64. Cutting an auto tire off a rim
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- Cutting an Auto Tire off a Rim
One of my neighbors threw away an auto tire mounted on a steel rim. At first, I thought the tire on the rim would make a good, wide, solid base for some kind of a stand in the shop. Then I had second thoughts. Every square inch of floor space in the shop is precious so when I looked at the tire lying flat on the floor, I thought it just took up too much floor space. So I decided to remove the tire from the rim. This video shows how I did that.
As always, please feel free to leave comments or questions. Thanks for watching!
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Thanks for letting us all know to never try cutting a tire off a wheel.
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Thank you for making this video! I had four large inner tube type truck tires mounted on old split rims ("widowmaker rims"). No scrap yard would take the rims with tires mounted, no tire shop would remove the tires as it is actually illegal for them to work on these old and dangerous rims. I was stuck with them until I saw this video. Once I cut the tires off I was able to bring them to be disposed of at the tire shop (for free!) and was also able to bring the steel rims to the metal scrapper to get paid by the pound for them!
I'm glad the video was helpful. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Thank you for showing me not to cut the tires off my rims!! You did a good job not giving up, but man I didn’t think the bead would be that much of a pain.
Thanks for your comment.
I actually have a history of trying to remove auto tires from rims. The video you watched was my 1st attempt where I settled for just cutting off the tire and leaving the bead behind. In my 2nd attempt here, czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html , I did manage to break the bead using a floor jack, but it was a lot of physical work. In my 3rd attempt here, czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.html , I did manage to cut through the bead and remove it.
Even though the 3rd video shows the amount of work I put into removing the tire, most of the work was figuring out how to do it (figuring out which simple tools work best). The key that time around was in using the oscillating multi-tool. Once I understood how best to use this tool on the tire, it really was not that bad.
I have one more rim to do and then I'll be off to the scrapyard. As I tried to describe in the 3rd video, I'm motivated by first trying to lessen what goes into the landfill and 2nd by making a few extra dollars. The extra bucks are good but not the main purpose.
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This is the technique I will use for my dry rotted Willy's Jeep tires, thanks for the video. I also enjoyed the jazz music in the background.
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Look guys: break the bead (both sides); cut the sidewalls. Remove the tire. Then, pry off the remanding beads.
You can remove four tires in about 30 minutes this way.
To break the bead, use two small bottle jacks or scissor jacks braced against a solid surface.
Maybe next time (if there is a next time) I'll try using the bottle jacks.
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I took a knife, cut around the sidewalls and removed the entire tread. Then carefully used a dremel with a small cutoff wheel to cut through the wire in the bead on the front and back and that took no time at all. Stop cutting the tire bead as soon as the sparks stop flying because that means you're into the rubber under the bead, and you will hit the rim if you don't stop. You'll hear creaking and then a snap as soon as the bead breaks and you should be able to get the bead off by hand or with a sharp knife
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I think I am going to have to try this, as I have an old implement tire that I just can NOT get the bead broke..so this might be a viable method.
This video shows my 1st attempt at removing a tire from a rim. I have since tried 3 more times using different techniques. This link: czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.html goes to my most recent attempt. So far, I have learned that the challenge to removing the tire is exposing and then cutting the metal wires embedded in the tire's bead. In the linked video, I used a oscillating multi-tool, diagonal cutters, and a bolt cutter. Other viewers have commented that they have had success cutting the bead wires by using a Dremel tool with small cutoff disk installed.
The other thing I can say for certain is that removing car tires from rims using DIY/cheap tools is definitely challenging!
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Set the tire behind any car with a tow bar receiver. Stick the tire down first, a scissor jack on the inner edge of the tire and push / lift against the tow bar receiver. 1 minute or less to break a bead. Flip the tire over and do it again.
Thanks for the tip! Unfortunately, I don't have a vehicle with a tow bar receiver. Thanks again for your comment and for watching.
Use some dawn soap/water 50/50 mix
I saw a video where a 4x4 placed was placed on the tire near the bead and pointed at the center of the tire, then a car slowly drove up the grounded end of the 4x4. Worked great !
