The Craziest Theory Ever Written!? - Game of Thrones Season 8 (End Game Theory)
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- čas přidán 9. 02. 2019
- Welcome back for another Game of Thrones Season 8 End Game Theory video. Today I want to discuss one of the craziest theories ever written. Well, according to this person... I'm sure by now most of you have heard about the "Littlefinger is Alive" theory. I'm also sure most of you have heard about the "Rhaegar is Jaqen H'ghar" theory as well. This one is a combination of both of those theories, with a little added twist to the end. This also ties into the Crypts of Winterfell Teaser. Based on this theory, not only is Littlefinger a member of the Faceless Men, but he has been playing the Game of Faces from the very beginning of Game of Thrones. Give me your thoughts on this one. I'm not so sure about it, but I thought I would read it to you anyway. Thanks for watching the video!
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I have a theory for you. Everyone is a Faceless Man.
And all you see is just a play performed by the Faceless Men out of boredom and overpopulation.
Odysseus Mavrigata I swear that would be anticlimactic asff
When reality and show become one
Bruh..I rate it
@@SupaWeav now thats deep!
yeah, i love it when a faceless man randomly becomes a dragon when he wants to
What if Khal Drogo was Aquaman?
😂😂 nice one
and what if sansa is dark phoenix
hahahahhaa
This is one insane theory!
What if Aquaman is actually Conan the barbarian? 🤔
On the show Arya tells the hound that she knew a real killer, one that could kill him with his little finger.
Nice catch!
Wow what a catch indees
Indeed lol
She was talking about his ding dong.. it was Gendry
@@robertoarmstrong7317 in Greek the word finger is dactyl. The Dactyl's were also a guild of ancient Smith's and magicians. In some mythology there were 5, in others there were ten and they could be interchangeable,. They were born to Rhea, the titans daughter.
Littlefinger: "I am your father"
Jon: "No. Its not true, its impossible"
Littlefinger: "Search your feelings, you know it to be true!"
when?
Jon proceeds to cut his head off and once agin the masses rejoice!
I don't want it
I can actually hear both their voices as I read this!🤣
Fun theory, but the biggest knock against it is a little thing called Seasons 5 and 6. Arya is at The House of Black & White with Jaqen for all of Seasons 5 and 6 - while Baelish is with Sansa, then at Winterfell, then at King's Landing, then at the Eyrie, then the Battle of the Bastards. They would have needed a whole bunch of scenes with Jaqen saying "A man will be right back!".
Or, A man is no one and thus can be anyone. Just because Jaqen was in Braavos (his face) doesn't mean it was the same person.
@@joshuasaunders7369 I agree. I always felt that Jaqen in Braavos didn't really seem right, as tho he was more like a robot clone than the suave dude that rescued the kids in the first place.
U make my day with the last sentence 😂😂😂
@@fortheloveofking The real Jaqen was kicking chickens around
That's not a knock against the theory considering he saying Littlefinger is 3 different faceless men.
Tyrion isn't a dwarf!!! He's actually been on his knees the entire time! Or at least that's my theory.
Wow your sense of humor sucks.
ActOfHonor it gave me a chuckle
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tyrion is actually 6'10" tall but everyone around him is 8'
Wahahahha
Little finger is George RR Martin
😂😂
that would rather be the big thumb by the looks of things :D
Has Littlefinger also penned a best selling series of books and then failed to finish the overarching story?
Also explains syrio`s and jaqen`s affection for arya who looks so much like Lyanna.
So what do you say, will this happen this Sunday
I agree... they both are sd similar characters
This is why I don’t like making theories regarding faceless men. If you think hard enough you can make a theory that everyone is a faceless man and the entire show/book series is just a bunch of faceless men running around messing with each other.
This is an entertaining theory, albeit highly unlikely, it’s just too convoluted to follow and there’s too many faceless man tricks in my opinion. Using the faceless men’s game of faces as a plot twist technique seems like bad story telling if used too much.
Krameleon I completely agree with you. It sounds like a cop out. If this theory is true, I hope it is told in a clever way when it is revealed in the show. But yeah, this is the equivalent of “it was all just a Dream”
Also, this could be a good way to publicly reveal Jon Snows parents and his claim to the throne
Yeah, like that other popular theory that Jaqen H'Ghar is actually Ned Stark. They were prisoners from the Red Keep dungeons, would've been there the same time as Ned Stark, that's why Jaqen focuses on Arya, etc. You can do that with literally ANY character and you make it sound plausible. Seriously, try a random character and imagine him/her as a faceless man, and it will make sense.
