The TRUTH About Epic Empowerment (Dupes are DYING)
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I would love for faction guardians to be more along the lines of how empowerment works, sacrificing dupes to empower the whole faction so then my vault space will be freed
Agree, annoying how much space is wasted
Would love to empower my Coldheart... got 4 of her!
Give me one 😂
Yeah me too 😢
🎉🎉 for sure!! I have 7 and only need so many but feeding her seems insane lol
@@michelle.k9trainer same here. fed one once and felt dirty.
@@bateleur1 give me three!
I recall a CC saying Plarium doesn’t want to put rare empowerment in, because it would be a trap for early players. But they could level gate it. Make it level 50 perhaps. By then a player should have a fairly decent grasp of the game.
I genuinely empower every epic I can (obviously not sacrificing guardians, or champs I want in every Hydra team) because that stat boost can change a mediocre champ into a decent one. And that can make a huge difference in Doom Tower secret rooms and Sintranos.
Then add depowering , to receive copies back, or yea, a level cap.
I doubt new players even know about empowering so that is just a talking point for CZcams
Or a crazy idea would be to do what most good games do - properly educate the players on it. Have one of those arbiter pop ups or some unskipable video -or even an annoying pop up warning going 'hey, the rare champ can be used for this do you really want to use it? The argument is somewhat insane because I was still new and ended up with epic dupes that maybe would have been good to keep but were used as books, and a couple I fed not realizing their true potential till I built them later. I've seen people get dupe legendaries when their still new - the logic that 'it may be a trap to newer players' still applies to those rarities. And while sure it's not as likely now that the pool has been diluted with more rares - your still a lot more likely to pull extra Apoc's or frozen banshees than dupe epics or lego's if you screw up.
To say nothing of when your newer, and all you have is basically rares, maybe these days a free starter epic (things I wish I had, especially with ones like Tayrel or a reviver) - if they made it say 20 ACC/RES, a little more speed, etc - that's huge when all your getting is rares and have no use besides leveling them for levels sake cause you don't have any champs to level and a faction is full. Or even a 5% C.Rate (Epics should have a 10%) - cause it can suck when RNG says 'no epic/lego for you to get over that hump' and all you have is brute force with rares and whatever you got.
A mission to level up attack stats in the Great Hall would be a trap for early players, so Plarium would never add that to the game. 🙄
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i agree i want a +4 elhain
Me too
I want a +4 Riscarm lol
@@Tyyin. the rare? i have him 6star with faultless defense
+4 Elhain, +4 Kael, +4 Coldheart, +4 Selinia, +4 Reliquary. These would be my main empowered rares.
I have her with a 6 star soul and she's rivalling my 4 star soul Belanor in terms of damage, and Elhain has inferior gear. Those 2 are my only damage in FW and I'm beating 21 in less that 1:30 consistantly. A +4 Elhain for me would be insane
Appreciate it, ty. It's hard to be an older newb lol. I'm in the 271 days area, and there is so much info coming at yea. Especially when you want to be good, or at least decent. So you give yourself a name to keep you motivated, and striving to be a little better each time. Having to sift through all the info out there. Building your own library of info that you wish already existed lol. Then finding out that's yesterday's news, and get ready for today's events! Having to build what works best instead what you like or want. Only to enjoy the game and come back for more. Lol that turned into a rant, my bad lol.
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Who doesn't want a plus 4 Orboro, sweet. Hydra killer
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Yeah....
I don' know why people ask what other people think they "shouldn't" do. It's a good idea to have a fully empowered copy of every Epic that you own, just in case. As for which ones to do first, that is going to be determined by your RNG drop rate, and by what your account needs. Everyone's account is different.. you need to look at where your focus needs to be, and then decide on your own. Play 'your' game... don't recruit other people to play it for you.
They can instantly fix pvp with requirements. Between these lvl say 1-20 you can only use rares and allowed 1 epic. 21-40 you are allowed epics and rares with 1 legendary. 41-60 you can use anything but limited to 1 Mythical. That would never happen because you would progress early without the need to chase champs.
Dude ! When did you get Supreme Galek ?
is he good ?
I got stuck with Supreme Elhain recently, definitely not the golden void I was hoping for.
He is insanely good for hydra.
