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Debating Nabeel's conversion from Islam to Christianity - Nabeel Qureshi & Yahya Seymour
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- Nabeel Qureshi first appeared on Unbelievable? in 2009 for a dialogue on his conversion from Islam to Christianity with Muslim convert Yahya Seymour. Justin shares this replay of their conversation and reflects on the ministry of Nabeel who died in 2017 from cancer.
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It doesn't feel like 4 years ago. His death still feels recent enough to make my heart hurt when I think about him. He was such a blessing. ❤🙏
Please don't be sad about it anymore, the brother has completed his journey just like our Lord himself finished at 33 years of age. Nabeel left an endurable mark on this world in just a short time. The Holy Spirit will continue to use his legacy to reach out to many lost souls and Muslims to bring them to Himself. Now we still here must continue the race carrying the touch of Christ forward and finish our race too and surely we will because He has called us and chosen us for this purpose and grace is available for us to achieve it. We will see Nabeel and all the saints in the day of resurrection. JESUS IS LORD and He will come back to receive us unto Himself soon and very soon in rapture. Amen 🙏🏾 Maranatha!!!
Nabeel arguments was based on intellectual faith, while Yahya arguments was based on sentimental faith. Intellectual faith will always prevail
RIP Nabeel....... now I’m sure your hearing those words “welcome home my good and faithful servant”
You did so much bringing me to God’s word, thank you, God bless!
Amazing grace
How sweet the sound
That saved a wretch like me
I once was lost
But now I'm found
Was blind, but now I see
Please come to Jesus come to islam ☪️ Jesus a beloved prophet of Islam ☪️
@Aslam A Beautiful Surah (:
🙏🏼🕊
He makes me feel so inadequate as an “old” Christian cause he achieved so much more than me. 😢😢
I miss Nabeel :( . But I am happy he is with the Lord 🙏
Josue Fabian Marona
I miss Nabeel also! He was really amazing! He is with his savior now. :)
@@Docwiz2 your savior is God Almighty.Worship him as per Jesus did and taught you.Otherwise no heaven for you and he never died for your sins.
@@abdirahmanabdullahi9881 The bible teaches us that Jesus is the Son of God and died for our sins, the Quran and Mohammed affirm the bible, now you know the Islam dilemma. Islamic leaders taught the bible has been corrupted, unfortunately there is zero proof of this, since Christans have bibles from the time before Mohammed and the bibles we have now are the same. So your leaders slamic have been lying to you. Pray to God that he might show you the truth.
@Quran Translation - English Only First, do you take the word of Bart Ehrman above that of Mohammed and the Quran? And second, do you comprehent what Bart Ehrman means, when he talks about corruption of the bible?
He is in hell, unfortunately.
Ever since I heard Br Nabeel speaking I have started praying for God to raise up more people like him.
Amen 🙏
@Extremely Logical Smarter Than Everyone Atheist i don’t know if ur usersame is satire or not, its absolutely legendary
By now Nabeel would have realised he was totally wrong in thsi world. but what is the use ? his exam is over
@@fahmafathima5475 How do you know ?
@@fahmafathima5475 have you tested the arguments he retained that led to his conversion? I take it you’re a Muslim, and if you are, know that your own Islamic apologists have found out and agreed that there are holes in your narrative, that the Quran had been perfectly preserved. Even Shabir alli insinuated to such. Check out Yasir Qadhi and his interview about the lie of the perfect preservation of the Quran.
But what do I know? You’d likely let yourself be duped again and lied to by your imams and sheikhs.
Study for yourself!!!
Why do Muslim apologists always resort to scoffing and mocking in a debate instead of focusing on the validity of the argument at hand?
Slander becomes the language of those who have nothing left in a debate
@@LordDirus007 my 6th grade English told me once, "this is how you know you won a debate. When you get them to insult you rather than debating the topic"
Ad honimen
Dishonesty
when i first start to listen nabeel i was a muslim and i only reilized he pass out after i become christians at the start of this year. I wish i could hug that man. He is super cool and good. David is so lucky to have a friend like that.
Nabeel Qureshi never was muslim, wallahi
@@user-be2tw4xg7x ... weird statement... have you even looked into his life. This is a ignorant statement, read up on him first before just making a statement like this
@@erichoceans Well, you tell me what he was, go on, what do you know
Ender Elohim, how wonderful to have you come back home , brother-in-Christ! It sure will be a marvellous fellowship up above!!! Blessings and see you in heaven !!!
@@csmoviles i'm thanksful to god so much for everything and not giving up for a sinner like me. i had to give up mu family but now i have bigger family with christ. God bless you brother. the lord is risen indeed
Nabeel Qurashi has been the most respectful apologetic Christin I have ever known. May rest his soul in peace
Which is why god took him from his own daughter because that’s what happens to con artists
@@Z-Bruhhh You got problems lil bro
@@Z-Bruhhh Like Muhammad didn’t leave his 10 wives behind after being tested by a Jewess? (1 Cor 1:22, Sunan Abi Dawud 4512)
Muhammad was proven to be a false prophet by a random Jew. YHWH bless Zaynab (Deu 18:20-22).
After reading into Yahya’s conversion from Roman Catholicism to Shia Islam and contrasting it with Nabeel’s conversion to “mere” Christianity, I remain intellectually unimpressed to say the least.
Nabeel spent 5 years as a devout Muslim adult trained in the apologetics of Islam trying to debunk Christianity. He then applied that same dosage of skepticism to his own Islamic presuppositions to realise that the apologetic he was formed in was not as intellectually stable as he was led to believe.
In comparison, Yahya didn’t spend more than a few flimsy weeks as a troubled teenager studying Catholic doctrine before dismissing it out of hand and converting to shia Islam because it “felt” right.
I honestly can’t take any man seriously who concluded the doctrines that were formulated, meditated upon, and written about for thousands of years were wrong because of his 2 week long dibble dabble into Catholic theology and bible study.
My thoughts exactly. A teenager dismissing Christianity and finding this new faith compared to Nabeel's journey. Chalk and cheese. Additionally, he seems to be borrowing from Christianity to create this new form of faith. As well, referring to James chapter 2 and misrepresenting its doctrine by quoting "faith without works" just highlights Yahya's lack of knowledge in scripture. Stephen Anderson provides a most comprehensive explanation of James 2.
He died before i got to know of him.I did not know that he was dead though i was following him till i saw it later.infarct i wept on that day as if that was the day he died.NABEEL YOU ARE really a blessing to us.
I am happy to know nabeel is present with the Lord and God saved him just in time
hes rotting in hell for idoltary
"They are not prepared for serious debate"... meanwhile "I forget the name..." "Unfortunately I didn't bring that..." There are other people who you should read..." "I plan on studying that someday" ... its really hard to take Yahya seriously during this.
You know something, and it may sound dumb but this morning I just learned Nabeel had passed away. No matter what, his message has resonated me and the teachings of Christianity. That said I've been raised "Christian" but for years I wasn't as knowledgeable till now, and still learning at at the age of 45. I had what I could say sort of an epiphany, too real to ignore a few years back. I had some knowledge back then but nothing to substantiate why I believed in God and Jesus. As years went on, praying even more and asking for wisdom, you will uncover information and evidence that normally doesn't see the shed of light. I will say thats the Holy Spirit working in you. The scriptures are very strong and if you give the chance by opening up and asking the Lord to help you out, have patience. Patience is the key and it was the one thing I needed to learn as I wasn't a very patient person before.
gO TO EFDAWAH CHANNEL and tell them your side of the story lol your bible is fake !!!
