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YF-23 Black Widow II vs Su-57 Felon: BVR Missile Battle & Dogfight | DCS
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- We use DCS to simulate three battles between the YF-23 Black Widow II stealth prototype and Russia's 5th gen Su-57 Felon. The YF-23 uses AIM-260 JTAM and the Su-57 uses R-77M Adders.
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Have they tried the new top gun run like the movie that would be fun to see
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@@grimreapers I have what I think is an interesting idea-- Plot of Top Gun Maverick into Original Top Gun!
Maverick steals MIG-28 and has to Dogfight MIG-29! Differential Thrust The MIG-28/F-5! Both flying Black Paint Red Star skins! Just really like the idea of Older Fictional VS Newer Real, would be a great challenge, and entertaining af!🙏👍
@@grimreapersI would love to see a GR version of YF-23 in some of your wargames. Its higher stealth and lower IR signature, combined with a high weapon load (in the production version) compared to Raptor/Lighting make so many interesting possibilities. But then I would love to see you guys plug in F-16XL in some fights too just to see the differences.
Another thing, the 52, not Stelth...
If you have a BVR advantage, don't go low. A lot of AIM-260s would have connected if the shot was taken from 40,000 ft rather than 4000.
YF-23 my beloved
F-23A: my dream
YF23 body pillow when
Sexiest mf to ever hit the skies. Sign me up for that body pillow
Fun fact, YF-23 doesn't have thrust vectoring because they wanted to reduce IR signature from the ground, so as to reduce tracks by shoulder launch heatseekers. Engine exhaust nozzles have heat tiles and is mixed with engine bypass air to reduce the temperature of the exhaust gas, which reduces IR signature from EO sensors and heatseekers like Archers.
It seems like the B-21 Raider adopted the Grey Ghost's light grey colour scheme making it hard to spot at high altitudes.
In order to have enough lift, internal space and maneuverability, the body is extra wide and the rear stabiliser is extra large but canted at an angle, eliminating vertical & horizontal stabilisers used in F-22.
I would guess that the YF-23 is 40% to NGAD. The intake and engine bypass will need redesign for ADVENT, more internal space is needed for larger anti-ship missiles and more sensor points are needed.
The final shape may be a flatter bottom with a larger trapezium that starts closer to the cockpit. Engine intake may even be above wing although I don't think so due to designers needing an s-shape duct to shroud the turbojet. In order to keep the turbojet as close to centerline as possible for higher rotation rates.
It will be quite exciting to see what the designers come up with for NGAD! Let's see if it is closer to YF-23 or B-21.
They claimed after the competition they were unaware that it was a wanted addition, and claimed they could have added 2d vectoring to the yf-23. Both my grandparents worked at northrop grumman bethpage during this competition, i know alot about this plane, it was supposably more stealthy than a raptor if you can beleive that. But yes its heat signature was taken care of very well they used tiles that nasa used, nowadays im sure they would have a better solution. Also the YF-23 was able to hold a much much bigger assortment of weapons, the f-22 can only hold air to air, and only specific air to air missiles at that, the yf-23 could of held bombs, and if they wanted just air to air, it could of been stocked with more air to air missiles than a raptor and a larger assortment, not just aim9x's or things that size. The YF-23 would of made an amazing plane, an amazing interceptor. It was also hitting mach 2.0+ in test phases while the f-22 was topping out at mach 1.6. This is all fact you can go lookup. The only category the raptor was better in was low speed manueverability and not by much because the yf-23's tails are about the size of a f-35 wing alone and move on a 360 degree axis, its highspeed manueverability was better im pretty sure. It also could flat out operate and manuever at speed the raptor couldnt reach, like i said the raptor was topping out at 1.6 mach, this was reaching 2.1 supposably. At the time they couldnt admit anything over 1.8 due to it being classified, but if you ask them now theylll tell you it was hitting mach 2. It was a better plane, and the only true 6th gen airframe yet a fully unique diamond wing design, that flew well to, very well. I also know they were getting 38-40 thousand pounds of thrust from the grey ghosts GE engine. Thats more than a raptor puts out now raptors put out 35,000 pounds of thrust.
@@profo4544Yes I watched the documentary (think it's still on YT), 2D TV is indeed possible for positive-G maneuvers. Modern ceramic tiles may be lighter and retain more heat (re-radiate heat slower.)
Both YF-22 & YF-23 would have needed more work before they could be operational. But yes, the F-22 took a lot more money than expected to reach that point. Even its shape is different!
