Could a single alien message destroy us?
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- Listening to alien messages poses an extinction risk if grabby civilizations are sending them. This means that the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, particularly passive SETI, needs to be approached with caution.
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It doesn't have to be comprised of common household objects to be realistic. It just has to be within the reach of even 3rd tier national governments on Earth. So I'm calling shenanigans on the statement that the scenario is "unrealistic." Sure, but it took me 5 seconds to think of a closely related scenario which is much more realistic.
EDIT: Re: 90/10. I grew up somewhere, where we had to drive 50 miles to visit friends who were also Asian, but whose ancestry wasn't the same. My experience: 99% of people are nice. However, if your differences are that salient, the 1% of sociopaths spot you all too frequently. Since it's plausible for Kardashev scale 1+ civilizations to create very powerful telescopes, it seems likely that even a 99/1 universe would have a high likelihood of a sociopathic civilization finding us.
Yeah your the first comment on this video
Make avoid on what would happen if we ran out of oil fossil fuels etc.
I imagine the "publish instantly" protocol is an attempt to prevent a monopoly on alien tech, which is a different kettle of fish.
perhaps just give access to the ET messages to various organizations (picked randomly and names are scrambled, procedures in place will ensure no one knows who those orgs are and maybe give one, well known and trustworthy org access) and tell them to publish it if given the "go ahead" by a simple Ai or timer or something
to prevent that monopoly
@@stinkybirdhouse "randomly"
"trustworthy"
*well known*
No thanks.
this. its because no one nation can be trusted to hold that knowledge. and even IF they do withhold it and are responsible with it, other nations once they found out about it would throw a temper tantrum and nuke the world.
@@stinkybirdhouse yeah, I highly doubt it’ll work like that.
It's also likely meant to prevent the information being buried entirely, permanently. If we imagine the signal to be from a non-grabby, single planet species then there's almost no chance it would be harmful. Their thinking is the opposite of this video's, that the potential that the message be beneficial to humanity is too high to ignore.
Think of it like this: What if it was a message for a universal cure for disease? Ignoring it might save the billions on Earth right now, but if we go thousands of years before contact again we would condemn potentially HUNDREDS of billions to die needlessly. They may place more importance on humans currently alive than the theoretical trillions that may eventually exist.
I just love how much this channel has grown. It’s like a philosophical Kurzgesagt.
i would say it's less philosophical than kurzgesagt
@@jettpack9168 eh it just depends on what view you have
this one talks about subjects that are less explored by other science channels on CZcams unlike kurz
Yes lol
The channel talks more about aliens in the future than kurzgesagt
This reminds me of an article in the Orion's Arm universe.
For those who don't know there's a science fiction Universe called Orion's Arm set 10k years in the future, on this setting the future civilizations that arose from our current one detected a transmission from a remote place of the universe that once decoded and translated contained instructions to build a powerful AI and a claim that once built it would give extensive help and guidance to whomever made it.
In order to test this machine out one of our own AI set up a planet to test the device, filled it with robots designed to look and mimic how a baseline human civilization (like our own) would behave and then proceeded to build the device. Once finished the machine proceeded to spit out nanobots to kill all macroscopic life on the planet then cover almost all of the surface of the world with Fusion Plants and Solar panels and then proceeded to build a massive Radio broadcasting facility that sent the same message that lead to it's creation.
The AI overseeing this experiment destroyed the machine and everything it built. After this incident it was later detected that this message is being broadcasted across multiple points in the universe all far away from each other.
Essentially this message is intergalactic malware.
This is very cool!
I remember this. Half the galaxies in the observable universe broadcasted this message if I remembered making the location of the original source unknown. It was lucky our civilization was advanced enough to know the risk and tested it safely.
sounds like humanity :)
Basically SCP-7759
Lol, that’s literally a planetary VM!