The sovereign who ruled Egypt during Joseph's day is named "King" (Arabic, Malik); whereas the Bible has named him "Pharaoh". The Qur'an never once addresses this monarch as "Pharaoh."The Quran is right here and the bible is in error..so we can assume the bible is wrong in totally lol
@@efdawahfan 103After these, We sent Moses to Pharaoh and his leading supporters with Our signs, but they rejected them. See the fate of those who spread corruption. 104Moses said, ‘Pharaoh, I am a messenger from the Lord of all the Worlds, 105duty-bound to say nothing about God but the truth, and I have brought you a clear sign from your Lord. Let the Children of Israel go with me.’ 106He said, ‘Produce this sign you have brought, if you are telling the truth.’ 107So Moses threw his staff and-lo and behold!-it was a snake, clear to all, 108and then he pulled out his hand and-lo and behold!-it was white for all to see. 109The leaders among Pharaoh’s people said, ‘This man is a learned sorcerer! 110He means to drive you out of your land!’ Pharaoh said, ‘What do you suggest?’ 111They said, ‘Delay him and his brother for a while, and send messengers to all the cities 112to summon every learned sorcerer to you.’ 113The sorcerers came to Pharaoh and said, ‘Shall we be rewarded if we win?’ 114and he replied, ‘Yes, and you will join my inner court.’ 115So they said, ‘Moses, will you throw first or shall we?’ 116He said, ‘You throw,’ and they did, casting a spell on people’s eyes, striking fear into them, and bringing about great sorcery. 117Then We inspired Moses, ‘Throw your staff,’ and-lo and behold!-it devoured their fakery. 118The truth was confirmed and what they had produced came to nothing: 119they were defeated there and became utterly humiliated. 120The sorcerers fell to their knees 121and said, ‘We believe in the Lord of the Worlds, 122the Lord of Moses and Aaron!’ 123but Pharaoh said, ‘How dare you believe in Him before I have given you permission? This is a plot you have hatched to drive the people out of this city! Soon you will see.
Seems like you don't know your own quran..
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@Sacred Warrior Cp destroyed nothing..christians and hindus think because he knows arabic he knows something..bro there is nothing he can do about islam not being the truth ..christianity destroyed itself you know why ?? Because Allah says : “And say: Truth has now arrived, and Falsehood has perished: for Falsehood by its very own nature is bound to perish.” Holy Quran: Chapter 17 Verse 81. Cp should focus on his own religion and why its dying.
What I understood from this conversation is that "Love" is not a lone character, it means relationship. If God is love, I used to wonder how can it be? Because Love means being in close and intimate relationship with the other, it needs to flow-out. Otherwise it sounds narcissistic. Only in the "triune God" the concept of love makes sense to me now. So glad I listened to this conversation🤗
We preexisted in gods existence, god says that in Jeremiah 1:5, he loved us before we even existed, but none is like him
It’s no wonder he converted to Islam, most Catholics aren’t devout. For most Catholics their faith is mostly a tradition or a habit, not a lifestyle.
Awesome conversation so far and I appreciate both men's perspectives, though I have to point out that saying, "I didn't come prepared," is not an argument (around 25:20). It's strange to me that Yahya says it as though it is an indictment of Nabeel's argument rather than a concession.
Edit: I'm actually really bothered by Yahya claiming that Nabeel was "name-dropping," when Nabeel was literally citing his arguments. Nabeel made actual arguments and then cited where they came from. Yahya responded by name-dropping books without explaining any of the arguments, while accusing Nabeel of name-dropping. wut
This was my exact observation Anne. Came unprepared and then criticized the prepared one for being knowledgeable. Discounted his knowledge of Islam, even though he was raised in it and knows it inside and out. Not impressed with Yahya.
Nabeel was very gracious with him, as we should be, but I hope more people understood this. He knew he was coming for a conversation about Christianity vs Islam. But didn’t come prepared. 🤔
My friends..do you have personal experience with God or it's just following the Sharia? With Jesus, He talks to you, you can see Him,he heals.. there's 100% proof in what you believe in.God is not a story.
How can you see a god? and why do you believe in three gods?And why do you people put the cross that was hold in your human god in the church?seriously you guys are just ignorant.
@@itookjiminsheight54 Jesus can reveal Himself to you and u can See Him. We don't believe in 3 gods,but one. A human being is also 3 in 1. Those who worship pictures and crosses are doing wrong.
@@faza4023 وَّقَوۡلِهِمۡ اِنَّا قَتَلۡنَا الۡمَسِيۡحَ عِيۡسَى ابۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ رَسُوۡلَ اللّٰهِ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوۡهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوۡهُ وَلٰـكِنۡ شُبِّهَ لَهُمۡ ؕ وَاِنَّ الَّذِيۡنَ اخۡتَلَـفُوۡا فِيۡهِ لَفِىۡ شَكٍّ مِّنۡهُ ؕ مَا لَهُمۡ بِهٖ مِنۡ عِلۡمٍ اِلَّا اتِّبَاعَ الظَّنِّ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوۡهُ يَقِيۡنًا ۢ ۙ ﴿4:157﴾ بَلْ رَّفَعَهُ اللّٰهُ اِلَيۡهِ ؕ وَكَانَ اللّٰهُ عَزِيۡزًا حَكِيۡمًا ﴿4:158﴾
(4:157) and their saying: 'We slew the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary', the Messenger of Allah191 - whereas192 in fact they had neither slain him nor crucified him but the matter was made dubious to them193 - and those who differed about it too were in a state of doubt! They have no definite knowledge of it, but merely follow conjecture;194 and they surely slew him not, (4:158) but Allah raised him to Himself.195 Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
@@ohnana6661 That book is full of lies
@@faza4023 that’s what you will say now...
MHDSRIP 🙏 🌹 Nabeel was and still is a truly remarkable person.
I'm slightly concerned that Yahya didn't do due diligence - a year is not a long time to examine, Catholicism, Protestantism, Judaism and Islam. The christians he spoke to don't appear to be very well read or indeed informed. Any Protestant who describes the Pope as the antiChrist, would not be someone I'd approach for a rational impression of Christianity.
That's true! Even my parents are old-school and they believe that the pope is the Antichrist😁
While I don't believe the pope to be antichrsit, the position of pope is not biblical in any sense at all
And then he has the gall to insult Nabeel by claiming that he's only speaking to Muslims who don't have a clue what they're talking about. He's incredibly disingenuous and Nabeel had the patience of a saint for tolerating it.
Also, Yahya is a Shi’a who holds wildly different beliefs from the Muslim orthodoxy. Please edit your description to include this detail Unbelievable
shias are the true muslims brother, do research about shiism
*@ Unbelievable*
With all due respect, this was not a debate. It was a discussion about faith from one point in life to another.
Nabeel was simply the best! Brilliant. He is missed dearly!
Hi
Muslims have commented here that the Ahmadi sect of Islam is outside of orthodoxy and it's followers not true Muslims thus making Nabeel's conversion to Christ somehow useless. But his opponent here Yaya, was raised a Catholic, which many Christians consider also not to be biblical and thus many Christians do not consider Catholics to be truly Christian. Does that make his conversion to Islam also useless? To me that makes them both equal. They came out of a tradition of faith that they grew up with and through investigation of some sort came to understand that another Faith was more true. It's common to hear of Muslim converts from Catholicism, which just confirms what many Protestants feel: that the Catholic Church does a poor job of teaching from the Bible the real core tenants of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and add quite a few things that scriptures never taught.
The Key for me is God's Love for humanity. This is expressed in so many different ways throughout the Biblical narrative. Freedom from slavery, The first commandment to Love The Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might and to love your neighbor as yourself . Look after the widow and the orphan . Ultimately it is expressed in God's Son on the cross at Calvary. Nabeel expressed this very simply and illustrated how it is at the core of his belief. God commands us to love Him because he first loved us. Thank you Nabeel, your message will continue to resonate and will, I believe, help bring people of all faiths under the umbrella of God's Love . Praise The Lord!
Why did jesus say on the cross that god forsook him?