As for other specs, those are top-secret but there are leaks and simulations that people have done based on aerodynamics. Thrust figures are also probably under reported.
It has been confirmed that the JASDF will adopt the design of the YF-23
I'm not sure about that first point, the YF22/F22 has special perforated tiles to allow engine bypass air as well as using materials to dissipate the heat, and it managed 2D vectoring. Also V-tails have been around since the 30s, those parts were coined ruddervators.
@@ultralaggerREV1 And it is speculated that the NGAD and possibly FA/A-XX will also use tech from YF-23.
The F-23 maker needs to paint the red hour-glass back into the belly like the original test planes had. 🤩
true! although only the black widow had the hourglass, gray ghost always lacked one. also it was told to be removed by the contractors once they noticed it was there.
Exactly. It was there for a few days until its ordered removal.
The Yf-23 definitely deserves its cult following. It's the sexiest plane ever, except the f-14. I'd love to see a modernized XL concept for the strike intercept role. Also, a navalized version in a competition against the f-14 for intercept efficiency would be very cool.
There was a navy version of the widow that even had a mockup
Why do so many people insist on calling the F-14 “sexy”? I don’t get it. To me, it’s got a very workmanlike aesthetic. It’s a functional chunky monkey - a funky chunky monkey, if you will - but compared to other airframes from its era, I always thought the Tornado, F-15, and F-16 looked more the part (it’s the same way the Spitfire will always be the most aesthetically pleasing aircraft from the Second World War: I can appreciate the P-51 Mustang’s more muscular lines and overall technological and performance superiority, but it’s just somehow less to look at considered as objet d’art).
F14’s flew over the house I grew up in, definitely one of the sexiest planes ever made. The falcon and eagle are just as sexy
Problem is it had External Influences. (British) America couldn’t afford to have components to be owned or able to be produced and or sold by britain again.
So the British made their own test bed then got fucked over by the F35 program.
@@feliscorax I agree with you. The F15 definitely looks sharper/modern compared to the tomcat. I don’t understand the hype around the Tomcat and even the a10.
Seriously a fighter way ahead of its time. Imagine it now if it had been operational and upgraded for the past 25yrs, Definitely far superior to the Felon, Lower RCS than the F-22 as well.
Anyone else here old enough to remember flying this thing on the old game Air Combat on the original Playstation?! Haha!! Every time I see the Black Widow I immediately think of that game, it's the first time I got more familiar with that aircraft!! Great flying as always Grim Reapers!!
Nostalgia fr
The 'fire everything button' ? That's out of the Starship Enterprise playbook. Mr Worf would heartily approve.
The main problem with modeling any of this is the fact that the radars can't actually data link. There is no notching when you are being spiked by multiple radars from multiple directions that are all communicating with the missile.
That's part of it, they also get way more of a warning than is realistic. You wouldn't know you're getting spiked by an AESA LPI radar, and depending on the radar seeker that goes into the JATM, you might not even get a warning when it goes pitbull.
@@williamhumber5890LPI radars can be detected, it is simply harder. But having an AESA as well makes that easier.
@@williamhumber5890 correct. Couldn't have said it better myself.
also, each side knows the others are coming. where as irl the su57 might not even get a warning before the widows are behind them or shooting them.
@@sharpy3453 That is untrue, let alone the fact that it's radar would detect it nautical miles out, its IRST has a greater deception range than its main radar.
Reason I play DCS and AC7?
The YF23 documentary.
No joke, that film inspired me to learn about American air dominance 🤣
The Felon's cockpit guves me an aneurysm
The developer doesn't want to change it, not his forte.
Why?
yf-23 is such a beast and this was no contest lol. its too bad radar and missile datalink cant really be properly modeled. you cant really notch multiple radars lighting you up
Im so glad people have stopped calling the Felon a stealth aircraft.
Agreed.
It has low observable features at best...
The F22 is so much more stealthy.
We haven't, it is stealth and only Americans say it isnt
@@paulcadden4967 let's stop beating around the bush. The SU-57, at least as of current, sucks. As Cap says, it's low observable AT BEST, that's even that is assuming the IR ball is closed. You can be a cheerleader all day long, but the cold hard facts are the F-22/35 are in a league of thier own compared to the Su-57. Even the J-20 is likely superior in all aspects over the 57.
