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- Armed gangs in Haiti still control nearly 80% of the capital, Port au Prince. The violence has continued despite the appointment of a transitional government, following the resignation of the former Prime Minister Ariel Henry last month. Kenya is proposing to send hundreds of police to the country to help stop the violence but many are increasingly worried about the idea.
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#haiti #kenya #violence
As a Kenyan we have no business there.
As a Somali who lived in Kenya, help your people and we appreciate it
No you don’t
As a member of the United Nations they are obliged to help in war torn countries as they have done already in over 40 years
you dont speak for kenyans
Imagine America is right there and Kenya wants to send soldiers. I guess Haiti has nothing to steal anymore.
Do your research. Whenever USA intervenes in Haiti, it always fails. Haitians do not want USA in Haiti. Now, USA is offering Kenya 100 Million to send their officers to Haiti. Haitians do not want that either. We want stability in our country but we have to lead the mission.
Look at the that mess (nation) If left alone......
@@shadowsamurai4074I’m pretty sure the gangs will not negotiate with US. The US only aims to do what’s in the best interest of the US.
@@shadowsamurai4074 They were never left alone...that's why they are in this mess in the first place.
@@Mr.Universe So then what to leave it left alone or help? I only wonder how this situation will turn out if left alone.....
Prayers for Haiti
They are destroying everything,who is going to replace them
Kenyans themselves are suffering from insecurities and government has lost control,, this is not possible
Stop lying. There's no insecurity in Kenya. The banditry issue can not be compared to what is going on in Haiti. Shame on you!
@@frankanyona2857 shame on you just because it aint affecting doesnt mean those affected are from mercury
Kenya 🇰🇪 is worse than Haiti. You don't know anything about Haiti . Haiti is the one that gives you freedom
@@frankanyona2857You white tho
Ngui inoo
Dear People of Kenya. I have been to Haiti, Please do not send your sons there to die. Haitians need to learn how to solve their own problems.
We knocked Alshabaab which is dangerous.
Tell that heartless nonsense to the little Haitian kids dying and living constantly in fear.
And how is that supposed to be done when gangs are raiding every single neighborhoods in Haiti, right now all of you are telling no force to be sent to Haiti while kids are being killed young boys are carrying guns, young women are being r@ped, families are fleeing without knowing where else to go, if not a force we will be facing the unimaginable situation
@@DaGraphittiX Intervening will also result in collateral damage, the Haitian people need to learn how to manage their own country. I suggest that you go there and fight for the kids before you ask others to do so.
@@silentvoiceinthedark5665 we've done ours elsewhere in erstwhile times. Something you may never understand but there are people who run to danger so others might have some peace of a sort. Hope you understand that one day.
Besides, the Kenyan force isn't the only force coming. They're just leading the way. Let's rather pray for the success of that intervention assistance force instead of sounding this bleakly pessimistic.
No nation should be run by lawless gangs and child soldiers.
Kenyans don’t speak French or Creole…. This military operation sounds SO GOOFY and will NOT be embraced by the people of Ayiti.
As a member of the United Nations they are obliged to help in war torn countries as they have done already in over 40 years
To the Kenyan 🇰🇪 Police going to Haiti 🇭🇹. R.I.P in advance.
😂😂😂
Wewe ndio utakufa mbele yao
Seems you have no idea what Kenya is.
@@Andrealaguidaturisticayou have no idea what Haitian people capable of
The gangs in Haiti tend not to have sights on their rifles... I think they'll be just fine.
Kenya cannot manage Haitians violence..how can kenya solve those problems when thy can't handle banditry
or corrupt cops asking for lunch money in the streets? (just happened to me in kenya)
@@marcrooseler lunch is making you cry.
Haiti cannot help itself either.
The idea of Kenyan police is because they don't want US or Canada security forces in the ground, most of them are white.
Let's use reason on this.
Haiti had enough!!
Kenyan police is the most brutal police in the world. How couldn't they help?
@@marcrooseler they actually frame it as 'lunch-money"?
Kenya has no business in Haiti..
Just like the French an yanks did not have any either
Kenya has all business in haiti
As a Kenyan, I kinda agree however even my Canadian government seems to support Kenya with significant funding so theirs that.