The same with warging. There's a Ned Stark theory on that one, too. Remember those birds that flew away when Ned was beheaded? Ned warged into a crow just as the axe was coming down. Like that wildling warg who warged into an eagle just as Jon Snow was killing him and attacked his face. With warging pressed into the service of theorizing, literally ANY character can be secretly alive if he was also secretly a warg. Without compelling supporting evidence, these theories are a rabbit hole and a waste of time.
You don't need to think too hard about this.
Actually G.Martin is also faceless men.
Remember when Tywin and Littlefinger met at Harrenhall. Littlefinger saw Arya and probably knew who she was because he never forgets a face. He knew who she was but he didn't told Tywin about it. Also Jagen Hghar was in Harrenhall too. This theory is most likely false but still has some points.
Exactly, he was actually surprised but probably thought it couldn't possibly be Arya. Also, I don't think Arya ever really met Littlefinger. They were both in King's Landing but never really got in contact.
I'm surprised he didn't mention that, that was my first thought
@@sebastianh.1090 They met on Tournament when Ser Hugh was killed
@@ilkinsuleymanzad8252 Yeah I feel like I remember Arya and Sansa sitting near Littlefinger and Ned during the tournament when he tells Sansa about the story of The Hound and The Mountain.
what if he was switching faces back and forth from Little Finger to Jaqen Hghar. HAHA
This is walking the tightrope between tinfoil insanity and downright amazing..
Nah! You have to explain first how Petyr got the Cristiano rolando haircut back in the middle ages.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
💀💀facts
Hot pie is really a faceless man who is actually Rhegar who is part time Euron Greyjoy who is also Jon Snows real dad. Confirmed
:O
So hot pie is just watching the Game Of Thrones real time! Shall we dig deeper?
😂😂😂
I agree, but Hot Pies true identity is the lord of light/night king/prince who was promised, azor ahai, nissa nissa, the valonquar, and the one try heir to the iron throne, Ed Sheeran.
🤣
Lololol 🧐🤪😱👀🤔🤔🤔😲🤯😳
Don't forget that he's also Mance
Some say that Robb is alive and living as a bodyguard in different universe!!!
Raunaq Gupta All the Starks going back 8000 years, turn into blue Uncle Benin’s. They come out of the Stark Crypt to kick all wintery butts.
CUTE. I HEARD THE SAME THING.LOL😁
That’s a stretch!!
Robb is definitely alive, and he’s married to Cinderella. 😁
And I bet he’s the dumbest bodyguard when it comes to important decisions. 😂
I think this will be saved for the books, but not for the show
“If you think this has a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention”… GRRM telling us he is never going to finish the books
My theory. There is only 1 person in Bravos. And he is also half of the people in Westeros.
Faceless men are the illuminati of game of thrones, some of this is possible.
Although there is no illuminati but the faceless men are truly real in tje world of game of thrones!
nice
Also notice both Jaqen and littlefinger have a stroke of white hair.
Jeron Cradle YES!!!! Love that!!
Oh snap! Confirmed!
And Rhaegar has a head full of white hair
However Syrio doesn’t.
Neither does Jon Snow :/
Rob Stark is actually Hodor’s mother who gave birth to Shaggydog during the Creation of Night King who would become the Older Brother of Capt. Jack Sparrow. He then went on to Marry Captain Marvel: Carol Denvers who believe it not.... is the twin sister of Carol from the walking dead, set in the future where Sarah Conners return with The Terminator: Kenny Omega to put a end to God himself.... Plankton. Disguised as Abe Lincoln
This guy is the real deal. Goodbye and Goodnight
Yeh but where does Gibby fit into yhis
Bala na
My god
False! Hot Pie is the Lord of Light!
Rewatching the first season, there is a lot of emphasis on him. Particularly, the scene with him and Varys looking at the throne-it’s a battle of the wits and it seems to indicate that these two men, despite the respect they have for each-other, are destined to face off against each other on a level that transcends all the other characters. Everyone else is playing 2D chess, while they play 3D chess.
And then Littlefinger fell for the 3-move mate trick.
How’s that theory look now?
I agree... its chess to them and checkers to Cersei and everyone else... I fo think Tyrion held his own when it came to the battle of who's smarter than littlefinger... huntlyittlefinger was weeks ahead of everyone else
“Face-off”... I see what you did there.
This would explain Littlefinger's multiple accents, at least.
i shuppose orl our ansheshtors came from somwhur elsh... orignanully
"Lots of Planets have a North!"
He DOES kinda sound different all the time
The comments about editing "tricks" are hilarious. They read as if the submitter thinks GoT is comprised of real footage and real events. They're not "tricks." It's just storytelling.
Transitions, similar to those used in season 1 of HBO Westworld.
I bet whoever wrote this "Theory" is the head of The Flat Westeros Society
but westeros is flat..........
