The weird groove from Jacob Colliers "Hideaway"
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- Time Consuming Ep #27: This episode deals with this very interesting rhythmic event, that seems to be rather appealing to many artists. 3 of them are discussed today.
Jacob Collier - Hideaway • Hideaway - Jacob Collier
Destiny Potato - Addict • Destiny Potato - Addic...
Tigran Hamasyan - The Poet • Tigran Hamasyan - The ...
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#musiceducation #polyrhythms #quintuplets
best music theory channel, period.
when are you collaborating with adam neely?
The existential question every new music theorist comes across.
As soon as he discovers this channel is my guess :Ъ
PROTIP: analyzing 'exigence' might bring some target audiences ))
I have been obsessing over guest/host interchange in mvmt 2 for years now
Hope not
That shaker that comes in in the second verse of Hideaway, immediately caught my attention but I couldn't fathom why such a small element added so much... Thank you so much for explaining this!
I can NOT fathom how in the world this video has only 360 likes?! Trust me this is high level rhythm management. I studied in Berklee College of Music and you start learning this until 4th or 5th semester yet this videos are free 🆓 and so good! He is really good . Thank you so much!
Dude. You’re the Mr Roger’s of music dissection. I enjoy this so much.
Cute cardboard cutouts playing music is the wholesomest thing ever.
WOW hahahahah amazing
Dude, it was so fun to watch, so easy to understand. The way you explain things is fantastic. Thank you for this video.
10/10, super clear understanding and description of difficult musical theory
I love these "aha moments" for my favourite songs ;) Thank you Yogev!!
hahaah totally !
I noticed this in the song before I watched this video. My rhythm perception is getting better and thanks for teaching me
OHHH that's great !
Such a perfect explanation. I first came across this on Addict, and then Hideaway a few years later. The latest instance of it that comes to mind is on HeLa by CarBomb. It follows a similar construction and progression as Addict.
Thank you for everything you do.
i love the poet, and that end is soooooo beautiful and mesmerizing
Hela by Car Bomb also uses this polyrhythm! You should do a video about car bomb, they're craaazy rythmically speaking
Ahh, the memories... I remember beeing so excited figuring out this groove first on Tigran's The Poet and then discovering it in a few more quintuplet pieces. Like for a few times in the Hi-Hat in the sax solo of Panzerballett's Euroblast beginning at 3.20. :D
Panzerballett is full of crazy rhythms!
The only awesome sounding Potato I've heard yet
as a former music performance major...this is a friggin genius method of teaching!!! bravo maesrtro 🤘
Thanks!!
Great, as always. Keep up the good work.
Super chanel, super videol! Thanks a lot!
the glass bead game by plini uses groupings of three quintuplets, i highly recommend checking it out
Will do!
There’s some pleasant sounding 5 over 3’s. my favourite easyish 5/3 is just dotted 8ths on the hats then quarter eighth quarter played as kick snare kick.
Would love a breakdown of literally any Sikth song!! I'm sure you're into them.
I seem to have chanced upon a treasure trove of learning!! But, in all seriousness, these vidoes are making it super easy to grasp all the mind boggling rhythm sorcery.
As you’re always looking for interesting listening, I thought I’d recommend the following: Spastic Ink, Blotted Science, T.R.A.M., and Nova Collective. I was turned onto some of these bands after falling head over heals for Panzerballett. I love the drumming of Sebastian Lanser and the guitar-work/songwriting of Jan Zehrfeld.
Oh I love those groups! When I found Nova Collective I was going crazy
I'm not going to master this, but at least I got introduced to Tigran Hamasyan through this video.
I'll take it!
Great video as always!
This may be an unconventional suggestion, but Groovetude's CZcams channel has a lot of great polyrhytmic piano pieces! There's sheet music of it as well as him straight up explaining it sometimes, so not much of a mystery… But still some incredible rhythms worth checking out if you haven't already!
Oh! I'll check it out ! thanks !