They need to be there. Plus any country that can help bring Peace
Which peace that even America couldn't bring?
Without the US dollars, there's no Kenya in Haiti
I am part of the first generation of Haitian Americans born a raised in the United States. I served in the US Navy, and I have a Law Enforcement background. I am just one of many Haitian Americans who have a skill that can be utilized in Haiti. In this first generation, there are doctors, EMTs, architects, engineers, IT professionals, and many others who will have a vested interest in bringing structure and order. If the US really wanted to do something, they would reach out to this group here in the US. The US could have easy put a peace core made of this group and used the money to back the peace core instead of to foreign interests that will have no vested interest in Haiti. Put the call out and watch how many of us will respond to the call.
Exactly as a first gen Haitian myself I say the all the time, we have enough skilled Haitians around the world that are VALUABLE and can be integral in the reconstruction of our homeland
I doubt they want to be part of a homeland that has nothing to offer to them. Let's be real: they aren't willing to be there RIGHT NOW because of the collapsed security situation and altruism DOES NOT pay bills. The US trued TWO TIMES to calm the situation down and it got worse every time it happened...
Sounds good if the country was in a ceasefire . But until that is done then military intervention has to take place
I’m with you my brother 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🫡
They don’t want people with vested interests. See all the excrements they’ve been given us as leaders.
There is something that’s not adding up…Kenya is an English talking nation…Haiti speak French…Kenya lays geologically in east Africa…but in west and North Africa where most countries speak French and geographically closer to Haiti 🇭🇹 would have been easier and more convenient to ask help from…so if you see…this doesn’t add up it’s just totally wrong…
But Kenya has a long history of sending police officers to troubled zones.most West Africa countries have no experience.
CAPACITY!!
All these countries you mentioned don't want to lead the force, do you think because they speak french they are willing to stand with Haiti? Only Kenya accepted the challenge
im sorry t say...but kenya is not standing up for anything. its just moneytalks@@Brian-bo4bz
You are thinking like a small girl. Kenyan police are not going there to socialize with the gangs. Language is not a problem.
Wouldn't French speaking African countries be a better choice?
Some have offered troops .Kenya isn't alone
They're too busy dealing with coups and insurgents.
Nobody talks about the elephant in the room?
Fighting and taking its independence, FRANCE and AMERICA being the main bullies. Yets they provide aid. Feeding the chicken on camera then eating it when camera its off
Whats in for president ruto
Don't talk about your mother like that.
Critics of the plan have yet to suggest a reasonable alternative.
How about FOR ONCE instead of bringing boots bullets disease and corruption to Ayiti, how about sending waste management solution?? 100 million is alot, how about a souvernty fund that allows Haiti to finally enter the Industrial Age and DEVELOP?? Kenyans have no military business in Haiti and if they go they will die for nothing.
@@elliotleef4823 so you want to hand over a huge sum of money to a place with no functional government and blatant corruption? 🤣 yeah, I'm sure that would be better. Without basic security and institutions you can't do anything, and that requires monopoly on use of force. Modern state 101
@@elliotleef4823 I am not sure if you are aware, but Haiti is currently being ran by a group of terrorist.
You are either short sighted or have no knowledge of Ayiti’s history of constant foreign intervention…. Ayiti needs proper FOOD SECURITY, waste management, teachers, doctors, EDUCATORS to help move Ayiti through the Industrial Age since it has been choked of that right due to corruption and FOREIGN INTERVENTION. Ayiti doesn’t need Kenya, or “troops”. You sound like someone who has never visited the country!
@rafael_lana are you asking another person to think for you? It's really not that complicated npc
The only advice here President Ruto can call Jimmy Barbercue and speak to him over the phone before he can sendsoldiers.He must be the mediator of peace not with the army.
We need to pray for Haiti as African Continent.Let's spread love for them.
99% of kenyans oppose this death wish laced with promises of financial incentives to ruto. and the court ruling cannot be overturned although they are trying to. its business masquerading as a mission.
and no one wonders how the KSH is doing so well in the same months?
United States, once again, SELLING WAR!
The conditions under which ordinary Haitians are living under is
not sustainable.
