I too initially bought into all that, "Randy was my best friend" bullshit that Ozzy continues to spew. That Mrs Rhoads has to sue the Osbournes over what they owed his "best friend" really tells you all you need to know.
Yeah, maybe in retrospect he can say Randy was a friend. But while Randy was alive, for Ozzy, he was just a cash cow that revived Ozzy's career. What a F__king bully to sucker punch Randy. He's at least twice the size of Randy. You just never know about a person until the dirty laundry comes out. In the end, he's got to live with himself and that's punishment enough.
@@jameslanclos568 I'll listen to the old Ozzy albums for Randy and Jake's playing, but I wouldn't piss on Ozzy or Sharon if they were on fire now with all that's come about how they did people. Horrible people to do business with.
Randy put Ozzy back on the map and Bob was a key part to Ozzy's success through the years. Randy, Bob, & Lee should be millionaires' many times over for what they produced.
Without Bob's lyrics, no matter how great Randy Rhodes was ( and he was definitely a monster) Ozzy Osbourne would be irrelevant and begging for change to get a bottle of vodka.
Sharon didn't want randy to become more popular or else they would need to pay out the real star of the show, hence why we don't see live footage of randy. Simply the Osborne's are greedy.
well she did have the MTV show lined...Randy should have been playing that. But yes they are sit on live video as they try to reduce Randy to a sidekick status
Some truth there but when I think of all the greedy cheapskates that have screwed me over my whole life who weren't Jewish, have to say that the most generous person I ever knew was my Jewish girlfriend. She deserved all her success that she attained because people loved working for her because she was generous , kind, and hilariously funny.@@frasermalcolm2645
You're a sucker. Bod Daisley is a con man and you're his mark. Daisley was then as now a seasoned profesional musician who know how the business works. If Bob wanted more money he should have negotiated a better contract. If Bob was ripped off, why did he go back 5 more times all the way up to the early 1990s? THe fact is Bob has had his lawsuits thrown out becuase he signed a contract. When the lawsuits failed he tried a new approach throwing shade via a book and tabloid headlines, and you bit hook line and sinker.
@@mickblack3291 They had a chance and they declined because Zep would always be the priority. Queen did the same. Peter Grant had worked for years under Arden. That is where Peter learned the business from. He left Arden in the 60s.
@@jamesdean1143 What does that matter? Plus he didn't live under any faith from what I have heard. He did what he wanted when he wanted. He had no dogmas holding him back. Any religion he was associated with happened in a much younger and different Peter. It seems to me he was someone willing to do whatever it took to succeed. I dont think he had any religion holding him back.
Peter Grant had one motto 90% the band 10% whoever the fuck wanted it that was it. That is a complete truth. I’ve heard and watch many interviews 90- 10 That was a the touring part of it. We know that the albums were different, but the artist kept and owned everything. Zeppelin invited Black Sabbath. They were hanging out in the studio and then once they asked them to join their record label they got all butt hurt, which is tragic because look at what happened to them until the late 80s had to give all the music to some idiot didn’t pay attention to signing.
Awesome presentation dude... Lots of photos I haven't seen before... I met Randy and the band (minus Ozzy) in Feb. 1982 at the Sam Houston Colosseum at their 5pm soundcheck before their show. Myself and two friends got to go in Randy's backstage dressing room and ogle at his guitars.... then they let us watch them run through Mr. Crowley in it's entirety during soundcheck. Just three of us and road crew members only... I was 22. His autograph still hangs on my wall.... A month later, he was gone
There is a youtube interview with guitarist, Bernie Torme, wherein he claims that he was enticed to play with Ozzy in the wake of Randy's death for $2000 per tour week, Essentially penniless, Bernie took the gig, flew to the US and was told by Sharon Osborne that his salary was miscommunicated and that he would only make $500 per week filling in for Randy. With all the $$ that tour must have made you would think the musicians would be respected and paid well. Not so it appears.
I read about this in a book. Bernie got screwed pretty bad on that. When he split, they let him keep a Strat, and I got the feeling when reading it thaat he was exercising " extreme class" knowing he would be in print and downplaying how bad they USED him. The book also talked about Bernie using Randy's pedal when he first arrived in the states, how the crew were upset about it, and how the pedals would act up on thier own accord like they were HAUNTED.
Musicians like Randy, who revived Ozzy's career, deserved much more. Sharon's management practices, including the exclusion of Kerslake and Daisley, are shady as hell. Jake E. Lee not getting credit is another issue. Ozzy claims he has no memory and that Sharon handled the business, but that seems like selective memory. Sharon and Ozzy greatly benefited from the various musicians over the years. All songs (music and lyrics) on Bark At The Moon are still credited uniquely to Ozzy - like he even knew what a chord progression was. Why people like Sharon on those talk shows is beyond me.
Ozzy is a liar, he could absolute tell her to make it right for people. He allegedly told her to reinstate the original Blizzard of ozz albums, But he cannot tell her to scratch Jake E Lee a check or fix the credits on BATM>? this guy cherry picks his lies.
Are you daft? Your comment: $300 then equals $1000 now. so Randy was making the equivalent of $52,000 per year. That’s poor people Money. Randy was NOT making a good living when he died, and that makes it even sadder.
Gettin' old Gettin' grey Gettin' ripped off Underpaid Gettin' sold Second hand That's how it goes Playin' in a band If you wanna be a star of stage and screen Look out, it's rough and mean!
My Maserati does 185 I lost my license now I don't drive...I ride in limos sit in the back I lock the doors in case I'm attacked...I go to parties stay till it's four it's hard to leave when you can't find the door...I write hit records my fans they can't wait they write me letters tell me I'm great... now I got me an office gold records on the wall just leave a message maybe I'll call...I live in hotels tear out the walls I have accountants pay for it all... lucky I'm still sane after all of this time I'm just looking for clues at the scene of the crime.... I'll keep on going yes I'll never know why ....Lifes been good to me so far !!!
They treated George like absolute shit. I think an Ozzy album with Lynch playing had the potential to be really good, but since I'm a big Dokken fan I guess it's better things worked out the way they did. The Osbournes are examples of those people who treat others badly, but for some reason Karma let's them get away with it.
I know people that were close to Randy's circle of friends and some that worked on the documentary in 08'. He got a big payout right before he passed on writing royalties and was house hunting with Jodi in Malibu area on that last break before the 2nd leg of the diary tour started. Up till then he hadn't got it and was pissed off about having to pay for the black jackson Grover dropped off at the Diary rehearsals. He yelled at Sharon to pay Grover for the guitar.
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Who Anthony.. ? I thought you knew everything.. No need to run to a fb group.. you make no sense. quit acting like you are the greatest Randy fan.. lol I am privy to things you have no idea of.. plus i did see Randy live. LOL
@jimbo0411 I'm just offered to help not sure the attitude. I'm not acting like I'm some great fan ..I have no idea who you are but I offered to ask somebody. I'm learning new stuff everyday. I guarantee. I was too young to see Him live...not sure what the issue is. Sorry if you got insecure about something I said I'm just trying to help. I'm the reason the holy Grail conversation even got a second tease of life whoever you are. But apparently you know who I am.
Randy Rhoads was worth far more than what he got. I was surprised that Jake Lee got so little as well. They really must have loved performing as the money simply wasn't there. All the members of his band were great musicians and should have been recognised as such.
lol, little randy barely deserved 100 bucks ! so over rated.. lol just a hired hand, never could cut it in his own band, had to bail and join an already established act as a hired hand...lolol
@paisteplayer1040 You are just jealous of Ozzy and his legendary success. 2 albums with Randy and still went on to become a rock god after Randy passed, without Tony. Ozzy just got better and better as he went on while Black Sabbath took a back seat to Ozzy's solo career after they booted him ... your opinion is truly the minority and proven to be totally wrong through Ozzy's history.
@@robertneville9606 I was surprised, after all you know, but it was employment, but I couldn't imagine what the goos paid him, probably not much...but I guess , Randy isn't 5he only one who could have gotten the job done, he is just the one that did...
