Table Football Monthly: July '20 Edition
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- In this 1 hour special, Danielle and Smiffy return at long last! We launch another 'in demand' pitch, feature the 1968 Subbuteo Advanced Rules, there is the Striker rematch, Danielle reviews a Women's Subbuteo Boxed Set and we demonstrate Subbuteo skills and techniques. All this plus the competition result and the July competition with a fab table-football bundle for a prize. Oodles of stuff!
The thirteenth instalment of the monthly magazine about all things table football, featuring product tests, reviews, demonstrations and a prize winning challenge.
Watching Tabletop Football Monthly introduced me to Subbuteo, and excited and interested me enough to get stuck in with a Pegasus Five-On-Five Astropitch box set and a retro set so I could have two full teams of 80's styled spin-worthy players. I am utter rubbish but practicing every day. I have come to look forward to each new episode of your show rather a lot. I really like the chemistry between the three of you, and I just grin ear to ear seeing the life-long friendship between Keith and Smiffy. When you two get going, it's like seeing the children you were (and somewhere still are inside) coming out to play, and it feels like the sun beaming out of dark and gray clouds. Seriously - it is the most endearing and wonderful thing. Especially in such a scary and troubled world right now.
It impresses me how such a seemingly simple game demands such exquisitely precise skill and control. I have mentally considered it as a strange cross between chess and billiards. It requires strategic thinking and planning combined with a keen eye and serious dexterity. It may simulate football, but it offers its own unique and impressive experience - thank you for introducing me to it! I could never have imagined, over a year ago, that I should one day be mightily impressed by a skillful capacity to flick tiny figurines about a mat, but here I am. Wonder and astonishment is found in the oddest of places.
Danielle brings a happy and upbeat tone to the proceedings, and makes me feel included - here is another woman who can flick a plastic figure with skill and have fun while doing it. She gives me the 'permission' I needed to enter what seems like a male dominated, and somewhat intimidating entertainment. Thanks, Danielle, for that!
I have learned so much from your show, and gained even more. As a raw beginner, I am grateful for every bit of the most basic understanding about the game. I still have trouble with aspects of the rules - I come to football with no previous knowledge at all - so the information you provide is vastly appreciated. Your discussion of rules in this episode was very illuminating. I hope some day you might cover fouls and free kicks in a little more detail?
Ultimately, in my case, thank you for introducing me to the wonders of Subbuteo!
What a lovely message to receive. Thank you. Love the fact you're playing too and don't worry about how good you are - enjoying it enough to practice a bit will do wonders. If you want to - join our Table Football Monthly on Facebook. We have a very supportive, family atmosphere there and I'm sure it'll fire up your enthusiasm. Thanks again - Keith
Awesome show again !! Best show on TV ! Thanks guys and all who go to making this. Now I ve got the subbuteo bug again !
What a brilliant show. Absolutely love it .
Superb episode again all! Throughly Thoroughly enjoyable!!
another great edition folks, great playing tips, good to see y’all back together
Another great show guys. Well done!
Great show loved the piece on striker,remember playing it as a kid,got a set every Christmas back in the 70,s. Enjoyed the show so much went back and watched all the rest. Brilliant!!
Excellent edition especially the '68 rules.
Plus great to see you putting a training pitch into production also. Bravo 👏🏾
Keep up the outstanding work!
Entertaining and varied - thanks to all three of you! Looking forward to to the future rules episode - the final one where you grapple with the slim 600 page FISTF volume should be a hoot - or maybe a whole series in itself!
Brilliant as always and love the 1968 Rules might need to adapt them to our Solo leagues here in South Africa. Great to see the whole team back and I will remember to enter the competition this month
Fantastic stuff! I've spent the last couple of days watching all your previous episodes. I first played Subbuteo back in 1990, me and my brother got a set for Christmas! Your shows have inspired me to get a new set, hopefully get my brother around to re-enact West Germany v Argentina Italia '90 World Cup Final.
