I found the GOLD others did not!
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- I wanted to see what people missed when they were panning British Columbia's most impressive Panning Reserve, Tranquille Creek in Kamloops. So, I took my metal detector and went over all the workings I could find along the river. Detected peoples tailings, detected there left over pits, and detected the cleared areas of bedrock. What I found was impressive and surprising. Check it out!
Video filmed early October 2021
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You should interview Craig about his mine inspector job! It would be fascinating to learn more about that side of prospecting.
it's a great idea - should be mentioned within other forums as well, maybe we can get several tubers to interview fish and game, state epa, federal wardens - understand what's actually being said in different areas
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Yes, please do that! :)
Love this idea!
detectors are not 'excavating devices', and technically not even prospecting nor mining devices... it's electronic equipment, that vaguely defines soil types (elements) for those properly trained to understand their usage - in the right hands a detector 'may' help to guide you 'where-to' implement prospecting methods - at that point you then apply the excavating methods 'as posted' - it's not a game and there's no such thing as 'cheating', it's a piece of equipment that if used correctly can help to mitigate against harmful environmental methods
Hand pan and shovel are invasive tools, a metal detector is non-invasive, so less damage. So in my opinion a metal detector SHOULD be allowed for environmental reasons if nothing else.
The laws/rules against metal detecting are NEVER about environmental reasons. 99% of them are because some mid-level bureaucrat decides that he needs something to prohibit to get even with his bossy wife hen pecking him. Also known as little man disease or tiny pecker disorder.
@@marksadventurechannel8471 The mid-level bureaucrat making the rules has very little knowledge of the craft or hobby and it shows.
Environment Protection should always be a priority #1 no matter what. Bank diggers foul the environment in many ways.
That does make a lot of sense: using a detector to minimize impact.
checking the internet metal detectors are banned in places where digging is banned. if you are allowed to dig, doesn't seem to be any problem with metal detectors.
But your talking government. Nothing makes sense when government is involved. Lol
Based on what I hear in the video, his camera has a bigger impact on the environment than the metal detector does.
Mr. T Rex, If there's maybe ten thousand times more loose sediment sitting along the banks when the flood comes through, because everyone can dig the banks to their heart's content, there's maybe ten thousand times more brown crap in the water downstream. Think about how different the water looks when the river is high for the wet season, and how it looks when there's been unusual amounts of erosion upstream, like when you see hundred year floods, wildfires in the watershed, landslides from incompetently done roadcuts, etc. Rivers get like that sometimes no matter what humans did, and it kills fish, but allowing unlimited bank-cutting that's guaranteed to make even a normal winter high water level kill fish is as childish and short-sighted as pooping in the bath tub.
@@trex9194 There are about twenty different hobbies that have been just about completely shut down by people who were too immature to accept some limitations on shared spaces and resources. 4 wheeler guys tearing up meadows get intended trails closed. People ignoring burn bans in the backcountry in the summer get firepits in fire rings in paved campgrounds banned. Not only are the environmentalists right, but pretending they're not is what's going to get all prospecting shut down by being short-sighted and stubborn.
Dan, your enthusiasm brings joy to those watching. Always interesting and fun. Thanks for the adventure.
I agree! :)
I would have thought a metal detector would be allowed because the impact would be less along the river. I do, however, love the fact you take the time to find out what the rules and laws are to educate those who watch your videos. You got me hooked and now I am following half a dozen prospectors!
I can't tell you how many times I've had the cops called on me while detecting. People just get suuuuper pissed for whatever reason. Only once was I actually not allowed to MD. At a "wildlife reclamation area" on the side of my town. I live maybe 4 or 5 miles from it. But you are allowed to fish, hunt, swim, BBQ, walk your dogs, jet ski, but not detect. The vast majority of stuff I dig up is beer cans, broken bottles, lead, shotgun shells, fishing lures, and just a TON of trash. So lord forbid I go pic up and remove a bunch of trash on a wild life reclamation area. Just doesn't make sense.