This was a great dialogue indeed. I love listening to Nabeel. Qadiani Ahmadiyah are not considered muslims, ddnt know Nabeel was Qadiani. Nabeel always presents strong facts, was really an intelligent guy. I pray that our Creator grunts us all guidance and save us from decievers. I am a muslim and would love christians and muslims to come to common grounds and follow the correct path of Abraham, Isaac, Moses, David, Solomon. No hate to one another, spread love and peace.
You only get peace and love with Jesus. Your holy book doesn't teach this. Only that the unbelievers will be tortured and punished. People of the book will be in hell fire. Allah wills whoever he wants to hell or paradise. You only go to paradise if you fight against the unbelievers and die. (jihad) not once it talks in the quran about love. Sorry Shaibu but you're following the wrong person and faith if you want peace and love. Come to know Jesus for who he is. He lives today and died for you so you can have fellowship with him for eternity. God bless.
@@ceej8582 have u gone through Quran and understood it thoroughly...
@@manzil-e-muraad7732 hi brother, I can't say I've read fully the quran but I've read a great majority of it and currently on "the cave" chapter. It's pretty confusing to say the least. A lot of the stories aren't consistent and contradict the bibles teachings that was practiced and understood thousands of years before Islam. The stories of prophets in the quran is either starting at middle or end with no real context to much of the teachings. Can I ask if you have read the bible?
Abraham, Isaac, moses, david solomon etc had failed. The only person who overcame this world and has never failed was and still is Jesus Christ. I dont know about anyone else, but I would rather follow the One who hasn't and can't fail. Thank you Jesus !
even if muslims don't believe in much of Jesus' greatness, i am more baffled at why they revere Muhammad when he was just mere human and wasn't even a good person. history shows him to be a murderer and had many sexual relations. so why take his word as truth?? that is the one main thing that bugs me.
They think he's a greatman. not sure why either.
Thank you!
A catholic goes to a protestant to understand their faith and then later decides to convert to Islam. I'm confused so I will convert to Judasim.
Miss you brother Qureshi! Can you hear his effort to tell people the good news when he is debating it's not like he is trying to mess with this guy or hurt this guy or anything malicious! He is just stating the facts but the other dude is trying to make him look bad and even make his prior sect of Islam look bad! We need to pray for Yaya!
I don't get what makes the Trinity so hard to understand. You only need two dimensions of Time to accomplish it..Why the story of redemption and atonement works. One is God. Then God becomes Flesh. Then he sacrificed himself for Humanity. Then arose in a new Body. One that is not subject to decay anymore. Why Leonardo da Vinci got it right. As it's outside Space\Time.
Why it has lasted for over 2000 years. As Jesus didn't just proclaim he was God. He showed them that he had the power to overcome Death..No other religion comes close to it.
How your mind believed that 3 persons becomes one.jesus said "Hear O Israel the Lord our God is one Lord" Did he ever taught you Trinity or smth that even close to it
@@abdirahmanabdullahi9881 The Trinity is not mention. It's implied.
God can't appear before humans. As Humans would die the second they see him. Why Moses was allowed to take a peak and it damn near killed him.
So for God to redeem those he created. Past, Present, Future. He became flesh. As he had to die a Physical Death. Redeemed those that had died. That had been prisoners off death. Then he claimed that which was rightfully his through Atonement. As he paid the price for all humanity.
Then he arose in a New Body. That was Spiritual..And I will dwell in their hearts. No longer restricted to a building...This is how God did it. As you need all three to accomplish it..One All Powerful. One Physical Body. One that is the bridge to God..
Why Jesus said. Nobody comes to the Father. Except by me. As I am the Truth. The way and the Life..
So it's not Rocket Science. You need an intermediator between God and Humans.,
@Sittie Nurjannah Sirad Jesus was God. What part you not get.
Me and the Father are one. I sit at the right hand of the Thrown..No man comes before the father but through me..
As God is not a physical thing. Why he become flesh. As Jesus....
By the way. There is no anointment through prophets. You need a Perfect Sacrifice for that. Without blemish.. That would mean Works and Deeds are excluded.
And only Jesus Christ meets that standard.
By the way. I'm not religious. But I'm not ignorant either. I know how it worked. It's plain as day and night or walking and chewing gum...
@@MasterChief-sl9ro وَّقَوۡلِهِمۡ اِنَّا قَتَلۡنَا الۡمَسِيۡحَ عِيۡسَى ابۡنَ مَرۡيَمَ رَسُوۡلَ اللّٰهِ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوۡهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوۡهُ وَلٰـكِنۡ شُبِّهَ لَهُمۡ ؕ وَاِنَّ الَّذِيۡنَ اخۡتَلَـفُوۡا فِيۡهِ لَفِىۡ شَكٍّ مِّنۡهُ ؕ مَا لَهُمۡ بِهٖ مِنۡ عِلۡمٍ اِلَّا اتِّبَاعَ الظَّنِّ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوۡهُ يَقِيۡنًا ۢ ۙ ﴿4:157﴾ بَلْ رَّفَعَهُ اللّٰهُ اِلَيۡهِ ؕ وَكَانَ اللّٰهُ عَزِيۡزًا حَكِيۡمًا ﴿4:158﴾
(4:157) and their saying: 'We slew the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary', the Messenger of Allah191 - whereas192 in fact they had neither slain him nor crucified him but the matter was made dubious to them193 - and those who differed about it too were in a state of doubt! They have no definite knowledge of it, but merely follow conjecture;194 and they surely slew him not, (4:158) but Allah raised him to Himself.195 Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise.
@@ohnana6661 Right... I would not rely on something that was written 600 years later...
As we all know. Jesus Christ was killed. Not even the Romans disputed it. And they were around when it happened. As they had every chance to record what happen...
But nice try...
I want to ask this. If Jesus died on an electric chair, would that mean Christians would wear an electric chair around their neck? How about when people say Jesus is god and he is the son of god. Does that mean God is the son of God. I also heard Jesus prayed to God. Again, Jesus was god? So, God prayed to God? Please don’t be offended, I just wanted to clarify with Christians.
Losterus your questions are masked as intellectual but are really a form of mockery. Regardless, I’ll try to answer your questions. Do you understand the significance of Jesus on earth?
@@ytfig101 yes I think we do understand the significance of Jesus on earth i.e To be a prophet of God and spread his message.
@@Falalalal1122 and why do you believe “we” all understand Jesus to ONLY be a prophet of God? I’m asking because I’ll like you to expand on the qualities that make a person to be considered a prophet in comparison to an average person.
God made himself human in every way. Looking through this perspective helps to understand.
I would recommend reading Nabeels book "seeking Allah, finding Jesus." He mentioned this exact question and how he used to challenge Christians until he found the answers. He articulates the answer far better than I can.
He was never a Muslim; he was an Ahmadi. Just as most Christians consider Mormonism to be heretical, so do we Muslims consider the Ahmadiyyah. Let's at least be honest.
Then, what does an Ahmadi believes what's different from a Muslim?
@Marianne Havisham I would, but Nabeel Qureshi wasn't a Muslim but represented himself as such. He misrepresented that fact intentionally. And now there's a whole community of ppl that believes he was actually Muslim when in actuality he was Ahmadi.
@@jeroenzuidland132 They believe in Mirza Ghulam Ahmed to be another prophet as well the second coming of the Messiah. This belief takes one out of the fold of Islam.
@Marianne Havisham Google it.
Ahmadis are Muslims
Nabeel was never a Muslim, he belonged to ahmadiyyah sect which are outside the fold of Islam, because they have a new prophet, Ahmed kadiani, and in Orthodox Islam to believe that there is a prophet after Prophet Muhammad is disbelief
Nabeel you talk with so much grace humility and intellect and luv.. u r blessed...yahya cant backup his arguments and his non muslim argument is so weak.
says a Hindu lol.
He wasn't a muslim. 🙏
He was ahmadi, they r not Muslim
Please, its that simple.
Ahmadi muslims believe Allah is god and Mohammed is his messangers. Why do sunni and shiites believe they are not? I'm genuinely curious. Ahmadi believe in the same quaran, same hadiths, perform same rituals, memorize quaran in Arabic etc etc.