Great video! Subbuteo is the most realistic table football game ever! Keep up the good work, see you next month! Cheers from Portugal 🇵🇹⚽️
You guys are fantastic what with yourself and the subbuteo collector you have inspired me to go back to subbuteo after 35 years and I am loving it...have made a couple of vids myself on my channel.. thanks so much guys and keep it coming...
Brilliant as always glad your back
Superb video, love this channel !!
Well I’ve now returned to Subbuteo and at 60 it’s fantastic, the 68 Advanced rules plus my house rule of stating you are intending to shoot, plus your house rules as they are so suitable and you need skill to develop them. Thank you so much, love the channel
Can hardly wait for the August episode. I've finally caught up with each monthly edition to date.
Thanks for getting me back into Subbuteo - I think it's been nearly 40 years.
Sold most of my rare h/weight teams years ago, still got a few left though, think it's time to get it down out of the loft!
Fantastic show. Really looking forward to the new training pitch.
Never came across this video before, it's superb!
Back in the 70’s when I was a kid, my Dad glued my Subbuteo pitch to a peice of hardboard for me. Unfortunately, he used too much PVA in one part just outside the penalty area and it seeped through creating a ‘muddy’ patch. It was quite a player stopper! So much so, my Trevor Brooking player, cutting in from a sparkling wing run, stopped dead on the muddy patch and the figure flew out of it’s base; a season ending injury. It took me back when I saw your muddy 70’s pitch. Bravo!
Those kind of things were bad, but could also give you a home advantage against your friends because you knew your pitch better than anyone
I'm glad I rewatched this, because I'm having a lot of trouble spinning on nylon with lightweights.
I love those house rules. And I love the possession rules you use. Makes more sense than the flick for flick rules of modern table football.
Just checked eBay and can’t seem to find the ‘68 rules. Will keep searching :)
Email me on info@tabletopyears.com and I'll scan a copy for you
Woo hoo :) first!
Welcome back!
Just set up my Subbutteo board finally!!
wonderful edition ... congratulations
I had the Munich World Series Edition. I also liked to collect all the little trophies and had the FA Cup (which looked brilliant) and the European Cup and a Jules Rimet Trophy World Cup but I don't remember the MWSE having a trophy included in the box. We created an 8 team league made up of familiar names as well as one or two we created ourselves, like Ansbro FC and Richmond FC. My team was Ansbro named after the street in which I lived. Initially they played in the 'New England' kit of 1975, with the white shirts blue shorts, with red and blue striping down the shoulders. I later wrote to subbuteo and asked them if they would paint a special designed kit for my team, which they did. It was modelled on the Coventry City design of 1975-78... but all white, with a red and blue piping down the left and right on the front of the shirt and shorts. I was totally bowled over when they did infact paint me that kit. I then created an entire club history, spent hours designing a club badge. Got numbers for all of my players and so I gave them all individual names (made up names, or loosely based on combinations of other names, like Alan Bremner and Billy Keegan.) My brother created the Richmond FC team who played in the Brazil national teams colours. He gave his players the names of people from American History and Rock Stars, like Stonewall Jackson, Custor E. Lee, Kirk Simon, and Free. Personally, I didn't think he was taking it seriously.
great to see the gang back together great july edition great to see smiffy back to his flicking
Just found your channel , it’s fantastic 🥳
Watching this and Subbuteo collector has got me into Subbuteo as a 15-year-old kid and I have recently purchased my first set hopefully I’ll get a stadium soon
Also was gonna enter the comp but I’m only fifteen so don’t know any of them
Still enjoying it mate?
@@1080pAdrenalinGaming ye
So happy a new version of the skills pitch will be available !
Have been looking for an old skills trainer set but they are as rare as hens teeth, this new one looks awesome, had a thought, would a fabric shaver help one of these nylon pitches or would it ruin it?
