Howard Ashman's Lost Aladdin | Dreamsounds
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My video on why many Disney songs sound so queer: • Why Many Disney Songs ...
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Howard Ashman's Aladdin treatment is available at the Library of Congress: bit.ly/3k39Dw6
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VIDEO AND PHOTO SOURCES (IN ORDER OF APPEARANCE):
Walt Disney Studios, "Aladdin (2019)": movies.disney.com/aladdin-2019
"Howard Ashman on the set of “Little Shop of Horrors”: / 0*jokkumvdqngy5hyw.png
Walt Disney Studios, "The Little Mermaid": movies.disney.com/the-little-...
Andrew Lang, "Aladdin": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aladdin...
Michael Mallory, "John and Ron Mention ‘The Unmentionable’": www.animationmagazine.net/top...
D23, "Howard Ashman": d23.com/walt-disney-legend/ho...
Walt Disney Studios, "Beauty and the Beast": movies.disney.com/beauty-and-...
slimz, "Aladdin Proud Of Your Boy Storyboards": • Aladdin Proud Of Your ...
GalacticChicken, "Humiliate The Boy - Deleted Song From 'Aladdin'": • Humiliate The Boy - De...
Timmy Barr, "Raising the Hillcrest San Diego LGBT Pride flag 7 20 2012": commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
mebila, "4th Delhi Queer Pride (27-Nov-2011)": commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
Sylvester Sylvester, "Gay Pride 2009": commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
Ciarán Ó Beacháin, "Pink Bloc Seattle Pride": commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
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MUSIC USED:
Jose Benjamin Escobar, "Deux Poemes Op. 32" by Alexander Scriabin:
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"It's Fun to Be Free - 1970s Jetplane Version": • World of Motion - It's...
Jose Benjamin Escobar, "Frank Mason's Piano":
josebenjamin.bandcamp.com/tra...
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OTHER SOURCES:
"Film Treatments". Lights Film School. Archived from the original on March 6, 2010. Retrieved August 2nd, 2020.
Howardashman.com. “Aladdin.” Howard Ashman: Part of His World, Howardashman.com, 31 Jan. 2018, www.howardashman.com/howards-work/aladdin.
Shaheen, Jack. “ALADDIN ANIMATED RACISM.” Cinéaste, vol. 20, no. 1, 1993, pp. 49-49. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/41687300. Accessed 3 Aug. 2020.
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Didn't get to reply to your response because it was in "top comment" mode and once again almighty CZcams I guess decided that the channel creator writing/replying isn't "top" content. Whaaa?
Oh do you happen to have the sources for the different Pride events? I just think it would be neat info for you to include in the description...
@@searchingfororion I updated the description with them during the premiere!
@@DreamsoundsVideo I thought that was an amazing addition to the video! Not to mention the experience of seeing the *global* community with your rendition - heartmelting.💜💜💜
Howard Ashman made the Disney musical what it is, I can't even imagine the art he would have made had he lived.
We probably wouldnt be left with crappy live actions thats for sure
Howard Ashman is the one who's really responsible for the Disney Renaissance
@@mariskelley8831 hey dont forget alan menken. The little mermaid is literally his first score yet surprisingly they got an oscar from it
Proud Of Your Boy will always have a special place in my heart.
Yes, Adam Jacobs is too pure for this world
this is really dumb, but ever since i heard there would be a live action remake of aladdin, i really hoped this song would be kept and the character of the mother would be brought back (i knew of the song because i used to own the aladdin dvd, which had it as a special feature). i think it would have certainly elevated the new movie and made aladdin himself a much more interesting and relatable character.
also this is neither here nor there but "speechless" is a boring song.
I agree wholeheartedly. I think "Proud of Your Boy" would've easily be a standout song for the movie. I like the "One Jump Ahead" reprise, but it is far less pronounced than the former
@@DreamsoundsVideo I had the strangest mental image of a cut scene from the third movie with Aladdin singing this at his mother's grave before meeting Khassim. I know it'd never work, especially with Khaseem explicitly NOT being perfect due to the film's 'broken pedestal' narrative, but it might have been interesting to see, even in the extremely low-budget DIsneyToons animation.
Speechless is the most redundant song ever. As someone who is a Middle-Eastern woman (Which is kind of why I thumbs up to anything shitting on the remake for reasons), I always wonder why to include this song as a vindication against sexism to make it clear compared to movies where sexism is more present/shunning to the female protagonist and is one of the plot points like Beauty and the Beast. I think if Aladdin was remade with cultural/setting references changed but everything else staying the same the song speechless would not be in there. I think if he kept Proud of Your Boy it would be the films "Go the Distance" and could still be contained in the plot. Even though I have not liked a remake and believe they should stop trying to correct things and learn from mistakes so they could focus on not taking 6 years to produce sub-par movie that was embarrassing to put under the Disney title (frozen 2 and the ralph sequel not even just bc they are sequels but bc vhs one year made sequels are all better than either 2 tbh).