Honestly, I could see extraterrestrials doing something like this _by mistake_ , via gifting us with something that they genuinely believe would be greatly beneficial to us without considering the possibility of us _horribly_ misusing that gift.
That’s literally the plot of a Star Trek Voyager episode.
that sound more like it.
after all, crafting the message to destroy us sound like more of a hassle that is worth it.
However a miss communication due cultural differences happens everyday between humans, imagine with aliens.
yeah like they think we eat some posionous substance like they do or something so they teach us how to 'end world hunger' by creating a mustard gas replicator.
Hey guys! Did you know that jellied fuel burns much better than liquid?! You can cᵒᵒᵏ ʰᵘⁿᵈʳᵉᵈˢ ᵒᶠ ᵐᵃʳˢʰᵐᵃˡˡᵒʷˢ ᵃᵗ ᵒⁿ.... [sounds of flame intensifies]
Or worse, the instructions are legit and it is harmless when produced properly... but the shifting (or variance in) the laws of physics have rendered it hideously dangerous. These messages would be extremely old and have traveled extreme distances, even if no signal degradation occurs, the best evidence we have is that 'constants' as fundamental as the speed of light in vacuum and Gravity aren't actually constants and shift continually. (If only slightly.) Given more advanced technology usually has tighter tolerances and technology's fundamental reliance on consistent physics, the possibility that a design could have utterly unintended results (or just not work) is significant.
Building AI or something like that using instructions, provided by untrusted source is like downloading an executable file without any signature and running it with administrative privileges.
think of it like a trojan
…Which is something a lot of people do without thinking twice.
But the people who build it are good at Computer Science, not IT. An important distinction
There might be a way to combine household materials to make a bioweapon, for a certain definition of household.
Probably. Chemical weapons are already something anyone with common chemicals can make, so bioweapons aren't that far fetched.
Well, if you combine certain cleaning agents, you can accidentally create certain chemical weapons that are banned under the Geneva Convention.
If aliens want to manipulate us into destroying ourselves with a bioweapon, they first need to understand our biology. Sending us an antimatter bomb has no such prerequisite. (Remember that the premise is that we're in the aliens' outer shell, so they can't visit us to experiment on us.)
I thought about that, but to make an effective bioweapon you need to now the biology of the target
@@comlitbeta7532 alien mistake of their own military corvette
4:35 This is exactly what Sauron did in the LOTR books, but instead of AI he granted them the Great Rings…
Yes. It's more rational to male AI not just evil, but collaborationistic.
Something like that
It's also the same story as the discordian myth of eris and the great snub.
The knights Templar, king Arthur, a lot of legends may have been based on suppressed and hidden alien technology. 👽
@@TheMatrixofMeaning discordian indeed.
The best evil message to send would be a polite hello, an actual technological gift that would be beneficial, and a location that a return message can be sent to begin full contact.
Then, if a return hello message arrives, deliver another present at the speed of light directly into the planet that sent it.
But, wouldn’t that also open themselves up to a relativistic kill strike?
@@getfuckedstayfucked No as the location listed for the return message can easily be located in a different star system then the one they live in.
@@getfuckedstayfucked not necessarily
The one thing worth noting is assuming a low probability of intelligent life means that the civilization is likely many hundreds of light years away - messages take a really long time.
The idea that it'll be easier to keep the messages under wraps after we announce that WE HEARD ALIENS feels at best foolish. The best hope in my view that prevents evil message risk is to sabotage listening, which has a 0% chance of success but its a bigger 0% 😂
"Yes, media. We did make the worlds biggest discovery in human history. And no, nobody is allowed to hear it. Only an unelected shadow cabal of 'experts' and 'scientists' can read the message from god. Luckily institutions can be trusted implicitly to not have any leakers or renegades spoil the information. Ditto for every other space telescope on the planet."
lmao
Seti HQ would be burned down in a week if the military didn't get to it before the public did.