@@paulcadden4967it is not stealth its just russia claiming
@@paulcadden4967 It would have been stealthy back in the 80s and 90s, it isn't stealthy by any means today.
Nice fights! Very tense while the Cat and Mouse was in play. Whew, nicely done GR!
YF-23 >>>> NGAD FTW!!!! God, the YF-23 looks like it's more than halfway there already. What a beautiful aircraft. Would be sad to see it lose its tail feathers, though.
Probably the FA/A-XX too
Peak Ace Combat Battle
I won’t admit peak Ace Combat until somebody makes a DCS Nosferatu mod.
@@Orienithey made an ADFX Morgan mod, though
@@Orieni Well, someone makes the NGAD Mod in DCS, the ADFX01. And that is awesome.
@@Rjciralliit ain't nosferatu though, that thing is just something else design wise
@@Massakre8492nd I’m pretty sure it’s at least some offspring of Mig and Su. They’d probably have to run it with the Railguns, as I don’t think DCS can handle Missile Swarms
4 min in vid when posting, immediate flaw in the match, the Felon pilots know they are facing the F-23, so they're going to dive to the deck right away since they know their enemy before being detected. Yep Cap you just noted that tactic as the tactic you'll use.
Where can we either buy or download the YF-23 mod? I need it in my life
Unfortunately its not done yet, but progress has been made on it if you look back at the first video and look at this model now! It'll be out some time in the future.
I wished the USAF had the F23. Such a bad ass jet.
if it had the F-23 you would say the same about the F-22
@@riskinhos You're not wrong. Both planes are absolutely amazing.
@@riskinhos
Not for me personally. I was YF23 all the way. F22 looks like a supped up F15.
In all 3 runs. The felons thought they were hunting until they learned that they were being hunted. The black widow 2 was able to just own the airspace and just had to get the right timing with the felons going in and out of the valleys.
I know you guys have said you don't want to release your versions of mods until you're happy with them, but the fact of the matter is that what you have is better than anything publicly available, so as far as I'm concerned it doesn't matter too much.
Why would any true stealth plane get anywhere within detection range of a fourth or even near fifth generation fighter? It is almost a joke to even consider the merge with a true stealth plane. The YF-23 getting to the merge means something has gone terribly wrong. Staying high, very high, means the stealth plane can get within less than 6-7 land miles of a fourth gen on the ground without getting within it’s detection range.
Yes. Planes don't get into dogfights anymore and they haven't for a long time. The movies and games still have it like that because it is more visually interesting.
My thoughts exactly. The YF-23 drivers in the video severely handicapped themselves by going so low and so close to the enemy. Other advantages of staying high would be that the Felons wouldn’t be able to hide in the canyons because the YF-23 would look straight down into them, the launched JATMs would have way more energy, and the risk of flying into the ground would be zero…
@@GageEakins ...not really interesting FOR tons of us Whom love realism...and sincerely i hope Eagle dynamics gonna make thing true
@@GageEakins what u mean when saying air combat....is that BVR or dogfight
@@jamilayahyaoui101 All aerial combat of any scale in the modern age is BVR.
Thats assuming that out of the handful of Felons they have one that can still fly
These Felons have ultimate system to defeat American air to air missiles - they never leave their hardened bunkers!
I played a LOT of the 1992 PC Jetfigter 2 ATF game featuring the YF23 and this was great fun.
JF2 was my favorite for a long time. I wonder if a playable version exists somewhere.
@@StevenVenette I had it running in dosbox a few years ago. It's basically abandonware now so can be downloaded in a few places. Nostalgia doesn't make up for the ancient graphics but it was fun to see it running.
13:38 14:12 the panic when you can't see the yf-23 is so realistic
I bet that for NGAD, the USAF will go for something like the F-23 concept - emphasizing BVR more than dogfighting (maybe drones will be better for close attacks by then)
This sounds good. Drones lead the way. Then piloted plane comes in to mop up and get whatever defeats/survived the drones.
@@codename1176 basically an Ace Combat boss fight
If the b-21 is allowed to be a refinement of Northrop's earlier stealth bomber design, I can definitely see the ngad being a refinement of the yf-23.
Current NGAD specifications have it being closer to a bomber than a fighter (Essentially a Mach 2+ B21) and certainly not capable of dogfighting.
6th gen will be VERY sensor, cross coms and stealth oriented IMO leaning heavy into BVR combat and sensor fusion with AI assistance so the pilot can focus on directing drones while he stays back and fights with the drones which will largely be directed by him but controlled mostly by AI.
wow, this version of the blackwidow is super scary .