@@vannakinder352 i had never even considered it -like, neither belle nor ariel (not even tiana) have a song dedicated to them voicing just how much they hate sexism and being subjected to it. and adding the extremely weird "disappearing" effect that makes no sense... its really a waste of time that could be used to actually develop jasmine's character.
a bit off topic, but im just a bit surprised that Nowadays i can name three directors from the middle east working in big blockbuster movies that i think could have done an amazing job if given the chance to direct their own version of aladdin, with huge budgets and all, and as far as ive heard none were even considered. haifaa al-mansour having directed Mary Shelley, a historical biopic; anna lily amirpour, who is a bit smaller in scale (she directed that cannibal movie a few years back, i wonder if shes still working after that) but who surely could make a musical shine; and marjane satrapi, who i just watched her marie curie biopic which i found imaginative and pretty original at times. none of these choices would be weider than hiring goddamn guy ritchie, who had never directed a musical in his life.
"I'll do my best, what else can I do,
Since I was not born perfect like dad or you"
that hits hard
Yeah, its such a queer line too. Obvs i mean its how we view things before we come to understand ourselves and accept ourselves in spite of what society tries to teach us.
We want nothin more than to have been born perfect and not have to struggle as much as we do for simply bein unable to make those we love proud of us... Simply for who we arent.
How cool would’ve been if the remake was based on Ashman’s treatment? Not only would it be a different take on the story but it would be a sweet tribute to Howard Ashman.
All. Of. This.
I have idolized Allan Menkin and howard Ashman ever since I was young, but your videos shine an entirely new light on them. I now admire Howard Ashman for his persistence through being gay through hard times, not just for his artistic vision
You should watch the documentary on him if you haven't already! It's on Disney+ and really shows you how much he had on making Disney magical. I can't admire him enough.
Such a beautiful soul. We lost countless beautiful Disney films that could have been when we lost Howard, and most of all we lost a great man.
This makes me think of the heart wrenching feeling when my fiancé’s Mom told her she wouldn’t be coming to our wedding. My Love, who was a straight A student, never really misbehaved, who used to stay up late at night praying to not be gay... And even though she and I both knew it was coming, you don’t really understand what that is like until you experience it for yourself... What I want to see from Disney moving forward is something inherently speaks to LGBT struggle, on the forefront, like Proud of Your Boy, but even more so. Even if they have to have no love interest, to get around the whole marketing in China thing, just something that speaks to the heart of individual identity and having to separate yourself from someone who may have been important in your life because of who you are. They tried to do that with Elsa but it doesn’t really work in the way I’m talking about. I want something that is written to resonate with the pain and strength of the choices you find yourself forced to make in the face of truly hateful adversity. And then, something that gives young LGBT+ kids hope for found family, and a better future for them. A better future for all LGBT+ people. But I doubt we’ll ever get it. And considering that, I’m glad that you and other people can find snippets of those sentiments throughout Disney history.
Pixar has a short called out but it has a happy ending. The character did struggle with fear and anxiety for most of the short though. Still I know it doesn't fit what you are looking for.
Disney has never made anything that's made for any specific people. That's not what they do. They make movies about being human.
Honestly I wish they had kept Aladdin as a teenager, it makes his relationship with Jasmine much less questionable.
what’s questionable? she’s 16 and he’s... wow! He’s only 33!
"your favorite might be a MAP"
A A he’s just a 33 year old kid
A A idk if he is 33 in the original, he’s probably like 22 though? but I was referencing starkid’s Twisted which has a song abt this
If you look carefully in some parts of Friend Like Me you can still see the younger 15 year old version of Aladdin.
Around when I first realized that I was bisexual, I found the Broadway version of Proud of Your Boy and instantly related to it. Knowing that other LGBTQ people relate to it as well makes me incredibly happy.
Proud of Your Boy is such a sweet song, I wish it made the cut in the final film. Personally I think Aladdin having a mother would have given his character more of a motivation to become a prince as a way to make his mom proud, rather than just a way to marry jasmine.
I quite enjoy that you record your own versions of songs sometimes. It's a great way to prevent content ID from demonetizing your video, and we get the bonus of hearing you instill the emotions you describe into the song itself.
Being nonbinary myself, I very much mirror your feelings about this song now that I've heard why you feel this way.
