Are you aiming for minimum price possible or just the best for under 300? Because with that budget you can get a 1440p monitor. @bob…_ mentioned a monitor. It doesn’t really matter what one you get specifically but some things to consider are if it’s curved or not, if you want to mount it is is mount compatible, 32 inch or 27inch the resolution of 1080p or 1440p. And the refresh rate which you want to be higher like 120 or more typically
whats proprietary on the pre build ... its pre BUILT.. off the shelf parts... what exactly is proprietary? any specific connection or is it just normal off the shelf upgrade stuff like changing mobo to a better cpu socket or better ram .... whats proprietary exactly?
For an OEM like Lenovo, HP, and Dell, what is proprietary is the case and motherboard. Sometimes the power supply as well. Even their GPUs are technically proprietary just by virtue of it not being off-the-shelf. The OEM motherboard often has limitations on the amount or even speed of RAM that can be used. The motherboard also locks CPU performance you you can't change multipliers or bus speeds. You can change out CPUs so long as the BIOS has the microcode for it. Sometimes on the PSU, they'll use proprietary power connectors for motherboard. Sometimes they'll even require power for SATA to be drawn from the motherboard instead of the PSU. There's probably more, but this is the bulk of it. Prebuilt systems that use off-the-shelf parts tend to come from the likes of iBuyPower, CyberPC, Digital Storm, StarForge, MetaPC, Corsair, etc.
exactly user- It's not like its a Dell Optiplex that really uses proprietary parts. I was caught off guard by the videos comments too. The parts being upgraded were parts you would upgrade from any real gaming PC. lol
Yeah, I personally have a legion 5i that had an i5-11400f. I found that the motherboard was bottlenecking the cpu (for some reason), but I upgraded recently (12400f with 16gb of 6000mhz) and it just works now for some reason
@@voidstillplayz359note that you made a pretty big mistake buying 8gb DDR5 modules. They have halved mem ranks and thus your Cpu is getting half of the effective memory bandwidth. It’s like chopping a GPU’s bus down from 128 bits to 64 bits, you’re losing anywhere from 15-25% of your Cpu’s performance just from that
The real question here is: how did you go from 11400f to 12400f? Cuz they are on different sockets. Only possible way would be that you changed your mobo.
@@alphanerd2305it does matter if the aio is intake cool air pass through it from the outside and if it is outflow then you will just blow warm air on it from the gpu. I have aio and my cpu ran like 9 degrees hotter with air flow going out on it instead of intake
@@its_theo_here9700 Did that extra 9 degrees put the CPU temp anywhere near the 100 degree safety shutdown? Because if it didn't, my original point stands.
Don’t get an Orion 3000 series case I made that mistake you won’t be able to figure out how to take the motherboard out, it’s very small, everything’s custom designed so there isn’t any upgrade ability and the airflow is poor
At what point does upgrading a computer just become, building an entirely new computer? If you replace every part in a pc, sure, it feels like the same pc but with better parts, but if I can take all the old parts and put them back together, making a complete system out of them, I basically just have the exact pc I started with, as well as a completely brand new build. So I now have two pcs and one of them is the one I started with and the other one is entirely brand new. Is it really the same pc but upgraded, or is it an all new pc? I know that's not what this is here, but it's an interesting question I thought of just now
@@Vasaroblox k buy a PC and experience ads when your screen does not move for 5 mins like when your fishing or taking a break and is in safe zone also have AI eat your memory even when your not using it. That's what windows 11 will start doing and you cannot stay in windows 10 starting December cause it's subscription based to be in windows 10 or just remove your internet and only turn it on when buy from GOG so not to use up your free trial. Starting also next year steam will be Windows 11 only
Thats hilarious. I boight a acer pre built. Attepmted to upgrade it and was hit with the same issues. So i completly changed the mother board custom mounted the aio extra fans 4070 super. Fuck acer. Customer support says its un upgradable even thoe the advertisement says its fully upgradeable.
@@C_KatakuriPlayz agreed very few games even need FSR3 and the ones that do still look amazing i dont regret buying the 7900xt and im honestly sad there not making a high end 8000 series bc id have surely upgraded to it
@@brandondean9040 Yea they should keep doing high end RDNA 4 GPU im sure everyone would start going AMD but I think if they designed a newer type of VRAM like NVidia uses GDDR6X RAM and AMD uses GDDR6 when they should make they own class of cards with elite VRAM type and improve the issus with AFMF and then boom AMD is the better option to got with.