@@adamnowak7538 Westeros can't be flat.. it's in the blue eye of a giant namend Makumba.. it is known ;-)
@@EvanPhoenix It is known...
Lmfao. Rarely do CZcams comments truly make me laugh out loud. Thx bro.
@@chrisfs1891 epic xD
Why would Rhaegar betray Ned who raised his son
Because killing Ned set everything in motion for whatever weird plan he is supposed to have. Maybe it is him chasing Arya and she is so freaked out because she thought she killed him but sees his face and knows he is a faceless man and thinks he is there to kill her? Maybe they end up by the statues of her parents and that is where he reveals who he is? Maybe he sits on the throne? lmao
He’s just a pawn in his game, rhaegar just wants to fulfill prophecies. The people don’t matter
So this theory works if you forget the Rhaegar part. Littlefinger is actually himself until he tells the faceless men that Arya is at Winterfell. That's when the female that he pays outside takes his place, thinking ahe will be able to kill Arya, but she gets killed instead, all while disguised as Littlefinger. If you watch the scenes, he doesn't act like his usual self when faced with death, which is because it isn't him.
Exactly. And would Rhaegar give Sansa to the Bolton's knowing that was most likely a death sentence. That doesn't seem very Rhaegar like.
So Rhaeger- next in line for the throne, stationed on the top top rung of the ladder- decided to start chaos and descend to the very bottom of the chaos ladder and climb all the way up for....fun? A challenge? 🤨🤔
Doesn’t make a lot of sense. What’s his motive for doing all this rather than just chillin’ out til his Dad dies them take the throne? Seems slightly easier than causing all this chaos. Not to mention far more risky. 🤨
My favorite theory yet
Too bad it's wrong.
Music1222 you don’t know that
Agreed!
Black Light
Yes, it’s an excellent theory. I hope the show runners can execute it. George would surely approve!
But whose identity will he be in Season 8, if he is still at Winterfell, who is he now posing as? Will he be Harry Strickland? Will he be Robb Arryn with a functioning brain? Will he be a stranger?
The show doesnt have nearly enough content for any of this to work, including Littlefinger being still alive. If they wove this into the show it would require 90% flashbacks and would be a total mess
Hey this would explain Littlefinger's uncanny ability to change accents mid season!
I hope the story line of Arya with the faceless men isnt a waste. Hopefully we will see how it turn out on season 8 finale
Andrew Pham
I hope you enjoyed it. Even if it is not the finale episode though.
You got to see it go into play with episode three
D&D don’t care about our hopes.
@@ComradeSlice ThEre Is NO SeAsON 8 in Game Of ThRoNes!
Oh my sweet summer child😑
My brain hurts... but I’ve got to listen to it again! 😂 Definitely something new to think about. 😁❤️
Khaleesi Clues hey I love your Chanel love your theories ! You and talking thrones is the only theory Chanels I watch!
@@Axel-ll2jp you are doing it way wrong if you haven't been watching altshiftx
The REAL Gendry is still rowing. The current one is actually Arya from the future, posing as him to get herself to fall in love with him once he finally returns from his voyage in order to continue the Stark Line since everyone else is going to die.
@@Axel-ll2jp I also love this channel but Gray Area is another good GoT channel.
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Nice theory but highly unlikely. Good read nonetheless.... And you narrate it so well.
Affy Loki agreed
I agree with you but it does make a lot of sense all of those characters would have a vested interest in the stark family if he was rheagar what better way to look after your kid and make sure he becomes the prophecy you think he is remember Jon wasn’t his first aegon so it would make sense he would do anything possible to make sure he wasn’t wrong twice
Affy Loki v
Nothing is highly unlikely in G.O.T
Littlefinger was at Harrenhal, at the same time Arya was serving Tywin, and Jagen was there and aware of her dealings, also Baelish looked genuinely suspicious when Arya was cruising around him with only Tywins convo engagement pulling his attention away, so i'm not sure how that ties in with the theory.
Both jaqen and littlefinger have a partial white in ther hair.
Chutiya
A white one like Rhaegar's hair ...
Haha.
Lol wtf
And Syrio has a strand of white hair in his beard
A man is impressed
You still won't know me though 🤣
This theory actually blew my mind. I think it is possible somehow and I think character like Littlefinger can't just be "erased" from the story that easily
They killed the "main guy" in the first season, so no one is safe. Littlefinger is also very different from the books. According to George Martin, he's the character the writers changed the most. He had a good run, but Sansa and especially Bran were too much for him to handle. I don't believe we'll see any faceless man again (except for Arya) in the next season. They will focus entirely on the Night King, Bran, Jon and Daenerys.