True
Yep. Hackers, amateur signal seekers, spies... Everyone will be enthusiastic if government officially finds aliens.
(You may say that everyone will be considered conspirologists and banned... Well, you compare it, but scenario will be completely different, mainly because unlike with conspirologists, we met no real aliens before)
0% + 1/infinite chance?
If aliens send us a message, we should respond in kind and send them a rickroll
It either turns into a laugh for everyone or full scale space war, which seems like a win-win situation
What if the aliens send us a rickroll? 😮😂
@@abcde1054 we nuke em
@@-Kagura_Bachi- based
@@abcde1054 then it would either become very obvious that they have been watching us for a while now, or we accidentally picked up interference from our own communications.
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i'd like to imagine that once the aliens have gotten all the important maths/biology/physics communications over and done with, they just transmit to us a bunch of alien movies and tv shows
more homework for future humans i guess 🤷♂️
The bitrate must be atrocious. You think streaming 4K with data is bad? I cannot imagine how much buffering an alien show would have.
@@pauldeddens5349 it wouldn't be streamed, and would probably be compressed. and even then who cares if it's 144p it's alien movies
@@pauldeddens5349 it’s called physical media. It’s what existed before the digital nazism became the norm to braindead consoomers
@@theidioticbgilson1466 😂
the fact that we've thought about this means other civilizations are almost guaranteed to
I have been fascinated by the 'grabby alien' hypothesis since I learned of it through this channel.
I really appreciate this expansion on the initial theory. Clearly it's early days and great thinker's are only beginning to scratch the surface, in a very limited way.
I hope a great excitement builds around the main theory. I can't explain why but I think it's a genuinely important topic. If not for the defence of humanity and Earth but for our own future.
There is definitely a lot to learn here.
Thank you as always, the narration is perfect and I absolutely love your artists and graphics people. Huge pat on the back to them. ❤️
If you're into the Grabby Aliens discussion, check out Isaac Arthur ("Science and Futurism with Isaac Arthur")
He has dozens of videos covering these topics in a very interesting, rational way!
Same. It's like a mix of altruism and futurism that can give life a whole new meaning because not only are we focused on making the world a better place for our kids but also for the many thousand generations that come after us (I hope so!)
@@ordan787 How does a giant civilization maintain a common identity or directive over enormous distances when information travels EXTREMELY slowly? By the time your dating profile gets updated on the other side of the galaxy (100-200K years later) humans there would have evolved into sentient crabs.
Did Star Trek brainwash everyone into forgetting basic physics or did I miss something?
@@dangerfly eer, not sure how that's relevant, but sure
The short answer is that you probably can't maintain common identity or directive over large distances.
But like, we already see that in our currently civilisation. Portugal and Brazil share history, but they don't share a common identity or directive. And Portuguese folks certainly wouldn't bother sending their dating profiles to Brazil (?)
@@ordan787 So then the competitors aren't unknown underdeveloped civilizations, but the infinite splintering of mature ones due to the size ceiling. The model at [3:54] is completely wrong.
There are no large 'United Federation of Planets' or evil 'Galactic Empire'. The only universal oppressor is the slow ass speed of light.
I read a book called The Killing Star where aliens launched a barrage of relativistic missiles and and wiped out humanity. They also sent a signal that just melted anything that listened to it by turning it into strange matter globs.
Poor writing on the second part: strange matter requires the density of a neutron star to create.
@@AvangionQ Strange matter is an entirely theoretical idea anyway, and we could be clueless as to its properties and characteristics. We can't definitively say advanced enough technology couldn't just create it at a whim without assuming a lot of details
@@AvangionQ if you already have some matter, just throw it at things and "conventional" matter will turn into more strange matter. Other problem is what to strategically do with all that pile of turd, that "boils" and spews drops of strange matter on other planets and star systems.
@@AvangionQ Actually the broadcast carried instructions for the devices to dissolve into nanobots but the outcome was the same.