Jake E Lee was miserable the entire time with Ozzy. Especially after seeing his old friends in Ratt become millionaires after touring Out of the Cellar. Apparently each member of Ratt got a $1.2-1.5 million dollar pay day for that tour. Big money in 1984.
lol, little randy barely deserved 100 bucks ! so over rated.. lol just a hired hand, never could cut it in his own band, had to bail and join an already established act as a hired hand...lolol
Seen both blizzard of oz n mad man tour Norman Oklahoma, I remember watching Randy Rhodes shredding I don't know solo, WOW I knew he was greatness, I was hooked
It is so shocking to me that Randy Rhodes resurrected Ozzy Osbournes career and then his mom had to sue him to get what they owed him. Shame on Ozzy Osbourne and Sharon!
the lawsuit of the Osbournes by the Rhoads family is speculation....a lot of people say it happened. I have never seen evidence of it happening but it would not surprise anyone
Yes but Bob Daisley insists that Randy didn't do it alone. It was the chemistry of four of them. Ozzy was non-productive and continuously drunk. Randy, Lee and Bob Daisley supported Ozzy to get him back on his feet. Quiet Riot with Randy couldn't get a recording contract which goes to show that Randy wasn't the 'cavalry' alone, or maybe they would've been signed on the strength of Randy alone. Ozzy was 'the name' with the following that came from BLACK SABBATH and that helped them a lot, which is the reason they accepted a lesser royalty rate to Ozzy, but never got paid anyway. Randy was a fantastic guitarist with great song ideas and Ozzy had the 'trade mark' voice. Randy and Bob put most of the first album together musically and Ozzy's vocal melodies were creative and important. The lyrics are equally important to the whole thing as are the drum and bass parts.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 Yep. My take on it is that the Blizzard of Ozz project was such a (likely unexpected) creative and financial success that they decided stick with that formula for every subsequent album and just punched in new metal musicians as they went along that they felt could write to this formula. Ozzy is essentially a drunken, affable cartoon character with stage presence who says endearingly goofy things in interviews and on reality TV. And that's why he's a star and the musicians propping him up are not. In fact, Ozzy's star charisma and his prior metal cred with Sabbath is largely what the Ozzy machine is built around.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 am not saying Ozzy doesn't have star power. Obviously I am influenced by him, as are millions of singers and artists. I think Randy really didn't reach his Pinnacle until Blizzard of Ozz. The reason why quiet riot didn't get signed is because at that point in time he was not standing out among the many van Halen clones. Ozzy gave him free reign artistically and he quickly blossomed into a virtuoso
Many of the big bands owed money to their record labels unil they got a few albums under the belt. Uneducated people read about these performers net worth and think they have 100 million in the bank. It's just not true. The only problem I have with the Ozzy and Sharon situation is that all those great players like Randy wrote all the music and never got royalties.
David, You are correct. Both Joe Elliot and Slash basically tell the same story. Slash thought, after Appetite for Destruction finally took off in late 1988 world wide the millions would simply flow in. Someone put him straight. Simply put, if your album doesn't sell 4 million units in the US you owe your record company. Slash recieved $US500k cheque in February 1989. Duff said when Appetite kept selling the cheques became quarterly, and yes, that was after 1989. Starter Bands The instruments, record studio, production, mixes and very costly marketing and distribution costs a fortune. The 4 million mark was true. On the 40th Anniversary of Def Leppards - Hysteria- Joe Elliot told a similar story. Elliot said ' we were told that after 3 months after its release that Hysteria was a flop . . . and a costly one. ' Leppard owed Polygram $ US 3 million. But then . . . For some unknown reason Pour Some Sugar on Me took off. Hysteria began really selling and selling, selling and selling 12 × Platinum 17 months after its release. Elliot said " we went from looking like we owed the record company $US 3 million to making millions as Hysteria exploded worldwide and the singles also sold as well as sell out concerts across the globe. Elliot further said and as Slash also found out, the individual band members don't get the large cheques until 2 years after the money starts to generate. Bands who only had 2 × Platinum sellers mostly become reliant on long tours for sustainable income. E.g. KISS in the 80's
Yes, heard many similar stories like Van Halen owing their record company after their first record. Vinnie Vincent not joining Kiss because of how little they paid him. Trent Reznor not paying his band that much. I guess they are also a business and try to keep as much as they can for themselves.
@Sups614 The so called " Alternative bands" were the worst. Cobain Dave Grohl said: Once Kurt realised how much we'd be making, he instantly demanded a song writings royalties restructure. Cobain did write most of the lyrics . Grohl added that Cobain turned into a nasty greedy c # n t once the huge cheques began in late 1992. E.g for every million generated Gohl & the two others received about $150k ! Cobain's estate was worth $US 100 million a decade after his death. Billy Corgan James & Darcy had no idea about copyright royalties. Morgan deliberately hid it from them. Corgan bought a Ferrari in '96 for cash whilst Darcy and James struggled to pay their rent aftet the Smashing Pumpkins bubble burst and the touring money 💰 ended. D'arcy and James demanded their 'fair cut' and Corgan who was still raking it in, said in 1996 he would from 'now on. ' Only the first three albums sold millions where D'arcy & James received NO royalties. James refers to Corgan as a low lying c#nt and slime bag. Both D'arcy and James found our that even after lawyers advised Billy that he should at least offer James &,D'arcy 5 per cent collectively, he refused and made out they were so drug addled that they would overdose and had no idea about business. How low can you get ?
Great video. So much trickery. And Sharon changing Randy’s contract after he was killed? And Mrs. Rhoads having to sue the O’s? Wow. No limits to what they would do. Yet, no Blizzard of Ozz band, no Ozzy. And all of the other musicians who were taken advantage of and hosed like Bob, Lee, Jake, Carmine… Even Tommy Aldridge got hosed out of a writing credit on Spiders according to Bob.
The last Ozzy album I bought was The Ultimate Sin. I never got into Zakk Wylde and his overused squeal. I'm not a fan of Ozzy. I'm a fan of Randy and Jake. Ozzy does indeed worship the devil. Because he's married to her. Rumor has it that there is pro shot video of concerts with Randy but Sharon won't release any of it because "it will cost too much money to convert it to digital". Really? People convert 8mm home movies to digital all the time without going broke. She just doesn't want to have to pay out royalties. Maybe once Ozzy and Sharon are gone, Jack will do the right thing and release those concerts.
That is exactly how I evaluated Oz Guitar players. Zack is a good guitar player but uses the sequels so much it gets annoying listening to a song he played guitar on. Good points you make. I will take it one step further. Jake was on equal footing with Randy. Oz was so lucky he came along as he was perfect for that time period. The Bark at the moon solo is legendary. I been playing for many years and still mess that one up.
As always a great informative well researched video; thanks for the post. There's two types of people; there are those who at least make some sort of attempt each day to live by The Golden Rule, and there are those who *don't.* After decades on this planet i'm astonished HOW MANY 'money robots' there are out there -- they have no soul or spirit, they're meaning, definition, and purpose in this life is money. Yes I love money like everyone else, but I learned when I was a teenager when you steal a dollar it will cost you seven dollars in karma or what you sow you shall reap. Now do the math when you steal 100k and so on...
A photographer who hung out at a rock bar we used to go to during the mid 80's did a photo shoot for ozzy and Sharon wouldn't pay up. I think that was the first time I became aware of her. Sad to think that Randy never got paid for the incredible music he wrote.
1983 I was a classical guitar teacher and met Vivian Campbell and couldn't believe I was making 6x than he was making. I was buying apple stock at the time lol
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle he said Dio got 50k a gig and he got $400, it was fascinating that he talked about it. He said, you go do the gig and I'll go to your house and have your chicken fried steak. Really cool guy!
My first job in 1985 after HS paid 3.40 hr, that was minimum wage then where I lived. so yeah 300 a week back then was decent money especially if all your food and what not is being taken care of and that isn't coming out of your check.
well, it's all in how ya look at it. $300 a week divided by 5 days is $60 divided by 8hrs a day is 7.50 an Hr. That was probably Factory pay, back in the day or a little more. He had to stay on the road touring miserably due to a contract & cheated out of royalties and then Died. Yeah, I bet it wasn't what he dreamed of, but he made incredible music that will last forever.