There is nothing to sustain in those circumstances. I am not sure there was anything sustainable before this outbreak. Haitians need an opportunity to define their direction
No one country can help Haiti's very desperate situation, however, if many of these larger and better equipped and prepared nations will also help, I'm sure they will get the job done. Haiti needs divine intervention, because no one seems to want to help Haiti.
You notice the united states has no intentions of sending its soldiers to haiti
At least someone is thinking of doing something 😢
Doing something is not always the best option.
Because NO one is thinking of building proper waste management, sewage system. They just want to spill Ayisien blood and make money doing it!!
Afcurse some one have to help
France messed up Haiti big time. Its time the French Legion revisit its International Policy especially with the Countries they colonized.
The biggest problem is ,Haiti never holds its corrupt leaders accountable. The population is more loyal to a core group than the nation in as a whole. While others that try to help are uses a scapegoat leaving its ppl distracted and unfortunately abandoned.
Imagine failing to deal with security in Kenya you want to deal with Haitis insecurity..Kenyan leaders have failed miserably
There's no insecurity in Kenya. You cant compare whats going on in Kenya to whats going on in Haiti
@@frankanyona2857 so the constant news about never-ending bandit attacks going on in Rift Valley must then be deliberate lies told by govt? If they have failed to deal with these few bandits in an area they should be familiar with, what do you think they will do in a foreign land whose government has been completely overrun by criminals? GOK is sending those police officers to their early grave.
@frankanyona2857 ummm is Al Shabab not in Mombasa anymore??? Or other islamists??
@@expos4everac Those ones were all finished. There's no longer such a group. Do your research
@@frankanyona2857 Do you live in Kenya?
Why sending Kenyan Police, instead of sending the Kenyan Defense? This is a job too much for the Kenyan police.
its not 1000 police. It would be about 3000 with the troops being offered from countries other than Kenya. Also, trained forces with good equipment like the Kenyans have would be very effective against untrained gangs.
All my support for the Kenyan mission
USA/Canada have had decades to solve the problems
Key and is just the face or front for the US and Canada etc
Kenya is just a us puppet
so... working for the us/canada is better? They sent in way more than kenya is sending and have been there and is still there... how specifically is the help happening? I'll travel back there and see for myself. First hand witnessing can't be beat.
Kenya police is a general name there several sections under kenya police, the one on the picture is traffic police, there's the administration police, general service unit police custom and border protection police, anti terror police the recce, G company , those to be deployed are recce, anti terror police unit, GSU if you don't who they are, CZcams is useful
Finally someone said some truth.... These MFs can and will handle anything but their methods maybe tricky 😂😂
I learnt this during my first time in Kenya driving. My brother in law told me to set cruise control on the expressway which I thought was a bit fast and right as we were quickly approaching a car labelled police. I put my brakes on and he asked me what I was doing? I pointed to the police and he laughed. At that moment two more cars flew past me and the apparently not traffic department of the police judging by the fact the police car didn’t flinch 🤣
It is a matter of Kenya saying. "We will get the ball rolling. Will anyone else do anything? Anything?"
then kenya is not only blind deaf and dumb, but catering to colonizers. This isn't a new mission, there are already UN and other forces there doing "things" for the past 2-3 decades. When their forces get there, they'll be met by "helpers' who've been there for years. Not sure if anyone else is paying attention, kenya heistantly agreed at first... and within the time of acceptance... the KSH has gotten stronger despite investors leaving... interesting eh?
WHO WILL BE LIABLE FOR MISBEHAVING KENYAN POLICE, SHOULD THEY MISBEHAVE?
Kenyan’s are not the only ones thinking about going .
@@Frugal637 I know, and the US paying them/for it. Gonna be rough.
Pessimism already?
@@manfromthepast My experience from the past leads me to that. Perhaps it will go well. Unique for today...
Idk ken ya?
Kenya should mind its own business.
It’s the west that’s pushing it.
So just leave Haiti to its fate then?
@@The88Cheat yes...Recruit Haitians from Abroad, not funded by the US/Canada/France or kenya. I'm in.
@The88Cheat leave them, anytime a US backed intervention is done in a foreign soil it's bring no good at the end. Kenya president is a puppet of the white House, I don't believe he's acting in good faith for the Haiti, he has received money from US govt to carry this foolish exercise. Let Hatians fight their own battle.
Why UN not sending peacekeeping to haiti
The 1000 Police Officers is part of UN Multinational Force.