WOOO!! addict :D i had no idea this was one of david maxim micic's bands... i feel like i missed out here.. :)
Oh yeah! He's a monster. I love his music so much
Thank you for what you do! Awesome stuff. Hey, one thing. In the poet, you said the guitar comes in groupings of three and then maybe the bass joins in. Just wanted to confirm that what you called the guitar IS actually the bass being played higher up on the fretboard. And it then drops down to the lower octaves when the full groove kicks in. Let me know if I got that wrong. Cheers. Again, thank you for all your beautiful videos. They have brought a bounty of knowledge to my life. ❤️
Ohhhhh gotcha ! ok ok I didn;t know
Really interesting! thanks for the video :)
Man, you are very impressive
wonderful content as always, and i'm enjoying the playlist too
Man you are amazing!
Bro, check it out. That mandolin in Hideaway is doing this pattern (144434). But that 1 is actually a rest, or if you want the end of a phrase of 5 that is split between two bars (if you know what I mean). Like if it was conceived as a 5, the first 4 partials are at the end of the 'first bar' and the last partial is actually that rest at the beginning of the next bar. Anyway everything comes up to 20 so it checks out.
hahahaha EPIC!
I knew there was something there, so I wondered.
Thanks!
Have you studied Mahavishnu Orchestra or older fusion artists and tunes? Would love to see you cover some older material?
I know of them, I don't really know their music so much. Any particular songs ?
@@YogevGabay "Birds of fire" is popular, One word, and Vital Transformation are also great older fusion tunes all featuring Billy Cobham (one of my favorites). Not as intricate or layered as Tigram or Animals as Leaders, but John McLaughlin wrote some cutting edge music in the the post Miles Davis 1970's era.
Thanks for all the great teaching and inspiration!
Peace.
@@YogevGabay "Miles Beyond" from their Birds of Fire album is a killer tune. It's funky as hell and has a very nebulous 1. I would love it if you'd break down what's happening there!
Maravilloso. Por fin alguien habla de esto
My pleasure!
Sei un figo!
Hey Yogev, got a song suggestion: What's going on in the latest album of power trio Karim Ziad, Omri Mor & Mehdi Nassouli called "Assala"? I had the chance to work on it but not the time to ask them about the Song "44" and what happens in the "Chorus" rhythm-wise? Something is shifting! Maybe you can find it out :)
Will check it out !
4:09: Sounds like 5 to my ear.
the mandolin is doing groups of 4 in hideaway too. Edit: you said it later, sick that you noticed that too.
hahahahhahahha such a cool song
awesome video man. Can you do a video explaining the concept of Toto's song Dave's Gone Skiing. I find it confusing.
Will check it out!
Always fun to watch you analyse stuff. Regarding 3:5 you might enjoy my video "Face of the wind" and the things I do with this polyrhythm :-)
Henrik!
I've seen almost all of your videos already hahaha
Some of your Konnakol exercises have been SO helpful for me, and I've practiced them a lot.
Thanks for checking out my channel, it means a lot!
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Collier's quarter notes are so slow, would it not be easier to count it as four bars of 5/8? What are the considerations in choosing between equivalent rhythmic descriptions?
That's a great question.
So, calling it 4/4 does 2 things. First, it allows you to also switch subdivisions easily and not be confined to that 5 all the time.
Second, and more importantly, the 4/4 gives it a frame and provides a wider structure that I think make it feel better as a player, thus making it feel better when you listen to it. Makes sense?
@@YogevGabay Yes, thank you!
Make me dance, make me dance from mark giuliana and the band heernt is one of the craziest rithm stuff y have heart. Please listen to!
Thanks, i realy like your videos!
I'll check it out! Forgot about that album. Such a good one !
Are you related to Yuval?
No hahah I wish
from now on i'm going to count 7 by saying "maxim micic'-s bands"..
יוצא לי 6 איך יוצא לך 7?!
@@YogevGabay שים לב
למקף , אני בעצם כפיתי על זה להיות 7
Tigran wins
hahahahah
לא הוגן
you should have used jacob /hideaway as clickbate man this couldve gained much more views
I'll try let's see what it does !
tigran uses it most musically because he doesnt put it like " LOOK MOM IM DOING POLYRHYTHMS!!!"
someone who isnt familiar with polyrhythms wouldnt even notice that something fishy is going on there and could just groove to it
That's exactly what I like about these examples. I usually don't enjoy those LOOKKKKK I DID 5 OVER 4 !!! LOOK AT MEE!
How is it quintuplets in 3s? Isn’t that just triplets? He even says it resolves after 3 bars of 4. Doesn’t that just make it triplets? I don’t understand.