Oodles. Absolutely oodles of joy watching all of the videos you have put out. I have never played subbuteo but your passion is infectious. I did play a made up game in any thin corridor/hallway where each player had a Corinthian "big head" figure and the ball was bouncy. Hectic scooping shots ensued as both players knelt and attempted to be goalkeepers while holding a carpet worn Ian Rush and Ruel Fox figure each. Never played any games to the rules in the box! I'd be interested to know if tabletop football has common emergent games at meetups? Like mini games for football. As kids down the park we would mostly play solo or pairs knockout games around one goal or a crossbar challenge.
Thank god, your back 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
OMG Danielle is survived!!!! I love you honey !
I found very usefull how we flick the players, especially the modern base one. welcome back smify.
Welcome back fisherman's friend 😄 Another great episode, really awesome. That training pitch will be an instant buy 😁 And thanks for the technique explanations, I'm still having problems to chip the ball with the lightweights but I'll try your method tommorow. Bought two "modern" Zeugo teams with those flat bases just to see the difference, but for me it felt like a total different game then. Chipping is definitely easier and sliding of course, too. But the feeling of watching my opponent after spinning my player around his block shot is something I don't want to miss 😁
Thanks Max...you'll love the pitch and it makes practicing a lot more fun :)
Trying to word this without making it sound completely daft. Will the training pitch you are going to sell be only the pitch OR the pitch and the yellow goal "thingy"? Hopefully you get the gist of the question!!
@@StephenWestrip As far as I understood it's only the pitch, the goal "thingy" is from the Subbuteo training kit, you get that sometimes for 10£ on Ebay. Only the yellow thingy, the whole training kit with those meeples is more expensive.
got up this mournin first coffee and ya thats right watch it again. and still after so many watch the striker game at half time with the mic still laughing everytime classic !!!!!. feel sorry for Danielle putting up with you two lolololol
Anofher great video! It has that Sunday afternoon Big Match feel. Loved the Striker segment but lads, both of you need to read the rules! You can bring back a defender into the penalty area, not outside the penalty area or close to an attacking player! As long as they're a players length away, you're good. I call foul lol! Decider on the Wembley fast pitch! I haven't seen them on your programme, but two versions of the diving goalkeeper was made. A set in its own box was made for the Ssuper texture pitch, which came with the bases for that pitch. I'm guessing they were replacements or just in case you bought the All Star Striker in the blue box which came with throwing goalkeepers.
Your're really great and definitely gained a new sub! Greetings from Italy. :)
Great video
Another enjoyable and informative production. Many thanks.
I really enjoy reading about rules, especially house ones, from those who clearly respect the game. It's all part of Subbuteo social history.
It's reassuring to learn, after all these years, that I was not alone in disliking the 'back'. Also like your other house rule, which was introduced here with immediate effect.
Do you play the 'organising' rule? It was still around in 1968, and remains a good way of preventing a full-back unrealistically loitering near the corner flag when the defence next becomes required.
Great message David thank you. never played the "organising rule'. We'll have a look at that one.
I wish I found this channel earlier. Absolutely great stuff :)
I used to have that magnetic football when I was younger, the one where you whack players on the head if you want them to shoot or pass. But I could only play it with my sister and she wasnt great football fan so I barely got to play it :D
And I also had that one with "hexagonal" ball that is played 1v1. I forgot what it was called.
But one thing I dont like about this channel is that it is not called Table Fotball Daily :D
Does anyone else remember goalkeepers on springs...or am I imagining things...thanks for another brilliant edition..
Jag Betty Subbuteo did them. They were called ‘live action goalkeepers’.
Smiffy! We miss you 👍
he missed the toothpaste he left smeared on his top lip
he missed the toothpaste he left smeared accross his top lip
Love it as ever.... Highlight was the Striker piece for me - so many happy memories. I always think the 80s players you had Keith, give you an advantage over the all right-footed 70s players.... Bad strategic choice, Smithy! Still thrown by the "bring a defender back rule". Am taking it you cannot block the shot directly? Keep it up guys!!!