Yes, I have heard of that but never tried it. Maybe next time!
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Just a follow up to a reply I made earlier. Used this video as sort of inspiration to try to get my impossibly tough hay wagon implement tire off the rim. I tried everything I could around here to try and pop the bead. I had another split rim that slid over this rim, lots of lube, and used my 70HP tractor with front end loader putting pressure on it..NADA. Since it was a fairly thick tire I did use the sawzall to cut around the rim. Then used a 4" angle grinder to cut a V into the back side to reveal the wire bead, just enough so I could get a dremel tool in there with a reinforced cutting wheel. It took a bit to get through, but you can see the wire bead in there as you cut, and once you get through the last wire, the remaining bead just pops loose. No more struggling with stubborn tire beads. This is my method.
I feel your frustration. The video you watched is fairly old. I have since tried 3 more times (and made a video each time) to remove a tire from a rim. My most recent attempt is shown here: czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.html . In the video, I use a oscillating multitool to cut away slivers of the tire and then use diagonal cutters to cut the wires in the bead. Just as you said, once the last wire is cut, the bead comes right off. This is now my preferred method. If you do this carefully, I think the rim could be reused.
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Thanks for the video. It saved me the hassle of actually doing it. Not worth it at all.
It is a lot of work, that's for sure. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Putting the wheel back on the car and driving it while flat will also break the bead, if you don't care about the tire. Found out by accident once, and I've used the trick a couple times after that.
Thanks for the tip! In my case, it was more about trying to figure out how to remove the tire from the rim with simple tools (it was more of an experiment). Almost a year later, I learned how to remove a tire from the rim using a floor jack, some 2x4s, and some pry bars. Here's the link for that video if you're interested: czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html .
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@Roger Grenville There's no damage to the rim, unless you drive on it for a while with the bead broken.
Break the bead 1st then cut the sidewalls in the middle , can be done with a nice sharp knife. Watch the tire guys do it all the time. Remember thr bead has a cord of steel inside it just like the tread.
H Lance. Agreed, break the bead first. Back in 2019 when I made this video, I did not understand how to do break the bead using cheap DIY tools. I have since used a couple of very different ways to break the bead using cheap tools; here are some videos that show what I mean: czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html , czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.html .
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Took me an hour last time I cut my tire off the rim.
That's great! Did you also cut the bead off?
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Cut the side wall all the way around both sides.
Yes, cutting the side walls off is pretty easy and quick.
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Man, what a pain. I had this do to me as well and then the tire shop thought it was now more of a pain with the machine. There ought to be a solvent to break this adhesive down. Almost every time is a different situation with these tires.
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I have tried 4 separate times using different methods to remove tires from rims using DIY tools. Here's a video of my most successful method: czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.html. This is the method I would use again.
LOLOLOLOLOL THIS is hilarious!! ANYTHING not to pay the local tire $10
LOL. It was more about trying to cut it off myself to see if I could.
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Use a small dremel or grinder very carefully and cut the bead cords I change tires this way all the time
Thanks for the tip and for watching.
It would be much easier to break the bead first using the 4x4 and driving on it method
Agreed.
Wonder if an angle grinder would cut thru the bead quickly.
I don't think it would cut into the bead; I think it would heat up and burn the rubber. Thanks for your comment and for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake and thats a problem because? you cut the tire into little pieces, and still couldnt take it off. I dont think "burning" the tyre is going to be a problem. btw it is so hard to burn tyre.
@@ImaginethenMake I have used one in the past while changing a tyre and it worked, but still not a good idea if you want to keep the wheel since we marked it a bit and lucky that the next tyre worked
It works, but it cuts the rubber portion through friction, so it'll smell like a tire fire.
Yes, I have tried using an angle grinder with a cut off wheel installed. It burns the rubber, makes a lot of smoke, and makes an obnoxious smell (smells like a tire fire). However, I was able to cut the bead (and the rim).