@@sebastianh.1090 yeah I think there may not be time for all that stuff now since there are only six episodes left but I always loved stories about Faceless man a lot and it would be cool to do but there is not enough time
Yeah, it's called bad writing because they had nothing left for him to do except show that Sansa has enough gumption to take revenge. That's it.
Why not? Listen people we NEED to wrap up the loose enda. His character is finished really
@@sebastianh.1090 YUP. .BTW THANK YOU 2X OVER
On the show in season 1 there is a scene with Viserys and Doreah in the bath tub. She tells Viserys that once saw a man with a dagger of real dragon glass, a man who could change his face like clothing, and a pirate covered in gold who flew colorful sails. This short dialogue suddenly makes more sense if the theory is true.
I admit this callback is intriguing. I wonder if that was meant to be an important tidbit all the way back then
I’m reading the comments and none of you are taking this theory seriously. I’m going to be happy when it turns out to be true and Littlefinger returns. So many viewers underestimate his power 😂
he won't tho
I think it makes perfect sense( Not necessarily the raghar part tho) that he has a larger part than it seems
It makes sense yeah, but the writers have changed and they have there own visions for the show and I don’t think too happen
Dont you mean rhaegar
So how happy are you now that you're proven wrong and he hasn't returned?
These theories are keeping us ABSOLUTELY HOOKED!
They are what GOT was back before S6 towards the end...
Thank yall
What if they're in a giants eye at the end
What if PB is the faceless men, wearting that Giants eye? :O
Dude
Oh you mean Macumber? 😂
I predicted that is how the whole show will end the night old nan said that!
It's all in Bran's head, I think
Can you imagine the reveal to Jon!?
Would be another epic "I am your father" film moment.
The theory is loose though. Rhaegar would have made more of effort to protect his son and heir, Aegon.
True true
Well you have to go deeper into the video's theory and realize that everything went accordingly to protecting aegon when "Jon" was sent to castle black, after all even if you are gonna say there are night walkers there, if rhaegar didnt manage to protect jon he still tried
well he wouldnt coz he believes in prophecies so he would not worry about anything until The Prophecy comes true about jon being the promised Prince
Alex Ban
Lol he tried to protect Jon. Lmao And Jon already died once there.
If that is true. George R. R. Martin is genius. Something so hard to predict. I can't imagine how someone could come up with such a great story! Amazing!
Too bad the last 3 seasons aren't based on Martin's books.
@@andreigirjoaba360 Martin said the books will 'mostly' mirror the show
I was digging this until Rhager came up smh
Preposterous !!! No freaking way and the director/writers would not throw that curve ball in the final season. This theory would need way more time to unfold. Littlefinger aka PB is dead and can we just move on already? This dude who came up with the theory needs to connect with GRRM to help him write the last books already!
the directors won't do it because they are not smart enough and they only care about dragons and battles and boat sex
he couldnt be 2 places at once!! ..towards the end of season 6 Arya still in Bravos with Jaqen & Sansa with littlefinger in westeros "battle of the bastards" around the same time period ending out that season..
@@BeyondAnyMan ٠ we don't know how much time passes between episodes as we see Arya did reach the Twins in EP10 so maybe LF was just few weeks earlier as he is a lord and have faster ships and horses
@@akramlakamora5517 if so even when Jaqen was headed to the wall & then a lannister guard, ..somewhere in between he taking Ned Stark bones back Cat!! ..he'd have to be barry allen or nightcrawler also 😀
this theory seems only plausible in the books but definitely not in the show
Nope. Cat didn't see Petyr again after the duel with Brandon, but other characters did. Lyssa nursed him back to health. Lyssa was crazy in love with Petyr at the time; if he had died, Lyssa would have wailed the news to the world. The dagger is easily explained a dozen ways. Rhaegar was a slave to prophesy, and he believed his child would be the Prince That Was Promised. He wouldn't have just vanished and left it to luck that Jon survived and was properly educated to be ready for the job. In the books, Jaqen is at the Citadel wearing Pate's face. And on and on... It's a great theory, very creative, but it's a show only theory; whatever happens in the end HAS to take the books into account.
I do believe that Syrio and Jaqen are the same person, and it's remotely possible that person is Rhaegar. I can't see why Rhaegar would want Ned dead, though. Ned raised his child as his own, even though it meant admitting to having cheated on Cat.
@@nikifaith Yeah... a lot of this theory honestly doesn't make sense. It comes across as a cheap attempt to turn one of the more honorable characters in the story into a slimy leech.
Which is. rue to some extent. I mean can they do anuthing else? They D&D said the WAY they get to the END will be a bit diffeent but END the same. Who knows.
First person I thought about was Lysa. So what Catelyn hadn’t seen him for 15 years.... Lysa did and didn’t she get pregnant by him?? Rectified with some moon tea. Sooo naw.