They tried that already. The Peacekeepers were abusing children again.
The kenyan president looks more haitian than haiti's president, lmfao
Nope!!! He is simply responding to the order of USA
@@woodleyrosier2796lol Kenya’s president is far from an American puppet lol more like a Chinese puppet lol
@@woodleyrosier2796lol just because you don’t like a leader decision doesn’t mean he’s getting orders from another nation lol that he himself criticizes lol
Let the leader of the strongest gang control the country so he will stop burning it down.
What do that mean ? We look more like tribes from west and central Africa 🇭🇹🇸🇳🇳🇬🇨🇬🇨🇩🇦🇴
Did anyone actually believe the gangs would give up control when he stepped down? Lmao
There will a language barrier for sure.
That's the first thing I thought!
That is NOT good
Divide Haiti inti two countries. This would help the stability in Haiti. Persons can choose their tribe to follow.
Wtf are you saying? We don’t do tribes in Haiti this is not Africa
Haiti don't have tribe
Let people stop dying of fear, if we can fight to make peace where there is no peace let do so without any worry . let try ourselves.
I personally think it’s a good idea. The Haitian military is undermanned and underarmed. They can use the help.
What military Haiti doesn't have a military
you must not know much about this subject.
They need clean water and proper sewage system!!! Not troops! No more troops, they’ve been bringing troops over 200 years and the cycle continues. Ayiti will NEVER accept foriegn military intervention……
Kenyan Police is one of the most corrupt in the world. And brutal too disregarding human rights
Says who ? that would be american or european police
@@TheTeddykimaniKimani. I as a Kenyan and other Kenyans know this. Kenyan police are corrupt and brutal.
@@TheTeddykimaniif you think qmerican and european police are violent you clearly havent traveled much 😂 the difference is in those countries you're allowed to criticize them and live
@rafael_lana I have I respect our Kenyan police more keep your perceived false narrative to yourself but do not say negative things about our country....I live here
@@TheTeddykimani the one with false narrative is you buddy, check the numbers on people killed by police in Kenya and the US/Europe and tell me which one kills more. Specially Europe. It's hard data, there's no debate.
Kenya biting more than it can chew. Kiherehere tu!
Someone please help explain, except the second return of a religious figure, what causes so much conflict, intolerance, micro aggression in the universe?
There's a difference between kdf and Kenya police why is the dw reporter lying about Kenya police going to yugoslavia
Are you okay? Are you having a stroke?
@@ericdpeerik3928 maybe it's your mother
@@willisg4789 my mother joined the Kenyan police? 🤔 Is everything okay at home, kid? Are you having troubles?
Smh… every effort to help Haiti will fail since no one is listening to the people that is struggling with life..
My peoples in Haiti or no joke you guys are not ready for us🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹💙
Yeah, 200yrs of nationhood with instability. Haiti has never been ready for self rule.
Also those unseen 🧟🧟♂️soliders that they not ready for
This comment suggests you are part of a gang which is the problem to begin with.
200 years of evil foreign intervention. 200 years of western countries stealing resources and hijacking government policy. Go learn the history before you come here sounding ignorant!!
this barbecue is delusional
compared to Somalians el shabab
Kenyan police would put him in thier pocket easily
Why didn’t you interview the ones supporting the move toooooo
Ruto looking at $$$$$$, he doesn’t care loosing 1000 kenyan citizens over $$$
Although as a Haitian, I appreciate the help of our brothers from Kenya. What I don't understand is, why would president of Kenya agreed to clean the mess of the CORP GROUP led by the US.?
Kenyan police are used to collecting bribes on the streets “kitu kidogo, soda, chai” but not doing anything like fighting gangs. I can’t imagine how scared they must be after hearing this kind of news 😂😂. Mr. Ruto is trying to secure some payments through this, but he rather finds something else to sell and let these boys enjoy the bribes.
Bringing the international force in Haiti is not the solution, cause they have to bring a body bag, this is how they gonna end up. First of all only the Haitians people can choose who they want to be in charge, point blank period?