Good points and true but… you were likely doing minimum wage work where Randy was doing maximum schredding and allowing Ozzy to ascend (and the whole organization). By those measures, he was woefully underpaid.
I got to meet Randy backstage at an outdoor concert back in 81. After thier set, they took some group photos till Sharon started to bitch at the photographers and than they had split up. Ozzy, Sharon and thier entourage found a patio table while Rudy, Tommy went back to their trailer. Randy was left alone and was sitiing in a road case having a smoke and sipping a strawberry daiquiri out of a plastic cup. It didn't look like Randy and Ozzy were buddy buddy,
what show?> their real tension started in February when he told them he wanted to leave and refused to do a Double live album with Sabbath covers, and half Blizzard of ozz songs. Ozzy has romanticized the relationship and of course now he is changing his tune saying Tony is the greatest., he is a fraud
sharon also offered Randy a management fee before they were fired but he turned it down because he did not think he should be paid more than anyone else in the band
@@incarnate6779 In a way, RJD and his wife had no difference with Ozzy and Sharon. Essentially, they are both personal band which mainly make money for their own.
One of the first problems, was during the Blizzard of Ozz European tour, Ozzy sometimes performed two shows at the same venue. Daisley & Kerslake wanted double the pay.
It's worth it to me I said that I never wanted money just the chance to play with a band and make friends with musicians and slowly make my way in the business. I suck at making friends 😢
Judas Priest released their “British Steel” album in April, 1980. Ozzy released “Blizzard of Oz” in September, 1980. If he had titled that album, “British Scum,” he could have capitalized on the success of the former. Truly, a missed opportunity.
Why do you think Randy said he wanted to go back to school and study Classical lol He was a Guitar teacher at 8 bucks a half hour I paid in 1979 I am sure he made great money Randy bought all those custom guitars teaching not on Ozzy or Sharon’s salary .
A comment below reminded me that I tried auditioning for Ozzy when he had an open call for guitarists and Zakk got the gig. If I knew what I know now I would have never of tried. I never got the audition (I gave them my demo and photo's) but I have to say it went to the better man. Zakk was a total Black Sabbath fan.
@@ShawnStaplesFreeGuitarLessons met Chris at a radio expo where I ended up finding the Randy Rhoads after hours tape in 1988, the much coveted video. I asked Chris about Zakk, and he said we would like him, he 's good. I asked him if he were as good as Randy Rhoads and he looked at me and said: is anyone as good as him
Ozzy may have been the star, but it was largely off the backs of everyone he played with including Sabbath. Randy changed the game. He was one of those once in a lifetime guitarists like Jimmy Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Eddie Van Halen, Tony Iommi. It is really sad that Ozzy made millions off those two albums and Randy, Rudy and Tommy made squat. Take those three out of the equation at that place in time, Ozzy would have been another washed up has been. That band is what revived Ozzy's career and put him in a place financially where him and Sharon were able to call the shots. Even the Record execs were done with him and all his BS he did from all the drugs. Sad when you look at the Rhoads family music school and everything they have. It is all run down and dated because they don't have a lot of money. Randy was one of my favorites. I seen him play a couple weeks before the crash and we couldn't wait to see him again. Still makes me shake my head to this day every time I think about his loss and how it occurred.
No, Bob daisley worked with Vai to do a side project called X-Ray, it was not going to be Ozzmosis. You forgot to mention Bob helped write and do all lyrics for No Rest for the Wicked. He was asked to do lyrics for No More Tears , and he said fine but he wanted a royalty so they asked Lemmy to help out. They screwed Bob over. In 2012 when the Osbournes were releasing the Box set of the 30th anniversary, Sharon reached out to Bob to acquire the Holy Grail tapes. Bob wanted a flat sum and royalties. Sharon refused to give the royalty. The reason is because the Osbournes only want those holy grail tapes if they can own the IP to edit Bob out. the Holy Grail recording sessions will show ozzy was not around on 90% of the Diary of a Madman recording sessions. This is suppoedly what Andrew Klein said in an interview since he heard those recording sessions, he also verifies that the quality is perfectly fine
Bob Daisley said that in 1994 he and Steve Vai worked for the next Ozzy album which came out as 'Ozzmosis' in 1995. Steve Vai said he wrote a few songs for Ozzy and the only song which remained on the album was "My Little Man" but Zakk Wylde played it his own way on the record. Vai said that he recorded stuff that was too heavy for the record company and they told Ozzy to get rid off Steve Vai.
For what it's worth: My guitar teacher in 1988 auditioned for Ozzy, and was in contention for the gig. Jake spoke to him, as well as others who were in the running, and told them his horror stories. No contract to start, with the "trust us" speech, being cut out of writing credits, Sharon's personality, having to work with a drunk, etc. guitarists were backing out left and right. It was his opinion that he started to look for, and found a guitarist, Zakk, on the east coast far from Hollywoood, as there was a better chance of finding talent that wouldn't be told the real deal of working for Ozzy.
I think a lot of people in the industry knew of the Osbournes and their lowlife proclivities but it was still a coveted job, people wanting to get a chance to launch their careers and also get better by playing Randy's stuff. Jake luckily got some leverage for Ultimate Sin. But it is pathetic to force a musician to sign over stuff because he is young guy with no money,,absolutely horrible, I love Jake's integrity refusing offers to go back to offer unless they credited him on Bark at the Moon, not even seeking retroactive payment
Ozzy owed Jet Records two more records (in order to get out of his contract). Sharon decided to have Ozzy release a double live album, which in those days qualified as two records.
I don't think Ozzy had any say in anything. Looking back, Daisley, Randy, and Lee wrote the hits and Ozzy was just a transport vehicle for the music to play on airwaves. But nothing could happen unless Don Arden took well over 75%. In the music business, the artists NEVER make anywhere near what the business gets.
he absolutely did, then you are suggesting he is the biggest mangina cuck to walk this earth. Any man who lets his wife run amok like that and does not have any say is a gutless coward and cuck. That is even worse than believing he signed off on everything which he did, Jake E Lee said he knew he was getting screwed over. Ozzy's quote in the press release about re-recording the two masterpiece albums. Randy, Bob and Lee wrote the albums that Blizzard of ozz recorded.
Let's be real here....Ozzy would have never been anything without being part of Black Sabbath. There are many reasons for this, but the obvious is Tony Iomi. He had the riffs that changed metal. And of course the song writers who were NOT named Ozzy. He would have never even made it out of Aston, Birmingham, England
Yes that's what Bob Daisey says, "Ozzy had been fired from BLACK SABBATH for being non-productive and continuously drunk and consequently had earned himself a bad reputation. Randy, Lee and I supported Ozzy to get him back on his feet. I know QUIET RIOT, Randy's L.A. band, couldn't get a recording contract which goes to show that Randy wasn't the 'cavalry' alone, or maybe they would've been signed on the strength of Randy alone. Ozzy was 'the name' with the following that came from BLACK SABBATH and that helped us a lot, which is the reason we accepted a lesser royalty rate to Ozzy, but never got paid anyway. Randy was a fantastic guitarist with great song ideas and Ozzy had the 'trade mark' voice. He wasn't/isn't a great singer but he was original with a recognisable voice. Randy and I put most of the first album together musically and Ozzy's vocal melodies were creative and important. I think the lyrics are equally important to the whole thing as are the drum and bass parts."
@@karsguitarchannel6088 as for Quiet Riot, I think it’s fair to say that Kevin DeBrow was the guy making all of the musical and song decisions. He tried everything. And Randy was just developing as a writer himself. I don’t recall anything by Quiet Riot resembling his classical style in those early days. DeBrow was just looking for a hit to be signed.
Ozzy only had 2 good albums after sabbath and that was" Blizzard of Oz" and "Diary of a Madman" , due to the band members really after that he could never come to par those albums.
The Osbournes are notorious for not paying their musicians jack shit. They paid Zakk very little as well. It's pretty messed up! It's great exposure to be Ozzy's guitarist, but terrible pay. I understand why Nuno turned the gig down. The Osbournes really are NOT good people! Ask George Lynch about how he was treated by them.
I always heard that Dolores Rhoads settled with the Osbournes in the early ‘90s for ~$300,000, turning over Randy’s image and songwriting rights. Ozzy & Sharon never talk or promote anybody else besides Randy because they are “Randy”. There cannot be a Randy documentary without their involvement.