I remember when the F-22 contract was awarded to GD. I was at my first job out of undergrad (Solomon Bros) on the FX desk and the CPS desk was trading calls on GD. They won the contract but the desk paid too much (volatility) for the calls. Late 80s with that radar x-section!
really enjoyed this way of getting through the mission in your video :) thumbs up
Jesus, that first battle was white-knuckle, all the way through. That fight gave me chills.
And, who was that, commented on what a beautiful aeroplane it is? I couldn’t agree more. Lifting-body designs have always been so sexy, IMO, and this one is no different. The lateral profile is practically nonexistent…it’s like it vanishes entirely when you look at it along its x and z axes.
Hey cap, where the HELL does one find that YF-23 mod for DCS? Been looking for that for ages!
I don't think it's publicall released yet :(
@@d.thieud.1056 The first f23 video stated that it was wip if I remember correctly
I think the guys who are making it are still making it?
Black widow is such a good looking jet
Stealth Squadron's & Futuristic Planes VS Alien Invasion-- Independence Day and or Star Destroyer Fleet!
Center front formation-- Ten ST-21 Super Tomcat's, few miles behind-- Five F-15EX's and Ten F-15STOL/MTD's, few miles behind-- Two B-1R's, flying above-- Two YF-12A's, in the back-- One C-17 with Rapid Dragon!
Right Flank-- Ten F-22's, few miles behind-- Fifteen F-35's, few miles behind-- Two B-21's!
Left Flank-- Ten YF-23's, few miles behind-- Ten F-117's, few miles behind-- Four B-2's!🙏👍
An other fantastic video haha, this was very interesting a very ideal idea to hide in the mountainous terrain, just to lure them YF-23's in, very smart idea.
People want to see it because the BWII should have been the aircraft that won the competition between it and the YF-22.
I feel like a much better way to figure out which aircraft is better is to have an actual mission.
Maybe something very simple like striking a hawk battery on each side. Irl the point of having the better aircraft is to allow you to affect stuff on the ground and keeo your enemy safe from thebother sides aircraft.
i agree. what i was thinking is something like give the aggressor 3 different spawn points to choose from so you dont know which way they are coming from every fight. you can have them as air superiority and go in front of a bomber or something. then have one side on ground and have them scramble to intercept the aggressors. you can have them start as soon as ground radar pings them from early warning radars. this will be a more likely scenario to test them out. you have to kill the bomber to win. then switch sides to see how things change. i like the idea of instead of just spawning in air and merge in middle to have some sort of mission because irl its almost never just 2 group of planes flying at each other in a death match. it doesnt have to be bomber escort either we can switch up the missions. i just think its a little boring to have them do the death match. its ok when you are doing war birds or guns only but with bvr it doesnt really make sense to me. i would like to see more scenarios vs instead of deathmatch.
That 2nd fight was really stellar teamwork and strategy on the side of the YF-23s, and excellent ACM on the part of the Felons. I’m commenting just after the analysis of the 2nd battle, but I find it difficult to imagine a scenario in which the Felons can remain offensive against anything as stealthy as those 23s, unless you were to somehow ensure they never get out of visual range, which means you’d have to locate ALL of them and get within visual of ALL of them extremely rapidly. I just can’t think of a much more nightmarish scenario for a small flight of combat aircraft than going up against these guys.
I love the Raptor; it’s beautiful and lethal and I love the thrust-vectoring, but so few fights result in a merge and a dogfight, these days, that I wonder whether those benefits-apart from being impressive at air shows-create any tactical advantage so great as near-total radar AND thermal invisibility. Being in a YF-23 is like being in an aircraft with a cloaking device.
That's truly disturbing to just see a smoke trail humming in like that.
As others here have said, the YF-23 is very much the grand father of the NGAD. Which is why there are rumors that the USAF will pick Northrup/Boeing design for NGAD. Because the Pentagon feels so burned by Lockheed over the F-35. Those same rumors say Northup already built and flew the NGAD tech demonstrator.
The YF-23 did not have a lower RCS than the YF-22. The inlets were insufficient to hide the compressor. A fix was intended but never made. It was good from the side and back but stuck out like a sore thumb from front.