I have since tried another method that worked without creating a lot of smoke (or smell). Here's the video: czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.html
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
Maybe use a heat gun on the remaining part of the rim instead of a screw driver
As I discovered later on in other attempts to remove car tires from rims, the steel wires buried in the tire's bead make it very difficult to remove the bead using simple tools. I don't think a heat gun would help but thanks for the suggestion. Use this link to watch how I cut off a tire bead: czcams.com/video/KSQgte-e0T0/video.htmlsi=wvkftH2KO4QC6LyF . Here are a few other attempts at removing car tires from rims: czcams.com/video/suYfkbVAKG0/video.html , czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html , czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.html .
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Time lapse video of a guy discovering tire beads are made of metal. How people post "How to Videos" of them discovering how not to do something's is absolutely entertaining. They still post them though haha
Yes, that would be me. I did try a few more times with better success: czcams.com/video/KSQgte-e0T0/video.htmlsi=rFC4UgGLCuMrMk_U , czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.htmlsi=qEiB-jA4iOUnyIj0 , czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.htmlsi=FemBy03IYCC6D-JX . By the end of the 4th try, I decided to give up removing tires from rims (so I could scrap the rims). Too much effort for too little of a return, but I did learn a lot.
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I do this for junk aluminum rims.. after you cut the tire off.. another way is to cut a line into the bead with a cut off wheel.. they’re cheap but create tire smoke
Thanks for the tip and for watching. I might try the cut off wheel the next time.
UPDATE: I did recently try using a thin cut-off wheel in an angle grinder; it cut the tire very easily but made a lot of smoke (so I won't be doing that again). Instead, I tried using a reciprocating saw, an oscillating multitool, and wire cutters; SUCCESS! Here's a link to the video: czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.html
Should soak tire around rim with soapy water.
Take prybars to it. Should loosen break bead.
Shops do apply water around tire to mount it to rim So basically should reverse it.
Elbow grease 💪helps
Here's another video that shows how I removed some tires from their rims using a floor jack, czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html . This was a huge amount of work.
Here's another video where I cut the tire off using an oscillating multi-tool, czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.html . This was actually easier to do than any other method I've tried so far using DIY tools. If you're careful, you can remove the tire without harming the rim. This is the method I'd use again.
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
You break the bead first then you cut the tire, then the beads are not stuck and you can just cut em.
At the time, I did not have the necessary tools to break the bead. But now I do. czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html
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@@ImaginethenMake a 2x4 and a vehicle would do it…. If you’re gonna use a jack get a 4x4, less chance of slipping etc. If the lumber slips down the tire, before it’s under a lot of pressure hammer it up against the rim before proceeding. I either use a 4x4 and a piece of 4x8 timber with a jack or I just use a 2x6 and roll my truck on it. 3’ piece does it
Thanks for the advice. I might try using a 4x4 and my car the next time.
gloves my friend thanks for the video
Yea, I probably should have been using gloves. The good news is that I did manage to finally find a different way to remove a tire from the rim by using a floor jack to break the bead. Here's a link to that video if you are interested: czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
@@ImaginethenMake I used some of your info but ended up using a large rock bar to break the bead once the tire was cut. I experienced a little bit of bounce but the weight of the bar finally won out. I then used the long heavy bar to remove the tire. I went from 30 min on my first wheel to about ten min on the other 4. I was so happy and it all started with your video so thanks again
@@johncelletti3108 You're welcome and thanks for your comment and watching.
I thought this was gonna be good technique but it wasn’t
The video you watched showed me cutting a tire off of a rim using a reciprocating saw. Here's a link for a different video where I actually remove the tire (without cutting it). czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html
Thanks for your comment and for watching.
That's too much hassel to get the bead off the wheel. Look around and get a cheap bead breaker. I bought a bead breaker 55 years ago and still have it. I never thought you could cut a tire up with a sawsall! You can get a bead breaker and tire changer all in one cheap at Harbor Freight. You can even change tires on magnesium rims with ease.