Ozzy was on a shoestring budget at this time. Remember folks Randy was only with Ozzy for 2 years. He didnt get a chance too rake in the enormous $$$$ that he generated quite sadly. In 1981 $100 a day was the buying power of $300- $400 today. Sharon's father Don kept the profits and gave very little to Sharon and Ozzy when he was the management. Thats where Sharon got her brutal business practices from. Don was Ruthless with bottom paying his talent. Sharon followed in his footsteps and ran off mucho talent with her strong arm negotiations. In her defense without her Ozzy likely lives in an Alley in Derby somewhere pan handling for dope money.
I agree. Sharon learned from her father, in her defense when you are playing with wolves, you learn to bite. I don't condone those practices but then I was never in that business. It all comes down to the type of business you are in and what you need to do to make it a success. It's my belief that Ozzy and Randy were best friends. Even today when talking about Randy, Ozzie tears up. I doubt he even knew what Sharon was doing because he was always lit, he preferred the fun side of the business. I am not making excuses, I'm just saying, these things happen all the time in every big business so no one should be shocked. I think Sharon did what she felt she had to, she played a man's game and won. A lot of people benefitted from that. You also right about making the big bucks. AC/DC did't start pulling in the big bucks until Back in Black and they had been touring for around 5 yrs to that point. You gotta pay your dues if you want to play the blues 😁😁
I only agree with Ozzys part in all of this back then. But everything can be negotiated. Just look at the writers' strike in hollywood. Everyone learned how crooked the business was. People can always choose to be grateful and appreciative of the most valuable people around them. Sharon chose to underappreciate Rhoads- a valuable and key asset. I dont mind if she screwed road crews, drivers, catering, etc but she should have taken cared of someone important as Randy- its a no brainer!!!!
"Gave very little to Sharon and Ozzy" Lol! You actually believe that crap. Like Donny would keep his baby hag Sharon on a string. Ozzy maybe, but not Sharon, she knew exactly what she was doing and had a pile of family money to operate and, most importantly, fall back on.
what is reported is not correct, Randy was offered a management fee and royalties, There is a reason he used his first big check of 5K to buy a classical guitar.
The truth is, Ozzy is greatly loved as an artist, but his and Sharron's alleged fleecing of the talent will end up being better known than anything else they ever did in the end. It's getting there already, but the damn will beak. It's worth a Netflix doco for starters.
yes by low standard people who lack for morals and standards. I could never love a POS lowlife like that. I like the music, love the music. Sharon AND Ozzy
I too initially bought into all that, "Randy was my best friend" bullshit that Ozzy continues to spew. That Mrs Rhoads has to sue the Osbournes over what they owed his "best friend" really tells you all you need to know.
Yeah, maybe in retrospect he can say Randy was a friend. But while Randy was alive, for Ozzy, he was just a cash cow that revived Ozzy's career. What a F__king bully to sucker punch Randy. He's at least twice the size of Randy. You just never know about a person until the dirty laundry comes out. In the end, he's got to live with himself and that's punishment enough.
@@jameslanclos568 I'll listen to the old Ozzy albums for Randy and Jake's playing, but I wouldn't piss on Ozzy or Sharon if they were on fire now with all that's come about how they did people. Horrible people to do business with.
Zakk Wylde is Randy Rhoades. They had to fake his death cause he wanted to leave Ozzy and Ozzy owned the rights to the name Randy rhoads
@@EZPZBudzYou know you need some strong medication!!...Yes!?
@@EZPZBudzOr maybe its just these "budz", that burnt your wires!!
Randy put Ozzy back on the map and Bob was a key part to Ozzy's success through the years. Randy, Bob, & Lee should be millionaires' many times over for what they produced.
easily. Especially Bob, Randy and Jake, saved his ass. And Gus G....man if he had another album or two with Ozzy. Gus's riffs are so damn underrated.
Lee was with Uriah Heep for years. He didn't deserve that treatment. Sharon Trump.
Without Bob's lyrics, no matter how great Randy Rhodes was ( and he was definitely a monster) Ozzy Osbourne would be irrelevant and begging for change to get a bottle of vodka.
I agree with all of you
@@jameslanclos568 Darth Hideous....it's her nickname! 😅
Sharon didn't want randy to become more popular or else they would need to pay out the real star of the show, hence why we don't see live footage of randy. Simply the Osborne's are greedy.
I thought about this one and you are right. If he lived, Randy would have went on to super stardom all by himself.
well she did have the MTV show lined...Randy should have been playing that. But yes they are sit on live video as they try to reduce Randy to a sidekick status
Don't forget how that skank controlled, in every aspect.....every single aspect, right down to the last red cent.
LOL! You beat me to it.@@frasermalcolm2645
Some truth there but when I think of all the greedy cheapskates that have screwed me over my whole life who weren't Jewish, have to say that the most generous person I ever knew was my Jewish girlfriend. She deserved all her success that she attained because people loved working for her because she was generous , kind, and hilariously funny.@@frasermalcolm2645
I have no respect for Sharon and Ozzy anymore . They BOTH ripped off the band members they promised would get credit for making songs .
I never had any respect for them. You don't go thru band members like Ozzy did because you were a good person and great to work for.
Guess we know why they have repeated a Whirlwind
no one should have respect for those two frauds...they are bad people
@@incarnate6779 good point ...and there are stories of people turning down auditions because of ozzy's rep
It is business. What do you expect.
I saw Randy with Ozzy on that first tour. Motorhead opened the show. What a night!
🤘
Am jealous. Lol 😆
I saw that tour too! Dude...we are so old.
It was a good show for you, but the band was pissed off
I saw too. I was lemmy's mic.
Sharon ripped Bob Daisley off.
And lee kerslake also
Bob did keep coming back to write lyrics for ever increasing amounts of money.
You're a sucker. Bod Daisley is a con man and you're his mark. Daisley was then as now a seasoned profesional musician who know how the business works. If Bob wanted more money he should have negotiated a better contract. If Bob was ripped off, why did he go back 5 more times all the way up to the early 1990s? THe fact is Bob has had his lawsuits thrown out becuase he signed a contract. When the lawsuits failed he tried a new approach throwing shade via a book and tabloid headlines, and you bit hook line and sinker.
And Jake E. Lee
Yeah, and in the media, she acts like Little Miss Goody Two Shoes. WOW Sharon!
Makes you really appreciate just how lucky led zep were to have peter grant
Sabbath should have teamed up with Peter Grant with all the trouble they had with 'manager's ripping them off
@@mickblack3291 They had a chance and they declined because Zep would always be the priority. Queen did the same. Peter Grant had worked for years under Arden. That is where Peter learned the business from. He left Arden in the 60s.
@@TheEWFX29
Arden and Grant were both Jewish, but at extreme ends as to how they treated their artists.
@@jamesdean1143 What does that matter? Plus he didn't live under any faith from what I have heard. He did what he wanted when he wanted. He had no dogmas holding him back. Any religion he was associated with happened in a much younger and different Peter. It seems to me he was someone willing to do whatever it took to succeed. I dont think he had any religion holding him back.
Peter Grant had one motto 90% the band 10% whoever the fuck wanted it that was it. That is a complete truth. I’ve heard and watch many interviews 90- 10 That was a the touring part of it. We know that the albums were different, but the artist kept and owned everything. Zeppelin invited Black Sabbath. They were hanging out in the studio and then once they asked them to join their record label they got all butt hurt, which is tragic because look at what happened to them until the late 80s had to give all the music to some idiot didn’t pay attention to signing.
The great thing is Randy made it into the Rock N Roll Hall of fame before Ozzy did as a solo artist.
Randy Rhodes is in the hof?.?