What if Baelish was a friend of Lyanna Stark, he helped her and her love Rhaegar escape. Rhaegar gives LF the dagger as a gift. But then Baelish does something unexpected: he starts spreading the rumour all over Westeros that Rhaegar kidnaped and raped Lyanna cause he knows the Starks will get riled up and will start causing trouble. And he wants revenge on the Starks. And when he achieve his goal and Brandon gets burned by the Mad King, Baelish is like wow this thing can actually work! He gets power mad and then he starts making manipulation his life work.
I don't believe that because D&D are leading the season 8
And we all know (or almost) they are crap writers, this is way too genius for them
End of Season 8 will just be about Cersei+Euron vs Jon+Khaleesi, nothing else
Andromediens accurate
Interesting. Very interesting. The last scene in the crypt was indeed very telling - Baelish’s face gave it away - “that’s not how I remember it...”
Everytime Talking Thrones notifications pop up I drop everything I’m doing and run to CZcams!
Same here lol
Marre Mab seriously??? 😂
Don't we all?
Marre Mab you can’t run in the Internet
Great theory but it does have a few problems as far as I can tell.
1. While it is certainly possible that Petyr died after his fight with Brandon and was replaced by a faceless man, it is mentioned several times that he languished in bed for a long period. So it is not like he completely disappears.
2. In the books we know that Jaqen is in Oldtown behind the face of a novice maester. This happens simultaneously with Littlefinger seizing control of the vale and manipulating Sansa into playing his daughter. Seems impossible for him to be in two places at once.
3. Littlefinger giving the girl a coin in S7 is meant to show the audience that he has already established his group of ‘little birds’ in Winterfell and that he knows everything that is going on; this is the same scheme he and Varus used in King’s Landing.
Your number 3 is exactly what I was thinking, too. The scene was designed to enrage us, make us hate him even more now that his underhanded ways were going to get Arya killed! A final misdirection by the screen-writer so that you do not have time to entertain the possibility of justice being served well that day.
Did you not see the faceless coin he gave the girl in that scene and he also said "Your time is up"
Stannis Baratheon I would have to see the scene again but it didn’t seem obvious to me that it was a Bravosi coin. Do you have an image of it by any chance?
You know something is compellingly written when so many theories can be soundly supported by so many conversations and events
This is interesting. I have never forgotten about jaq. And i think his character is bigger that people think.
I just hope that you know that I love your intro!
B.S. because when Little Finger was treating with Tywin Lannister in Harenhall in season 2, Arya is his serving girl. Littlefinger becomes suspicious at the girl, thinking it could have been Arya. Jaqen knew that Arya was Tywin's serving girl so he wouldn't have been suprised at all. Puts a dagger in this whole theory!
Priests on a Plane I disagree. I think he did see her and purposely did nothing. I remember watching this episode and thinking “there is no way he didn’t recognize her.” It seemed like such a waste of a scene to for it to amount to nothing. But this theory confirms it. He DID see her and chose to do nothing because he had other plans for her
In the books shes never even Tywins serving girl, in fact they never meet! Tywins cup bearer is Roose Bolton in the books... So yea....
Trick the audience into believing you so we making and even bigger finale
Priests on a Plane Littlefinger knew it was Arya...he wasn’t just suspicious. He knew without a doubt it was her.
He knows its her. I dont remember who he admits it to, but he tells someone ge saw her at Harren Hall.
I call this the Scooby-Doo double mask theory
This is one of the best theories I have heard
Rhaegar Targaryen is Charlie Hunnam and he plays Sons of Anarchy with the face of Jax Teller. It is known
It is known
Just kidding, I was imitating the Dothrak. I have no idea what you're talking about. Sorry xD
it is known
Hodor is the new night king in season 8.. this is not a theory its reality believe me and he will sit on the throne in the last episode.
ਹੈਰੀ ਿਸੰਘ they never burned his body. This could be true
Lol
whit a perfectly unjustifed frontal nudity scene i hope ?
do u think that he will hold his ground or knock down the door?
How did I just discover this channel?! Even if some of these theories are a bit far fetched, I think it's so interesting and awesome to think about. Love this, keep doing what your doing!
I don’t think the show runners are that clever to do such a thing.. 🤷🏼♂️
I believe Littlefinger faked his death but he is most definitely not Rhaegar
I don't think he faked his death... GRRM loves to close storylines in a poetic way.. to close a circle. Littlefingers circle is perfectly closed that way.
MiguelStinson88 GRRM is not the one who decided how Littlefinger dies in the show...