Strangelets?
I have written a story in which a civilization sends out interstellar signals with instructions, and following those instructions creates all kinds of useful tech, which receives and decodes further instructions to basically print instances of the senders (actually, just their robots, at first). You see, they are a grabby but slow civilization: their sphere of domination is expanding only at 10% of the speed of light. But hey, messages are cheaper and faster! It's basically colonizing by signal, and it's efficient when it works out.
Or they send us the alien equivalent of a Rick Roll…
I'll take that over alien malware anyday!
*sends 30 anti-matter bombs* "haha, gotcha!"
@@umsaga259 😂
These videos keep getting better and better; hopefully this becomes a 'grabby' channel.
It seems to me that watching these videos makes people relax a little, knowing that none of this would happen in our lifetimes. But the truth is that this could happen at ANY time. Probably long after our lives, but could happen any second. We have no way of knowing.
Hehe, true, and it seems that you'd like for people to freak out more
@@diosamurcielaga9418 no no no, come on guys dont PANIC, its not like THE WORLD IS ENDING AND WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE OH MY FCKING GODDDDD AAAAAHHH, no its nothing like that, haha ha
- Media outlets
@@genzu6388 true, media outlets have always been that way though, they are just better at freaking us out now.
Gamma ray bursts exist.
@@genzu6388 u high?
I love that supervolcanoes are below SETI as an existential threat.
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The content and production of this channel is incredible. Thank you!
Had something like this in star trek Voyager iirc, where they sent a probe with instructions on how to generate antimatter en masse. They came across the planet centuries later and find them having destroyed themselves lol
They doin' a little trolling.
@@Sucullentbutter nice
Another great video. This channel keeps getting better and better with each upload, thanks for all the hard work it is appreciated. I started to write a novella about this subject but have not done anything about for almost a year. This video has renewed my interest in the subject again.
This is literally the proverbial: I'm not going to ask her out because I fear that worst.
I believe intelligent life is rare enough to be, quite literally, too far to find another one. For practical purposes, we are alone, no risk of attacks, no chances of anyone coming to lift us.
Intelligent life is plenty abundant, even here on Earth from several orders life like ourselves and our Great Ape cousins, but also including Corvids and Octopodes for instance. What's exceptionally rare is intelligent life developing into civilizations that survive and thrive long enough to finally start colonizing the stars and becoming grabby. Space and Futurism with Isaac Arthur describes these hard steps as individual filters and to me, perfectly explains the Great Filter Hypothesis
I'm intelligent life, 😳 and so are all of you. We arrived here over a very long journey from the first single cell organism. That's a long time to get here. Intelligent beautiful life arrived here. And I'm going to counter your assertion about your outlook on the you know lifting us up part. 🌻
@@Texelectric I agree. That other life forms have already occured somewhere in the universe is much more likely than some advanced civilization that is already trying to conquer the whole thing.
@@Texelectric I'm a big fan of Isaac Arthur. But intelligent life in this context means technologically intelligent, not smart as apes. We are exponentially more intelligent than any other creature on this planet.
@@Texelectric Well, all of the biodiversity on Earth came from the same point, and only have this planet for reference. We can’t use Earth for reference across the entire cosmos.
I'm absolutely in love with this video. You guys have come so far with the channel it's quite amazing. :)
Thanks 🥲
These are the channels I love!! Glad this popped in my feed! Subscribed!
It is an amazing feeling when you follow the begins of a channel that you know will one day blow up in popularity, like vsauce or kurzgesagt
Exciting to see this series continue - fascinating exploration of SETI related concepts along with a great graphical theme and outstanding narration.
Interesting approach to a "Dark Forest" scenario.
Read “the killing star”
@@hehexd4557 Signal to Noise
This brings to mind the concept of strong voluntarism. The idea that all civilizations will converge on a policy of self-control for their own survival. The existence of an easy-to-build doomsday device would possibly lead to that method as the only way to avoid extinction.