where i live you need a permit to pick up trash , costs 50 bucks , you can have a maximum of 5 people in your group ,all need to wear safety vests green with silver , gloves that are non piercing, safety shield over your eyes a hat and steel toed boots, i got a stern warning for picking up trash on the highway in someone else's adopt a highway zone
If its an area with high archaeology chances or whatever you want to call it or its known for having old explosives you should not be detecting there. Im in archaeology and the amounts of times people come to an excavation at night to detect is insane. Its People like that and not reporting important finds that I dislike. Otherwise, just check the rules of the area before you detect for christ sake and if you're good you do you
People assume when they see someone detecting, that every single hole in the area was left by the detectorist! So a LOT of places have laws against detecting, instead of against leaving holes, duh. As long as you show how you've filled in your holes, and all the trash you are REMOVING from the environment, 9 times out of 10 you are allowed unless there is already a law for that city. Seems getting permissions on private land is still easier than hoping whatever authority shows up isn't a poo head that day.
In Kentucky State Parks there are many places where horseback riding is fine, but detecting is outlawed. Have any idea how much destruction there is with horses? Crazy stupid bureacrats.
We have a national park in Pennsylvania / New Jersey called Washington Crossing National Park. There's no gold but the possibility of finding revolutionary war pieces. The rule of the park is no metal detectors. I get your point but sometimes we need to preserve our history.
As for you gold prospecting I get your point too.
There's only a few gold prospectors on CZcams I'll patronize and you're one of them!! Thanks for the care and hard work you put into your vids much love and respect from Colorado!!💪👊🍻
You are without a doubt my favorite mining CZcamsr. You're conscientious about the rules, nature, and anyone else who happens by. You teach how-to and recommend the right equipment for any wannabe miners. You are generous with advice, assistance and loot. Your videos are just plain entertaining! Keep up the good work, Dan.
It does stink that people scavenge the places you show. I really do appreciate that you show everything. I have not panned for gold or anything yet but I have been trying to learn all i can before i go. I look forward to finding my own places and having my own reasons for digging in certain places. Thanks for posting. I do appreciate it.great videos and truly beautiful landscape in them.
I think you missed it, but is he not scavenging other people's places? Seem pretty hypocritical what he is saying and doing.
@@NET-POSITIVE no actually hes not digging up the whole site. Hes just checking the spots they dug up already for some maybe missed pieces. Not stripping whole areas. Big difference in whats hes doing and what he is talking about
actually that is a public reserve
@@smokeymacpot76 i know. Its just that he was saying that when he shows a vid of him getting gold on youtube. People go to the spot and dig it all up after
@@willmartin4477 yea
Common sense says a metal detector is NOT a processing tool. Common sense says the rule is directed at the processing of material. Dan..... keep taking your detector!! :>)
This would he my thought as well, thats why the sluice and high banker are mentioned. Could he go detect for coins and other stuff throughout the rest of the park? Probably.
The bloops from the detector totally had me flashing back to Pong and Breakout from the Atari days of the late 70s.
Unfortunately the people who make the laws don't know anything about gold panning, if you follow the letter of the law you would have naked people with a shovel and pan. There needs to be some legal clarification. Keep up the great work Dan, God bless
That would draw a nice crowd I bet.
That would work but only in July/August. The term blyme come to mind as most gold panners aren't so pretty naked,me included.lol
I agree with you that you should be able to use a Metal Detector. My brother is very big in using one. Not to find gold but anything else. He calls it digging up History and he has found some very old stuff.
lost my Dad and 2 aunties in the last few weeks and video's like this is helping me get through, some normality. heart broken :-(
I care that you are in pain that I have also experienced. You are in my prayers because the Lord knows how that feels too, and has promised to bring us peace and healing to help us through the loss. May he help you as well.
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@@davefish2280 your day will come and when it does those words will come back to haunt you....remember this reply...etch it into your memory for when it is your time to grieve for a loved one...you will remember this comment and you will know how it feels. May Satan have mercy on your a**hole
I always love when you can tell Dan is talking directly to the inspectors.
I wholely agree with you though, the metal detector is going to ensure much less damage to the environment in there. Without something to target with the only other option is to take the bulk process route and dig everything out.