@@soohapark6215 bcz there prophet is someone else, and there theology is very different from islamic perspective.
@@just-some-muslim well no, all the ahmadis believe is that Mohammed wasn't the final prophet. They literally teach no new religious laws or teachings from other Muslims. So I'm confused when u say their theology is far different. Could you elaborate?
Sooha Park: Trinitarians have the same attitude as Tyrone toward Christians who do not believe the trinity.
@@faithreasons3041??
Wait😟 I thought nabeel died of cancer over a year ago
I believe the description says this was recorded in 2009.
You’re right! Nabeel isn’t dead! I fact he’s more alive than ever! 😁
As a Christian my audacity to proudly proclaim my eternal security and place in the body of Christ comes directly from the true word of God, the holy Scriptures of God.
Eternal security in Jesus Christ!☺️
Jesus payed the price for (ALL MY SIN) at the moment of my “salvation” 🥰 there is no sin left for me to commit that can cause me to lose it. There is one unforgivable sin and that’s blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, and somebody who has received salvation cannot commit blasphemy against the Holy Spirit. So yes once saved always saved praise God my salvation is not in my own hands because if it were I would surely lose it The very same way I earned the wages of death.
Romans 5:12
Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ
12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned-
Eternal life was once in the hands of man remember Adam and eve? Even in their perfected state because they were not born spiritually dead, inheriting original sin as we do, they still sinned and fell. To believe that God Would go through everything that he has for humanity in sending his son, his only son to die for us horribly on the cross to then put that great salvation that his son earned, back into the same hands of his creation that lost in the first place would be a mistake that God cannot make, as he makes no mistakes.
Eternal security😉
Ephesians 4:30 ►
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were (sealed) for the day of redemption.
Who redeems us? 🤔 yes, Christ Jesus, so the seal on our salvation can only be opened and redeemed by Christ. We cannot open the seal of our salvation as to lose it. That’s the point of the verse saying “ sealed,’ why bother sealing it if some sin we commit can just open and undo it ?
John 6:37 ►
All those the Father gives me (will come to me) and whoever comes to me I will never drive away.
(Will come to me) , seems pretty sure doesn’t he. 😊. The verse doesn’t say all that the father gives me will come to me unless they somehow mess up and commit some sin that causes them to lose their salvation. ☺️🙏🏼 and praise God for that. One more ..🤓
Jude 24
King James Version
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you (faultless )before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
The scripture says we have peace with God through Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 5:1-2
Therefore, we have peace with God
5 Therefore, since we have been made righteous through his faithfulness,[a] we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 We have access by faith into this grace in which we stand through him, and we boast in the hope of God’s glory.
How can we have peace with God if we can commit some sin that could cause the loss of salvation. The scriptures says God knows the beginning from the end. So he knows all the sin I will ever commit in my life, yet the Bible says I have peace with God by faith in Christ because of the imputed righteousness of Christ at the moment of my salvation. So knowing that God forgave all my sin past present and future at salvation I have peace with the God that can see all the sin I will still commit after salvation, yet says I have peace with him anyway because of the faith he gave me in Christ Jesus our Lord. 🙌
2 Timothy 2:13
if we are faithless, he remains faithful, for he cannot disown himself.
Himself🤔 yes because the Holy Spirit of God is in us remember. And will never leave us. We may grieve him or quench him to the point he will not guide us but as scripture says, all that the father gives me will come to me, and I will NEVER drive him away.
Now if you have some scripture that seems to teach otherwise, please send it friend and I will show you how it doesn’t.😊. God bless🙏🏼🕊
How about 1 john chapter 1 if we say we have no sin we decieve ourselves and the truth is not with us 🤔
Does its mean even we continue to rape kill and ni repentance up to the last breath. We still go to heaven? Is that what u mean of once saved always saved? Please englighten me
I have two friends who converted from Islam to Christianity because Jesus came to them in their dreams
Lol people see prophet Muhammad and lord buddha in there dreams😂😂😂
😭😭😭😭❤❤❤✝️✝️✝️✝️✝️
The Qur'an says that God promises to preserve the Remembrance in Surah 15, Verse 9. Also we see that the Torah and Gospel were referred to as Remembrance and this is supported by appealing to Surah 16:43, 21:7, 21:48, 21:105 and 40:53-54. Therefore, Surah 15:9 is indirectly, yet clearly stating that the Torah and Gospel have also been preserved. Muslims often claim that the Gospel has been corrupted. The Qur’an, however, tells us that the Gospel is the Word of Allah, and that no one can corrupt Allah’s Word:
Qur’an 3:3-He has revealed to you the Book with truth, verifying that which is before it, and He revealed the Torah and the Gospel aforetime, a guidance for the people, and He sent the Qur’an.
Qur’an 6:115-The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfillment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all.
Qur’an 18:27-And recite what has been revealed to you of the Book of your Lord, there is none who can alter His words; and you shall not find any refuge besides Him.
Muslims, knowing that the Bible is said to be preserved by Allah, listen to Jesus‘s words to you that Allah has preserved from corruption.
Matthew 11:28-30
28 Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
John 6:30-37
30 Therefore they said to Him, “What sign will You perform then, that we may see it and believe You? What work will You do? 31 Our fathers ate the manna in the desert; as it is written, ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’ ”
32 Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, Moses did not give you the bread from heaven, but My Father gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is He who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”
34 Then they said to Him, “Lord, give us this bread always.”
35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.
John 10:30 I and the father are one.
John 14:6 and Jesus replied I am the way, the truth, and the life and no man comes unto the father but by me.
Lastly..
1 John 2:23
“Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” 🙏🏼🕊🫂
JESUS IS GOD🕊
Nabeel was as Muslim as Mormons are Christians. He belonged to the Ahmediyyah movement, a group who are unanimously agreed upon to be non-Muslim by every other group of Muslims.
So, yeah. It matters to know.
fair point, would you say it invalidates his points about traditional muslims though? not being disrespectful just asking :)
@@mrguy7582 Surely it does invalidate.
@@juxtapositionMS Nabeel is the scholar of Quran too.
@@cynthialobo1500 So what? There are lots of "scholars" of Quran in western universities. That's not a criteria for validation. How many valid points could he present in this video? He is just doing some emotional gymnastics. Very naïve.
@@cynthialobo1500 Moreover, he was never a Muslim in first place. He is spreading this "Ex-Muslim" type of propaganda in order to increase his viewers.
Roman Catholics are not Christians, by definition Christians follow Christ alone. 🙏🏼🕊
Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
2 Timothy 3:16-17
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
Nabeel had a plan, and Allah had a plan. Allah is the best of planners.
The original Arabic is best of deceievers. Not planners
@@jenex5608 and what’s your point? That Allah is a lying God? In, 2Thessalonians 2:11 it says (regarding the wicked): “ for this reason, God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.”
Obviously from here we can conclude that when the wicked intend on scheming or deceiving, God is the best of deceivers. It is already set in their heart that they choose to deceive, even after the revelation of Allah (or God) has come down to them. God misleads them to think that their wickedness will reward them; unless of course by some miracle they begin to realize they are wrong and choose to repent.
His conversion from Ahmadiyyaism to Christianity
Stop saying Yaya converted from Christianity: he was a catholic, catholic isn't Christian
Is Nabel speaking of David Wood the sociopath who caved his father’s head in with a ball peen hammer?
Yup
Why are you judging? You’re a sinner also. God is the only judge - do not take Gods role - I am also guilty of doing it. It’s wrong
@@annaasatryan1246 lol why are you judging they then.
@@user-le7ny8bq1l because he can lol.
Judge righteously
@@k.k8247 So then why I can't Judge.
... been involved in deep relationships with Muslims for twenty years, and agree with Nabeel, this belief of Shia is also clearly contradicts a lot of standard Quaranic statements. Islam is truly a work based faith... even as Shia as final salvation isn't ever ensured
I'm confused...so Nabeel was Ahmadiyyah ?