Awesome presentation dude... Lots of photos I haven't seen before... I met Randy and the band (minus Ozzy) in Feb. 1982 at the Sam Houston Colosseum at their 5pm soundcheck before their show. Myself and two friends got to go in Randy's backstage dressing room and ogle at his guitars.... then they let us watch them run through Mr. Crowley in it's entirety during soundcheck. Just three of us and road crew members only... I was 22. His autograph still hangs on my wall.... A month later, he was gone
Based on a true story! 😂
There is a youtube interview with guitarist, Bernie Torme, wherein he claims that he was enticed to play with Ozzy in the wake of Randy's death for $2000 per tour week, Essentially penniless, Bernie took the gig, flew to the US and was told by Sharon Osborne that his salary was miscommunicated and that he would only make $500 per week filling in for Randy. With all the $$ that tour must have made you would think the musicians would be respected and paid well. Not so it appears.
"miscommunicated"
I read about this in a book. Bernie got screwed pretty bad on that. When he split, they let him keep a Strat, and I got the feeling when reading it thaat he was exercising " extreme class" knowing he would be in print and downplaying how bad they USED him.
The book also talked about Bernie using Randy's pedal when he first arrived in the states, how the crew were upset about it, and how the pedals would act up on thier own accord like they were HAUNTED.
@saltpeter7429 No he didn't. Bernie has flat out said that Ozzy paid him the $2000 a week, plus gave him a nice bonus on top of it
@@saltpeter7429 The pedal was already acting up before Randy died according to an interview I saw with Randy's brother.
Musicians like Randy, who revived Ozzy's career, deserved much more. Sharon's management practices, including the exclusion of Kerslake and Daisley, are shady as hell. Jake E. Lee not getting credit is another issue. Ozzy claims he has no memory and that Sharon handled the business, but that seems like selective memory. Sharon and Ozzy greatly benefited from the various musicians over the years. All songs (music and lyrics) on Bark At The Moon are still credited uniquely to Ozzy - like he even knew what a chord progression was. Why people like Sharon on those talk shows is beyond me.
Ozzy is a liar, he could absolute tell her to make it right for people. He allegedly told her to reinstate the original Blizzard of ozz albums, But he cannot tell her to scratch Jake E Lee a check or fix the credits on BATM>? this guy cherry picks his lies.
Are you daft? Your comment: $300 then equals $1000 now. so Randy was making the equivalent of $52,000 per year. That’s poor people Money. Randy was NOT making a good living when he died, and that makes it even sadder.
And they treated Bob daisley like shit! And his lyrics were absolutely essential to Ozzy Osbourne
they have tried to write Bob out of history....been total bags to him
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle exactly!
It’s a long way, to the top, if ya’ wanna rock n roll.
Gettin' old
Gettin' grey
Gettin' ripped off
Underpaid
Gettin' sold
Second hand
That's how it goes
Playin' in a band
If you wanna be a star of stage and screen
Look out, it's rough and mean!
It's a long way to the shop if you want a sausage roll 😋
@@jasonweinberg932 Bon Scott
aint no fun waitin round to be a millionaire
My Maserati does 185 I lost my license now I don't drive...I ride in limos sit in the back I lock the doors in case I'm attacked...I go to parties stay till it's four it's hard to leave when you can't find the door...I write hit records my fans they can't wait they write me letters tell me I'm great... now I got me an office gold records on the wall just leave a message maybe I'll call...I live in hotels tear out the walls I have accountants pay for it all... lucky I'm still sane after all of this time I'm just looking for clues at the scene of the crime.... I'll keep on going yes I'll never know why ....Lifes been good to me so far !!!
And George always said he didn't get the Ozzy gig but ended up make more money delivering beer
Hahahahha
They treated George like absolute shit. I think an Ozzy album with Lynch playing had the potential to be really good, but since I'm a big Dokken fan I guess it's better things worked out the way they did.
The Osbournes are examples of those people who treat others badly, but for some reason Karma let's them get away with it.
Seems true but sad. Real talent deserves to be paid appropriately
@@Roger8176 unfortunately I believe you are talking the truth
George is a cry baby
I know people that were close to Randy's circle of friends and some that worked on the documentary in 08'. He got a big payout right before he passed on writing royalties and was house hunting with Jodi in Malibu area on that last break before the 2nd leg of the diary tour started. Up till then he hadn't got it and was pissed off about having to pay for the black jackson Grover dropped off at the Diary rehearsals. He yelled at Sharon to pay Grover for the guitar.
Very interesting, thanks!
one of the guys who worked on the doc is in the legacy group I run I asked him
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Who Anthony.. ? I thought you knew everything.. No need to run to a fb group.. you make no sense. quit acting like you are the greatest Randy fan.. lol I am privy to things you have no idea of.. plus i did see Randy live. LOL
@jimbo0411 I'm just offered to help not sure the attitude. I'm not acting like I'm some great fan ..I have no idea who you are but I offered to ask somebody. I'm learning new stuff everyday. I guarantee. I was too young to see Him live...not sure what the issue is. Sorry if you got insecure about something I said
I'm just trying to help. I'm the reason the holy Grail conversation even got a second tease of life whoever you are. But apparently you know who I am.
@@jimbo0411 so you know that zakk is in fact Randy I'm guessing.....
Randy Rhoads was worth far more than what he got. I was surprised that Jake Lee got so little as well. They really must have loved performing as the money simply wasn't there. All the members of his band were great musicians and should have been recognised as such.
lol, little randy barely deserved 100 bucks ! so over rated.. lol just a hired hand, never could cut it in his own band, had to bail and join an already established act as a hired hand...lolol
@@TANTRUMGASM I don't think he was over rated. I wish I could play like that.
Ozzy would be nobody without people like Tony and Randy
correct he is a fraud
Not true, just a flat out lie.
@@TurboGTO288 Your opinion.. Not mine
@paisteplayer1040 You are just jealous of Ozzy and his legendary success. 2 albums with Randy and still went on to become a rock god after Randy passed, without Tony. Ozzy just got better and better as he went on while Black Sabbath took a back seat to Ozzy's solo career after they booted him ... your opinion is truly the minority and proven to be totally wrong through Ozzy's history.
@@TurboGTO288 You are overlooking one simple fact....What songs would Ozzy be know for without Tony, Randy Jake , Zack.. Oh do tell.
From what I understand, Bob was writing lyrics for ozzy for decades...
Who knew?
@@robertneville9606 I was surprised, after all you know, but it was employment, but I couldn't imagine what the goos paid him, probably not much...but I guess , Randy isn't 5he only one who could have gotten the job done, he is just the one that did...
Jake E Lee was miserable the entire time with Ozzy. Especially after seeing his old friends in Ratt become millionaires after touring Out of the Cellar. Apparently each member of Ratt got a $1.2-1.5 million dollar pay day for that tour. Big money in 1984.
Ratt deserved every penny they earned with all them hits
Gr8 video interesting tidbits, Randy was a incredible musician.
Many thanks!
This was a better world with Randy in it.
lol, little randy barely deserved 100 bucks ! so over rated.. lol just a hired hand, never could cut it in his own band, had to bail and join an already established act as a hired hand...lolol
@@TANTRUMGASM Hey,check it out. It's one of those trolls...🧌
@@TANTRUMGASM cool.
Awesome stuff, great upload! Keep them coming Kar
Big thanks, much appreciated!
Ozzy would be nothing without those players
absolutely correct
In 1975, Earl Slick said David Bowie paid him $3000/week salary on tour, Randy Rhoads made $100/week? WTF???
That sounds unbelievable. 3,000 in 75 would be 18,000 a week now
Thats 'pop star' pay tho.
Sure it wasn’t $300?
@@Sups614 No. Slick turned Bowie down for a later tour. He said "$3,000 a week ain't nothin' if your heart ain't in it."
@@stephenwallen4942 Bowie should have kept him hungry ;)
This channel rules!!🤘 The stories are great and the story telling is even greater! Big thanks buddy!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥💪🤘👏👏
Many thanks, great pleasure to hear this!!
Another excellent video of that whole mess Randy and the guys went through. Thanks and ☮️. 🇺🇸🎸
Thanks so much Joe Mars, great pleasure!
Seen both blizzard of oz n mad man tour Norman Oklahoma, I remember watching Randy Rhodes shredding I don't know solo, WOW I knew he was greatness, I was hooked
This should be brought up on national television as the “Osbourne’s” love to air their dirty laundry.
the Osbournes revisionist history
It won't happen. The media largely protects people like the Osbournes.