Steve, keep it simple.
There are many spots where a person can find nice gold. But not for s usable detector! People have fun in the river! Finding small pieces and having goldfever.
With the next runoff the river reshaping the area!
The river moves more material in an hour than a man can move in a month. Sit down & actually read a book. Folks like you are the reason the common man can't make a decent living & enjoy a safe very educational hobby without having to pay 1000's or possibly face jail time for simple slicing or dredging for gold.
I understand Dan’s thought process but look at the process in a whole.
A metal detector is not just a small 6” coil and a hand shovel to others.
Like Dan said every time he shows where he finds gold,It get demolished.
Now imagine if they all of a sudden realize you can use a metal detector. Well some metal detectors have coils that are a lot bigger and detect a LOT deeper. Multiply that times how many ppl all of a sudden see they can use a detector and the creek is done for.
Dan got lucky not getting in any trouble. I love the guy and know he means no harm but some ppl who watch him are a whole different breed
@@Dapper422 "Folks like you". That's hilarious. I don't own a metal detector, I don't search for gold, and I do have a physics degree so I've read a few books. Please stop painting the world with your blanket assessments of individuals you don't know.
@@ezyrdr5837 Agreed, most anything will be taken to an extreme if people think there is profit involved. I can see your point that it would likely go overboard once made permissible.
Show 'em how it's done Dan 💪💪💪💪never thought I be hooked on these type of video's but it has happen.. keep it up bro.
Really good information Dan. I like how throughout the video you are polite but also very direct and straightforward in explaining the ethics behind the hobby. More people need to be like that in all hobbies and avenues of life. If all the experienced people went sour and gave the finger to all the younger generation there wouldn’t be any progress or even maintenance on ethics. So thank you for this video. I don’t even prospect and I’m hooked on your stuff. 😂
Thanks, Dan! Always fun to go along with you on your panning trips! Nuggets in your future!✌️❤️🙂🇨🇦
This is great! Dan anonymously reviews other folks’ digs while proving out his own prospecting skills at the same time! What a great idea for a video!
You earned my subscription. I've spent the night watching a bunch of your videos.
I love your style and you're very knowledgeable about prospecting. Love it. Keep up the great work 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Love your videos, Dan!
When it comes to the Panning Reserve and metal detectors, is the reason for the limitation just environmental impact, or is it to reserve an area for folks who want to pan, with the primary factors on finding gold being your ability to read the river to figure out where to dig, your panning ability, and your willingness to move material by hand? If the former, then allowing a detector makes sense. If it is the latter (or some variation there of - “levelling the playing field”), then excluding metal detectors makes sense.
Either way, a case can be made for and against the detector, depending on the goals of the rules.
Thank you for asking the question and reporting the results!
I'm glad to watch you as you are now one of my favourite Sunday viewing straight after si-finds 😀😀
Thanks Dan, Always good to go right to the source and get a definitive answer to one of those ambiguous questions. It avoids confusion and those pesky fines! It's always interesting to hit the pits and see what others left behind. I've worked older workings and was lucky to find flour gold. Those old timers really went after every bit that was there.
And as always, Great video! And Merry Christmas to All!🎄👍⛏️🎧🤠
Many years ago I was giving tours on a large gold dredge that had been active up until the early 1950s. Part of the tour was a gold panning demo. My grandfather had worked on the dredge, and thus knew of the small room under the bucket line where the "slop" from the line had spilled. That little room was gold rich to say the least. I would pan it out, then take the gold to the creek and salt the panning demo area. I must have sold a few hundred gold pans for the small store on the highway.
Invite Craig some weekend and let him cite you for using the detector, then make your case when you go to court. Your environmental argument is likely to clarify the rule in your favor.
Dan 🙌👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻,just for your honesty and clarity!! I’m sure lots will find this informative and will gleem some insight into where they are prospecting. So yes,this was a great upload,I enjoyed watching,I love learning. Best wishes sent
Love watching you and your family. Many blessings as you rock hound.