You are correct.
NABEEL IS NOT GONE HE WILL RETURN . HE WILL RISE FROM THE DEAD AMONG THE JUST ON THE LAST DAY
Thank you so much.
Nabeel explored Christianity for many years. Yahyah, studied the main religions only for a year! Not enough intellectual studies, I’m afraid.
Trinity is one of the fundamental belief in Christianity, yet no where in the bible does this word is mentioned.
Jesus neither said he was God nor asked to be worshipped or his mother either.
The Bible talks about Jesus from the time he started his ministry but does not tell us about his life before that.
If someone uses a kitchen knife or a gun to kill your father, would you like to walk with a replica of that weapon hanging in your neck?
How on earth can God hold us responsible for the supposedly sin committed by our very first parents Adam and Eve?
How on earth can God take a revenge of someone else's wrong doing from an innocent person?
This goes against the justice of God.
Was the new testament written by Jesus himself or during his time or through his command?
Is there a single line in the bible under the title of "Gospel According to Jesus"?
The Bible tells us that Jesus was circumcised, he never ate pork and that he observed sabbath on Saturday. But people who claim to follow Jesus do none of these. If anything, Muslims are more closer to Jesus than the Christians.
There are many more questions about bible and Christianity one needs to ponder on.
No one has ever claimed that the term "trinity" is in scripture. It is however so clear through the very terms God himself refers to himself that he is "Echad", One God, declaring himself to be made up of of "parts". Not onve referring to himself as "Yachid" which is singular one ( such a rock ); while "Echad" refers to a Singular item made of parts ( such as a cellphone or car ).
It is most interesting to try describe the creator God, outside of space and time, in human contextual terms.
Salam,
Allow me to go through your points one by one:
The exact word 'trinity' is not found in the bible, correct, but that does not mean that the doctrine is not abundantly clear. There are many passages that affirm this doctrine which is why it is a fundamental belief. Let me know if you need the passages and I can go through them with you.
Once again, even though Jesus may not have said the exact phrase 'worship me' does not mean that we should not worship him as God. And yes, Jesus made many God claims in the bible and if you read the gospels it would be abundantly clear that he claims to be God (let me know if you want me to point you to specific verses). Also, worshiping Mary is blasphemy
Yes the bible does talk about his life before his ministry. Read the first 2 chapters of Luke
We wear a cross because it reminds us of what Christ did for us on the cross so that it is in the forefront of our minds. You must remember that Jesus conquered the cross after he came back to life and him dying on the cross is the pinnacle of his ministry and God's plan of salvation.
God holds us accountable for the sins that WE commit against him. We started sinning when we were children and we still do it as adults. There is not a single human (besides Jesus) who has not sinned (Catholics say Mary has not sinned but I disagree with that). Any sin or disobedience according to God is enough to be judged to be separated from him eternally. After all, how can a human who is even slightly blemished stand in paradise with the one holy God.
This next question is a follow on from the last one. We have been separated from God and the only way is for our sins to be transferred away on a sacrifice. For there to be no punishment for sins would be the opposite of justice. This is what happened in the old testament, the Jews sacrificed unblemished animals to cover their sins in the eyes of God. But these sacrifices were not good enough. This is why Jesus came down to be our sacrifice. Because he is perfect he is the ONLY one who can take on the sins of the world. Our sins were transferred to him and we were in turn made perfectly clean in God's eyes. This is the only JUST way for God to forgive our sins completely. To suggest that we could somehow make ourselves good enough for God disregards the fact that he is perfectly holy and evil cannot stand in heaven with him.
My question to you is what happened to the Jewish animal sacrifices? If Islam is a continuation of Judaism it should have atonement in it. Judaism sacrificed animals, Christians have Jesus as the once-for all sacrifice, but where is it in Islam? Did God just forget it?
Not a single word of the bible was written by Jesus himself. Instead, the 4 gospels (books about Jesus' life) were written by two of his disciples (Matthew and John) and two people who heard from other disciples (Mark and Luke). These people transcribed Jesus' words and actions which we can read today.
I already answered this, no
As a Jew, Jesus was circumcised and never ate pork, correct. (observing the sabbath has its own story which I won't go into) The reason that some Christians aren't circumcised is well documented and if you want to look it up you can quite easily (it is all in the bible). As for eating pork and other dietary restrictions, Jesus said that it is not what goes into a man that makes them uncelean, but what comes out. Paul writes extensively on this if you want to look it up.
No, Muslims are not closer to Jesus that Christians and to suggest so is completely wrong. There are good biblical reasons for Christian practice and we follow what Jesus taught and prophesied very carefully. For example, he prophesied that he would die and be raised again on the third day (Matthew 16:21 and John 2:18-22)
If there are any further questions, just ask :)
If any of these questions are inadequate or you still have a problem just let me know and I would be happy to go over and answer whatever you want.
P.S. I notice that several of these questions are identical to those asked be people such as Zakir Naik and Ahmed Deedat. I just want to say that they use very deceptive language to seem like they are 100% correct. For example the requirement of Jesus directly saying 'worship me', even though it is abundantly clear to anyone who reads the bible that we are to worship him, Jesus himself does not say those exact words.
57 So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?”[b] 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
Anyone who knows anything about the Hebrew religion, you claim the "I am" you are referring to God. When Moses asked Gods name, God responded "I am, that I am". this a blunt straight forward evidence Jesus called himself God.
He spoke the truth 🙏 Thank you for sharing
Our God Jehovah is a Good Holy, and Powerful God, He has revealed Himself to us and to Nabeel Qureshi. By His grace Our Muslim brothers will come to Jesus. Because the error in Islam is being reviled as i2ministry is helping us to preach to Muslim.
Listen people, this person nabeel qureshi was not a Muslim, A Muslim is one who believes that Muhammad (PBUH) is the last Prophet (obviously also the last apostle) of Allah Almighty..
Chapter#33, Verse#40 of Quran: Muḥammad is not the father of any man among you, but he is the apostle of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets, and Allah has knowledge of all things.
Whereas, this person belonged to ahmadiya/qadiani, who say that there was another apostle, mirza gulam ahmed, after the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)... that's why they're not Muslims..
only they call themselves muslim; no one else in the world calls them muslim..
Thats a contradiction your own writing, if your Prophet said the Torah and the Gospel are the word of the word Allah. Then Christ is the Messiah and your Prophet does not mean anything. Your own book created a paradox, an obvious human created problem. Allah never is wrong and changes his word so you cant argue otherwise you are not following your own book. You are logically screwed. Christ is Lord, your own God says so, its over.
Go Nabeel. Thank God you were saved! Hallelujah!
Missing Nabeel 😢
Nabeel helped me to understand The difference between Mormonism and true Christianity. Mormonism is very similar to Islam. I was Mormon for 50 years… it was reading Nabeels book that opened my eyes to the philosophical similarities between Islam and Mormonism.
wow!!
In all of the following verses, and "many" of other verses of the Quran, Allah Almighty is clearly saying that torah, psalms, gospel, and all other revelations of Allah Almighty except Quran had been corrupted by people..
Chapter#2 Verse#2
Chapter#4, Verse#105
Chapter#15, Verse#9
Chapter#3, Verse#19
Chapter#3, Verse#85
Chapter#4, verse#157
Chapter#4,Verse#171
Chapter#9, Verse#30
Chapter#3, Verse#59: Verily, in the sight of Allah, the case of Jesus is like the case of Adam, whom He created with dust and then said to him, "Be," and he was. Here, Allah Almighty is saying that, the case of Jesus (PBUH) is like the case of Adam (PBUH), It means that, Adam (PBUH) had neither mother nor father, if Jesus (PBUH) had no father, then what happened..
Chapter#2, Verse#163
Chapter#2, Verse# 255
Chapter#14, Verse#52
Chapter#16, Verse#51
Chapter#112, Verses (1-4).. that is it...