They did hide the compressor, idk if you know how radar works but in order for a radar signal to give a sufficient signature, it needs to find its way TO the source, and back OUT to the original sender. In other words, a radar wave has to find its way INTO the intake (which is already small to begin with, and also the inside of the intake would likely be covered in Radar absorbent material so it would need to make sure it doesn't hit any of the edges inside of the intake.), but it would also need to find its way back OUT of the intake which it would've already struggled to get INTO the intake so the amount of radar waves going in and out would be VERY low.
Also the Production model would've had a cone making it even harder for the compressor to be visible (and was also to be a little more aerodynamic too). Also the Intake would've been pushed more up and to the side of the plane making it EVEN HARDER to spot the compressor blade with radar.
I've seen this argument a lot online and it irritates me because mainly because radar waves don't work like the way most people think they do.
@@-BSMTS I have a Ph.D in Aeronautical Engineering and Space Exploration my Undergrad degree is in Broadcast Engineering. I worked on the flight test program of both airplanes. What I said is true the inlets were not designed correctly on the prototype. You are so dumb you made my argument for me. I said there was a fix that was never made, you elaborated on how the fix would have worked. People like you irritate me. Oh and wile we are being condescending about this its called a center body or a defuser its not a cone. So... La, Dee Daa.😛Now Shut UP!
Sucks we couldn't have had the F22 and F23
Great job all 6 of you! Awesome flying skills!
The YF-23 silhouette/profile looks like a flying squirrel.
Awesome video cap, I think you've been able to tell I'm mainly a YF-23 kind of guy because these are the videos I comment the most on your channel. Although I do enjoy other videos too! its just I've spent nearly 2 years researching the YF-23 and this kind of thing is where I feel like I shine most in terms of Aircraft Knowledge! Love seeing the progress on the YF-23. Can't wait for your next video as always.
We need more stealth on stealth matches... But with more mandatory sonic booms...
Suddenly sonar is a thing in air to air combat and doing Target Motion Analysis submarine style! : D
Keep up from the good work❤
The YF-23 was the most beautiful and capable aircraft ever created besides the Blackbird.
Northrup- Grumman's engineering team spent day and night engineering this magical fighter jet. I mean they left their families, to develope the most developed fighter plane in the history of Mankind.
Lockhead manufacturing got the contract unfortunately. The reason being, is because the Pentagon hated Northrup Gruman for going over the by budget for the B-2 Spirit bomber.
Lookhead invend speed, but Northrup Grumman invented Stealth technology!
the desperation feels very like a WW2 fur ball
First time I saw a SU 57, Iremembered the YF-23 same elegance, sensuous lines True beautu. . And the YF are rather silent compared to the screaming SU 57
Cap, would you consider making the GR version of mods available to us?
Ships and Grounds vics available already. Can't share the planes as we don't own the rights, I used other people's planes.
@@grimreapers Maybe a link to "other peoples" planes in the description?
16:12 and therefore actually giving smokeless motors would be good for these scenarios
The yf-23 should be the 6th gen fighter. Just smooth out the lines, and make it bigger to fit the f35 engines with some additional fuel / internal capacity and top it off with a new EW suite. Would be a great next-gen replacement for the Strike Eagle.
The F-23 with F-35 engines will be 86,000+ lbs. of thrust. And with its aerodynamic design, this thing will go to almost Mach 3. This thing will be made into a 6th gen fighter, just watch.
@@elijahprasad7884 never mind the range it will get once the new engines come out.
@@elijahprasad7884 Why would you want it to go almost Mach 3 (assuming the engines and airframe could even take it)?
I have heard that the yf23 had electric optical sensors that could pick up enemy radio signals being sent, not intercept and hear.
Like the Russian one but idk how good it would have been.
It would have probably been a different variant because of the tech difference from the original like an f23b
Electro optical is a fancy way of saying digital camera.
What you're talking about is the practice of essentially covering the plane with radar detectors. I believe the F-4G was the first fighter to do this, and they did the same thing with the F-22, and it's becoming an increasingly common practice with all fighters
@@JZ909 yeah ik, just saying it did, don't think it is modeled. Would be hard for them to model it if it isn't already coded in some other plane, would take too much of their time and they really don't have that with grbaby and their schedules
The YF-23 might have been a better fighter but lost due to Manufacture favors and politics
Each had their pros and cons and Lockheed also seemed the safer bet for getting things done in a reasonable time frame.