@@MiguelStinson88 Littlefinger's story was not closed. He is the smartest one in the game, he is the game. He has been planning this for decades. He set major things in motion, all the chaos, all that didn't get stopped by two teenage girls. He faked his death with the faceless ones, he will reveal himself and kill the nightking with catspaw. He is the prince that was promised. He will sit upon the iron throne. The mockingbird singing the song of Ice and Fire. The twist of all twists
Arian Rahman except for the fact that Littlefinger couldn’t possibly be the prince who was promised... If what you just said ever came to be true, the show would come to a disasterous ending. Definitely nothing that i’d ever think GRRM would approve of
He didn’t get killed by 2 teenage girls, he got exposed and executed by a Queen in the making, a clever assassin, and the Three-eyed Raven. Little finger might of started the choas but he is nothing and would of never amounted to nothing more than a slimey scheming pimp.
the only reason i dont think this will be the case, is we have one season left. they have to tell us about the night king, jons heritage, the prince that was promised, bran, sansa, Arya, jamie, cersei, euron etc etc etc, theres too many loose ends left for them to be introducing more,
Littlefinger wont die in the books like he did in the show. i believe characters like him, tyrion and varys will survive to the end
He can just appear at the end and tell Aria he's a faceless men, tbh. I mean when he stabs her in the spine or something. 3 min dialoge. Next scene.
@@benjaminstrmole1048 mo
@@benjaminstrmole1048 EXCUSE ME !!?? Our Arya isnt going out like that. PLEASE!
@@ap7456 I would be surprised if there are going to be any more books. We've been waiting for ages
SuperDuper conspiracy theory:
Littlefinger is actually Littlefoot from The Land Before Time.
He's always been there. Since... before time.
I started to laugh out loud. The way you read this reminds me of the Rick and Morty "Purge" episode when the lighthouse keeper reads his script. Bravo.
You're right it's pretty crazy how in the world would all this come to light when there is so little time left. Still I'm really glad you read it and put forth the theory that was fun
martin has stated faceless men can see through other faceless men. Arya woyld have seen through any faceless diaguise. Arya knew who she was killing. petyr baelish.
A girl was never truly no-one so your point is not valid
Arya isn't a faceless man, she needs to be no-one to get that title, and we know she isn't no-one and wearing faces doesn't make you faceless because the faces belongs to no-one but Arya is still someone.
Was Arya ever really a faceless man? I'd say she failed at that. In any case, there's another theory that Arya died in Braavos and the Waif took her face - it isn't Arya we see in Westeros now, but the Waif with Arya's face.
If it's really the Waif, why take out the Freys?
@@nikifaith why not? If you are trying to embody Arya, why not kill those who famously murdered her brother and mother?
Jaqan H'ghar/ Rhaegar Targaren 1st appearance is in season 1 at the tournaments, he is standing in the back round watching Ayra.
If you think about it , kinda does make sense
If Littlefinger and Perter aren't the same person then I think it would greatly undermine Littlefinger's arc. A big part of LF's character arc is the growth he got from the duel with Brandon when he realized that in life if you need something you should take it and he didn't believe in love anymore and vowed he would never what he felt when Bran defeated him
"he didn't believe in love anymore and vowed he would never what he felt when Bran defeated him"
Yeah he did. He NEVER stopped loving Catelyn-and then Sansa.
It would completely undermine it. GRRMs character are all supposed to be grey areas in morals. Their actions are all motivated in the real world, and it would seem ridiculous for him to just throw away such a developed character for some magic trick “got ya” moment. Also it would destroy to lore of RT and the whole reason for the entire series. Like this was some massive Oceans Eleven twist ending? Lol
Keep in mind, lf is still alive in the books.
@@shadowthehedgehog3113 that's not love.
that's desire. he doesn't truly care about neither of them he only wants them for his own selfish needs. he was more than happy to trade Cat for a younger more beautiful version (Sansa) and didn't act to stop Cat's murder in any way nor did they show him grieving ovee her and I bet he would do the same to Sansa if it came to it.
@@atrock1985 totaly agree
When Baelish meets with Tywin at Harrenhall, he thinks he notices Arya when she is serving him but he doesnt say anything..... it is a look of recognising her and not the look of someone who has knowledge she is already at Harrenhall.
Exactly!
I know theres more great vids to come from you, but i just wanna note, i have enjoyed your uploads and thank you for extending and thoughtfully adding postively to the fantastic story of GOTs. You have added hours of enjoyment to the best show in the world. Thank you.
This is one of the best theories I’ve ever heard! I hope this is actually true it’s so good.
These theories are amazing, but it is something George would have done. Not Dan and Dave. It's sad but I think the theories are a result of us fans not wanting to accept the bitter truth that D&D fucked up Littlefinger's story and purpose (and the way they did it just to give Sansa more fan respect and make her likable, because she is not fan favorite Stark)...as they did to many plots and story lines since season 4. :(
It is clear that even if this theory is true it would still not appear in the series because not all the audience would understand it
@@draoswaargbaal7598 I sure dont. One more theory to deal with. No wonder the headaches are getting worse.