@@C_KatakuriPlayz yep there would be no reason to really pick nvidia then heck even now the price to performance is almost always better unless you care about Ray Tracing which very few games even have it for starters and the 99% who dont care about it can get a better option for raw fps with AMD
To all humanity, I need a good monitor for less then 300$
Sceptre 75HZ monitor, a good 1080P $70 monitor
Buy msi ips 1440p 27 inch monitor
Just search msi then 27 inches or 32 then ips with 144 fps refresh rate or faster or slower
Are you aiming for minimum price possible or just the best for under 300? Because with that budget you can get a 1440p monitor. @bob…_ mentioned a monitor. It doesn’t really matter what one you get specifically but some things to consider are if it’s curved or not, if you want to mount it is is mount compatible, 32 inch or 27inch the resolution of 1080p or 1440p. And the refresh rate which you want to be higher like 120 or more typically
@@snorkob 300$ or less , 27 inches , for shooter games + FHD , curved or not , that’s all i think
That case is sleek though
Thatd why i had to solder cables together in my old prebuilt pc to upgrade
Me cranking up the ac to keep my pc cool 🥶🌚
Opening up the panel and facing the desk fan towards the case xD
i love oem designs, they're simple and not too crazy
😂
I would have changed the mobo aswell. Just dont trust lenovo
I got a victus 15l a while ago and im running into the same issues. So many proprietary parts itd make more sense just to get another one
Which part of it is proprietary? The ram, ssd slot motherboard?
@@kurt.official motherboard and psu, their psus are extremely overpriced if you wanna upgrade
whats proprietary on the pre build ... its pre BUILT.. off the shelf parts... what exactly is proprietary? any specific connection or is it just normal off the shelf upgrade stuff like changing mobo to a better cpu socket or better ram .... whats proprietary exactly?
For an OEM like Lenovo, HP, and Dell, what is proprietary is the case and motherboard. Sometimes the power supply as well. Even their GPUs are technically proprietary just by virtue of it not being off-the-shelf. The OEM motherboard often has limitations on the amount or even speed of RAM that can be used. The motherboard also locks CPU performance you you can't change multipliers or bus speeds. You can change out CPUs so long as the BIOS has the microcode for it. Sometimes on the PSU, they'll use proprietary power connectors for motherboard. Sometimes they'll even require power for SATA to be drawn from the motherboard instead of the PSU.
There's probably more, but this is the bulk of it. Prebuilt systems that use off-the-shelf parts tend to come from the likes of iBuyPower, CyberPC, Digital Storm, StarForge, MetaPC, Corsair, etc.
exactly user- It's not like its a Dell Optiplex that really uses proprietary parts. I was caught off guard by the videos comments too. The parts being upgraded were parts you would upgrade from any real gaming PC. lol
What case is he using?
got a prebuild 2-3 months ago, except CPU/GPU i switched everything, new MB, Ram, Case, (fishtank) and PSU
I would probably have to upgrade my cpu its a ryzen7 5700X and I'm not sure what way to go due to limit funds
I'd upgrade that aio to be located somewhere useful.
thats litteraly the best place to put it
How do prebuilt companies make it hard to upgrade?
Yeah, I personally have a legion 5i that had an i5-11400f. I found that the motherboard was bottlenecking the cpu (for some reason), but I upgraded recently (12400f with 16gb of 6000mhz) and it just works now for some reason
How you your mb bottle necking ur cpu???
@@Vvilvid Idk something with socket power prob
@@voidstillplayz359note that you made a pretty big mistake buying 8gb DDR5 modules. They have halved mem ranks and thus your Cpu is getting half of the effective memory bandwidth. It’s like chopping a GPU’s bus down from 128 bits to 64 bits, you’re losing anywhere from 15-25% of your Cpu’s performance just from that
The real question here is: how did you go from 11400f to 12400f? Cuz they are on different sockets. Only possible way would be that you changed your mobo.
@@aymanhariri2288 yeah I did, asrock b760m-h/m.2
Legion prebuilts are the second most upgradable OEM prebuilts, but no CPU BIOS updates suck. Better off getting an ABS prebuilt on Newegg
Mine needs a new cpu upgrade. R5 5600X, lookin at either the 5700X3d or 5800X.
Why do people keep using aio for exhaust, it’s starting to bother me tbh
Probably because it doesn't really matter due to how radiators work.
@@alphanerd2305it does matter if the aio is intake cool air pass through it from the outside and if it is outflow then you will just blow warm air on it from the gpu. I have aio and my cpu ran like 9 degrees hotter with air flow going out on it instead of intake
@@its_theo_here9700 Did that extra 9 degrees put the CPU temp anywhere near the 100 degree safety shutdown? Because if it didn't, my original point stands.
