
Remember he already relegated Sunderland.
Rose tinted glasses punditry again.
watch west ham go downhill now
Mate we have been going downhill for the past 2 years
West Ham fans legit thought they would have a title race this season lol
No we didn't pricko , we just wanted value for the exorbitant money we have to pay to watch this dress.
Never thought that
Never thought of a title race you clueless muppet
@@hammertic False. The 115m from Rice and on the back of the Conference League, the supporters clubs said the aim was a title push. Just own it
Here's the cycle:
1. Fans: Not sure performance is good enough ---> Pundits: Don't know what they're complaining about. Must be entitled fans.
2. Fans: Pretty bad that we're so bad defensively when that's all that Moyes does --> Pundits: He's won you a European cup, stop complaining, you're a mid-table club.
3. Fans: We're losing nearly every game and we look awful --> Pundits: I haven't watched a single West Ham game but I don't know what the fans are complaining about, you're not a top 4 club.
Now the line is that West Ham fans were apparently demanding to win the premier league, champions league & FA cup every week when the only thing West Ham fans I've heard say over and over is that the team looks awful and the players could be doing better with another manager.
West Ham are getting relegated next year. 😂
If so, why can't we force IN a better manager than Lopetgui? This debacle is down to Sullivan...and Moyes himself.
Moyes still has west ham a good 6, 7 places above were they should be anything above 15th an he's had a good season for them think he even won them something last year
@@THEDOGFATHERL11did you swap your brains with your dogs or are you just thick
@@THEDOGFATHERL11 Yep, and it only cost £500,000,000. Just imagine what he could achieve if he wanted more than 30% possesion.
@@THEDOGFATHERL11 Here's the cycle:
1. Fans: Not sure performance is good enough ---> Pundits: Don't know what they're complaining about. Must be entitled fans.
2. Fans: Pretty bad that we're so bad defensively when that's all that Moyes does --> Pundits: He's won you a European cup, stop complaining, you're a mid-table club.
3. Fans: We're losing nearly every game and we look awful --> Pundits: I haven't watched a single West Ham game but I don't know what the fans are complaining about, you're not a top 4 club.
Now the line is that West Ham fans were apparently demanding to win the premier league, champions league & FA cup every week when the only thing West Ham fans I've heard say over and over is that the team looks awful and the players could be doing better with another manager.
@@josephkerrigan733 there a relegation battle club anything better has been a successful season there currently in the top half of the table 9th I believe you don't get there by losing every game
Poor Dave - he’s done alright but just not playing the West Spam way!
Want him at your club?
@@MrWiggsy4 yer of love I’m at reading but we can’t afford him.
@Muttey2024 as a season tixket holder and sitting through it, trust me you wouldn't. It's not just the style of play (which is dire), he refuses to use squad players, runs 11 into the ground, won't change plans.... ever. no matter how badly it isn't working, he's arrogant and won't accept culpability for anything.
His defensive style aims to stop the opposition from scoring and seeing as we've conceded 70 this season including 5 tonkings where we've conceded 5 or more, and it doesn't work
I hope they get relegated
West ham fans have a rare ability of not being able to look inward and realise that the problem is them. The most successful manager they've ever had becomes a victim of bad club ownership, an awful stadium and awful fans. Why is zouma still there for a start? What is the west ham way?. A really odd club of all proportions
John Lyall
Zouma is still there because Moyes signed him, Moyes plays him and Moyes made him club captain
The only thing odd my friend is you , you have answered a lot of your questions in your own message 😂
Your talking out of your proverbial ron greenwood fa cup cup winners cup founder of bobby moore geoff hurst Martin Peter's and next johnny lyall dont know what your talking about look up your history
@@daviddowns8068 what... Back in 1890??? How long you guys intend on living in the past?
Wow West ham fans need a reality check.. 9th in the most competitive league in the world I would take that every year as a Norwich fan.
Want moyes at yours next season?
@@MrWiggsy4 We are OK at the moment, but 9th from almost relegation and a European cup in 3 years. Be careful what you wish for its only the multi billionaires that back the top 6 which means its difficult to do much better unless you get one too!
@leedent8211 mate. I've got a season ticket and everyone I know that goes hates it as it's such a chore
Would be hilarious if they got relegated next season now
we’re going down if we keep him, it’s worth a punt
He kept yas up and made yas a mainstay in Europe for the last three years won yas a European trophy be prepared what ya wish for
@@jacknelson927oh please keep up Jack ffs
West Ham fans should be ashamed
If you don't go to west ham, you have no clue What's really going on there