Kenya need to fix it self frist before intervening in another country's affairs😮
Kenya doesn't have any political instability issues, what do you mean
You sound selfish
Kenya is a highly tribalistic nation ruled by a tribal chief(Ruto) who cares only about stealing from public coffers and hiring friends from his tribe for lucrative government positions so that they can plunder and invest taxpayers' money in Dubai instead of developing Kenya.
That money should be used to help us here look at the way it still flooding in nairobi na unapeleka watu haiti. Bad decision for sure Mr president youll regret it.
"a 100 or so coppers".. It's a 1000 first of all and why are YOU editorializing? Why don't you just report the facts?
I haven't watched the video yet, but we (Kenya) are sending a batch of 100 - 200 cops for starters
Haitians did not ask for this, whoever signed us up for it have no legality, this is not going to end well.
Haiti lost every right to ask for something .
@@mamamiya-et4uz be quiet
As a Kenyan, I don't want any of our troops to go to Haiti. It's disturbing that the president is wiling to sacrifice our sons and daughters for a cause that neither concerns nor benefits us. We have our own problems here to handle and taking our soldiers from their families to fight in a foreign war is not viable. It's UNACCEPTABLE! Haiti can take care of themselves!
I fear they may target these Kenyans to make a point not to send in foreign forces. Many/most may lose their lives.
As much as Kenya’s proposal should be considered and lauded even, an UN multinational force comprised of French- speaking military forces would be more appropriate. The police would be militarised as a result which can have important democratic consequences for Kenya when these police return.
Kenya needs to fix itself before it goes and tries to help anyone else. This seems like a power grab, plus the Haiti gangs that are in control already said he will consider this an act of war
Nah they need a miltary not police.
Im so surprised we dont send troops from the US
it is good to believe in ourselves
So what's the point....No one offered to help...Kenya did, now all these criticism how does it help resolve...let Germany deploy a force since it already doesn't need the peacekeeping dollars...right sense?
These arguments are made based on political alignment. Meaning if you supported Ruto during the 2022 elections, chances are the you will support Ruto's choices, even if they're harming other people.
The problem here is that the US that has been destabilizing Haiti for over 200 years including sponsoring a coup in 2004 that abducted a president voted in by 90% of Haitians and transported him to a strange country 10,000 kilometers away. The US president called his French counterpart to celebrate the successful coup. Allegedly, US/France were also involved in 2020.
Kenyans pretending to care about Haiti did not care before our white US masters recently hired us to do their bidding. Not even during the 2010 earthquake that killed _220,000_ (!!) Haitians.
Even if we do bring temporary peace in Haiti, we're apparently being used like Idi Amin of Uganda was used to suppress an uprising against the colonial British govt in Kenya. It probably won't solve the problems of Haiti long term... it will only serve to delay the emergence of a perennially peaceful and prosperous Haiti, because the democratic choices of Haitians are not respected, and leaders they do not choose forced upon them.
Stability is Established by giving the young alternstives to gang activities,it's more Political & Diplomatic than bullet & Security, if UN is Serious about the mission, it should be combined with provision of skills & funding of SME's to give youths alternative & sustainable initiative so Haitians can own the initiative themselves,We can't keep taking same measures & expect different Results!
We Kenyans are against this .
You and not we.
@@AndrealaguidaturisticaAll of us are apart from you
I like the interview with the UN rep...very eloquent. My advice to our young Edith Kimani is to respect Kenyan Presidency when reporting
Haiti had been going on like this from the revolution back in the Eighteen thirties if i am correct
The Haitian people must stand up and take advantage of the financial assistance from the world...they must change their mindsets.
The Kenyan assistance is totally political,the leader has violated their constitution,so right away it is obvious that something is extremely strange with this approach.
Going into Haiti,is like attacking a blind person in their house with the lights off... extremely uncertain and a death wish
It's a shame. Pray for the innocent people and children in Haiti.
True
We have never sent any POLICE out of Kenya in any mission period.
but your media says they were sent
You don't know what you're saying.... Kenya Police Officers have been deployed for Foreign missions, Kindly ask for information if you don't know.
Deploying the Kenya army might be reasonable but police is unacceptable and unconstitutional.
Do not do it. You should know the history.
That makes alot of sense George musamali
The only chance the Haitians have is to stand up to the gangs. Even if there are thousands of casualties, the Haitian people have to take care of this.