It is so shocking to me that Randy Rhodes resurrected Ozzy Osbournes career and then his mom had to sue him to get what they owed him. Shame on Ozzy Osbourne and Sharon!
the lawsuit of the Osbournes by the Rhoads family is speculation....a lot of people say it happened. I have never seen evidence of it happening but it would not surprise anyone
Yes but Bob Daisley insists that Randy didn't do it alone. It was the chemistry of four of them. Ozzy was non-productive and continuously drunk. Randy, Lee and Bob Daisley supported Ozzy to get him back on his feet. Quiet Riot with Randy couldn't get a recording contract which goes to show that Randy wasn't the 'cavalry' alone, or maybe they would've been signed on the strength of Randy alone. Ozzy was 'the name' with the following that came from BLACK SABBATH and that helped them a lot, which is the reason they accepted a lesser royalty rate to Ozzy, but never got paid anyway. Randy was a fantastic guitarist with great song ideas and Ozzy had the 'trade mark' voice. Randy and Bob put most of the first album together musically and Ozzy's vocal melodies were creative and important. The lyrics are equally important to the whole thing as are the drum and bass parts.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 Yep.
My take on it is that the Blizzard of Ozz project was such a (likely unexpected) creative and financial success that they decided stick with that formula for every subsequent album and just punched in new metal musicians as they went along that they felt could write to this formula. Ozzy is essentially a drunken, affable cartoon character with stage presence who says endearingly goofy things in interviews and on reality TV. And that's why he's a star and the musicians propping him up are not. In fact, Ozzy's star charisma and his prior metal cred with Sabbath is largely what the Ozzy machine is built around.
@@karsguitarchannel6088well also Ozzy stole Jake E Lee's guitar ideas.
@@karsguitarchannel6088 am not saying Ozzy doesn't have star power. Obviously I am influenced by him, as are millions of singers and artists. I think Randy really didn't reach his Pinnacle until Blizzard of Ozz. The reason why quiet riot didn't get signed is because at that point in time he was not standing out among the many van Halen clones. Ozzy gave him free reign artistically and he quickly blossomed into a virtuoso
The Osbournes ripped musicians off constantly
That is how the rich get richer!
Many of the big bands owed money to their record labels unil they got a few albums under the belt. Uneducated people read about these performers net worth and think they have 100 million in the bank. It's just not true. The only problem I have with the Ozzy and Sharon situation is that all those great players like Randy wrote all the music and never got royalties.
David,
You are correct.
Both Joe Elliot and Slash basically tell the same story.
Slash thought, after Appetite for Destruction finally took off in late 1988 world wide the millions would simply flow in.
Someone put him straight.
Simply put, if your album doesn't sell 4 million units in the US you owe your record company.
Slash recieved $US500k cheque in February 1989.
Duff said when Appetite kept selling the cheques became quarterly, and yes, that was after 1989.
Starter Bands
The instruments, record studio, production, mixes and very costly marketing and distribution costs a fortune.
The 4 million mark was true.
On the 40th Anniversary of Def Leppards - Hysteria- Joe Elliot told a similar story.
Elliot said ' we were told that after 3 months after its release that Hysteria was a flop . . . and a costly one. '
Leppard owed Polygram
$ US 3 million.
But then . . .
For some unknown reason Pour Some Sugar on Me took off.
Hysteria began really selling and selling, selling and selling 12 × Platinum 17 months after its release.
Elliot said " we went from looking like we owed the record company $US 3 million to making millions as Hysteria exploded worldwide and the singles also sold as well as sell out concerts across the globe.
Elliot further said and as Slash also found out, the individual band members don't get the large cheques until 2 years after the money starts to generate.
Bands who only had 2 × Platinum sellers mostly become reliant on long tours for sustainable income.
E.g. KISS in the 80's
Yes, heard many similar stories like Van Halen owing their record company after their first record. Vinnie Vincent not joining Kiss because of how little they paid him. Trent Reznor not paying his band that much. I guess they are also a business and try to keep as much as they can for themselves.
@Sups614
The so called " Alternative bands" were the worst.
Cobain
Dave Grohl said:
Once Kurt realised how much we'd be making, he instantly demanded a song writings royalties restructure.
Cobain did write most of the lyrics .
Grohl added that Cobain turned into a nasty greedy c # n t once the huge cheques began in late 1992.
E.g for every million generated Gohl & the two others received about $150k !
Cobain's estate was worth
$US 100 million a decade after his death.
Billy Corgan
James & Darcy had no idea about copyright royalties. Morgan deliberately hid it from them.
Corgan bought a Ferrari in '96 for cash whilst Darcy and James struggled to pay their rent aftet the Smashing Pumpkins bubble burst and the touring money 💰 ended.
D'arcy and James demanded their 'fair cut' and Corgan who was still raking it in, said in 1996 he would from 'now on. '
Only the first three albums sold millions where D'arcy & James received NO royalties.
James refers to Corgan as a low lying c#nt and slime bag. Both D'arcy and James found our that even after lawyers advised Billy that he should at least offer James &,D'arcy 5 per cent collectively, he refused and made out they were so drug addled that they would overdose and had no idea about business.
How low can you get ?
@@FrostedSeagull Very interesting, thank you
Great video. So much trickery. And Sharon changing Randy’s contract after he was killed? And Mrs. Rhoads having to sue the O’s? Wow. No limits to what they would do. Yet, no Blizzard of Ozz band, no Ozzy. And all of the other musicians who were taken advantage of and hosed like Bob, Lee, Jake, Carmine… Even Tommy Aldridge got hosed out of a writing credit on Spiders according to Bob.
if that is true, and we do not know that though there is no reason not to believe Bob,,is really low.
The last Ozzy album I bought was The Ultimate Sin. I never got into Zakk Wylde and his overused squeal. I'm not a fan of Ozzy. I'm a fan of Randy and Jake. Ozzy does indeed worship the devil. Because he's married to her. Rumor has it that there is pro shot video of concerts with Randy but Sharon won't release any of it because "it will cost too much money to convert it to digital". Really? People convert 8mm home movies to digital all the time without going broke. She just doesn't want to have to pay out royalties. Maybe once Ozzy and Sharon are gone, Jack will do the right thing and release those concerts.
Too bad someone couldn’t get those videos somehow?
That is exactly how I evaluated Oz Guitar players. Zack is a good guitar player but uses the sequels so much it gets annoying listening to a song he played guitar on. Good points you make. I will take it one step further. Jake was on equal footing with Randy. Oz was so lucky he came along as he was perfect for that time period. The Bark at the moon solo is legendary. I been playing for many years and still mess that one up.
I love this channel. The guy who narrates has the perfect voice for these stories.
Thank you, great pleasure to hear this!!
As always a great informative well researched video; thanks for the post. There's two types of people; there are those who at least make some sort of attempt each day to live by The Golden Rule, and there are those who *don't.* After decades on this planet i'm astonished HOW MANY 'money robots' there are out there -- they have no soul or spirit, they're meaning, definition, and purpose in this life is money. Yes I love money like everyone else, but I learned when I was a teenager when you steal a dollar it will cost you seven dollars in karma or what you sow you shall reap. Now do the math when you steal 100k and so on...
I wish you were right about karma. If it was truly a force, the real MF'ers in this world be getting hit by lightning on a daily basis....
Thank you very much!
What sucks worse is when these money robots are your own family and cheat you , then lie to your face and twist facts. Reptilian bloodline
The entertainment industry as a whole has always been that way.
Sharon set new lows forging a dead man's contract ?
Sharon ripped everyone in the band
Thanks for making this interesting and informative video
Thank you so much Charlie Ryan!!!
A photographer who hung out at a rock bar we used to go to during the mid 80's did a photo shoot for ozzy and Sharon wouldn't pay up. I think that was the first time I became aware of her. Sad to think that Randy never got paid for the incredible music he wrote.
Interesting Rock History , Thanks for your Excellent Work on this Kar !! ✌️
Big thanks Scott, great to see you!!
At least Randy got to poke Sharon a few times while Ozzy was passed out.
a hate poke....
That's what SHE says..
Why would randy bang that when he could have any hottie from the audience?
She was fat...300lbs back then
That’s factual, I still remember listening to Ozzy give an interview back in the early 80s to a radio show called “Metal Shop” and admitting it.
