Walther WMP 22 Magnum
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IF you bothered to check Walther has a list of ammo that works well with the WMP and ammo that is "not recommended" both the Winchester AND any 30gr ammo not recommended.
I picked up an WMP recently and have been very happy with it. I only use CCI MAXI-MAGS and had no functioning issues. Was very happy with my accuracy off-hand at 25 yards. It is my first Walther.
My Walther P22 owners manual says that the pistol was designed around the CCI mini mag cartridges, other brands don't function well in the P22. I bet the WMP was also designed around the CCI cartridge.
I have on and I'm very happy with it, very accurate and no recoil. Flame thrower and loud.
I love my Walther WMP. It's alot of fun to shoot. The fire ball is really crazy to see and play back on video. One thing i noticed is all the speckles left behind after shooting it. I have to clean it after using it. Very easy to clean but should aware of having to clean it after use. The spent cartridges fly like crazy so be aware of that also
I appreciate an honest opinion. I have always enjoyed your reviews. The gun is yours and it functions properly with the CCI ammo and that’s a win. Thanks for keeping it real!
The lower rear sight helps accuracy. If you lap your slide in, note wear, clean up/polish friction areas, this gun will shoot any ammo reliably, until about 250rds, where the lighter loads will start acting up because the ammo is really dirty, so clean about every 250 if running lighter loads. My WMP is one of my favorite range toys. It's accurate enough, loud, and blows fireballs...
Have a .22lr Walther and this one in .22mag and both are neat guns. Yes mine prefers the hotter stuff but after 1,000 rounds it will run pretty much all ammo.
It's definitely lower powered ammo, causing the problem. The spent shells ejected far more vigorously from the two that had no function issues.
After 500 to 1000 rounds, it may settle in.
Been using CCI Maxi, Gold DOT 40GR and Hornady 45GR FTX, with no issues. Love it.
Looked like some of the Winchester were loaded too light. And we're not cycling the slide far enough back too pick up a round. 99% of ammo problems I've ever had came from Winchester 😔
Video quality looks amazing
Love mine. Makes a nice fireball :) Tac driver with a dot on it, also found that it will run Hornady Varmint Express 22 WMR Ammo 30 Grain V-Max with no problems, even though it's not on Walthers list. I found that not loading the next round may be something with the mag. I took both mine apart and put some lube on the follower and i stopped having any problems.
I bought a WMP last year and have put about 500 rounds thru it without a single malfunction. Walther has a list of a ammo on their website that shows the best and worst ammo to use in the WMP.
8:15 It would be really cool if Walther tweaked this little rockstar a bit to get 5.7x28mm in there for that Five-Seven cultists...I mean...fans. 😸 Ruger and S&W have 5.7x28mm models now and it seems like the caliber is gaining more traction very slowly similar to 10mm Auto. :) Variety is the spice of life. The magnum .22 caliber rounds like 5.7, .22TCM, and .22TCM9R are all fascinating to me, but I have never fired any of them.
Great review. Walther probably is the best pistol manufactured. There's other quality pistols like HK and Arex.
My husband and I are collectors of German firearms so I'm dey biased.
Thank you for sharing.... Were still needing to purchase this excellent pistol.
God bless 🙏
Walther knocked this out of the park imo. Works great. I have always been a .22 Mag. fan due to fun factor for plinking and historical availability/pricing. Even today is can be found at reasonable prices. I also like the fact that Walther provides a listing of approved ammo that has proven reliable in their offering and this list is not limited to one or two very hard to find pew pills. 5.7 is very nice and would also be welcome, but the ammo cost is still to high imo.
I got one back in July ‘22, I love it! Very reliable, accurate and fun to shoot.
It typically has to be 40 grain in order for it to cycle well. Speer gold dot 40 grain personal defense ammo works best for me also CCI Maxi mag also 40 grain this thing is flawless with the list of ammo that is recommended by Walther I can truly say that the wmp Walther Magnum pistol is the king of the 22 magnum semi-auto
Best mag release and catch technique of any channel
Took mine to the range shot amscor 40 grain and cci maximags 40 grain. Had 60 malfunctions out of 150 rounds. including not feeding, jamed going into the chamber, and half ejected casings. I cleaned it, going to leave the slide open for a week and rounds in the magazines for a week. When it did work it was fun. Cant wait to try it next week. I have no optics on it.