Train our own brothers and sisters in the United States the Haitian people
Kote nou? Figure that one out, who's in? There are lots of trained Haitians, question is, who's side do we take? We need a cease fire and a grouping to see who's being funded by who, kick out rusty foreign aligned politicians. Seek funding from non western countries, to include kenya and anyone who is funded by them. Work with the countries Haiti has historically helped with their independences. In any case. Fund me, you, to train our own.
@@marcrooseler Give me some training and arm and airsupport and I will be happy to go. I speak Creole. I wouldn't mind giving up my life for the cause.
Hear! Hear! "....actually more of a hinderance..." exactly "......economic profit for peace keeping..' "....aren't really carring about Haiti..." it's a money making intevention...
Kenyans don’t support that mission in totality.Whom are they to support,there’s no Government in Haiti?
Ok, I misread the title as Kanye.
1000 Trained and Fortified Police Officers Not, simply 100. Stay on Point with the Narrative. Risking your Credibility.
He said 100s which is true.
@@tomsriver2838 Apply that Thought Process too your Pay-Check if you dare!
@@tomsriver2838 apply that thought process to your paycheck I dare you!
@@tomsriver2838 Apply that same Thought Process to your Paycheck, I dare.
There are more than 1000 force from Kenya alone are going and this is misleading?
People who are opposing this should come up with a solution , don't just complain , find a solution to the gang problem
There are tons of opposition solutions and proposals. Someone is not paying attention in class
Kenya has its local bandits problem. Why not sort out that first?
TOOOOOOmuch Am...Am.....Ammm.....! Very disturbing and taking away from the content of the discussions on the part of the Lady being interviewed.
A police force that speaks a different language? Sounds to me like this more a job for an army that speaks the same language. Cops that can t communicate nor police the locals are bound to failure.
They said Kenya has no business there... well neither does the US
Let them go and be humbled. They are used to pick on us here in kenya.
Love 🖤 shines
Watch this space. Kenyan led Police force will restore order in Haiti in weeks. For Kenyan police .... We advise Barque and his fellow gangs to surrender or be forced to do so.
Kenyan chicken coming to get barbecue😂😂😢😂
They DISBANDED their own army?
It sounds like a plan to send Kenyan African armed men to occupy Haiti not to help,it always starts off its deceit help just to turn out to be a conquering move
A key consideration is that there are no ulterior motives and no political ideas and considerations that ex-colonialists still harbour .
Justice 4 Haiti 💜💯
Haiti is a mess and the world's attempts at fixing Haiti are also a mess and not well thought-out.
Haiti needs political stability (i.e. a political forum hosted by a neutral third party that may need to incorporate the gangs now running Haiti, providing them amnesty), basic infrastructure, food stability and sustainable economic growth. Security will follow automatically when every party feels like they have a positive future thats accessible to all.
Yes to all this, however, any current entities backed by the UN/US/Canada/France... actually anyone not Haitian should not be considered. The current candidates and ex politico helped the rise of the gangs in the first place and funded them. The gangs have realized this and this is why they are against the council, being basically installed, by the US. the last prime minister, wasn't even real, he was selected to be, and never instated. He's even part of the alleged killing of the former president. Yes to amnesty or all out used them like they've been being used for the past decade or more, absorb them into a new military, not police. military. Keep them where they can be seen and controlled, with a non-outsider installed government.
Wrong. Security leads to political stability which leads to economic security. You can’t have meaningful elections and debate while a bunch of gangsters are running around sowing chaos
I am Kenyan and we have no business in Haiti our police can't even speak French. This move is very unpopular in the country
Of course it's a cash grab, the police don't deal with banditry here in Baringo, Pokot and Kerio Valley
This is a big set up. You can see that clearly in her face.
Haiti needs international assistance. The U.S. has guns flooding into the gangs, while the world simply watches. A President was assassinated and the country has spiral completely out of control. Send troops
THAT BUSINESS IS BETWEEN MR. RUTO AND THE US GOVERNMENT AS A KENYAN AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF THAT; AND WILL NEVER BE
We already have our own problems in matters security and yet our president is pushing for our police to travel all the way to a country we have no business with. Tell me there is a different form of stupidity from this one.
Haiti needs a new name
Eve one need a piece of of that beautiful Haiti ,America already take everything