Cap, I'd like to see the same thing with the YF-23 Black Widow but against the F-22 Raptors and then another against the F-35 Lightning! It would be a WIN I think against the Lightning's but I think that the Raptors would give them a run for their money!
growling sidewinder and his friend toxic did a test and the yf23 won a dogfight against the f22.
Imagine fighting these things but with drone wingmen on their side to draw you out.
Great battle! You guys are awesome pilots 🤩🤩🤩
For some reason, this colorful su cockpit reminds me of Wolfenstein
Seems that these stealths need to reintroduce the RIO role except they need to be a spotter so stealth pilots can work in a similar way to a sniper-spotter team.
Is that something GR can mod into it and test 4xF-22 vs 4xF-22 w/RIO?
the su-57 has a remarkable similarity to the proposed "sea widow" naval F23
Stealthy vs Sneaky
I have been waiting for this one.
The people that moded the F-23 need to put the STAR & BAR on the upper left wing and lower right wing.
YF-23 a bigger bird same class as Su-27. I am an ending F-4 Phantom II generation, full "teen" generation included the late arrival Mirage 2000 which I loved all of them expecially F-18D and finally from F-16 C/D variant (BWR capable). I learn to love F-22 (and F-35 too) but was fascinated by F-23 and I whished could see a two seats version likewise F-15E as a total combat airplane with two bays a real (dreamed) fighter/bomber plane!!!
...used Cap while I came in your valley...these words cannot be un-heard...😂
Thanks GR :)
The expansion of great tech is awesome but without an experienced Ace, it’s essentially an expensive piece of art!
I disagree. The trajectory is to make things easier for the pilot, to give him/her better situational awareness which also requires less effort to maintain (like in the F-35 with its sensor fusion of its LPI radar, IRST, and the DAS, providing a single picture created out of all those sensors, and with its DataLink which gives you the information from all the sensors around you, not just the ones from your own aircraft, making it much, much easier to maintain situational awareness and detect threats), to make it much more difficult for the enemies to target your aircraft (like in the F-35 with its stealth), to reduce workload (once more, sensor fusion makes it easier to manage your sensors, since you don’t have to constantly switch from one to another), etc. Modern conflicts have shown that no matter how skilled you are, when you’re in a significantly technologically inferior aircraft, it’s going to be nigh impossible to win any engagements (which is completely unsustainable in the context of any major conflict).
It’s important to remember that IRL, in a highly likely 4th gen vs 5th gen scenario, you’re not going to be aware that (for example) a group of F-35s is flying towards you beforehand, so you’d fly around normally, simply trying to do your mission, and out of the blue you’d get a few seconds of RWR warning because of an enemy FOX-3 going pitbull against you, and soon after your aircraft would be gone… And it wouldn’t take aces in the F-35s to do that. They’d have such an immense advantage against any 4th gen that merely adequate pilots would suffice (let’s say that you’re an absolute maverick, and thanks to your skill and talent, you had a hunch to scan the sector of the sky where the F-35s are with your radar and… it wouldn’t get you anything, since the F-35 would have to be suicidally close to allow you to even detect them; dogfighting skills wouldn’t do it either-they’d just stay back and launch BVR missiles until you’re shot down).
Battle of the concepts
10:34 If I were a Felon pilot in this scenario IRL, I’d be shiteing miself; it literally is like fighting some kind of spectral being-a ghost, or some sort of elemental. (Comment mad
yes the vid I've been waiting for
Hey cap, I've never actually used any mods myself, how does one go about getting all this stuff, are the aircraft individual separate mods? How does getting the GR mod work? I can't find it anywhere....
All in here: Mods: czcams.com/play/PL3kOAM2N1YJcbzwU5FCo0DRmCdF3owO1o.html
@@grimreapers thankyou, only thing I don't get is when in your videos you say mods are "grim reapers standard"/"grim reapers V1/2/3" is that just the accuracy/detail of a mod or does that mean there's a separate mod that adds to all the other mods?
Just like the F-22, if BVR fails and go to dogfighting, the YF-23 will lose due to thrust vectoring. As you know, it's who ever can spin that nose around faster in dogfighting, wins.
Hello there Cap, if you read this message, can you explain to us viewers if the flares/chaffs actually do anything? Curious as you guys always put flares out but it doesn't seem like it ever works as designed. Thanks.
oof that requires such a complex answer. It does all work BUT how well it works all depends on the parameters in play. Ranges/Aspects/Seeker head types/Engine heats etc. Needs a 60 min video.