Adam Seeker is carrying the torch for Nabeel
Ravi will always be the greatest but Nabeel was the best
@marwanmohd1 Ravi was a very eloquent and knowledgeable teacher and evangelist. More importantly, he most certainly not a joke. Disagreeing with his teachings can be stated without insult.
I hope another Nabeel Qureshi will come. May be a devout Jew or Hebrew to Christianity, and be a Christian Ambassador.
Love the conversation.. it is really rare listen to sound ex christian apologetic.
Willy Illuminatoz, you should listen to Ravi Zacharias and any one his team ofApologists 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@@clanjackable , Nabeel was one of Ravi's apologet..
Willy Illuminatoz, I know, he was amazing to listen to; I’ve learnt so much from these guys 🙏🙏
@@clanjackable I glad Nabeel encountered Jesus.. that's such a priceless moment in life..
But how can people continue to still follow a religion where their main prophet says he is not sure if he will make it to heaven, who fought wars amd killed people amd beat his wife and married several women including a child. How can such person be a religious standard to follow? 😔🙁
My people perish for lack of knowledge (Hosea 4:6). People believe whatever their imam or sheikh tells them. Nabeel sought out for the truth and he found it and fully embraced the Lord who created Him and who gave Himself for his sins on the cross and resurrected for our justification. Praise the Lord. Alleluyah!!!
They're told to not question Mohammed whatever he did is hallal. They're not allowed to live that cult or else they must be murdered, it's really sad😢
7:14 "practice reading the 5 prayers"???? you dont read the 5 prayers, you DO the 5 prayers
Why catholics are not taught to study the Bible ?
Not sure... Maybe because they are encouraged to go to the Pope for instruction ... They added the Apocypha
And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life
1 John 5:20
How sure arevyou he is with the creator??
100% SURE NABEEL IS WITH THE CREATOR AND POSSESSOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH .
NABEEL WAS A FOOL FOR CHRIST AS I AM TODAY.
WHO'S FOOL ARE YOU ?
Yahya though a revert still has a lot of Catholicism influence in his approach
Nabeel Qurashi was not Muslim he was Ahmdiya Qadani movement they believe in an Indian “prophet”Muslims consider them none Muslims , he went from sort of darkness to a worse darkness worshiping a middle eastern man as his God
The Holy Prophet Muhammad Mustapha (sallalaho alaiye wa sallam) said:
"Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have."
Narrated Anas bin Malik, in Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387
But the question remains: did he believe the core tenets of Islam or not? Throwing the 'he was Ahmadiya and so not real muslim' is grasping for straws and not bringing any true explanations as to why his conversion is somehow "illegitimate"
CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE FOUNDED IN GRECO-ROMAN MYTHOLOGY AND PHILOSOPHY: According to Christian doctrine, Jesus was the result of the deity impregnating a married virgin whose deity sired son was tortured to death by his divine sire so this son could become a cursed scapegoat. Mary was betrothed/married to Joseph and Joseph was the father of Jesus according to synoptic gospels of Matthew and Luke. Betrothal in Judaism is marriage. Betrothal is the first part of the two part process of Jewish marriage, which creates the legal relationship without the mutual obligations. In Hebrew it is called: kuddushin (sanctification). Kiddushin is far more binding than an engagement as we understand the term in modern English. Once kiddushin is complete the women is legally the wife of the man. The relationship created by kiddushin can only be dissolved by death or divorce. However the spouses do not live together at the time of the kiddushin, and the mutual obligations created by the marital relationship do not take effect until the nisuin is complete. The nisuin (elevation) finalizes the marriage process. The husband brings the wife into his home where they begin their married life together.
According to the gospel of John, Jesus was the 'only begotten son' of the deity (John 1:14, 18; 3:16, 18; 1 John 4:9). According to the Merriam Webster Dictionary beget means : "to procreate as the father : SIRE" According to this dictionary, beget means: "typically of a man, sometimes of a man and a woman, to bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction." Mary was the married virgin upon whom the deity sired a son by overshadowing her according to the Gospel of Luke 1:35. This scene is a reflection of Zeus' impregnation of the virgin Danae upon whom he begot the demigod Perseus. Jesus as the 'first born of God' derives from Philo of Alexandria's Logos who was called by Philo "the first-born of God." This philosophy is repeated in Colossians 1:15-20 which says that Jesus is " is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation." Since, according to Paul, Jesus existed before creation, then his sire was God.
So, the Greco-Roman idea of a deity impregnating a married virgin to beget a son he planned to torture in order for that son to become a cursed scape goat makes sense to Christians? And the personification of Philo of Alexandria's Platonic demiruge/Logos in the person of the Palestinian prophet, Jesus, also makes sense? So, Christians accept that Christianity is founded in Greek mythology and the Platonic philosophy of Philo of Alexandria and not in the Torah or Tanakh. One wonders why they bother reading the Bible at all. Homer's tales of Greek heroes, gods and demigods would be more in line with their doctrines than the books attributed to the Old Testament prophets.
Get over yourself. This weird theological fanfiction is utterly embarrassing.
Jehovah's Witnesses are Not Christians
The Jehovah’s Witnesses belief that Jesus is Michael the Archangel and is different from the Biblical View of Christ.
The Watchtower Teaching that Jesus is “NOT the mediator for All Mandkind” prevents Jehovah’s Witnesses from receiving forgiveness of sins.
There is not a single verse in the Bible that supports the Watchtower teaching that only 144,000 people go to Heaven.
And the list goes on.. pray for them 🙏🏼🕊
He was was never a Muslim he was an ex Ahmadiyya not an ex Muslim
I break every chain keeping Muslims from leaving the islam cult. Be free in Jesus mighty name I pray
If Allah forgives sin without atonement then he is NOT God because God is righteous. Forgiving sin without atonement is unrighteousness. By the atonement work of Jesus Christ, God can forgive us AND remain righteous. That's why Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to TRUE forgiveness of sin. I pray with all my heart and spirit, that Yahya Seymour realizes that there is NO other salvation then the salvation of THE LORD, Yeshua (Meaning salvation) the Christ that is made possible by the atonement through Yeshua (Jesus) Christ. From the beginning of time, people who believe in God have believed in HIS Salvation (Yeshua) and have been saved by their belief in Yeshua before He was manifested as a PERSON (while still BEING God) to fulfill the work of atonement. 2022 years ago, the Salvation (Yeshua) walked the earth (John 1:14 / And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.) And even then many did not recognize Him (John 1:10-13 / 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God). Therefor I pray for Yahya Seymour and EVERY other human being that does not believe, that they may believe in His name, so that He becomes their Yeshua(meaning Salvation)! And I pray for all people who do not understand the "trinity" that they may come to understand that God is 1 in BEING, and 3 in PERSON. So all 3 persons are the same BEING (that's why they are 1 and why each is His own PERSON but still the same BEING > GOD). I thank Nabeel for everything that he has shared and done on this world and my heart rejoices that he is right now in the kingdom of God, with our LORD and our GOD, praising our LORD and our GOD! Nabeel is not dead, he is alive forever in Yeshua Christ! I thank God for every saved soul! Amen!
Nothin against him But Ahmaddiya arent muslims that he portrayed himself in the media
Yayha be goin' hard on the Qadianis brah lol
that answers it catholics arent christians
He never was a Muslim as he was from a Ahmadi or Qadiani background. Him pretending to be a Sunni Muslim at variuos times is ridiculous. He can't even pronounce basic Islamic words.
Well, i checked his education background that in fact he never studied about Islam either. I bet his knowledge about Islam compared to the orientalist scholar was far far away
the 'evidence' from the new testament on any of those 3 fundamentals - sonship, atonement thru crucifixion and resurrection are just words written decades after Jesus disappeared. if you're truly interested, check out Bart D Ehrmann's work.
Bart has been Decieved and chooses to remain an atheist. He is of the world and believes that of the world. No need to seek him nor his lectures.