You can block the shot so long as you are the legal distance from the ball - we didn't as it would have made for a rather dull watch :)
Regarding Striker - so you are allowed to move a defender back, but is it only inside the half circle? Perhaps you could a review on the rules for Striker? If you have already done that, please let me know where to find it. Keep them videos coming, I love them!
the pitch is just in time for the new challenge season
another top show
You lot are totally bonkers but interesting,came here by accident 😂 but took me back to 1970s as a young boy playing this...great ))
Can I just say that Ulrich Munsterberg is probably the coolest name ever!
24:00 I didn't read the caption at the bottom of the screen at first; I thought it was background applause whilst you were introducing the players!
I owned Munich edition. Loved it....
Very entertaining and informative as ever. Love the idea of the practice pitch, up there for thinking, down there for flicking, as my granny used to say. Thanks for the tips on technique and the breakdown of the advanced rules. The review of the Woman’s set was spot on, horrible pitch and poor goals, let’s hope both improve under the new license. How can you market something that relies on a playing surface and then supply something made from nylon tights? More power to your collective elbows team.
True that. That "girls box" was ridiculous. Producers of the great "showboxes" would die in shame for that. Starting with the "air inlay"... aweful ( I mean whats wrong with laying in a 25p plastic lnlay Danielle showed after?) It looked like everything had been just thrown into the box like garbage 🙁 Proves that the designers didn't like their product. Or the money has been calculated too small 🤷♂️
Welcome back
Striker wot a great game good memories
Do you ever miss with your spins? Exceptional.
Yes I do...many times but once I get into a rhythm it seems to be OK :)
Another awesome show, since the last one i have brought my first lot of subbuteo as a adult of 47 years (Fifa World Cup Edition) love playing it again after probably 30 odds years, really interesting rule breakdown, but do those maximum 3 blocking flicks only apply if the ball is travelling forward or is it three blocking flicks until the ball is back in the other half? either way i much prefer that than blocking every turn.
the defender has three flicks after each of yours - after you've had one free flick in their half. If you pass the ball backwards - not into your own half- just backwards - then his 3 flicks start again. If you pass back into your own half then your opponent cannot move until you enter his half again. Hope this helps.
Just as I thought... no Edmonton Drillers #548 spare figure in the opening shot. Still looking for one to complete a set I picked up a longtime ago.
Good morning! Thanks for your videos! Excellent channel. Is it possible to download your intro song on a phone? I really love it.
Something for tomorrow me thinks!
How much are those new training pitches?
36:35 Clearly a small pitch for 'ladies' and their 'dainty fingers' ! 😁😁😁
Who designed this - Sepp Blatter ?!?
Being from over the pond, and haven gotten into Subbuteo merely from having seen a tv drama episode on a flight to Australia (I'd seen Tipp Kick in Germany in the 80's)... I'm a bit puzzled about a few items in the Subbuteo accessory world. I'm hoping you might be able to cover the topic in a future episode:
How/when are all of the non-player accessories used, if at all?
This question came to me as I saw the referee sets and was wondering, how are they used? 2 linesman, a ref, and the 4th official... how/when are they used other than to be out of position most of the time (linesman) or an additional obstacle (ref)? Not being able to find any posts or web articles or even amazon reviews on how they are utilized other than being great gifts for kids.. I was left wondering. I'm not building a stadium to look good, just play occasionally by rolling out my boxed set. Does the ref set provide any useful purpose in a basic table football game?
Beyond that is the larger question of the other accessories - how are they used, if at all? Building a stadium environment around the pitch as a permanent installed playing surface, ok, there is cosmetic value. But is there more than that?
No purely cosmetic
Are the 1968 Subbuteo Advanced Rules available online somewhere?