Imagi Ash you can have a +4 Harrier at long last
Correction, 4 pieces +4Harriers😂
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Due to sintranos I keep a second epic for simple reason it’s sometimes only way to complete a node
Yeah, Sintranos caused me to start keeping a lot of epics, now with empowerment, I'm beating stages I didn't have a chance to before, and as long as I can get to them, all the star requirement stages I can beat easily
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My take on all epics and their use... 1st guardian ring. 2nd empower. 3rd books. 4th food. Exceptions... Don't empower epics that are used in multiples ie. Uugo, Shamael, Royal Guard, Geo, etc. until all are built, or you have better alternatives.
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If the free gear removal was 24 hours that would be great. It’s an HOUR and that’s a joke.
There are 3 hr ones also and if you do your prep before hand then an hour is more then enough.
Watcher of Realms does it, Raid should as well
I'd like them to make the 50% Poison Sensitivity debuff work, since it's supposed to have been coded in the game since the lesser version was introduced.
I am glad someone finally said it. Because I have been of this mindset the whole time that I am just going to empower every Epic that I can because it just makes them that much stronger. And if I was ever relying on some dupe Epic as 4-star food, I have a bigger problem so that should also never be a reason to not empower either.
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I still don't have all my Faction Guardian slots filled, so that's my first priority for any epic duplicates I get. When I get additional duplicates, I use them to improve my Champion's skills. I'm not a high-powered player, so I don't have rafts of Champions developed and ready to move between teams. Empowering is going to be wasted for my account--I just don't pull shards often enough for that to matter.
I will say that I do regret slightly using my dupe Geomancers (that I hadn't done anything with) in that yeah - I'd need a new 1or 2 to build to have extra for hydra teams cause basically he's my main damage dealer - same time that +2 or 3 has taken what was already one of my best champs who could solo some stuff and made them better so hard to complain (highest ACC champ, actually has some pretty high stats in a life steal set). But generally I've found a good rule is -
1: Is it a champion you could use more than 1 of - if yes keep it, if no consider empowerment (if you rely on Geo-burn for hydra damage maybe keep a spare and don't be dumb like me)
2: Is the faction at that rank filled on faction guardians for those stats - if yes consider empowerment, if not use it there till some other dupe can take the spot (once maxed).
3: Is it a champion you use a lot - if yes go for empowerment unless it will wreck a speed tune for CB or other content, if not - it can wait till you might, take over a faction spot from someone you want to empower, or if you think it's better to save some time and energy (and space due to not having enough slots) use for food to make a legendary/mythical a rank 6, or even as a book.
4: It's a champion you don't really use - if your keeping a copy anyway, then yes save the slot if not used as a FG or if you consider it wouldn't be better making a legendary stronger faster and easier, with content like Cursed City at times limiting your choices or even some of the DT floors you may find that they could come in handy.
Can we get a guide on Truath? I got him the other day and I'd like to make use of him on my hydra and Doom Tower teams.
Hey ASH how do you have a +3 Dark Kael? I thought you only get doom tower champions once.
Hey brother any suggestions on a Grinner build? I remember you mentioned enjoying him but I have no clue on how to build him
I will make it happen on my guides channel soon :)
Ive been sitting on a 6* soul for him forever. Just haven't had a good reason or gear to build him up.
I don't use any dups in hydra for a simple reason. The champs I have dups for and want to use I can't spare the books for. I want to use my 2 Wukongs, Pythions, Deacon Armstrongs, but there are always champs I haven't built one of that I am prioritizing. Great Oak, Demythra, Lysandra, Wixwell, Ankora, Ukko, Hephraak, Magnarr, Quintus, and Tuhanarak to name a few. It sucks to get hyped about getting someone and know it will be months before you can use it at an upgraded level.
2 I want to +4 the most are genbo and akemtum. My genbo has 6* awakening and my akemtum has a 5* awakening.
I also have a 6* awakening for selenia which seems to be a really really good rare that I haven't heard anyone talk about. Especially if you combine her with another burn champ so she increase HP burn duration and the rest of her kit works off of hpburn mechanics 6* awakened as a void rare I think she might be nice for rare only content.
My answer is pretty much just empower epics every chance I get. There are very few I'd consider dupe building, so it just goes to condensing more power into one place. That not-so-subtle mention of buffing Tayrel a bit is a great idea. His 4-turn cooldown on his main ability means power creep has moved him from top-tier epic early on to just being a decrease ATK option for me. His base stats are also just a little bit lower than epics should have when you consider other DEF-based ones.