I thought in the video you stated that area wasn't "a recreational panning area", it was land that simply couldn't have a claim staked on it by anyone.
If the area isn't classified as "a recreational panning reserve" then presumably the rules that apply to those won't apply to that area?
If that is the case, then all the inspector has done is clarify what the rules are for areas other than where you were detecting?
Yeah, I caught that one too. Strange.
I’ll like and comment to try to get Dan to see this for clarification~
*Just say prohibiting the metal detector is disability discrimination.*
_Without it, Dan would lose his ABILITY to find pickers._
Hey Dan I found that spot 30 years ago... And how did I find that spot? Because someone had dug a big hole at that spot before me!
Enjoyed the video and Tranquille creek is a special place.
I appreciate just how careful and aware you are of keeping the banks intact!
Dan, I get the feeling you are naturally upbeat all the time. So refreshing. You dah man.
Dan thanks for sharing these sometimes-arbitrary rules. When was the law written? Were detectors even a thing? Do what is right for the creatures who have no voice. Efficiency and precision, then reclamation should be the rule of the day. I bet Craig has the power to decide if an enforceable action is required. Keep up the fun.
You should show an area you WANT opened up, and let the youtube snipers unknowingly open it for you.
I've been watching for a while and am a subscriber but I only just remembered an experience that might have keyed my interest. Some friends and I were on a mountain biking camping trip somewhere in the Western Sierra Nevada. While we were camping there a wedding was taking place between two panners who had fallen in love. The rings were made from gold from the very river where the wedding occurred on a bride spanning it. With everyone waiting on the bridge, the bride was having a freakout. She needed her shoes which were in the rented model T and some reassurance to walk out on that bridge. And I as a total stranger had the honor of helping her with both. I hope that the two of you are still happy.
I really enjoy watching your videos. Learning a lot about technique, tools & equipment. Good luck in your endeavors.
I've watched a lot of metal detecting videos and one thing I noticed was that most of them run every scoop under the detector. It lets them know when they get the piece out of the ground. If you did that it could cut down how much you have to pan.
But some of the tiniest flakes wouldn't show up on the metal detector, just the pickers. And all those flakes Dan showed at the end of the video are--combined--probably as big as a few pickers.
Ah yes, my home town and probably the gold i missed lol
Thank you so much Dan. I like where this is going because it will further clarify what we can and cannot use for panning. Perhaps the time has come to update the laws so we know what we can use and cannot use. Especially when we use such a common tool as a Classifier. We all use Classifiers. Thanks again Dan, you're the best.
I truly don't see the problem with the metal detector. You gave an excellent explanation for what it's fine, and I agree with you 100%
ok question after watching this video: is it possible to build a metal detectors equipment INTO the hand pan? According to the laws this would be permissible
Is it illegal to use metal detector ?
You would have to do your panning almost in the nude as anything remotely ferrous on your person would keep setting it off.
That sounds like an excellent idea, I'm not sure of the legality. The more equipment you can combine into one unit, the better I would imagine!
@@jeanolivierbourdages5885 Metal detectors are generally illegal in specific protected areas like battlefields and whatnot.
How about a composite/carbon fiber shovel with a built in point detector. Meets the definition of pan and shovel to me.
I am not taking a position on this, I'm just thinking. Maybe the motivation for a no metal detector rule isn't environmental impact, but fairness instead? Maybe they want people who can only afford a shovel and a pan to be able to have an equal shot? Basically they're trying to make the playing field equal? Again, it's just a thought, not an argument.
I am curious as to when the rule was written. It could be that it was written before metal detecting was really as prevalent as it is today since detectors used to be prohibitively expensive. Not as much now, though they aren't exactly cheap either.
I tend to agree with Dan on this one though, it seems like the general idea is to not have an outsized negative impact on the environment, hence why they list sluices, high bankers, etc on the "not allowed" list. I'd be interested to see what an inspector in the field would say to someone in that area that had a metal detector. If they'd actually tell the person it's not allowed or if they'd use common sense and acknowledge that by using the detector, the person isn't digging huge holes and greatly impacting the environment.