I grew up listening to CD set called the Magic Behind The Music as I fell asleep literally every night. The demo tracks for Aladdin are as much a part of my childhood as the movie it's self. This was an incredibly satisfying video and much appreciated. So glad I found you on here!
proud of your boy is by far my favorite disney song. it’s always meant so much to me especially discovering it shortly after coming to terms with my sexuality. i’ve always been sad it was taken out of the original movie but i’m so happy it was put back in the broadway version. i got the chance to see aladdin on tour in 2017/18, it was such a fun show and i cried when i finally got to see the song live
That pride montage with Proud of Your Boy over it was SO. POWERFUL. The LGBT community has always been so strong and resilient, and I admire them so much
^^^ See this folks? THIS is an *advocate* don't write them off - it's how Harvey Milk got his first taste of change.
Hat's off to you! THANK YOU.
Im an lgbtq+ teen in a conservative family... I cried so hard
@@frogmeister528 You are strong and fabulous for being true to yourself (even if for right now it can only be on the inside) and don't let ANYONE let you think otherwise.
It sucks to be a teenager. Period. Anyone who says otherwise is either lying or has completely forgotten. It does for everyone (even the "perfect" popular ones - they just hide it better).
In the meantime hold on, find your tribe, hold on to yourself, and *try* to remember that even though it feels like the longest time *ever* - eventually you'll be a "grown-up"
(/eye-roll/ I know, right? I know several teenagers who have more intelligence and common sense than people twice their age.)
Just when I think that you have topped it musically, you do one of these and just blow everything out of the water.
This was *SO* beautiful and the emotion incredible. 🥺 (Not to mention the video montage and clips you chose.) 💞🏳️🌈🌹
This actually reminded me of a cut song from the Little Mermaid. Silence is Golden. It eventually became Poor Unfortunate Souls (or was actually part of Poor Unfortunate Souls, I can't remember). But just hearing Howard Ashman's demo of the song gave me chills. I so can't wait to watch the documentary, Howard.
So good news, Howard Ashmen’s original script and all of its demos are released. It’s a good read. I love addi’s character. The demo songs are linked on the lost media page, well the script is linked on the lost media Facebook.
I didn't even know who Ashman was before your videos, but now every time I watch one I fall in love with him once again.
It makes my blood boil the fact the song was adopted by the alt-right group Proud Boys. Those neanderthals try to twist the song's message to fit their toxic masculinity image. You, on the other hand, did the song's message justice even as a straight guy who supports LGBT rights. No matter what orientation we are, we all want to make our parents proud. You don't need to need to be a gun-wielding, aggressive misogynist to do it. Having compassion for others, no matter who or what they are makes you a real man in my book. I look forward to watching the Howard documentary on Disney+ this Friday.
Once I found out the documentary was on disney+ I instantly came here. watching it right now.
Edit: oh man now I'm crying.
The original version of Aladdin is how they do it in British pantos. When my sister and I watched the panto she asked me why it was so different and I said its because disney changed the original that was like the book.
I’ve always been curious why, when they make these live action remakes, they don’t use more of the Broadway songs. I was gutted when Beauty and the Beast didn’t give me “If I Can’t Love Her,” but at the same time I don’t think they would have done it justice. Ditto to Proud of Your Boy. Both of those songs, both having been made with Ashman and Menken, tear at my heart more than most of the songs that actually were in the original movies. Especially since, due to the way the instrumental tracks in the movies were used to make the Broadway musicals, they fit in more with the music we’re expecting in the movies than things like that new one they made for Jasmine.
I’ve wondered the same thing. The only thing I can think is they want the best original song nomination and they can’t do that with songs from Broadway
Would be crazy to see these songs used on a retelling of the film
proud of your boy has been in my repertoire for a while now, so getting to learn even more about the piece really helps, thank u for this!! i adore all ur work!
The ending of the video got me with teary eyes. It's unpredictable for a "disney history" youtube video, and it really drove your point home.
Wow, Proud of Your Boy hits me hard as a trans man. "Someday and soon
/I'll make you proud of your boy/Though I can't make myself taller
Or smatter or handsome or wise" ;_;
The video montage gave me shivers in the best way. And I've always been a fan of John Barrowman's cover of Proud of Your Boy
Howard Ashman's songs just hit different: the queerness, the yearning, the wording is all great
Unpopular opinion: It's a good thing that Proud of Your Boy wasn't in the live action remake.
It's an incredible song, don't get me wrong. I absolutely love it, and it's extremely powerful. However, there are two reasons I'm glad it wasn't included.
One. With all the other changes, from the immense change in Genie's character to the addition of Speechless, a 'new' song would probably make some people upset, leading to more hate to the movie and more criticism on Disney.
Two. This is the important one that I will probably get bashed over, but I'm saying it anyway. Aladdin was the diamond in the rough. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is a constant through most Disney tellings of the story. He was good because it was in his heart, not because of a motivation to make his parents proud, or anything like that. Good for the sake of being good, when the world gave him no reason to be. If his only motivation to be good was immense guilt and self-depreciation, wouldn't that change things a bit? Definitely a good person, but would he still be the diamond in the rough?