As far as rare empowerment goes... That idea should be screamed into every corner Plarium looks at, until they realize just about everyone wants it. So many uses now for skillsets that rares have with their lackluster stats, and so many rares that come very close to being rather good. Nature's bounty was a huge improvement but should have included buffs instead of only debuffs, and the puny stats rares have even empowered would still so often be weaker than unempowered epics anyway. I'd like seeing that more than most features anyone has suggested.
Hey, yes for new players the Epic Empowerment doesn't do much, until you get doubles from the top champs you've been playing for a year or more.
I hope rare empowerment comes soon, that would really encourage new players and you can get into the midgame much faster.
The first year of playing is all about reaching Gold V, Clan Boss NM and UNM and the 20-25 dungeons as quickly as possible. And rare +4 with a 5-6 blessing would really make a difference
I do like empowering all my Epics, but maaan, I have so many fewer chickens now for champ training. Used to be I would use the Epics I knew I already had a copy of as food (after faction guardians obviously), now I scroll down my Epics in the tavern and every one is an only copy that I might some day want to build!
When I first began I soon realized did I need to focus on one champion at a time and I needed to make them as powerful as possible for the fastest progression and I have never stopped following that philosophy
This is a completely separate issue from gear it's not about making that champions gear the most powerful it's about creating the most powerful set you can one set at a time for similar results
Put it when it comes to empowerment My only exception will be when I require multiples
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Should you only empower if your faction guardians in the ring are full?
I have been empowering most of my epic champs but I also have been keeping a dup. I like the thought of having a spare especially when they have new fusion champs because some of these are really hard to get especially void champs so I keep my dup in the vault so that for future fusions I can I have some just in case. I guess maybe because I’m new I never know if they might be apart of a future fusion champ
0:37 thank you, there’s some rares i still like lol
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I kinda hesitating for champs where I dont know if you could use two of them in sintranos. My roster is kind of limited
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Hey Ash I love your content I just have one question. Why isn’t your guardian ring leveled up and all 5 slots unlocked?
do it was rares too:D We have tons of trash champs , a power up over copies could be nice
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Hoskarul Guard sounds amazing 3:23
Empowered Elhain Yes please
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I'm surprised people ask who they should not empower. Pretty sure it is obvious that if you can make use of building more than 1 of a champ, then build more than 1, rather than empowering the 1st built one. Aside from that, built 2-3 copies of champs and use them all? Empower them!
Just keep in mind the champs you have speed tuned. I'd still empower them, but BEFORE doing so, make use of the fitting room. See if you can make that speed tuned adjustment before empowering and if you can, do so and then empower. This can possibly give DPS champs some bigger numbers.
For rare champs, I'm unsure on the empowering would ever happen. Plarium already said no to that idea. Giving in will just lead to the uncommon empowerments and common empowerments. I rather see some buffs happen.
Also, I would always faction guardian first. Empower comes second.
Ash, I agree 100%, with all of the new content areas in raid, it makes perfect since for most players who may not spend much, to empower whoever they have on their account.
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I agree with you on empowering everyone, except it might be a little different with doom tower single champions when you have to sacrifice a totally different champ. Like Archmage Hellmut needs Gerhard the Stone to empower him.
You guys get Epic dupes to empower your Epics?
Some are better then legos
What?
Yeah lmaooo imagine getting enough epics to get dupes
Hi ash
Just started raid
Didnt know anything about the game. You've been a huge help with tips and information.
Just pulled hellfreak and hope you could break down his A3 and what the limitations are on him thanks.
Sure- I will make it happen on my guide channel soon :)
@@ASH-RAID wow i am speechless you replied, thanks again, you are an amazing guy
Cant wait to see the rest of your content
I would add, only empower epics if you already have all your faction guardians filled up. Those bonuses help a lot too.
I can tell you now by doing an empowerment on several of my epics I have gotten way further in the game and most minor only powered up to two
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1:10 whats that scene? from>?
Any epic I already have double of gets empowered whether faction is not complete or not, most epics I don't need more than 2 of. Power to the empowerment
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Ash , I’m a free account that has just hit the 181 mark, I’m trying to push content but it seems a lot of my champions do the same thing , decrease defense on dam near every champ ,can you suggest a main team comp out of my champs please?