Loving the animation in this one. So smooth and cool!
can't believe i get to watch this wonderful channel in its infacncy before it becomes big
Very true. I've been a big fan of Robert Miles ever since his appearances on computerphile. His personal channel has incredible content about ai that I highly recommend.
With this level of production and the aesthetic, though, a channel like this is basically guaranteed to shoot into the millions
Same
indeed
Keep up the good work
Wow your 2nd
That cat just chilling with the space dog was amazing.
This could make a good punchline for a joke in a sci-fi comedy.
Ah yes, Cixil Liu and his goddam Dark Forrest, terrifying everyone previously optimistic about SETI/METI.
Never stop making this videos.
2:14 - the disappointment on the doggos face when he finds out that the risk of this killing everyone on earth is small.
Just found this channel and am glad I did so! Keep up with the great work! Definitely leaving a sub.
Even scarier thought: what if just receiving the message is enough for the malware to compromise our computers? This might be unlikely, but every time I read anything about hacking it seems more and more likely that universal no-click malware like this could be possible. (Like the no-op sled, where no matter what location your initial execution lands in, eventually you get to good code to exploit. Or the PDF hack a couple years ago, where they used a custom font to manipulate the instructions for previewing the document, to emulate a CPU, to then run arbitrary code in a "no code allowed" PDF.) Ancient aliens could be experts at this crap. :E
The no-op sled still requires a buffer overflow for you to inject code, and thus can be prevented by good coding practices. What's more, the aliens can only send a waveform, such as a binary signal, and have no way of knowing our encoding standards like ASCII or Unicode, let alone CPU instruction sets. At a minimum, their message must be decoded by humans in order to make sense to human computers. Assuming that this decoding is possible is still a big ask.
I would think aliens would need a fairly good understanding of how our computers work before they could program malware. For instance, why assume a binary code? Our computers use that because it corresponds to a hardware based on/off state. But other known computational machines exist (biological brains), and these rely on neurons with a fire/not fire state, but which also includes multiple chemical neurotransmitters to encode information _within_ fire/on/“1”. So a computer doesn’t need to be binary, that’s just how we built them because of the constraints determined by the course of how our technology developed. There is no reason to assume aliens would build computers the same way we would, or that they would understand our how to subvert our computers without having the opportunity to study them first.
Viruses
The animation is absolutely stunning! So underated!
I love how this channel started growing. Quality increases from video to video.
Humanity becomes a grabby civilization in the future.
Everyone who played Stellaris : *Laughs in galactic war crimes*
The chance that the danger in a message is discovered before someone implements it is much higher when messages get published right away than when they are kept under wraps, because in the latter case dangerous secret services will still get the message, but we will not learn that it is dangerous before it is too late for countermeasures.
Obviously the best way to handle a potentially dangerous think is to keep acces to it exclusive to a closed, corrupt, manipulative group that has been repeatedly demonstrated to not even care about its own survival in the long term.
5:50 There is also the possibility of an expansionist civilization being some kind of ‚caretaker empire‘ (to use the Stellaris term), meaning they send AI out there to settle space and find other civilization to protect as well.
So I don‘t think that us being more likely to detect expansionist civilization increases the chance of any detected civilization to be malicious. I think those two things are mostly decoupled from each other.
haha, I just realized it's not just the voiceover / script reader sounding like Rob Miles, but that's literally whose distinctive voice I recognized. very nice.
Love the thoughts. Thanks a lot for the video ♥️
This is a very eye-opening theory. I never thought aliens could be that manipulative. Psychological weapon is still the best weapon after all in warfare.
I'm enjoying the fun little Robert Miles (narrator) easter eggs, like "unaligned AI" at the top of the Existential Threats list!
These videos are criminally underrated. I absolutely love it!!!!!
Fantastic animation style, subbed
Take a "scam likely" approach to any off world message
Such an underrated channel!