You missed the most important part of the theory:
The prophecy of Azor Ahai: In order to forge Lightbringer he tried three times, remember that Baelish killed three people.
1. He forged the sword in water, it broke. Baelish killed Jon Arryn with Tears of Lys
2. He forged the sword through the heart of a lion. again it broke. He killed Joffrey Lannister (aka lion) using poison
3. He forged the sword through the heart of his wife. He killed Lysa Arryn by throwing her through the moon door. While her cry of anguish and ecstasy left a crack across the face of the moon
The official prophecy:
The Legend of Lightbringer
Darkness lay over the world and a hero, Azor Ahai, was chosen to fight against it. To fight the darkness, Azor Ahai needed to forge a hero's sword. He labored for thirty days and thirty nights until it was done. However, when he went to temper it in water, the sword broke. He was not one to give up easily, so he started over. The second time he took fifty days and fifty nights to make the sword, even better than the first. To temper it this time, he captured a lion and drove the sword into its heart, but once more the steel shattered. The third time, with a heavy heart, for he knew before hand what he must do to finish the blade, he worked for a hundred days and nights until it was finished. This time, he called for his wife, Nissa Nissa, and asked her to bare her breast. He drove his sword into her breast, her soul combining with the steel of the sword, creating Lightbringer, while her cry of anguish and ecstasy left a crack across the face of the moon.
It fits perfectly with Peter Baelish, he must be Azor Ahai.
And how that mean he's Rhaegar ? Thank you...haven't read the books
Azor Ahai, aka the last hero, is expected to be a Thargaerian, but I don't know the exact part of the prophecy that says that
Wow! That fits, and is way better than ... but then Lightbringer is either: a) The entire surviving Stark family, or b) the Valyrian steel dagger. "No one" was supposed to be here (season 1, assassin to Lady Catelyn Stark).
I'll be really disappointed if Littlefibger is Azor Ahai.
@@danieltrajkovski6838 why?
This is fast becoming one of my favorite channels
The show ends with Bran waking up from a coma after being pushed out of the window... this was all a bad dream
Some of the GOT theories are actually good but show runners doesn’t care these
yes, there is so many excellent theories that can make GOT even better!
So reaghar betrayed the man that kept his son safe?
palagpat special force what if he replaced ned and a faceless man died instead of him!!!
@@roastermonster7442 in the show ned declined help from varys I doubt he is gonna accept it from a man with many faces.
True but the prophecy means everything to him would risk it all to go that far even
@@roastermonster7442 It IS what people are saying now. That Ned isnt dead.
palagpat special force what if the person who denied help wasn’t ned but already a faceless man!!then???
Oh my goodness! I love this channel. Keep all the theories coming!!!
Good theory maybe that's who Arya is running from in the season 8 trailer.
Or who she was talking to when she said, I know death he has many faces, may when she was spinning in circles fighting someone invisible just like she trained as a faceless man.
Like all your videos you are the best and most accurate
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Ummmmm nope!
And what do YOU think about the theory, @TalkingThrones?
My Top Theory so far
Actually, if you delve into all of the GOT lore, this theory becomes very probable! Hats off to the person who wrote it! At the very least it is very appetizing food for thought!
I just want little finger to be alive still
I dont care how or why I just want him to be still playing the game. His ending was pathetic for such a player
I kinda thought his end was classic poetic justice. I think it was fitting for the kind of player he was.
Ask the NK
Jaquen H’gar is also a loose anagram for Rhaegar :0
I love this community because of the theories. They’re always so inventive and interesting, but as we’re nearing the end, the theories are just getting out of hand. I can poke so many holes in this theory, but I’ll just say this - trying to address not only the fact that “littlefinger” faked his death but also that he’s actually Rhaegar (?????) simply can’t fit into the schedule of THE LAST *SIX* EPISODES. We’re already going to be addressing Jon/Dany and potentially a pregnancy from that union, a Jon/Arya/Bran reunion, Dany vs Sansa in Winterfell, Jon discovering his true identity, Cersei vs Jamie (who has presumably pledged to the Northern cause/the Great War in the North despite Cersei), Cersei’s pregnancy, the Golden Company’s arrival in Westeros, more than likely more Bran/Three Eyed Raven stuff, as well as the March of the dead passed the wall and then of course the Great War itself.
Well night king does reach winterfell and HAS to be killed by azor ahai which rhaegar says it would be his son and rhaegar would do anything to get the prophecy true knowing how attached he is to it meaning that jon will kill night king after all
i hope we will get the flashback of syrio forel's escape in season 8 :)
Good theory, and it has crossed my mind. Nice to see it discussed in depth.