Caught the preview for this video on your visit to the Handgun Radio podcast earlier this week with Ryan Michad. It's always enjoyable when you make a guest appearance on the show.
Honest review as always..
I went to the tool shed to pick up a Taurus TX22 Compact and spotted the Walther WMP. Picked up both, the Walther was an impulse and was because, it is a Walther.🤷♂ Not having any ammo, I read through the manual and Walther had a section going over the performance of various ammo. They recommended the CCI Maxi Mag, so I ordered that. I wound up putting a red dot on it, and I love it.👍I have discovered, that with the extra weight of the red dot, it can be limp wristed as I discovered when sighting in the dot. Good review👍
There’s one sitting at my local gun shop and I’ve been seriously considering it. Thank you very much for the video.
Do it. You'll love it. Very fun gun.
GOT ONE FUN TO SHOOT WITH THE RIGHT AMMO--READ THE OWNERS MANUAL
The WMP is the first gun I have ever had that legitimately needed a break in period - I was super excited to get it but was worried when it malfunctioned quite a bit in the first 100-200 rounds even with recommended ammo. However, since then it has been much better and functions almost flawlessly. I think it just needs to be well lubed and broken in with a few hundred rounds. Don't worry too much if it isn't perfect right out of the box.
I purchased the Walther WMP because I have a Kel-Tec PMR 30 22 mag, they both shoot extremely great. The Walther WMP is a little heaver than the Kel-Tec PMR 30. I wouldn't take anything for either one. I love to target shoot with both guns. They are both great guns.
Just a word to the wise, I had a Walther P22 that took about 400 rounds before it was broken in and started to work flawlessly. In that break in period, I had a few failures to fire and hangfires. The worst thing was failure to extract. I was using cheap ammo with thin sidewalls in the cases. Lesson learned, don't use cheap ammo while breaking in a Walther pistol. As soon as I put some hotter Remington and CCI ammo through it, the P22 never had any other problems.
Winchester ammo is known to suck.
Decades ago they used to be a great company.
😀
4:36 the distance on those spent casings is crazy far. Fun to watch.
If you look at the ejection pattern, the Winchester was less “oomph”…. The 1st ammo was much peppier….
Looks like it works with the right ammo! I still have my PPQ, PPS, and P22 😆. Just stuck to my old school Walthers. But that is cool for sure.
Let me first say I enjoy your reviews. But you definitely did not read the manual prior to going to the range. Walther clearly explains what ammo is recommended and what ammo is not. Your review validates the information they have already provide in the manual. All the ammo you had problems with is listed as do not recommend and/or do not use. The CCI Maxi Mag is the preferred ammo and they also suggest staying away from any ammo less than 40gr. My experience with mine is, as long as I use the recommended ammo it runs like a champ. I really enjoy mine.
Really enjoyed the review, i have been looking at buying this pistol, thanks again!
Great review. Thanks. I have a 22mag Colt trooper mark III that I bought new in the 80's and always had an interest in that caliber. Lately, though, the trigger return spring keeps breaking, even after replacing it. Ah, the curse of the 22mag, lol, even in revolvers.
I have a pmr KEL-TEC it runs pretty well I have the same problem with Winchester ammo in 22lr thanks for the video very informative I was thinking about getting this gun
Justin, another awesome video and review buddy!👍
Not a .22 magnum but the Taurus TX22 is the best .22 LR I’ve ever shot. And half the price of most .22 models
Yep
Hey Justin I also have that stapler patch, love to see it!
I'd love to see a CC version of this. Shave off 10 ounces, 1.5" of barrel, .25" from the width,1.66" from the height, and I think i'd finally have a CC my wife would love and carry every day tbh
Check out the Ruger LCR .22 Magnum. It's a great option.
Hello 👋 my shooting friend, thank you for sharing this informative video. All the best to you. Stay safe.
I’ve had a lot of problems with Winchester 22mag even with my revolvers, CCI’s have been much better
Walther makes solid high quality pistols. I own the Walther Creed 9mm and the Walther ppks 380 acp.Both shoot flawless, I am keeping my eyes open for the Walther wmp 22 magnum. If I see the PDP first I'll get that.I love their pistols.
Get both...