Thank you for taking the time to read my message and reply Cap. Much appreciated. Keep up with your videos. Love watching them. Thanks again.
@@grimreapers Wouldn't object to an hour video on how the flares/chaff work (or don't) in Digital Combat Simulator.... Maybe some kind of competition video? Just a thought. Love your videos keep 'em coming!
One issue with the su57 is that the turbine blades is visable from the front.. its just probably just as stealty as a super hornet irl..
14:00 DCS is sometimes a horror game
Try the new isreali concept that involves an iron dome on a ship
If the YF-23 Black Widow can smoke the F-22, then it'll smoke anything else in the sky.
God this is a beautiful bird. Just imagine if this was the one chosen.
Would be cool if someone could model in the F14 stealth concept people have made.
Now kets see. Your in my bird.
My biological father worked on the YF-23 program at Edwards Air Force Base.
The YF-23 is a much better looking aircraft than the F-22.
And actually performed better, but they didn't shoot/ launch missiles from their aircraft. Why would they Not produce Both!?! Politics! Stupid desk jockey ass licks!(aka bureaucrats)!
(Speck of dust on my cell phone screen) there he is = piss myself. I cannot imagine doing this IRL and keeping your cool.
Black Widow best widow. YF-23 is one of the marvels that America was able to produce at its peak.
Their society probably was infected by then already but had not developed full blown AIDS yet.
Wo ha, it’s ower d wo ha.
The fifty seven does not stand a chat sports so ever against the widow.
Y-23 vs Mjg-28: Two pieces of non-existent vaporware.
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Yf-23 actually existed. 2 were built.
They were great aircraft and the person that got to fly both preferred the 23. However they lost to the YF-22 BC of various BS (some argue due to Lockheed's limitless lobbying budget, some because the 23 lacked thrust vectoring, we just don't know tbh), and so the YF-22 was turned into the F-22A while the YF-23 never went anywhere.
The felon was originally the pak-fa, it did get chosen and developed into a production model, but it's just shit. So shit India pulled funding from the program and didn't buy any despite being very invested originally. And Russia can't actually afford it.
A yes the venerable mig-28 😂😂😂
Because the YF-23 IS THE HOTTEST BIRD IN THE AIR WHEN SHE IS UP. JUST PROVING A BET.
With you being low and then being high you used more fuel!
Run high altitude in general with a BVR advantage.
This... But as a FFA with the addition of every stealth and low vis aircraft in the DCS catalog.
Yes Yes Yes. Long live the YF-23
Always love your innovation and amazing skills to create aircraft for combat scenarios. That being said, without the customized situation with valleys. Every single one of you would be DEAD against the YF23.
If the SU57 could get a lock, a missile should hit it shortly after. You are not going to survive the mar and the YF23 die. It defies combat logic.
SuperCAP will you share the link for the YF-23 Black Widow II
The Felon Isn't a stealth fighter. It's the cheap "made-in-China" version of what you wanted that your mom says she has at home.
What does Knob hunting mean?
These damn videos stop me from doing so much but I can’t not watch them.
I saw somewhere the YF-23 is under development again, it might be back in a couple of years. Nice video 😀
Japan, wasn't it?
@@dawnfallon6812 Yes, Japan. I looked it up. They seem to be interested in a version of this plane.
@@thejetfighter I would love for that to be the case. I think it was just speculation and I think Northrop is making a similar design but not a 1 on 1 replica of it. They are also doing the same thing for the NGAD fighter program coming up against Lockheed and Boeing!
@@-BSMTS It'd be nice to see the good old Black Widows in the air again 😀
@@thejetfighter Japan are in on Tempest. It's nearly always better to have a clean sheet design than to adapt an existing one, especially when the existing design is fairly old and was created for the needs of a very different military.
What about the L-band radars? why don't you use them?
Those are for IFF, they are too small to meaningfully be used to detect a stealth aircraft.
@@voidtempering8700 No. That's not true. IFF uses a different system. The fuselage of the su-57 is shaped strangely in order to accommodate the positioning of the L-band radars. IFF is not that bulky.
The relationship between wavelength and RCS isn't modelled in DCS.
The estimated RCS from the Su-57 is definitely not 0.12 and the F-23 definitely not 0.00008😂😂😂😂😂😂
although you may be right about the YF-23 since nobody knows the YF-23's true stealth signature. It is said to be lower than the YF-22. Also I think the Su-57 had reports from official sources confirming it's stealth signature. So idk what you mean by that.