This was the very first tire I tried to take off of a rim. At that time, I didn't know that the bead of the tire contained steel wires. I tried a couple of other times with better success: czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.htmlsi=gUAD16yTxr6Whr-b , czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.htmlsi=IRon_8Wksbb39Mos .
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@@ImaginethenMake You did good for the first time. When I installed breaks on the rear drums, I couldn't get the breaks to stop overheating. I finally did after 18 adjustments.That means I had to take everything off 18 times, but I did it.
Good for you! The only way to fail is to give up and quit.
Thanks again for your comments and for watching. Happy New Year!
@@ImaginethenMake Been a long time since someone said good for you to me, thanks Happy New year to you as well.
Last statement was money! Break beads 1st.
Agreed. Once the bead is broken, the rest is "easy".
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Cutting the old tires off of
Hello Walter. After doing this video, I learned how to remove a tire from the rim using a floor jack. Here's the link to that video if you're interested: czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html
Thanks for watching.
Lol
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Yeh, nah, won’t be doing that!
Understood. The video you watched was try #1.
Here's try #2: czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html
And here's my most recent try (#3): czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.html
Try #4 should be coming soon.
The main goal for me at this point is to find a "quick" way to remove the tire with very basic tools.
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Dude you could have cut both side walls with a NEW razor blade/utility knife in under a minute. The cut the bead with the same knife.
These were truck tires. I tried cutting them with a utility knife; no good.
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@@ImaginethenMake Or you could of not even cut it, and use a jack to break the bead and easily remove the tyres.
I actually made a follow-up video where I removed a tire from the rim using a floor jack and a few other simple tools. Here's the link if you are interested: czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html
Hey CBR Rider >>> Shut Up !
Dude...you ain't cutting a tyre bead with a fucking knife,do you even lift?
If you don’t have a saw strong enough to cut through the bead then this method was a failure to begin with. Best method without tools is literally a long 2by4, place it closest to the tire bead drive on it the weight of the car breaks it instantly and if not then it will have at least started the process for u to break the bead.
Agreed. As I found out the hard way, I did not realize that there are metal wires in the bead. For those that want to know more, watch this czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.htmlsi=uKQBV2dBPMIFV6Lv ,
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$10 at any tire store. Not worth all that trouble.
Agreed. I just wanted to see if I could do it. I did get a little smarter and I tried a 2nd time. Here's the link for the video: czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html . But in the end, it took a lot of effort just so I could sell/scrap the steel rims at the local scrapyard. Now, if I had some aluminum rims with tires mounted, I think I would go through the trouble again, but not for steel rims.
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woooowwwwwwwww
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Excruciating background music. Different strokes... I guess.
The background music for this video is a light jazz piece; simple and upbeat. I chose it because I thought the majority of my viewers would be ok with it. Next time, try turning on "closed captions" (the button with the cc) and muting the sound (click the speaker icon). The words I am speaking will show up as text on the screen and since the sound is muted, you won't hear the music.
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you're starving man
I'm not quite sure what you mean but thanks for your comment and for watching.
Small angle grinder
I haven't tried an angle grinder yet. What kind of cut-off disc works on rubber?
A thin cut off disc , you cut longways and very slow or it will grab and kick back
After I posted my question, then I wondered if you meant to cut the rim close to the tire bead since I am scraping the rims anyway. But you meant to cut the rubber tire right?
@@ImaginethenMake yer the rubber .
I did finally try a thin cut off disc with my angle grinder on the rubber and it did cut it (more like melt it) and it gave off a lot of smoke and stinky fumes.
Image then Make Worse
I'm assuming you mean that I made the tire worse by cutting it off. I did try this again without cutting the tire: czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html .
Dumb way to do it🤣🤣🤣🤣
That was try #1.
Here's my next attempt (#2): czcams.com/video/K8uIcuQHOyI/video.html
Here's try #3: czcams.com/video/PhOQFARy7c0/video.html
Here's try #4: czcams.com/video/KSQgte-e0T0/video.html
I was doing this so that I could scrap the rims for a little bit of cash. But in the end, it wasn't worth it for me.
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