Try federal 50gr they work and group well but hornady 45 gr critical defense shoots fantastic
Look at the Walter specifications, it requires a certain type of ammo... the gun is very capable. Both ammo that worked have something in common :)
I also like it's full size and appearance. It looks, feels and sounds like it's bigger cousins... :)
Evidently, he did not read the recommended list. I was glad he ran some AMSCOR because it was not identified by Walther and is available for around .20/round if you buy bulk...
I have just purchased one. Have not had a chance to take it to the range Thank you for a good review.
Not at all surprised that the Dynapoint had issues, as it’s a mid-range “game” load, not a full-powered round. Same goes for the 30gr Hornady because of the light bullet. My best guess is that standard power 40gr ammo is going to be the way to go. The Armscor seem to group well offhand, so l expect it might be a solid choice along with the CCI. Winchester 40gr JHP was always a standard for .22 Mag performance in the past, but I don’t know how it stands these days. I do know that my experience with their current .22 LR ammo has been less than stellar.
Would like to see velocities from the various ammo choices at some point. IME, using a revolver with a 5.5” barrel, 40gr ammo ran about 1250fps, about the same as .22 LR in a rifle. The autoloader without a cylinder gap should be a bit better, and certainly an improvement over typical .22 LR handgun speeds. I see the Walther as a good trail and small game gun rather than a plinker.
I didn’t wait probably will wish I had wish the group would have been tighter from the rest though maybe they will fix that issue if you put a red dot on it get the lightest and only use 40 grain ammo enjoyed the video
Bought one the first day it was released. It would not feed ammo out of the magazines. Once I could get it to pick up a round it would jam or fail to feed every two to three rounds with every suggested ammo on their list. The magaines would wiggle over a quarter inch back and forth when locked into place. I sent Walther a video of the magazine slop. They confirmed it was defective along with my local gunsmith . After three months with no answer I started calling Walther customer service. They finally told me they would replace the pistol since a replacement barrel hadn’t arrived for it. Three weeks later I called and was told there was nothing wrong with the pistol! I asked for a replacement as promised or a refund. Walther chose to refund me. ALOT of the WMPs have had the exact same problem and have been refined under the 30 day walther refund program. After extremely poor customer service and Walther lying to me I will never buy another Walther.
Justin, that was Winchester's Bolt Action .22 Mag ammunition, that's the reason you had to rack it each time.
Excellent review 👍
I have a 22 magnum revolver and it seems some rounds are loaded much hotter than others. It's pretty loud but some rounds will make your ears ring as if I just shot an ar-15 right next to my ear.
The best ammo for this we used was Winchester. Had issued with CCI and Federal. Lots of misfires and ejection issues. Same with Savage 22 mag rifle. The Winchester ammo had 2 misfires in 100 rounds and no ejection problems.
Very honest review. I am kind of new to watching your reviews and have found them to be very helpful and spot on. I have this gun and my results have been very similar. I wish I had not bought it and waited a while
I had to give a "thumbs up" for the Led Zeppelin cap, alone!!
Thnx
Just bought a WMP and it performs flawlessly but if I rest my thumb on the slide stop it will not lock back on the last round. I have to train myself to position my thumb differently.
Love mine. Companion to my CZ 457Lux .22 mag. Have been shooting .22mag since 1964.
Wood chuck control.
🎯💥👀☮️🗽⚖️👍
‼️Adhere to Walthers recommended ammo specs for reliable trouble free operation. It's on their web site and the owner's manual.
Always clean and lubricate before first shots. ‼️
Hornady 30gr V-Max Varmint Express Polymer Tip: NOT RECOMMENDED
Nice looking pistol. Looked like it was shooting high but not outrageously bad. Definitely likes the CCI Ammo. Not sure I'd want to pay $500 for a .22 Caliber pistol but still a decent gun. I agree with you and will keep watching for a 2.0 version.
It's a quality gun, built to last, and the .22 WMR is a fairly stout cartridge. Also, it slings fireballs, which is super fun.
My PMR30 is at 2000 rounds with only 6 malfunctions failures to feed and eject . Maybe I got one of the only good ones?
Great review!!! I've been shopping this gun and watching every review that I can find. I was comparing and researching the S&W also but have since dropped it from my list as it seems to have even more reliability issues than the Walther. At the end of the day though, considering what I've seen for reliability, accuracy and the cost of the ammo I may just buy another 9mm instead.
What happened to the Armscor? It looked to be functioning properly and the best offhand group. I have a Rock Island 22Mag(1911) that likes both CCI 40 grain and Armscor 40 grain. Rimfires in general have their preferences, semi auto rimfires more so than revolers.