I hope there is some follow up to this discussion on a future video. It would be nice to understand if the purpose of the rule was for environmental purposes, or as you indicated, maybe making it level playing field for everyone, and thus truly only a pan and shovel is allowed. But then to Dan's point, is a small scraper tool allowed? wire brush? snuffer bottle? hand scoop? waders? etc etc, hopefully it's about the environmental impact, at least then common sense can at least somewhat play a part and things like small hand tools (scraper, brush, scoop) and metal detectors would be allowed, just no power equipment or sluice boxes etc.
I doubt it. Rules aren't made for fairness. They're made to protect something. And the fairness argument can be turned on it's head. What about the guy who only has a high banker but lost all his pans? It's too open to interpretation in a way that would damage the environment more. Unfortunately, banning metal detectors means that people will resort to brute force prospecting which results in a lot more damage to the river.
That makes no sense. Take todays logic out of it. These rules were written along time ago. Someone with no job could move a lot more ground then someone who works a full time job. That full time job might just allow someone more money to buy better things. With the way you say it everyone should have the same pan and shovel as well. Even in something as old as panning/gold prospecting someone has to bring todays woke bs to it, not a argument.
@@dodgeit3014 It'll be ok, homey.
@@Arkved1978 I agree. Dan's point is well taken. I was simply curious if perhaps there was another motivation considering it's unclaimable public land.
I learn so much from you. I want to try panning, because it looks relaxing really! Thanks dan
Archaic laws/rules. I understand the "heavier equipment", high bankers, sluices, etc. But a detector really does have a lower impact on the environment. Just look at the damage done by those that came in behind.
Every flood does massive re-arrangement of banks, boulders, and gravel. Most rules are BS. In actuality they don't want anyone doing it and are slowly trying to phase it out over time. They make rules knowing they will be broken so they can use breaking those rules as the reason they ban the activity completely in the future. UN agenda's does away with recreational fishing and hunting eventually as well.
@@rogerclaiborne6815 that escalated quickly
I sure do enjoy your videos. They’re entertaining and informative. Very nice work. It shows when people enjoy what they do.
DAN the MAN with the PAN.
Love that you are back here in Kamloops at Tranquille.
YOU ARE RIGHT IN YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT GOLD DETECTORS.
I understand most of this is shovel dirt, remove rocks, pan gold, rinse wash repeat. But MY GWAD it's soooo interesting. Keep up the great work, and informative videos. Wonderful job
You would think if a seasoned prospector like Dan hit a area people would know only scraps are left.
You are the BEST on CZcams! Love the videos. Love the quality of the narrative.
Never stop uploading please it's so satisfying
Nice video Dan! Thank you!
Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Merry Christmas to you and your family, thank you for all the videos they're great.
Thanks Dan for another great video, and a Merry Christmas to all.
Hello Dan, I’m Alonso from Lima, Perú 🇵🇪. I just wanna say that your enthusiasm inspires! I’m very glad I found your channel. ☺️
Thanks for all you videos, they lift my spirts to see all the beautiful locations you work
I found this on the Government web site. Recreational hand panning is strictly limited to the following tools: hand pan and shovel. Recreational hand panning does not include the use of a metal detector. Great Video Just like all of them you won my subscription a long time ago.
My goodness. So much can be missed, someday I hope to be able to do a bit of panning myself. Keep up the great job!
I live 20 mins away from this creek. Love your videos!
Stay amazing Dan!
This video was awesome!!
Thank you for sharing!!
"The shadow of Dan Hurd and the big pit" sounds like a kids book name that introduces kids to gold prospecting in a picture book.
Your videos are extremely enjoyable as well as instructive!
You are the smartest man, that I have ever seen, knowing where to find anything, your videos are awesome
Good to see your back is doing better!
Cant wait Dan, cheers from England
Mineral Titles: Recreational Panning Reserves
The Ministry has created a number of recreational panning reserves around the Province that are open to the general public to use for recreational gold panning.