Champs : Rae , Tomblord , Dhukk the Pierced, Kaiden, Giscard, Deacon, khatun, deliana, pain keeper , dark elhain. I’m getting stomped on hydra and demon lord . I three stared campaign up to valdamar stage 3.
Epic champs that don't get much play are better as faction guardians than empowered; don't even upgrade their skills if they can be faction guardians. The only exception is if their faction has no other epic champ (epic faction guardians benefit only epics).
Why do you want faction guardians only vault champs? What is wrong about using main champs as faction guardians?
I just was able to fuse Lady Mikage. I'm lvl 100. I'm saving my dupes for the next fusion, which requires rolled champs.
One of the main reasons of empowerment is ofc, making your favorite champ more powerfull, but dude.. I loved the vault space aswell! lol..
Could you please do a build guide on your other channel for GLAICAD please I can barely find any info on him for builds and I really value your content Ash
Well this is not an Epic, but I empowered my Scyl before completing my faction guardians. and it has made a difference. With the non-empowered scyl I couldn't complete nightmare, yes I tried the cheese, but I couldn't click fast enough. With an empowered scyl and ninja, I completed nightmare. My thinking was I don't have many Barbarian legendaries. Yes I could've probably used two scyls on a team. But hey I got the sacred shard from nightmare.
I’m with you, if you haven’t already built them you probably won’t. I’ve been sitting on a lvl 50 husk and uugo for months but other champs just keep jumping them in line.
Great video
I still havent empower any of champions yet. I do have few geo. One pure dps in unkillable cb team. Other one more survival for iron twins and other bosses.
Totally agree, with so many new champions coming in and the current powercreep there is almost no need for epic dupes anymore
Epic Faction Guardians are full, everything else gets directly into empowerment, it's at least something to close the ever bigger getting gap between Legendary and Epic champs (not even speaking of Mythicals) for F2p/Low Spender
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Great video as always Ash 😁 👍
Thanks man! Glad you like it ;)
I agree. I’m empowering all the champs I like no matter what. As long as I have the faction guardians done, I’ll continue to empower.
My thought is this: If you give a rarity souls, then give them empowerment as well. What's the point in having a 6 star soul for a rare if you can't empower them.
I only like to empower Epics that I actually use in content. Being f2p, I don't just max champions just to max them, so they always have some purpose. Otherwise I'd just stack chickens until I get someone useful.
Been farming Torturehelm for a few months now through fusion, up to 4 so far.
Empowering champions helped me clean up the vaults. Freed up about 100 slots in each
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I like this emp of epics. Had so many dupes of each.
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The game continues to expand and adding content that will require champs you hardly use. I empower all I can. It’s a no brainer. I have a fully empowered Deacon, Fatman, Wuzgar, Dhukk, etc. I haven’t been playing long but I bet there are some longtime players who don’t have those. I will also say that it’s become very easy to mistake an epic as food. That champ could be the very key to complete some content.
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Uugo and Burangiri are the only two I have empowered at all. Waiting for an extra Geo, Magnarr, and Stag Knight
I wouldn't empower Uugo since he's a hydra carry
This is why i love sintranos and am happy they drop sintranos first. Can you imagine how mad everyone would be if they dropped epic empowerment and then sintranos?
If this will be the case than its only logical to straight do empowerment for all even uncommons and commons
Sadly it's not a 24 hour free gear removal. It's only for an hour. Yall make sure you use Hell Hades optimiser prior to using the free removal
With all the new champs they've been adding, seems like it's affected the pull rate of the dupes i was getting. I haven't been pulling dupes at tte rate i was.
I built three Mordecais for Hydra and now I will be empowering all three of them as it seems my account has a permanent 100X Mordecai for Ancient and Sacred Shards.
What I will say about empowering is go to your doomtower epics first like helmut before the other epics because I'd rather empower him instead of kaiden or whoever his champ equivalent is
Recently got my armina to +3 first ever champion empowered
Congrats!
video idea: is it worth to play raid shadow legends in 2024
im a returning player and idk if its really worth spending time into this game cause of the huge gap with mythicals
ive already got bunch of kael's waiting just in case we get a rare empowerment he is goated imo
It would make it easier for new players to catch up if they make Rare empower
RARE EMPOWERMENT! AND WHY CANT I HAVE A +4 ARMIGER AND SHIELDGUARD!!