CCI BRAND: (Most CCI is good to go)
MaxiMag 40gr JHP and MaxiMag 40gr Target: WORKS BEST
Every 40gr+: WORKS WELL
30gr Hollow Points: WORKS OK
FEDERAL BRAND:
Most 40g, 45gr, and 50gr Federal worked well. (Including Champion and American Eagle)
Speer Gold Dot 40gr: WORKS VERY WELL
HORNADY BRAND:
Critical Defense 45gr: WORKS VERY WELL
NORMA BRAND:
40gr JHP Small Game Ammo: WORKS WELL
REMINGTON BRAND:
40gr PSP (*Was only Remington ammo tested): WORKS OK
FIOCCHI BRAND:
Shooting Dynamics 40gr JHP: WORKS BEST
Winchester did not make it onto Walther's recommended ammo list because of consistency problems.
Hornady 30 grain also not recommended because it does not have enough recoil...
The approved brands run perfectly. IMO, quality gun needs quality ammo...
Yes, seems like it be better to wait. Unless owners of this one , just purchase CCI maxi mag ammo
Those 45gn Winchester Dynapoints are great hunting rounds -- from a rifle. They get good expansion.
Curious otherwise if that recoil spring needs a full 200+ round break in period then some of the other ammo would work better. Try another video soon?
Look how far those empty cartridges go. Easily about + 10 feet away.
They do - they went about 10 yards! Except for the underpowered Winchester stuff.
Ok I bought a P22 and sent it back X2 because of dble stacking etc.
Now I only run CCI mini mags and squeaky clean to avoid failures
My Browning 1911 22 eats up anything yet to get a failure
Hornady 30gr V-Max Varmint Express Polymer Tip: NOT RECOMMENDED‼️
READ Walther's technical sheet on approved, tested .22 magnum. They're the engineers. Not you.
Love your channel.👍
I have mixed feelings about this, which I'll save for later - but I don't recall seeing that info in the manual, which I did flip through. I may have missed it, and am not trying to set the gun up for failure by any means - but it says "22 Magnum" on it, not "Some 22 Magnums".
Federal is the best. I run it in my Ruger RPR and it's super accurate.
I am a firm believer in putting talon grips on every polymer gun that I have ever gotten since my first Glock, this is the first polymer gun that I have not put a rubber talon grip on I want to know if you put talon grip on yours this is the first one I didn't have to😊
I think the winchester is too underpowered to properly cycle the action, the 30 grain might be at the very edge of reliability with this light weight bullet. If it was my gun I'd strip it and polish everything so it runs smoother - kinda like what you have to do with a sub-2000 dollar 1911.
Noticed you (pretty much) shot high with all ammo with good groups. Get a red dot---it's got plates to handle 4 different footprints. It's a great gun and fun to shoot. The CCI Mini Max IS the best round to put through it; but I've PURPOSELY put rounds through it that both the manual and website suggest to NOT use, and they worked fine in mine. Maybe I got the acceptation and not the rule. Great video!
If ur ‘challenged’ by loading a 22 mag magazine then I would agree….probably not the handgun for u.
Trust me folks….it’s no big deal.
Those Dynopoints have power shot out of a ruger single six.
Found this on the Walther website: RAT SHOT: WILL NOT FUNCTION IN ANY FORM IN THE WALTHER WMP
That Winchester is too light to properly cycle the slide. Walther’s manual lays out what ammo is recommended and Winchester isn’t one of them.
I was excited by the news, But not so fast. I haven't found a decent WRM shooter yet, not even a rifle that can compare to 22LR. Perhaps that why we get two cylinders with a SAA, at least the LR works. Good Video and Nice try.
Too thin, too long and not enough recoil for a proper blow back system. To work properly the WRM would need a gas assist, and that would just foul after a few rounds.
Bought one yesterday and shot 4 mags through it today. Like the gun but had a couple failure to fire incidents. It didn’t seem to like some old Remington ammo I had. The rounds that failed were clearly impacted by the gun and my buddy put them in his gun where they failed to fire also. Want to shoot CCI Maxi Mags but I can’t find it locally. The ammo situation is disappointing since I can buy a box of 9mm for $13 but I have to shell out $20 for a box of 22 magnums. Wish they went with a double stack mag that held more rounds but the gun is still enjoyable as is.