Bart has been Decieved and chooses to remain an atheist. He is of the world and believes that of the world. No need to seek him nor his lectures.
@@lauraowen8142 your hilarious response makes me want to "seek out his lectures" even more
I love Yahya Seymour
Can't tell the difference between Muslim eschatology and Christian eschatology.? Both these guys will resurrect physically at the end of time which may happen in million or billion years time!
What's a trillion years next to eternity?
Christianity as “all I have to do now is sit back and love God” is not accurate. We are called to good works rigorously by the Lord Jesus, St Paul, St Peter, St James, St John, etc. We may, in faith, rest in His redemption, but we are redeemed to grown in oneness with Him in the Spirit - constant repentance. If Muhammed said “Lord, have mercy!” 70x daily, for a Christian it ought to be in every breath.
atleast someone said the truth :) and that is the truth about all religions.... Christianity, Judaism and Islam....none of them asks u to sit back, have pop corn and think i love God and thats it..... You ought to become better every day, strive in his way and stop those who are evil and hurt others....but what are we all doing? just fighting over petty issues and claiming each other to be wrong.... why dont we come to a common term that we should worship one true God....and help each other in every phase of life...
That’s right Usman and Tracey. It’s not just sitting back and loving God. In Christianity, after that the bible says “those who love me will obey my commands”. That’s not just the Ten Commandments, neither is it a set of rules of things we have to do religiously. Doing that does not earn us salvation. Doing good works becomes a natural attribute of a believer who has accepted the Holy Spirit which means it’s not by our doing, but God who helps us be more kind and loving to bring more people to him, not because doing that makes us better to Him. He loves us unconditionally already.
@@simisolaowoyemi1325 100 % agreed....very well explained.
@susan didary i didnt understand ur point.... plz elaborate
@susan didary oh ok, now i got it. Yeah exactly...we are on the same page...i thought may be you are trying to say something else...i didnt understand first...yes thats the truth ....God is God and Jesus is Prophet...its simple as it is
This moderator is very irritating to listen to. Please interrupt when absolutely needed to. Seems like he just wanted to ask his own personal questions. Not a debate at all. Moderator didn't even state the specific type of Muslim the Muslim guy was which ruined Nabeels arguments.
My opinion the "Muslim" convert seems lost and believes what appeals to him instead of seeking Truth.
Nabeel Qureshi never was a muslim, as he claims, and this muslim convert seems really lost too, its like two little kids talking about politics
Neither Ahmadiyya NOR Shi'izm is considered among Muslims. Please study the difference between Islam vs Shi'izm vs Ahmadiyyah vs any other puppet who tries to hide their idiology behind Islam and Muslims.
Please educate me, what is the true Islam then?
Please enlighten me why shiism is not islam, I’d firmly disagree with you and say that after studying Islam shiism was a much stronger argument then sunnism! Hence why I’m shia
@@shia_ameli313 Shiasm is considered deviant in Sunni circles. However theres a debate whether the majority of zaidis are deviants or not and most agree that they're not except one particular sect mostly based in north Yemen.
And Zaydis were the earliest Shias whereas Twelver was something later brought and Twelver has alot of shirk like they do tawaaf and worship some of the shias, those shias are not muslims similar to those Sunnis who worship graves. ( however If they dont know that they're doing wrong then I'm not sure we can call them non muslims). And it's funnyy you say shiasm is stronger whereas most apostates from Islam are from Iran who are apostates.
And Shiasm is not an argument, they are those people who revolted against the Umayyads I think and that's a highly sensitive issue on which I don't want to go like the Battle Of Camel. The difference is while we acknowledge that wrong things happened and we always said that the leaders were not infallible and they did mistakes but shia have some conspiracy theories on this....
@@tomphilips3266 What Sunnis think of Shi'a is not relevant. Sunni Islam was created in the Abbasid period more than 200 years after the Prophet's death and is a confused group of ideologies made of multiple clashing and inconsistent theologies and schools of fiqh. It became the majority practice of Muslims as it was imposed upon the masses by the Abbasids and the Seljuks. Most people follow their governments and the 'official' teaching in the mosques. However that is not the Prophets original path.
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@@tomphilips3266 Zaydis were not the first Shi'a group, you don't seem to have properly researched Shi'a history. The Prophet not only said that his successor was Ali, but also said that he will have 12 successors, all of whom would be from the Quraysh and Bani Haashim. All of the Muslims who accepted this and disagreed with the decision at Saqeefa were technically Twelver Shia's. There are dozens of famous companions who belong to this group as well as many more from the succeeding generations. Historians did not apply the term 'Shi'a' until after Imam 'Ali's caliphate, but it is clear from reliable ahaadith that those Muslims who supported the leadership of the Prophet's household were known as Shi'as (ie true 'followers' of the Prophet) from the earliest Islamic period. The Zaydis came later as a breakaway group from the Twelvers, due to rejecting the leadership of the 5th Imam.
Sunni Islam, by contrast, had no identity in the early period of Islam, hence why no early Muslim is known as a 'Sunni' -the whole concept of 'Ahl al-Sunnah wal-Jamaah' was created gradually, with its early notions in the Umayyad period, but only properly constructed and consolidated in the Abbasid and Seljuk period.
The Muslim guy is obviously uninformed aout Islam. Hence the attacks on Nabeal, who is MUCH more prepared & informed. Grace does not exist in Islam, period!!
I miss nabeel
pls don't... soon u will b with him...
I miss nabeel qurashi😪
RIP Nabeel
🙏🙏
If Yahyah debated Christian Prince he will immediately realise how deluded he was converting to Islam, how false Islamis.
Nabeel wasn't even from mainstream Islam - he was Ahmadi
Followed the Quran and Allah....
Nabeel's argument is fallacious. He is basing it on people assigning Godhood to Prophet Christ and then making the claim that no one disclaimed it. What a poor argument. People are people - fallible creatures. I don't base my faith on what people say or don't.. Why should anyone go by hearsay. I don't go by what people say for me to accept Islam. I read the Quran, it is the word of God, not man. Every letter in it. And reading the Quran establishes that fact, and convinced me, not what X or Y or Z said. The Bible is a collection of different people's versions over years and years. It has a motley of contradictions and I don't mean just metaphorical contradictions, real contradictions that no one can explain. Then so called scholars over centuries (300 years according to David Wood) deduced the trinity. (you can see his claim in his debate with Muhammad Najib) There is nothing in the Bible for an outsider who has a sane mind, with even basic intellectual competence to come to the conclusion that there is any sort of Trinity. That just proves my point, that people (or so called scholars) are making that claim, not Jesus. If I make any claim about Islam verbatim, I make it because God has in the Quran, not because any scholar sees fit to give it a wild interpretation or misinterpretation or extrapolation.
It's not fallacious make sense
@@jenex5608 Yep you sure proved your point. I am covinced :)
@@AH-ky7xb My point is Nabeel is based on the Bible and evidence where it leads
You don't understand what the word "deduce" means. Deducing something doesn't mean someone made up an idea or concept out of thin air. It means they've watched and observed some evidence and come to a conclusion about what's behind the evidence. For instance do you believe there's such a thing as gravity? It was Isaac Newton who first deduced the concept of gravity and put a name to it. He didn't invent gravity. It exists, it's a real thing. But no one had actually given it a name as a real measurable Force. He deduced it from watching nature and when an apple fell from a tree, he realized there's an invisible force that draws everything down to the ground on this planet. If a bird stops flying it will fall to the ground. If you throw a rock in the sky it only goes so far and then it falls down. Everything goes down, water always follows the path of least resistance downward. There's a force that causes everything to go downward on this planet, which allows us to be even be able to walk on it step by step without floating off into space. Isaac Newton deduced this Force existed by meditating on the fact that everything always goes downward if you let it go it's natural course other than going upward. The Trinity was deduced from the scriptures in the New Testament. God the father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit are mentioned numerous times in conjunction with each other throughout all of Jesus's teachings, and repeatedly through all the letters of the New Testament written by his disciples and apostles. When David Wood says the Trinity was deduced it means the Trinity always existed and was evident throughout all the scriptures but no one had ever put a name to that concept. When you look at the concept of God the father, of Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit on the scripture passages, they are hanging around each other. You can't really find one mentioned without the other close behind. They always come in a set together. You never have them spoken of a separate from each other for long. When one is mentioned the other two are very close behind. Read the scriptures for yourself. Read all the letters and the gospels of the New Testament. They are always there hardly ever are mentioned alone but always in conjunction with each other. The early church fathers saw this and realized it meant something important. You could not separate these three from each other, the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit. They worked together in unity and with the same purpose and message. Therefore they deduced the Trinity. It exists. It's a real Force.