I just pulled a duchess lilitu...please show me an updated build vid👍🏿 extra juiced by the way. Coldheart...now duchess, what's next 🤔 a mythical...?
Congrats! I added her to my guide list :)
I still want to see a QoL change to tell you what tournament points are what when you get them. A symbol, some text, something
I am pretty much empowering everyone. However those are a lot of 4 star chickens that I am missing out on... Newer accounts have to be wary of this.
The free gear removal 'coupon' is for 1 hour, not 24!
Lordly Legionary, sorry after 5+ years of being useless in the game he's food with only exception being faction guardian until better faction guardians come along. But otherwise he's food to level up my new Marius faster who will make a difference on anyone's account. If I ever can max out all the slots to put champs in then maybe I'll start saving crap champs and empower them. Arndulf, Cannoness, Exeplar are wasted space, food from the start. I'll cry about that crap turned to gold champ once Plarium turns them into gold. Hey Ash where do you use Pyxneil even remotely more than once a year for a video and after how many buffs now? My low spend tushy with limited vault space will empower what I feel will benefit the account and feed the ones that will benefit the champs I want to level. Let's be positive, epic empowerment is a good thing, rares would benefit the players as well. Your video applies to most of players and champs in the game I would say, so thank you for your viewpoint and taking the time to share it.
I just got back on Raid after a couple of years and started over with a rare and below only account. So I definitely second rare empowerment haha xD
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I agree with 99% of what you said and your reasons about it but I 100% disagree with rare empowerment because they are just meant as entry level accessible champs to the game until you start getting good epics and legendary
epic empowerment looks like it would be a good move for things like Faction Wars if certain players don't have a lot of Leggos
Ok Ash, real talk: If rare empowerment was a thing, would you empower Harrier?
Losing food for champion training which might be more beneficial for the account then empowering a champion that's not used.
Oh, I empowered Lorn, and one other that I am at a loss to remember. I'm LOVING the epic empowerment 👍🏿
I mean, Vrask is very niche but at +4 he'll be viable outside of Doom Tower and FW.
Thankfully i had enough geomancers to make a +3 and keep my iron twins copy
Champion token needs a major overhaul
Just got 6 star crushing rend Ruella for CB and FK, need dupes!
If I could I'd get you a few. I have already +4 my Ruella (I love her btw) and I still 2 left.
Hey Ash, I see most of your champion's have 250+ speed, can I get to the end game with My champion's having 200-220 speed
I empower Venomage, Urogrim, Orn and Toragi to make it less gear intensive for them to solo content.
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Ash I enjoy your videos,but how about great hall medal conversations.how about converting bronze medals to silver @ least.same way convert potions
Here is the problem with rare empowerment. Think about how the game is setup now with all these limitations. You can only use force, you can only use rare, you can only use hp. What’s going to happen is the challenges will just get harder because they will be scaled from the empowerment stats and not base stats. Remember back when we said this rare is not worth build guys? Well guess what.. Now it’s mandatory to build them if you want to complete X section of the game
This was always a problem because of certain champions had to be used in certain places. That will never change as long as there is content that will need certain mechanics than only few champions will bring.
@@skorpion7132 It’s the design of the game to require you to keep pulling shards. However, my point is rare empowerment does the opposite. Why do I need to pull shards for this champ when I can just empower some rares to get the job done. Rare empowerment goes waaaay against what they want.
@@skorpion7132 epic and legend empowerment makes sense because it gives players a reason to pull shards. Rare empowerment just means you don’t have to chase champs. Just build rares. Rares are literally just an excuse for them to say they gave you something for your money.
Deacon is a plus 4 already for me
Why empower an epics you don't use? Use those dups instead as chickens. Otherwise, you have to get and build all your chickens from commons to rares. Yes empower rares. Without empowerment, the few rares that are good will go away, because they fall further behind. Not sure how Cold Heart or any other stays viable if all Epics are empowered. It still amazes me how some Epics I may have pulled 20 dupes over the years, but I still don't have Inquisitor Shamael or Madame Serris. I have played 4.5 years and still have 1 Maneater.
I agree with you bro ..
I finally have taught ash to be smart .... he finally got what empowerment meant ..... good boy
I got 6 5* cards
I need a dupe venom mage to empower her