Don’t get an Orion 3000 series case I made that mistake you won’t be able to figure out how to take the motherboard out, it’s very small, everything’s custom designed so there isn’t any upgrade ability and the airflow is poor
me still having Gt610: 😢
Get a job man 😔
HAHAHAH i got a zotac gt610 2gb running my living room tv. nice
Lil bro just bought a whole new pc
If you were listening,he used same cpu
And same mobo
@@Gamer4908BSstorage too
I had to upgrade the ram. Bought a prebuilt 3050, i5 11400f, and 8 gb of ram. Next day bought corsair vengence pro 16x2
his prebuilt is my dream and his pc’s specs are much better then amd sempron2650 with 2gb ram isn’t it
i love watching these shorts knowing damn well i aint gonna afford upgrading from an rtx 2060 super and core i7 10700
My current pc: "upgrade... And buy... a graphics card that i dont have..."
Nothing if it’s not broken
I would upgrade my gpu 3060 I can only run 75hertz on a 165Hertz monitor and I only get 120 fps
I would buy an ps5 or xbox
That is not upgrading at this point it's replacing
At what point does upgrading a computer just become, building an entirely new computer? If you replace every part in a pc, sure, it feels like the same pc but with better parts, but if I can take all the old parts and put them back together, making a complete system out of them, I basically just have the exact pc I started with, as well as a completely brand new build. So I now have two pcs and one of them is the one I started with and the other one is entirely brand new. Is it really the same pc but upgraded, or is it an all new pc?
I know that's not what this is here, but it's an interesting question I thought of just now
I'd have focused on the platform (motherboard, cpu and ram) not just ram. Oem motherboards are horrible and lack too many features
I wish I could just buy a new pc I don’t even have one
Buy a Steam Deck instead cheaper and no bulshit AI and ads Windows 11
Ok I think about it
No dont steam deck is worse buy a pc
@@Vasaroblox k buy a PC and experience ads when your screen does not move for 5 mins like when your fishing or taking a break and is in safe zone also have AI eat your memory even when your not using it. That's what windows 11 will start doing and you cannot stay in windows 10 starting December cause it's subscription based to be in windows 10 or just remove your internet and only turn it on when buy from GOG so not to use up your free trial. Starting also next year steam will be Windows 11 only
@@powerfulshammy if you buy win 10 pro you will have a year of operating service
Whats the name of that case?
I am not sure but it looks like Corsair 3000D Airflow.
I’d upgrade my teeth
ram ssd hdd net work
Thats hilarious. I boight a acer pre built. Attepmted to upgrade it and was hit with the same issues. So i completly changed the mother board custom mounted the aio extra fans 4070 super. Fuck acer. Customer support says its un upgradable even thoe the advertisement says its fully upgradeable.
i'm between upgrading my 15 year old cpu and 4gb of ram but idk what's more important
If that thing is that old, you can buy ram for a few dollars. Then save money for a whole new system
Its those damn prices that's stopping us
ram, then buy a cheap 4th gen system
for 100€
I mean at that point just save up a bit more and get a new motherboard and CPU and that's a whole new PC
Da tubs
Ihave one and dont buy from dis no upgrade path and so many problems
GTX1060 to a RTX4070 Ti Super and thats it.
This is literally what I just did last week lol had my 1060 for 6 years. Rebuilt full system though.
4070 Ti Super or 7900 XT to do 4K gaming
I went with the 7900xt and it slays most 4k games and absolutely destroys any 1440p
@@brandondean9040 Yea good choice like if u include FSR 3 it can destroy any game at 4K and 1440p is nothing for that
@@C_KatakuriPlayz agreed very few games even need FSR3 and the ones that do still look amazing i dont regret buying the 7900xt and im honestly sad there not making a high end 8000 series bc id have surely upgraded to it
@@brandondean9040 Yea they should keep doing high end RDNA 4 GPU im sure everyone would start going AMD but I think if they designed a newer type of VRAM like NVidia uses GDDR6X RAM and AMD uses GDDR6 when they should make they own class of cards with elite VRAM type and improve the issus with AFMF and then boom AMD is the better option to got with.
@@C_KatakuriPlayz yep there would be no reason to really pick nvidia then heck even now the price to performance is almost always better unless you care about Ray Tracing which very few games even have it for starters and the 99% who dont care about it can get a better option for raw fps with AMD
Hi
I will not touch it I will build a new one first I will not buy it
Wtf is proprietary on this prebuild. you used the Motherboard from the OEM and nothing in this OEM build is proprietary
He jumped from 2080 to a 4070????
Yea idk but i think that is downgrade
@@Xhellax are you stupid
@@Xhellax lol how. the 4070 super is way faster then the 2080 super
@@Xhellaxits not 4060 bro
@@manusiaorang2842 ok i said idk i thinked like that
He came for you to upgrade, you downgraded his pc and made video about it. smart
Get a new pc or build a new one
Just gpu for a better one I guess