The theory is a reach. Doesn't feel like GRRM's style.
Dragonfly Its more like Eichiiro Oda stule, plots over plots
@@blacklevo9989 one piece?
Ehh actually i could argue with you on that with another theory but then it will become a theory chaos (aka ladder) and we would "climb" ourselves argument punches
Some people put too much faith in the writers. I dont see this happening
Also, the mockingbird doesn’t have a song of it’s own… it copies the songs of other birds. In a forest, you never know if you’re listening to a mockingbird or the original unless you see it.
I will not be surprised if suddenly gandalf showed up and stand before the army of the dead with his staff "you shall not pass!!" He is a light bringer tho
Little crazy theory..But What I think is Littlefinger definitely have some connection with Targaryens. Just watched S07E01...a scene where Sam is reading a book and picture of a that Dagger comes. Sam says this to Gilly.."The Targaryens used dragonglass to decorate their weapons" This totally means that that dagger belongs to some Targaryen as it has a dragon bone attached to it. And Littlefinger has some connection with Targaryens.
@Ryan Swaggert Honestly For Reeaalll
dragonglass is a stone called obsidian, not dragon bone.
@Ryan Swaggert I would say yes and no. 1. All the theories that turn everyone into a Tagaryen are indeed getting out of hand yes. True. 2. I would say, but what about all the bastards that were legitimized by Aegon IV (The Unworthy) Targaryan? He him self (minus a few other notables) is legit the reason why there are so many possibilities for there to be so many possible Targaryen's running around in the first place. Hell Aegor Rivers (Bitter Steel), Daemon Black Fyre and Brynden Rivers (Blood Raven) are just to name a few and at least one of them is currently present in the show. Or have you not read any of the books?
Not saying everyone is a Targaryen, but there are at least a lot of loyalists and I can count for the legit possibility of at leas two being secret Targaryens. But I would also say...no more than two. Lol
My theory that Craster is secretly Rhaegar would make Gilly, little Sam and all the male children taken for the Night King to be secret Targaryens. But I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they all have Stark blood running in them. Little Sam as a Son of Ice and Fire.
What we say to the god of death..... NOT TODAY
Awesome theory! The theories you post make the story so much better than it already is! It’s like trying to follow metal gear solids story/theories
We'll definitely see in season 8 a flashback to syrios escape.
Me:Oh my sweet little Summer child 😌
It’s an interesting theory, but I think it’s too much to throw at us in the last few episodes. They didn’t even include Lady Stoneheart in the show, so think about how they threw out that curveball. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a faceless man hanging around, but not Littlefinger. If he wasn’t PB then why convert his crush on Catelyn to pining and “saving” himself for Sansa?
The actor who played Rhagar in season 7, Wilf Scolding, was apparently in Belfast during the time of shooting season 8. So we can expect to see Rhagar make an appearance in season 8 but whether that's for Bran's visions or a theory like this is unclear. This sounds like a crazy theory, it would blow my mind if this ends up being true.
Mine's too Bruh!
Gotta be for a flashback via Branflix.
Or...Scolding will be playing Young Griff!!!🙏🙏🙏
I could believe Syrio and Jaqen being Faces of Rhaegar, but not Littlefinger. They seem to have different agendas, and are at times on different continents.
@@nikifaith yes me too
Watched a bit of this back in January and am now back after rewatching the entire series.
bruh my head hurts, you see i was expecting something crazy.. but this is WILDDDD
IDK about Littlefinger being Rhaegar, but I will continue to say "Littlefinger lives" until S8 is over!
Is anyone afraid that they will give us some crazy ending like the whole thing was a dream after Bran was pushed out of the window! ?
Ohh the "lost" theory ..i sure hope not, yet still very plausible
The most believable ending is LOTR ending - it's all a book or story of memories & writer is Sam
duuuuuuude, come on! that would be such a disappointing ending. don't play with my emotions like that!
I have PTSD from lost so yes..
This will happen, but with a twist. It will be revealed that Samwell is telling the story, to grandbaby Samwell perhaps, who is narrating the story in MacComber's imagination, as he tells it to baby MacComber.
so in-depth, what a email.
Thanks for you both.
I didn’t believe there was any more content too digest an once again another quality upload where it’s left me thinking more myself an SHOCKED needing more input?
with that being said, season 8 being so close!!!
No stone unturned, until next upload?
What will we find now?
All I know talking thrones will always find content.helping me so much In the countdown to final 8.
I was just saying to a friend of mine that Serio was probably Ja'qen Hagar because it explains why Ja'qen was locked in the cells. Didn't read it anywhere either