"This story is unrealistic"
*_sweats nervously in At-Home CRISPR_*
Incredible animations and captivating story as always.
Amazing animation. Great voicework. Peak CZcams!
Amazing content man, i love it so much
Great video. And right before the release of three body problem in December too. Excellent
These videos are so crazy, entertaining, thought provoking and fired up my imagination and terror of the universe
It seems to me, the question is “how long is the time between “verbal” and physical contact?” If the time is short (which may be more likely considering that Kurtkesat said that our messages will become unreadable after a few hundred light years). If the time is short, wether we listen or not is inconsequential (in universal time) since if they’re hostile, we’ll die after a few millennia anyway. In that case we should listen, in case we get some information which can spare us (either from a helpful civilization working against the hostile one, or by finding some information, let slip from the hostile aliens themselves). This slim chance of survival (in the event of hostile aliens come to us, is better than the zero percent chance of survival from meeting them “face to face”.
That's an interesting point. Perhaps not opening and starting to expand ourselves is another viable survival method - e.g. expanding in the opposite direction
@@tolleythinking1058 "Run Away, Run Away!"(Monty Python: King Arthur and the Holy Grail)
@@tolleythinking1058 But, imagine if the message came from benevolent aliens:
Aliens: "Here's the answer to Life, The Universe, and Everything."
Humanity: "Run Away, Run Away!!"
lol
Aliens be like: we do a little bit of trolling
There's this book series called the Three Body Problem series and all it took for humankind to go kaput was one single message. Great series highly recommend
I love the scientists in this hypothetical event:
"We found weird alien technology stuff"
"Cool, let's tell the entire earth how to make it!"
5:21 for a moment i thought that said ‘British’ which does make sense in this context
Same lol
9:11 because we have a great historical track record of doing that here...
@Iggy Madness Me too, Iggy
Makes you think we already got a message and are currently hiding it
Ah yes, common household items.
"What do you mean you don't have an electron depolarizer at home? How do you do anything without", Aliens probably.
Everyone, Please turn off your virtual headsets for an hour or 2, we are being attacked by alien computer virus.
6:20 Even if the aliens are friendly that may not be a good sign. For instance, perhaps they’re so friendly and nice that they give us the secret to unlimited fusion power…however, they accidentally give this to a terrorist organisation (since they don’t understand the concept of “terrorism”), who use it to create a gigantic nuke and destroy the planet.
Imagine if it ended up in the hands of the Islamic State... those bastards believe that by murder, pillage and rape of anyone who opposes them THEY will spend an eternal afterlife in HEAVEN, so I doubt that they'd have much hesitation to set it off either...
Or they underestimate our stupidity.
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I absolutely love this channel 😁
interestingly horrifying
The most malicious thing that can happen is them simply telling us they exist, they surround us, and we cannot leave our Oort Cloud.
"SENT, LOL"
"Fleebleglorb you are a genius that was such a funny troll"
Great video. I love this channel.
I love your channel because its like kurzegaseast, but with dogs and about aliens. My favorite things. :)
Dude the scenario you described at the start is similar to getting a message from a Nigerian prince and you think they're trying to give you money but they just download a virus on your computer that destroys everything you own
An alien sending me malware and stealing my credit card info is my worst fear
Why would they send a risky message when they can just send a rock at a non-negligible fraction of the speed of light.
Ay! I really like the voice over guy. Miles better than most.
nice
This is similar to the plot in the newer Outer Limits (from the 90s), episode Final Exam. A disgruntled college kid realized how to make a "cold fusion" bomb from basic electronic components and materials and he realized that this is the answer to the Fermi Paradox: Everyone civilization inevitably builds one and destroys themselves.
Another amazing video on an amazing channel about an amazing topic
The issue is that if we decide alien messages can become classified information, you can immediately expect the US army to become the sole holder of this information, thus keeping the choice at the hand of the president, or worse, a few rogue generals keeping it a secret from them.