@@Butterfly-truth your simply trying to give a plausible but incorrect explanation, which isn't true. You have set aside my argument and are giving the appearance of rebutting it but you haven't actually done so. Your analogy is wrong to begin with. You are comparing metaphysical aspects to facts like gravity. It didn't take Newton to come and deduce gravity or give it a name. People thousands of years before newton knew of the existence of gravity. What I stated was that there was no such thing as Trinity in concept (leave aside the name or semantics) for the first 300 years. People didn't go about preaching the Trinity for the first 300 years in whatever name you want to give it. So if as you mention the Trinity was so obvious in the Bible, people for the first 300 years who were the staunchest followers failed to mention the concept in the form it exists today????. Your comparing it to gravity and newton to explain your point is baseless. The two are totally different concepts. Gravity is a mathematical concept that Newton gave a mathematical equation to. If you put half the world in a room and asked them to come up with the laws Newton came up with, nobody would have been able to, cuz they aren't smart enough. Religion doesn't work that way. Christian Scholars armed with the BIBLE didn't exist for the first 300 years?? I am talking about the concept of Trinity, not the word. The concept didnt exist on a wide scale and there were different versions of it. There were versions and versions of it. So apparently God wants to be vary vague in the BIBLE, and goes right to the point in the Quran, where He states "Say, “He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge, He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent." But hey, you are free to worship who you want according to your reasoning. I am not debating that. I am simply debating Nabeel's absurd logic of how he came to the conclusion that the the Trinity is true. Let us put it this way. If a Muslim gave such an explanation as Qureshi did, I would not accept it. If it really irked my senses, I would go and read the Quran for myself, which I have done. And I have also read the parts of the Bible that Christians rely upon to "deduce" the Trinity.
4:01 you’re welcome.
Thank you!
Nabeel be blessed
Still waiting for updated version of bible 1.45 where Jesus peace be upon him say am the god worship me.... Lol
Sooooo regular people killed a god right?
And bible is his word
Not accurding to luke or david or jhon
Does a King goes round proclaiming that he is a King?
It's the people who know him but that tells others about the king.
So, we do to Jesus, who know him and have encounter with him. We talk with him and he with us. It REALITY, no figment of imagination. It is others who will see a prophet and and proclaim him as such and not himself. It is the person's works that become his identity.
It is by the Spirit of God that the Word of God is discerned and become flesh in our lives.
Christianity is a Living and Loving encounter of the Living God.
Human knowledge and understanding cannot make us meet God.
Speak english dirt child
He passed away
JESUS CHRIST WAS VERY MAN AND VERY GOD WALKING ON EARTH AMONG MEN .
JESUS IS LOVE HE PREACHES LOVE FORGIVENESS JOY RECONCILIATION .
MUSLIMS RELIGION IS NOT BASED ON LOVE AND FORGIVENESS WHEN THEY ROBBED PEOPLE IN THEIR COUNTRIES OF THEIR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM .
IF MUSLIMS WORSHIP GOD BECAUSE THEY LOVE HIM, WHERE IS THE MERCY GOD REQUIRES OF THOSE WHO LOVE HIM DEMONSTRATED IN THEIR LIFE STYLE ? ,WHY DO THEY IMPRISONED ,KILL ,TORTURE ANY ONE WHO GOD LOVES AND THEY CHOOSE NOT TO WORSHIP AS MUSLIMS DO IN THEIR COUNTRY ?.
WHERE IS THE LOVE OF GOD DEMONSTRATED IN ISLAM WHEN A MAN MARRIES A CHILD , OR DEMONSTRATE HONOUR KILLING ON THEIR OWN FAMILY MEMBERS OR ROB WOMEN OF THE RIGHTS GOD GAVE THEM.?
Nabeel was an Ahmadiya, not a Muslim. He was a very slippery character who was an expert at monopolising the clout that came from his claim of “ex muslim”
And in the first minute that Nabeel starts to speak he refers to himself as Ahmaddiya and he mentions that most Muslims would not consider them 'real' Muslims and they are considered controversial. The other guy then affirms that view of them not being accepted as real Muslims. Did you even watch that far?
@@littleboots9800 Not most Muslims, no Muslim consider Ahmadiyyas as Muslim. But he was using it , because he knew that more people would listen to him and take him serious
@@sinstarkol7973 But THEY consider themselves Muslims so call themselves Muslims. They follow the 5 pillars, believe in the 6 articles and follow the Islamic sources of jurisprudence and guidance, the quran, sunnah and hadith. They accept Muhammed as the best model for mankind who brought God's final and perfect message for mankind.
It's really this issue of the identity and acceptance of the messiah, (Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad for them,) that is the real issue other Muslims can't get past,
Jehovas Witnesses call themselves Christians. The majority of other Christians, including myself, do not agree that they are, but we can't stop them saying it, they genuinely believe it, even if we think they are wrong.
Every muslim is a slipperry character like their prophet..piss be upon him
Ya he said that in his introduction and even Yaya said he is in favour of how they were not consider pure Muslims, if you watch it further he also said that he's not a passive Muslim but actively engaged and involved in his faith with others starting from his school days.
21:30 Nabeel says Romans 10:9-10 depicts the 3 tenets of Christianity are 1. Jesus died on the cross 2. He raised from the dead 3. He is God. I question # 3 as Jesus not only never claimed to be God the entire New Testament is a testimony that he was distinctly a seperate individual from God with his own seperate thoughts consciousness and will from God and all of the Old Testament makes it very clear that God is one God. Nabeel is making an all too common and classic mistake of trinitarin Christians of inserting the trinity into the bible when it very clearly in Romans 10 9/10 talks about Jesus and God seperately and in no way here or anywhere else does scripture interchange the two in names to mean the other, as Nabeel carelessly does with his "3rd tenet". Jesus Christ is the son of God and cannot be God, 2 cannot be 3, a triangle is not a circle. I am a unitarian Christian and I wish for all my triniatrian brothers and sisters to please deeply study and analyze the man-made doctrine of the trinity that has thrown a cloak of deception over the religion of Christianity from the truth and integrity of God-breathed scripture. God bless you all.
See you in heaven bro. Nabeel
35:16
Why would someone steeped in one kind of nonsense trade it in for another kind of nonsense? Is it because they've been so throughly gaslighted by religion that they're incapable of thinking any other way?
I'm thinking the same of you sir. 🤔
Christianity does have sense .
@@Josuefabiann
Are you implying that I was also gaslighted by religion? That makes no sense. You must be one of those who's willing to believe nonsense; presumably on faith.
@@Reno_Slim and no arguments against God or for non-religious worldviews have been brought forth...
@@antonioc78
Yeah...that's an ongoing problem.
Ok this us wrong, YAYAh the Philippine guy is was not Christian, he was a Roman Catholic. So, he converted from Roman Catholicism to Islam. This guy who interviewed them, needs to have this clear or investigate who is who. Catholics are not Christian is that is why he couldn’t clearly understand what Nabeel was saying. And the person who conduct this radio show is probably a none Christian or Muslim that’s why he doesn’t know the difference.