(Also, please note that I don't want to say that I am specifically against the song, or that I don't think being good to make someone proud takes away the meaning behind it. I just wanted to say this, more as something to think about and not as an actual argument.)
Proud of your boy is such an amazing song, and I’m so happy that Proud of your boy was put into the stage version. Adam Jacobs’ performance is in my opinion one is one of the best songs ever. I also was in Aladdin Jr. when I was younger and I was Iago and I got to sing Why Me, and I thought it was such a great number (I’ll also say that I sang it as written instead of down an octave) I also believe that Jasmine’s I want song: These Palace Walls was great and I think it should’ve been in the 2019 movie instead of speechless
Proud of Your Boy is so good! I was disappointed that they didn’t bring it back for the live-action remake. And I’ve always felt that Jasmine’s new song was more ‘pop’ than ‘Disney musical’, I like it on its own but it feels a bit out of place...
Proud of your Boy is a beautiful song, it makes me want to cry.
5:19 I was in an Aladdin musical when I was younger, and a song called Why Me, which I presume to be the same song or a similar one, was in it!
Your covers always hit me right in the heart
Gosh I love your videos. I'm so glad I found your channel
The more i come back to Proud of Your Boy... The more i notice how its clearly **always** (not just here) queerly obvs. Like, i feel that anyone singin it is in a closet of some kind, or just has dealt with that before; like an eggy trans gal :3 or a gay boy lamentin his lack of perfection like other men achieve so easily...
"Since i wasnt born perfect like dad or you" is so queerly clearly the sentiment of a gay or trans or otherwise queer kid who just laments endlessly how hard it is to exist in a world that expects them to exist in a very specific way... To have been born perfect, or else to have perfected the imitation of havin been born perfect.
When still strugglin with the feelings of bein in the closet, regardless of how much we realise about ourselves, we are always gonna have moments where we in one way or another, lament or rage at or otherwise, feel intensely about how we werent just born perfect like the endoallo cishets who so easily manage in this world theyve constructed only for themselves
Its def extra lamentful to be sung by a trans person, regardless of assigned gender even, bcuz the notes take on an added layer of meaning... Bcuz for too many, we will nvr be able to make our parents proud of their boy... Whether thats cuz we were nvr boys or they nvr accepted us as the boys we were
We want them to be proud of that past version of ourselves who needed to hear such so desperately... But they can nvr be proud of their boys if they refuse to see them for who they rly are
Your rendition is so lovely!
It’s small but I love that you said “wazzir” the correct way
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I already know it's gonna be a great video
this was a beautiful video thank you
I'm happy some of Howard songs got in the movie
I love Humiliate the Boy but Im not surprised it was cut, it’s a much much darker version of the Prince Ali reprise in the final release I believe its the last song Howard Ashman wrote in the hospital before passing
High adventure slaps
This song is honestly my favorite, when I came out as trans I would listen to it and feel better
Hype!!!
How do you get me to cry at the end of like. All of your videos?
Do you have any references on where to read the original script structure of the 1992 movie (or the 1988 edition you mention)? I have heard much about it, but I have found the actual details to be sparse.
That montage had me tears fuck
ae que hermoso
So basically, Abbi was going to b the Betty to Jasmine’s Veronica an Aladdin’s Archie.
Every time you sing at the end of your videos I just 😍😳😭💛💛💛💛💛🌈
God loves you :3
Speechles is okay, I guess, but it kind of lacks heart and soul. They should've had Proud Of Your Boy in the remake
Unfortunate...
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Idk if it’s just me but....Pasek and Paul? Seriously? Why? I mean I know why, cause their musicals were doing very well at the time, but....I’m sorry their music is the most boring cookie cuter white bread no crust untoasted fluff I’ve ever heard.
Noemi Fierros half of their songs end with the same phrase repeating over and over again, it’s so redundant
To be fair, it was lyrics by Pasek and Paul, and music by Alan Menken.
Huh, how come only one of my comments has posted?
I kept trying to say how Abbi was originally supposed to be this tomboyish girl next door type, and that I think it could be cool to have a reimagining of this treatment of Aladdin that has her either as a boy or a trans girl, and then that figures into his arc of accepting who he is as he falls in love with his best friend. Also Aladdin is transmasc and Jasmine is a lovable bitch who gets character development
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@@DreamsoundsVideo Ohh wow, that's shitty.
@@4dultw1thj0b I agree 1000%, I'm trying to see what can be done to have that not happen
Aladdin is one of my favorite princez screw disney for being racist
but if it sounded to white then people would complaine