Check out the Pendle Falcon website. The owner produces his own line of flats (including Victorian sides) and curling bases and he plays by the '68 Advanced Rules which he summarises with annotations. He also has two CZcams videos demonstrating match play under those rules.
pendlefalconcom.ipage.com/index.html
Tried sending another e-mail, but in case they all keep going to the junk folder, I am interested in the winter pitch if it is not too late'
cheers great show do you have a mailing address also do you have any of the old hex and counter games?also like to add you have some great soundtrack music all the best
Thanks Jamie - we have a few counter games. They'll be coming up in a board game special later in the year. Thanks for the music comment - it's all composed and recorded in house so that means a lot. You can contact us at info@tabletopyears.com
I have a copy of the FISTF rules but is there a way I can obtain the ‘68 advanced rules you mention here?
I think I have the FISA rules as well.
Is there a PDF available?
Cheers
Peter.
Usually a good few on eBay classic white cover with the coloured drawing of a pitch and red surround in the centre
The Pendle Falcon (run by a gent who produces reproduction flats which includes a wonderful line of teams in Victorian kits) website devotes a page to the '68 Advanced or Traditional Rules. Here's a fairly comprehensive brief with annotations explaining the concept behind each rule:
pendlefalconcom.ipage.com/the-game.html
There is also a demonstration video of the rules being used in a rematch of Singapore v. Laos:
czcams.com/video/yfH-tewNCYI/video.html
looks like the manor ground,but a bit bigger
Quick question everyone. I have just bought the subbuteo champions lge pitch and am going to pin it to some 18mm MDF. What should i use under the pitch to slow it down and stop it playing like an ice rink? Regards,Chris
Place it over another cloth or pitch if you can. Also try brushing it with a softish nail brush touchline to touchline (not length ways). This should help greatly. Putting the pitch straight onto a board does make it run very fast.
Hi
Iv just purchased a small subbuteo joblot and have found 2 lightweight teams I cannot identify?
One is light blue with dark blue stripes on shirt
And the other is white shirts with red shorts/white socks with a red chest area
Any ideas??
Has the price for the training pitch been set?
In the next few days - waiting on delivery costs
I had striker with diving goalkeepers, can i buy it anywhere?
Ebay is always worth a punt
Haha passing in a str8 line will not make u more attractive to the opposite sex but will make u a more confident subbuteo player. Well done mate that was funny! Played soccer til 21 and never heard of this great game once where im from. Can't wait to get a astropitch. Never too late to find a new hobby and become less attractive to the op sex . Thx
When is the August 20 going to be on here?
27th I hope
What starter set do you recommend?
Honestly Mick - none of them. Poor design, poor build and poor player types. I'd either invest in a good old set (expensive) or hit the Auction sites and acquire teams, pitch, balls and goals of your choice
Why not mix a team with spinners and sliders to suit each position i.e. 2 sliders in defence 1 midfield and 1 up front the rest all spinners. John
I'm not sure it'll work is the truth. Firstly matching all those players types in similar kits and bases will be hard (and expensive) enough but, during the course of a game, players move a lot and so whatever you're trying to achieve by player types for significant positions will be lost. Finally, and just an after thought, the game's pretty good as it is :)
Hi Table Top Years :) I’ve been developing an expanded rules, role-play, 11-a-side version of Super Striker. W/ scaled homemade pitch.
Looking for someone to test it out with!
Do you have any of the diving Subbuteo keepers with the spring action? I had a very wobbly Phil Parkes.
They were called live action Goalkeepers and were a bit unpreditable. We do not use them very often.
Will utilise House Rule 2. Like it. "Back rule" is naff.
AVTID
But I can't support House Rule 1...Because of this: czcams.com/video/VbD7hu3nBE8/video.html
Fair comment - what a great team that was :)
Two years too late. But it is a real shame about the womens set. Women's soccer is big here in the US. Have a ten year old girl interested in playing Table Soccer. First question out of her mouth: "Where's the girls team?" Would love Zuego to do a womens team.
awful flat bases. only interested in heavy-weights and light-weights. thats real subbuteo. not the rubbish that hijacked the game in the 90s