Beginner Backpacking Part 12 - Hanging your food (PCT style)
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2016
- I always use the PCT style hang when it comes to my food. It's good practice to hang your food every night when you are camping. It keeps large and small animals away and only takes a few seconds of work.
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This is by far the best instructional video on this topic on the Internet. No one ever shows the close-up of the knots, or the specific movements. I don’t need to see the bad going up into the tree, I need to see the knots 😂😂😂 Super helpful, thank you so much!
Thanks so much for this. you wouldn't believe how long I searched to find a video that explained everything in detail. This is great for a beginner like me!
Another outstanding video for we beginners. You clearly explained each step of the process of hanging food out of the reach of forest critters, without talking down to your audience. Much appreciated!
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is the best demonstration and explanation of the PCT method I've seen. Also like the little trick at the end showing how he wraps up his line to keep it from getting tangled, jumbled up.
Glad it was helpful!
I've been using the PCT style for a while and there are two things that can go wrong if you're not careful: if the bag isn't heavy enough it might not want to come back down. This happened to me when it rained overnight and the branch got wet. The cord didn't slide as freely after that. To be safe, put a rock in the bag or add another piece of gear to the carabiner. Also, if the stick is too long or if it's not centered properly it can get hooked onto the bag making it a lot harder to pull the stick back down to release it.
joeshmoe1962 yup. Me and a buddy had to hang on the line stuck on a branch until it broke when the rope got tangled. We were kinda worried we were going to be without food for a couple days.
I learned this the hard way too.
Thanks again for taking the time to make these videos man. I know time is valuable and it takes a lot prep time to make these. You're definitely helping people out, thank you!
I always like to go back and look at your past videos. Dah never thought about hooking my loop of my finger while wrapping my hank of cord. Take Care
Very good demonstration!
GREAT instructional video. Thank you!
You do a great job of demonstrating and explaining everything! Thanks for making these videos. 😁👍
Thanks so much! I've been tying up my bag wrong. It's nice of you to take your time to make such a comprehensive list to help all of us beginners :D
Glad I could help. Thanks for watching!
Genius! Love it, man. Thanks.
Man,,,I'm 45 and have been backpacking since I was a child and I STILL learn cool little tricks from you. Good video!
PCT = Pretty Cool Trick
Thanks for the step by step instructions. Learning how to hang my food bag in the PCT style has alway been intimidating. You make it look easy. And now I need to try it out on my own. Appreciate it.
This has been a great series so far, a lot of great info, thanks for all the tips.
Awesome videos and very helpful. Thanks a lot Jason...
Love all of your videos! Can't wait to get out there! First time backpacker here :) your videos are full of wonderful tips! Thank you!
Holy crap this was such a thorough video and very informative! Thanks Jason.
Thanks for the video. I was looking for a refresher on PCT hang and your video showed all I needed.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I cannot wait for Spring to get out there myself.
Another informative video. Thank you very much for making it. I will be in Colorado in a few weeks and am going to be able to make great use of these skills you are helping me to learn.
Last weekend myself, my GF and her teenage daughter all did a 3 day 14 mile hike at the buffalo river trail and I used this both nights. We even put our trash on the line. It took me about 5 tries to get the loop correct, as I was doing it from memory, but it's super easy now. Great tip
Great idea and easy too. Thanks for sharing. I'll use it this weekend on a camping trip.
Awesome video man, thanks for the tips!
Super helpful video. Thanks, man!
Love it! Watching latest AT vid right now and had to check this out. I’m a convert. Thanks for the demo brother.
Be well
Craig
Thanks for this! I tried this technique last week on the Superior Hiking Trail and it worked awesome. This is soooooo much easier than tying the rope around another tree.
My pleasure, glad it worked out for ya.
Very well explained. Thanks a lot!
This is awesome! Def going to give it a try on my next trip!
Great video! This dude is good at this! Thanks for the video!
Great informative video, thanks!
I know this is one of your older videos, but I really appreciated this!
Great explanation
Really great content. Thanks for these vids. Now I'm really chomping at the bit to go hiking/camping!
Thank you. Get out there!
Great video, and I will use the stick method next time I go backpacking. I did want to mention how important the quality of the line is though. I used to use any kind of line that would support the weight, but I found in Colorado, with the rough pine trees, that it would fray and break eventually and just at the wrong time. I now have climbing quality small line that has lasted many years and it holds a lot of weight. It has been worth the cost.
Nice demonstration. Small detail but I prefer to use a tent stake over a stick for the carabiner stop.
Awesome video
Great video!
Nice, I've been doing this wrong tying off the end to a tree, great tip!
Thanks
Thanks you, brilliant !
Glad it helped!
Nice technique.
Nice vid! I use it for review every year ha ha🤪
You should create a video about what to do with your poo. After going on many trips I am disheartened to see many people not following leave no trace principles or not burying it deep enough. Would be good info for beginners
I use 25 feet of amsteel for my bear bag line. My campsite will be just over 10,000 feet in Wyoming. I'll have to show my bear bag setup in the alpine zone. This should be interesting, but I'll make it work. I sure hope we get good weather to summit the mountain the next day. If not I have a loop planned with beautiful views.
Nice job demonstrating the "PCT Hang" method. Too bad almost no one does it. Unfortunately, most people follow the Park Service and NFS recommendations to backpackers or worse. I like using reflective Dyneema cord. It's thinner and plenty strong for this or just about anything else I've ever needed cord for while out hiking, but I understand that most people like paracord. There's certainly nothing wrong with paracord, and it is useful if you need something with a 550+ lb strength.