I cringed as soon as you mentioned Dynapoints ! I have many years experience with 22mag autos, pistol and rifles. Just notice the smell of the a dyna powder... oder of black powder and runs very dirty! Winchester does have normal/better 22wmr ammo. Dynapoint ammo only good for revolver or bolt action. Nothing wrong with the Walther pistol. In the past; AMT's 22Automag pistol also got underrated reviews due to the Dynacrap ammo. It's the cheapest 22 mag ammo.... go figure!!
Try the Remington 22WMR as it is a hotter round. Work well for me.
Kinda wonder what velocity difference in the ammo I know cci and cor bon are usually hotter maybe lighter bullets and junk win bullets not enough pressure to cycle the slide
Good video, as always. Trigger system looks reminiscent of H&K's p30sk LEM ( Law Enforcement Modification) . Is that true?
I know Walther makes some good handguns
Check your mags mine had rough spots on the mag lips , can’t hardly see them but they were there. Cleaned them up & no more prob. Shoots everything I shove in it.
I had a Kel-tec PMR30 that blew up in my face on the first magazine. I think I dented the round and it didn't feed all the way. It fired out of battery and blew up right in my face. I sent the gun back to Kel-tec for a full refund.
That's Kel-Tec for you. Get the WMP instead. Walther builds guns that work and last. Plenty of their pistols from before World War 2 still work just fine.
I also have uplula loader for the pmr so you don’t bend the cartridge
mag spring tension was a problem in mine operate short mag’s, now mine eats most rounds with 12 in the mag
Hey Justin,
Thanks for the opinion!
The one thing I noticed (other than the bad sights) is: the rounds that cycle most consistently are at (or about) 40 grains. It looks like that Walther doesn’t like the heavier grain .22 WMR.
Also, I would encourage you to try shooting the Kel-Tek PMR 30. I have a few of them and have not seen any of the problems you noted with the Walther.
I do have one Walther .22 LR - and it is about as accurate as your Walther .22 WMR. I am not a fan of Walther’s .22 collection thus far.
But, as you aptly stated: this is also just my opinion.
Thanks again for the review!!
The PMR has a far worse reputation for reliability and build quality than the WMP.
@@joshklaver47 That has not been my experience. I’ve had a few PMR-30s - only malfunctioned when fouled up with too much carbon. Thanks for sharing your opinion though.
You say you’re a fan of Walther products and yet you didn’t realise that they require consistent cartridge loads. It’s not the firearm that’s failing, it’s the propellant weight loads that’s not correct. You are correct, sir, it’s just an opinion, but not a very informed one.
Superb weapon
Most nerve-wracking I've ever
Thanks for your video. I would buy one if it was in .22 LR. Hopefully Walther will come out with one in .22 LR.
They already make .22 LR pistols, but shooting .22 LR gets boring after a while. The main advantage of the WMP is the more powerful .22 Magnum cartridge. It is more effective, lots of fun to shoot, and never gets boring. Get the WMP. You will never regret getting into shooting .22 WMR.
I didn’t even know this pistol existed….
Same. Never seen this one.
They're great guns. Much more fun and better performance than .22 LR pistols.
Also all my 22lr rifles are more accurate than 22 mag, for me it’s just a fact, I do love 22 mag still
I also love Walther's handguns and I was wondering if you have compared the WMP to Smith and Wesson MP 22MAG if so what are your thoughts?
Knowing how 22mag ammo can be problematic in semiautomatic firearms I would have expected you to do the necessary research and review Walther's ammo recommendation document for the WMP prior to conducting your review.
Nice hat
Nothing but CCI Maxi Mags 40 grain thru my Walter WMP. Car calls for premium and the owner uses regular and wonders why it's knocking, go figure.
I run Federal Champion 40 gr. in my rifle. I wonder how they'd do in this pistol...🤔
22 Mag in this style gun likes to be run with 40 grain ammo …. Same issues with other brands guns in 22Mag like this .
It's a 40 grain ammo cycling gun. A version 2.0 probably won't make it possible to cycle 30 grain or 45 grain ammo any more reliably. Winchester 45 grain Dynapoint has failure to fire, failure to chamber and failure to extract in my 22 WMR rifles and failure to fire in my Ruger LCRX 22 WMR. I stopped buying it and would not base an opinion of any 22 Mag firearm on whether it can make it through a mag, clip or cylinder of that very poor ammo or not.