Who said anything about handing over the information to the US government? SETI researchers should hand it over to the UN.
I have a feeling @Rational Animations already has this topic coming up as he briefly alluded to it in this video, but sending messages to space is definitely more dangerous than listening to messages. The same line of logic from this video is all the more true in the case of broadcasting our own messages, and what's worse is you don't know who is receiving your messages or when they are receiving them, and no matter what you've sent it can be used to locate you. A grabby civilization could send some kind of weapon in the direction of the message and you'd have no way of knowing.
Broadcasting is only dangerous if there is someone who is not yet aware of our existence. But we can detect other planets and their atmospheres with our puny telescopes already. Any interstellar civilisation knows exactly which planets are inhabited hundreds of light years around them.
Sending messages is definitely more dangerous, but the good news is that you won't suffer the consequences of your own actions. The closest living civilisation is probably at the very least thousands of light years away (likely much farther). By the time your message reaches the aliens and they take any action, you and many many generations of your descendants will be long gone. You may have ensured humanity's doom in the future, though.
"HI Jack, bye Jack."
I just found out that this channel only has a few videos and it just recently got started up again 😭 I was hoping to binge videos all night
So now the question is should we send dangerous messages into outer space in the future?
You know it's a good channel when you see an upload and then get immediately sad that in only 10 minutes you will not have new video anymore.
What is this babble that you speak ?
@@scottsound4711 I think he's trying to say he's scared of clowns.
@@scottsound4711 is puzzle for big brain, try figure out
This is also the plot of „Signal to Noise“ by Eric Nylund. Definitely recommend.
that one alien that sent the instructions: we do a little trolling
As a human I fear more for the aliens than us 😂
This is why I'm against METI. Who knows what's out there?
Send them Ezekiel 23:20 and find out...
So far there seems to be nothing out there, I say let's keep searching! As much as we can.
In an episode of rick and morty, they send a detailed design of a teleporting space ship to earth, since they are locked in a box by a massive being. 😂
One of the best channels in CZcams for sure!
Another excellent video, all praise to the mighty R.A. 🙌
Giving you are proposing to send robot centipedes to dissemble the Universe aliens have good reasons to send us such a trojan gift. But a more realistic scenario would be a "dark forest strike" with an asteroid sent at close to relativistic speeds.
This would give alien leadership plausible deniability when governing their own species. "We shared unlimited energy with the hoomans, and they accidentally destroyed themselves..."
Only if they're close enough. A message would just be the first tactic, before they've reached an alien physically. Realistically, they'd do both.
"Hey boys, we found us some Scooby Snacks!"
Earth 🌎- "Uh-oh!"
"You now breathe manually."
More cosmic horror!
Nice video, would be interesting thinking what weapons one of those aliens from the ‘dark forest’ could try to use against us, like relativistic missiles or something
Self replicating nanorobots. You can send an instruction with all the explanations and safeguards that ensure that it is safe. The prospect of having post-scarcity economy will be too strong to resist.
And when they (us) realize that the safeguards have one fatal flaw, it is too late, and their planet is consumed by grey goo.
Highly recommend the remembrance of earth past trilogy. Best sci fi ive read last decade
I'd guess it would be something that would be more catered to a civilization sophisticated enough to be an impediment to them. No reason to chuck near light speed artillery at every noisy clump of rock they encounter, since that might notify any more developed civilization of both their presence and their intention in the event such a civilization had the foresight to develop decoy worlds on the periphery of their own territory.
We aren't a threat of any kind to already grabby aliens, and could easily be contained to our own planet with relatively little debris in orbit to be dealt with later. Whatever they send out would need to be subtle and specific, since the possibility of biting the tail of a bigger fish would be very real and very disastrous.
@@microwave221 extermely well thought the idea of decoy worlds for more advanced civilizations to catch agitators on its border