I use the Z-Line slick cord that came with my bear bag kit www.zpacks.com/accessories/bear_bag.shtml It works fine, but it seems like it is way too much length (50 ft).
Never seen that before. I always counter balanced two bags and left a loop hanging down to grab with my walking stick. No dangling lines. Loop at least 8-9 feet off ground.
marlin spike hitch is another name for the loop where the stick goes.
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Hey Jason - I finally got to go on my first backpacking overnighter, thanks to all of your videos that gave me the info I needed to do it efficiently and without making so many beginner mistakes (though there were still a few). In your hanging food video, you are basically hanging anything that might have a scent, which could be attractive to a bear, or other critter. The thought crossed my mind while I was on my adventure that my Neosporin (which I stored in cut straws), Purel, and my moisture wipes all had a slight scent to them, so I decided to add my first aid kit to my bear bag. Is that overkill?
+David Fox no that is correct. Nice love to eat the tube of Neosporin I've had it happen to me. They will go in your pack to get it too! Glad you made it out there and very happy I could help!
Another great video, thanks!!! Question, on the Black Forest Trail, over the course of the three days, where there places where you could discard your trash?
+MrJortiz215 nope. Just bring a gallon ziploc bag and pack everything out.
What about Big foot. They have thumbs.
So simple and wffecrive2
Great guide. I have about 50 feet of Zing-It. Obviously, some of the rope will lay on the ground. So, should I tie & bundle up the extra rope? Therefore, it's not laying on the ground. I could cut the extra, but I want to save the length.
It doesn't matter what you do with the leftover rope. I'd just leave it on the ground.
Cool, makes sense - Thanks!
Hello maybe can you suggest any begginner backpack 3-4mile roundtrip actually iwant to try it first time and swedome video
One other question... My full bear bag was pretty heavy. So heavy that I damn near took the whole tree down trying to get to it the next morning. I thought I did it the same way from your video. You ever have trouble getting the bag down?
Sometimes when it's really heavy yes. Hard to say if there was anything wrong or not, but it's hard to screw the knot up and have it still work. Maybe try pulling at a wider angle to reduce the stress going straight up. Also I've noticed the lawson line I am using now to be much easier to pull compared to 550 paracord. www.lawsonequipment.com it's called ultra glide bear line I believe.
So much easier!
Forgot, did you say you use 35 ft of cord? I think my Z-packs bear bag came with 50 ft (very thin cordage, so it's not a huge bundle) it just seems way too long. I wonder what the minimum is you need...
+MountainMuse I've been fine with 35'. I've run into situations where 25 feet of line is not enough though
So I feel stupid.. I always struggle trying to get a clove hitch tied while I'm doing this and never even thought of doing a Marlin spike hitch here.. that's 100x easier!
+Ian Frye I used to do a clove hitch but the marlin works just as well and I can do it without thinking. Don't feel stupid. Just keeping researching
maybe with the buccle of the food bag we even don't need the carabiner ?
+Tanuki you don't need the carabiner but it makes things easier.
how high must the branch be
+Dale Chaffee the bag should be about 12 feet above you.
What bag is that?
+Snail Trail Outdoors sea to summit dry bag 18L
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Very helpful video! Wouldn't you want to place your food bag in a rat sack as well? So rodents can't chew through it
You can, yea but if you hang it right rodents shouldn't be able to climb down the rope. I did have chipmunk chew into my bag when it was on the ground but that was my fault.
@@FrozensAdventures when i set up camp how do i avoid critters unknowingly chewing through my stuff ?
Check out ursack if you are really worried. There's no full proof way to stop critters from chewing gear
I have never hung a food bag in a tree
before you consider hanging your food bag, You do realize bears can climb trees right... We call Food bags "Bear Pinatas"...
Well that's why you hang it away from the tree and do the PCT style hang so they can't swipe your bag down. I'd love to hear what you do. Do you use an Ursack? Because you know they can rip through that and it's been proven on the AT this year.
God help us if bears develop thumbs
Sorry to spoil your "PCT narrative", but this method has been used way before the PCT even existed!
The point of the video is not where the hang method originated, but how to teach the hang method. Personally I appreciate Jason's adventures and instructional videos. This method is WIDELY known as the PCT method, regardless where it originated. Stop being an a-hat and take your trolling elsewhere.
@@pocononut129 Sorry if facts hurt your feelings! Sounds like you have reality issues!
@@1959LP4U Trollers will troll. If brains were dynamite, you wouldn't have enough to blow your nose. This has nothing to do with my feelings, but everything to do will your trolling comments like "sorry to spoil your PCT narrative". NEARLY ALL COMMENTS HERE ARE OF A POSITIVE NATURE, BUT NOT YOURS!!! Lest I inform you, this young man is highly proficient and expert in hiking and backpacking. But you feel the need to be an a-hat and 'pick the 'fly $hit out of the pepper'!!! Such a sad reality of today's social media. I hope you find better ways to focus your energy, and all "your intelligence".
@pocono hey dude don't worry about people like 5min10. They have no direction in life so they try and point out the dumbest things they can possibly find and make them facts. It's a parenting issue from when they were kids. Much better if you just don't give them the attention.
Have a great day!
@@FrozensAdventures Really enjoy your vids Jason. I take something out of every one. Keep them coming. Regarding @5mini10 you are absolutely correct. He represents the quintessential troll.