Recreational hand panning is strictly limited to the following tools: hand pan and shovel. Recreational hand panning does not include the use of a metal detector. Use of a metal detector to explore for mineral or placer minerals is considered a prospecting activity. Section 11(1) of the Mineral Tenure Act requires that only a free miner or an agent of a free miner may enter mineral lands to explore for minerals or placer minerals, which includes prospecting for minerals or placer minerals with a metal detector. The use of sluice or shaker boxes, suction dredges, and other mechanical devices are not permitted. I wonder if this was added just because of you Dan. I love watching your videos. Keep up the good work!
Well. Don't worry about me tearing up any ground where you been. I'm perfectly content sitting in my kitchen sipping tea and watching your videos.
MERRY CHRISTMAS to you and yours, too Dan. I wish you a HAPPY NEW YEAR, too 🎊 it's got to get better than the last one. 👍🤠⛏
Well done Dan. Love that ya took the time to clarify a rules situation. We have the same discussions here in MI. In Michigan rule interpretation goes the route of if it isn't expressly forbidden, it's allowed. Looking forward tonthe next video!
Watching Dan is like watching a cheerful leprechaun showing you just how he got that pot of gold.
I just love you man! Keep posting!
Nice bit of gold Dan. Your prospecting ethics are amazing. Well done on getting to the bottom of a possible loophole. Happy hunting and Merry Christmas 🎄🎄🎄 o
We have a lot of nice creeks out here that I've thought about testing with a pan for fun. I've never done it though, so I'm excited to learn more on your channel to figure out where to start.
I really enjoy watching your videos. Narration is great and it all just works together hand in hand👍☕
Morning Dan , looking forward to your video.
I tell tell myself that one day I will meet you folks.! You and Pioneer Pauly are absolutely amazing.!! I am addicted to the candy as well and you folks have shared such a vast wealth of knowledge I can't even imagine how to thank you.! Father recently passed and we like to go out to the river together and I just love your positivity so it makes things a little easier if you know what I mean.. it's been rough but watching your videos just gives a lot of people hope.! I love what you do, I love what you stand for.! Keep up the great work and God bless.! 💯💪🤜🤛🙏🙏
I admire your positive attitude towards the locals smashing your spots. I have it happen every video.. I’m also having people selling my gps locations.. wait until that starts happening.
Merry Christmas Dan and family , safe new year looking forward to seeing more of your channel
I have been waiting on you to find gold in a paved parking lot...lol.. As always, you are a joy to watch.
Great find !
As always good video Dan. Merry Christmas bud.
I got to say Dan, I love your panning technique.!! 💯😉👍🙏
thank you Dan hope you have a good x mass with the family xx
Looking forward to your next episode 😀
I love this area. Fun place to explore. Thanks again Dan.
What a fun life. Stay safe out there, Dan.
Another good video Dan.... !! Cant wait to get out... this snow is pissing me off :P lol.....sigh!!
Hi Dan Hurd I looking forward more videos of gemstone and gold nuggets! In the past I have learned how to find minerals but not by digging just with my eyes or sixth sense I studied looking at grounds?
Merry Christmas to You and Your Family Dan!! My all Your days be Golden and Bright 🌟
That's awesome that you got the answer strait from the source vs just taking what people tell you as truth
Hay Dan I love your hat. And thank you for all the videos. You sir rock. Beautiful family too
Very cool stuff Dan
Nice finds considering it was all leftovers from other prospectors. Interesting stuff about the metal detecting in your area. I wonder in my region of Virginia (US) how they regulate panning in streams and even the major rivers. I know there are some regulations but I've never heard of areas that are actually claimable. Leave it to me to not know anything about regional laws for a historically booming state for minerals, including the top part of the original gold rush deposit (North Carolina). Always a pleasure Dan!
I'm with you Dan, you would think the less intrusive actions of looking for gold would be allowed. But who knows unless you ask.
It’s hard not to love this guy
Thank you for this video!! Have a great holidays dan!!! Again for the hundredth I CANT WAIT FOR THE GEM A GOLD PAY DIRT!
GONNA GET RICH!!
WITH FUN!!
Thanks for the awesome year of videos!
Awesome adventure Mate Thank you
Love these videoez , you and the gang make me happy