You should make a video about how Lou Gramm got screwed by Mick Jones the same way, except for being conviently killed in a plane crash...
Randy was just as responsible for the success of Ozzy's solo career as Ozzy himself!
Ozzy's second band too Blizzard of ozz with Randy and bob Ozzy is begging back into sabbath
Sharon also had Aldridge and Sarzo re-record the Blizzard of Oz tracks so that is why Daisley and Kerslake never received their performance pay.
No, Robert Trujillo and Mike Borden. Rudy and Tommy would never have agreed to that. This was in 2002.
Great presentation! Thanks.
Big thanks, much appreciated!
1983 I was a classical guitar teacher and met Vivian Campbell and couldn't believe I was making 6x than he was making. I was buying apple stock at the time lol
ya but in 1983 he had just joined the Dio band and they had only released one album
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle he said Dio got 50k a gig and he got $400, it was fascinating that he talked about it. He said, you go do the gig and I'll go to your house and have your chicken fried steak. Really cool guy!
It seems Randy and those other musicians far outshone the trash mafia they had the misfortune to get ripped off by.
Very informative and entertaining. Thank you!
My first job in 1985 after HS paid 3.40 hr, that was minimum wage then where I lived. so yeah 300 a week back then was decent money especially if all your food and what not is being taken care of and that isn't coming out of your check.
well, it's all in how ya look at it. $300 a week divided by 5 days is $60 divided by 8hrs a day is 7.50 an Hr. That was probably Factory pay, back in the day or a little more. He had to stay on the road touring miserably due to a contract & cheated out of royalties and then Died. Yeah, I bet it wasn't what he dreamed of, but he made incredible music that will last forever.
@bumblbesss
KISS which on effect was only Paul and Gene by 1983 offered Vinny Vincent $500 per week.
Minimum wage was $3.15 then.
Wrong..........!
Good points and true but… you were likely doing minimum wage work where Randy was doing maximum schredding and allowing Ozzy to ascend (and the whole organization). By those measures, he was woefully underpaid.
I got to meet Randy backstage at an outdoor concert back in 81. After thier set, they took some group photos till Sharon started to bitch at the photographers and than they had split up. Ozzy, Sharon and thier entourage found a patio table while Rudy, Tommy went back to their trailer. Randy was left alone and was sitiing in a road case having a smoke and sipping a strawberry daiquiri out of a plastic cup. It didn't look like Randy and Ozzy were buddy buddy,
what show?> their real tension started in February when he told them he wanted to leave and refused to do a Double live album with Sabbath covers, and half Blizzard of ozz songs.
Ozzy has romanticized the relationship and of course now he is changing his tune saying Tony is the greatest., he is a fraud
After Sharon fired Lee and Bob, Randy made it known he was leaving the band after the tour.
sharon also offered Randy a management fee before they were fired but he turned it down because he did not think he should be paid more than anyone else in the band
Wow the Osborne are blimey grimey people. I'll never buy anything ozzy again
truly a shame for all the great artists they ripped off
In many cases piracy is the better moral option.
What a mess of legal battles, these ozzy stories are always fascinating.
Very interesting about the DIO band about the salary of the band members.
Hopefully it will make fans that put Dio on a pedestal as "such a nice guy" see that wasn't quite the way it was.
@@incarnate6779 In a way, RJD and his wife had no difference with Ozzy and Sharon. Essentially, they are both personal band which mainly make money for their own.
Like it or not..... Sharon's job was to manage OZZY and make him as much money as possible. Best manager you could ever hope to have.
Next to Peter Grant
True
And the wages of sin are death
One of the first problems, was during the Blizzard of Ozz European tour, Ozzy sometimes performed two shows at the same venue. Daisley & Kerslake wanted double the pay.
Great video thank you
Big thanks, much appreciated!
Sabbath had a cocaine budget for 75,000 dollars a year. They did get screwed but they were blowing money like it didn't exist.
should've started the 1 Heineken cap rule like Fleetwood had before shows
It's worth it to me I said that I never wanted money just the chance to play with a band and make friends with musicians and slowly make my way in the business. I suck at making friends 😢
By inflation, $100 in 1979 was equivalent to $431. In 1982 , $100 was equivalent to about $331
Great video and context
Awesome episode
Many thanks Keni, great to see you!
Judas Priest released their “British Steel” album in April, 1980. Ozzy released “Blizzard of Oz” in September, 1980. If he had titled that album, “British Scum,” he could have capitalized on the success of the former. Truly, a missed opportunity.
Why do you think Randy said he wanted to go back to school and study Classical lol
He was a Guitar teacher at 8 bucks a half hour I paid in 1979 I am sure he made great money Randy bought all those custom guitars teaching not on Ozzy or Sharon’s salary .
A comment below reminded me that I tried auditioning for Ozzy when he had an open call for guitarists and Zakk got the gig. If I knew what I know now I would have never of tried. I never got the audition (I gave them my demo and photo's) but I have to say it went to the better man. Zakk was a total Black Sabbath fan.
I met and talked to another guy who tried out and lost it to Zakk, Chris Impelletteri
@@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle Interesting. Another guitarists that smokes me, LOL.
@@ShawnStaplesFreeGuitarLessons met Chris at a radio expo where I ended up finding the Randy Rhoads after hours tape in 1988, the much coveted video. I asked Chris about Zakk, and he said we would like him, he 's good. I asked him if he were as good as Randy Rhoads and he looked at me and said: is anyone as good as him
Ozzy may have been the star, but it was largely off the backs of everyone he played with including Sabbath. Randy changed the game. He was one of those once in a lifetime guitarists like Jimmy Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Eddie Van Halen, Tony Iommi. It is really sad that Ozzy made millions off those two albums and Randy, Rudy and Tommy made squat. Take those three out of the equation at that place in time, Ozzy would have been another washed up has been. That band is what revived Ozzy's career and put him in a place financially where him and Sharon were able to call the shots. Even the Record execs were done with him and all his BS he did from all the drugs.
Sad when you look at the Rhoads family music school and everything they have. It is all run down and dated because they don't have a lot of money.
Randy was one of my favorites. I seen him play a couple weeks before the crash and we couldn't wait to see him again. Still makes me shake my head to this day every time I think about his loss and how it occurred.
Randy probably made more as a guitar teacher than with Ozzy.
Wow, really great Kar.
Big thanks Shawn, great to see you!
Wait a minute, Randy's siblings have said the Osbournes have taken care of their mother over the years.
A small price.
To pay after ripping hiA small price.
To pay after ripping them off for tens of millions.........!
I distinctly remember reading the interview when Jake said he made $100 a week when it was printed. Dang.
Kar, you're the best
Many thanks, I appreciate!
No, Bob daisley worked with Vai to do a side project called X-Ray, it was not going to be Ozzmosis.
You forgot to mention Bob helped write and do all lyrics for No Rest for the Wicked.
He was asked to do lyrics for No More Tears , and he said fine but he wanted a royalty so they asked Lemmy to help out. They screwed Bob over.
In 2012 when the Osbournes were releasing the Box set of the 30th anniversary, Sharon reached out to Bob to acquire the Holy Grail tapes. Bob wanted a flat sum and royalties. Sharon refused to give the royalty. The reason is because the Osbournes only want those holy grail tapes if they can own the IP to edit Bob out. the Holy Grail recording sessions will show ozzy was not around on 90% of the Diary of a Madman recording sessions. This is suppoedly what Andrew Klein said in an interview since he heard those recording sessions, he also verifies that the quality is perfectly fine
Bob Daisley said that in 1994 he and Steve Vai worked for the next Ozzy album which came out as 'Ozzmosis' in 1995. Steve Vai said he wrote a few songs for Ozzy and the only song which remained on the album was "My Little Man" but Zakk Wylde played it his own way on the record. Vai said that he recorded stuff that was too heavy for the record company and they told Ozzy to get rid off Steve Vai.
For what it's worth: My guitar teacher in 1988 auditioned for Ozzy, and was in contention for the gig. Jake spoke to him, as well as others who were in the running, and told them his horror stories. No contract to start, with the "trust us" speech, being cut out of writing credits, Sharon's personality, having to work with a drunk, etc. guitarists were backing out left and right. It was his opinion that he started to look for, and found a guitarist, Zakk, on the east coast far from Hollywoood, as there was a better chance of finding talent that wouldn't be told the real deal of working for Ozzy.
I think a lot of people in the industry knew of the Osbournes and their lowlife proclivities but it was still a coveted job, people wanting to get a chance to launch their careers and also get better by playing Randy's stuff.
Jake luckily got some leverage for Ultimate Sin. But it is pathetic to force a musician to sign over stuff because he is young guy with no money,,absolutely horrible,
I love Jake's integrity refusing offers to go back to offer unless they credited him on Bark at the Moon, not even seeking retroactive payment
These posts are why I use Internet thanks brother
Ozzy owed Jet Records two more records (in order to get out of his contract). Sharon decided to have Ozzy release a double live album, which in those days qualified as two records.
and ripped off Black Sabbath too.What a witch bitch.
Godless rock stars ruled by greed and ego.
Imagine if Randy never died. I wouldve loved to see a Randy Rhoads solo band
we all would or at least him playing with a much classier singer
I don't think Ozzy had any say in anything. Looking back, Daisley, Randy, and Lee wrote the hits and Ozzy was just a transport vehicle for the music to play on airwaves. But nothing could happen unless Don Arden took well over 75%. In the music business, the artists NEVER make anywhere near what the business gets.
he absolutely did, then you are suggesting he is the biggest mangina cuck to walk this earth. Any man who lets his wife run amok like that and does not have any say is a gutless coward and cuck. That is even worse than believing he signed off on everything which he did, Jake E Lee said he knew he was getting screwed over. Ozzy's quote in the press release about re-recording the two masterpiece albums. Randy, Bob and Lee wrote the albums that Blizzard of ozz recorded.
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Let's be real here....Ozzy would have never been anything without being part of Black Sabbath. There are many reasons for this, but the obvious is Tony Iomi. He had the riffs that changed metal. And of course the song writers who were NOT named Ozzy. He would have never even made it out of Aston, Birmingham, England
Yes that's what Bob Daisey says, "Ozzy had been fired from BLACK SABBATH for being non-productive and continuously drunk and consequently had earned himself a bad reputation. Randy, Lee and I supported Ozzy to get him back on his feet. I know QUIET RIOT, Randy's L.A. band, couldn't get a recording contract which goes to show that Randy wasn't the 'cavalry' alone, or maybe they would've been signed on the strength of Randy alone. Ozzy was 'the name' with the following that came from BLACK SABBATH and that helped us a lot, which is the reason we accepted a lesser royalty rate to Ozzy, but never got paid anyway. Randy was a fantastic guitarist with great song ideas and Ozzy had the 'trade mark' voice. He wasn't/isn't a great singer but he was original with a recognisable voice. Randy and I put most of the first album together musically and Ozzy's vocal melodies were creative and important. I think the lyrics are equally important to the whole thing as are the drum and bass parts."
@@karsguitarchannel6088 as for Quiet Riot, I think it’s fair to say that Kevin DeBrow was the guy making all of the musical and song decisions. He tried everything. And Randy was just developing as a writer himself. I don’t recall anything by Quiet Riot resembling his classical style in those early days. DeBrow was just looking for a hit to be signed.
All managers have doctors and lawyers names
Bob and Lee's parts were re-recorded by Bordin and Trujillo 20yrs ago or so in order to erase their contribution, i mean how low can you go..
you could forge the contract of a dead man to rip off his family not sure which is worse both are horrible
SHARON IS A BEAST, CON JON JOB
Was randy murdered? Did the Osborne and Arden benefit from Randy’s death?
How do ya think Ozzy is still kickin? Stolen years of Rhodes
Tip Of The Day: Don't fly with a pilot who's high on cocaine.
I've often thought that
This is a very good example of how some people do not get bad karma...... And conversely, Randy got something ....the shaft... wow............!
She got cancer and he is parkinsons...
Randy was a horrible accident
Ozzy only had 2 good albums after sabbath and that was" Blizzard of Oz" and "Diary of a Madman" , due to the band members really after that he could never come to par those albums.
The Osbournes are notorious for not paying their musicians jack shit. They paid Zakk very little as well. It's pretty messed up! It's great exposure to be Ozzy's guitarist, but terrible pay. I understand why Nuno turned the gig down.
The Osbournes really are NOT good people! Ask George Lynch about how he was treated by them.
I always heard that Dolores Rhoads settled with the Osbournes in the early ‘90s for ~$300,000, turning over Randy’s image and songwriting rights.
Ozzy & Sharon never talk or promote anybody else besides Randy because they are “Randy”. There cannot be a Randy documentary without their involvement.
Believe half of what you hear perhaps?
It's all about the rights & royalties,
Ozzy made a career off the work of talented musicians and gave them nothing.
Saw Randy With Ozzy Twice! He Was Great!
Ozzy was on a shoestring budget at this time. Remember folks Randy was only with Ozzy for 2 years. He didnt get a chance too rake in the enormous $$$$ that he generated quite sadly. In 1981 $100 a day was the buying power of $300- $400 today. Sharon's father Don kept the profits and gave very little to Sharon and Ozzy when he was the management. Thats where Sharon got her brutal business practices from. Don was Ruthless with bottom paying his talent. Sharon followed in his footsteps and ran off mucho talent with her strong arm negotiations. In her defense without her Ozzy likely lives in an Alley in Derby somewhere pan handling for dope money.
I agree. Sharon learned from her father, in her defense when you are playing with wolves, you learn to bite. I don't condone those practices but then I was never in that business. It all comes down to the type of business you are in and what you need to do to make it a success. It's my belief that Ozzy and Randy were best friends. Even today when talking about Randy, Ozzie tears up. I doubt he even knew what Sharon was doing because he was always lit, he preferred the fun side of the business. I am not making excuses, I'm just saying, these things happen all the time in every big business so no one should be shocked. I think Sharon did what she felt she had to, she played a man's game and won. A lot of people benefitted from that. You also right about making the big bucks. AC/DC did't start pulling in the big bucks until Back in Black and they had been touring for around 5 yrs to that point. You gotta pay your dues if you want to play the blues 😁😁
I only agree with Ozzys part in all of this back then. But everything can be negotiated. Just look at the writers' strike in hollywood. Everyone learned how crooked the business was. People can always choose to be grateful and appreciative of the most valuable people around them. Sharon chose to underappreciate Rhoads- a valuable and key asset. I dont mind if she screwed road crews, drivers, catering, etc but she should have taken cared of someone important as Randy- its a no brainer!!!!
If you listen carefully, it was $100 per week, not $100 per day.
"Gave very little to Sharon and Ozzy"
Lol! You actually believe that crap. Like Donny would keep his baby hag Sharon on a string. Ozzy maybe, but not Sharon, she knew exactly what she was doing and had a pile of family money to operate and, most importantly, fall back on.
Wow! Thanks for pointing that out! Thnx!🤘
That’s why I don’t feel any sympathy for ozzy or Sharon when something tragic happens to them. Cosmic justice at work.
Roughly $430 a week today
way off, 300 in 1980 dollars is over a grand now.
@@user-jq4fz6co8b I meant $100
@@user-jq4fz6co8bI think he means $100 a week.
No you know why I hate Ozzy personally. He screwed everyone and let his harpy do his dirty work for him.
what is reported is not correct, Randy was offered a management fee and royalties, There is a reason he used his first big check of 5K to buy a classical guitar.
The truth is, Ozzy is greatly loved as an artist, but his and Sharron's alleged fleecing of the talent will end up being better known than anything else they ever did in the end. It's getting there already, but the damn will beak. It's worth a Netflix doco for starters.
yes by low standard people who lack for morals and standards. I could never love a POS lowlife like that. I like the music, love the music.
Sharon AND Ozzy
They paid him in claps.
$11 for an Ozzy ticket in a sub 10,000 seat venue in 1982. It's not often I think it'd be nice to go back, but damn.
Minimum wage was $3.25 per hour.
That's when they made money on records. I could afford concerts in high school, but I can't now.
I saw kiss in 1984, The ticket was $11.
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