IMPORTANT!!! Apologies, Mortefi does NOT work with Jinhsi exactly the way I explained in the example team cycle, but that doesn't change his status as one of the best SubDPS options for Jinhsi. At the moment, his ult only procs with basic attack and heavy DAMAGE, even though it says HITS. Since Jinhsi rarely uses basics or heavy attacks, this means that as far Incandescence generation goes, the majority of your Mortefi's Coordinated attack's value will have to come himself. This means you should use Mortefi's ult at the start of his rotation, and make sure you get at least 5 seconds of value from his ult before swapping to Jinhsi. If you have Mortefi's S1, you don't even have to worry about the 5 seconds, and can just follow his ult with the standard skill-BAC-skill-outro rotation, since Jinhsi's skill 2 and 3 will proc his coordinated attacks. If for whatever reason you find that you're a few stacks shy of full before using Jinhsi's s4, you can add an additional BAC to Mortefi's rotation. Note that most standard Mortefi builds will not have enough Energy Regen % to reliably ult on every cycle without spending extra time on field. To remedy this, either spend more time on field with Mortefi, or use ER% 3 costs and/or weapons. TL;DR - Use Mortefi's ult at the start of his rotation.
Oooo unlucky you missed the 50/50, but grats on the early pull after. Really jealous about Yinlin+Stringmaster! Have you had a chance to try out your Jinhsi team yet?
You need Morteffi at S5 for a better Jihnsi stack generation. I think, if Mortefi not at S5 consider using a character with strong solo time instead, so that character can deal damage while slowly filling Jihnsi's stack.
@@DisIngRaM Thanks for the insight! Honestly, I'm having no troubles getting 50 Incandescence for Jinhsi with S1 Mortefi, even with only fielding him for the duration of his short rotation (ult-skill-bac-skill-echo-outro) Without S1, you don't get his coordinated attacks for using Jinhsi's S2 and 3, so it's likely best to add 1 more bac, but I'd still recommend him over a solo on field dpser like encore or whomever, since at BEST characters without coordinated attacks can only generate 1 stack per second, but Mortefi can do 3 per second. Yuanwu however, is an excellent, easy to use alternative that can easily drop his skill for coordinated attacks, offers slight knockdown resistance, and the vibration damage really does help setup safe burst windows for Jinhsi. He's probably easier to use than S0 Mortefi, but Mortefi is a 4*, getting a single copy in the future is pretty likely, so it's entire a playstyle preference, imo.
You have some of the most thorough and well explained guides I've seen. Period! There's clearly a lot of effort you put into your videos. From using relevant gameplay video, to simplifying kits with easy to understand descriptors, to the structure of the video that builds upon itself in levels of complexity. Really hope you get more subs because you deserve it
Thank you so much for the kind words, it really means a lot to me! My goal is to present information in a structured, easy to digest manner to make characters more approachable, so your comment warms my heart
I've been waiting for your guide on her! None of the others do it for me anymore. Edit : Yep, knew it. Best guide out there with actual info that I haven't seen most, if not all, other ccs even bring up. 10/10.
Very good guide! Little something that’s been going around, Yuanwu being a Gauntlet means that he can run the Originite series gauntlet, and use its healing to activate the Rejuvenating Glow set. This allows Verina to take the Moonlit Clouds set instead - while a bit unconventional, it frees up Yuanwu’s field time to be extremely short, and with Verina’s quick Concerto gain, maximizes Jinhsi’s field time.
S2 isnt confusing at all. Out of combat has never meant just off the field in any game. Your whole team is either in combat or not. Off the field effects will specifically say that. People just chose to ignore the obvious out of copium.
Great video as always. Keep posting more guides. Thanks for all the detailed info. On another note, it was hilarious i kept hearing you said Baizhi's name an idiot (sounds like in Mandarin). lol...
21:10 Her ult cooldown is 25 seconds, I think it is better to insert her ult earlier in her rotation. Right after Intro or after echo? Also Jue as Echo, deal tick elemental damage to affected foes for 15 seconds, which actually contributes to Jihnsi's stack. TLDR, you can use Echo just before SKILL4, to gain extra Jihnsi stack when introing into another NON-SPECTRO character, in which case, should be a decent alternative instead of echoing early.
Wherever you use it, as long as use it around the same time, it shouldn't matter too much, but I've been starting to just blast it whenever it comes up And yeah that is a really good option as well regarding jue and stacks!
Thank you for this amazing guide! I got really lucky with my pulls and got her at 20 pity. I was just going for the 4*s. I did another 10 pull to hope for more 4*s and ended up getting another copy. Guess it's time to build her haha
Thank you! Unfortunately no, mid air dodges in your base stance will follow up with the plunge attack, and dodging during Incarnation won't expedite your BAC either.
Hey can u help me to decide which support is the best for me to use, rn i have mortefi S0 and yuanwu S4 so should i still go with mortefi or choose yuanwu? I also gonna use baizhi as healer since my verina and yinlin is used by calcharo
I'd probably go with Yuanwu in your situation! With S0 Mortefi, you'll want to add like 2-3 extra seconds of field him for him during is rotation, which is basically like a basic attack combo. WIth S1, you can just do the normal quick rotation of (ult-skill-BAC-skill-echo-outro), and your stack generation should be of no issue! I responded to a similar question before, so I'll paste the relevant bit here: Yuanwu however, is an excellent, easy to use alternative that can easily drop his skill for coordinated attacks, offers slight knockdown resistance, and the vibration damage really does help setup safe burst windows for Jinhsi. He's probably easier to use than S0 Mortefi, but Mortefi is a 4*, getting a single copy in the future is pretty likely, so it's entire a playstyle preference, imo.
sorry i haven't played around with jinhsi much but from each one of her rotations can you expect to get full concerto energy for the outro/following characters to generate stacks easier? or are we only able to achieve that because we have unison so we can fill the concerto gauge every other rotation? thank you in advance 🙏 these guides are extremely helpful for rotations, this one and the calcharo's are so informative
Depends which rotation you use, but generally no - you'll usually gain like 50-60% concerto, so the main reason we're able to keep 100% uptime on the outro is like you said, because Unison gets consumed every other rotation! And glad to be of service - Thanks for watching
i am confused about 9:44 isn't verina the same element as jinhsi so she would only gain 2 stacks/sec for her coordinated attacks ? no clue what the maximum number of stacks per second is though 😅
Yeah you're correct, I was just using a hypothetical where the elements all differ, but forgot to swap the character to Baizhi - good point, sorry for the confusion!
@@whatisnuit9341 Oh yeah, unfortunately the game doesn't have any way for you to track your buffs, outside from tiny visual effects on your character. You'll just have to get used to the feel of the timings =[
Yes, you're absolutely right - I've subconsciously shifted my Mortefi's ult to be at the start of his rotation to compensate and didn't even realize it. I'll add this to a pin, thank you
She's definitely strong, if you want a unit that'll reliably clear a tower for you, I'd personally recommend grabbing her. However, I wouldn't say she's a must pull by any means, especially since she's a PURE selfish, personal damage dealer, which means she's more likely to get powercrept in the future.
Assuming both Jinhsi and Yinlin are S0, Moonlit clouds is probably the better choice since Jinhsi deals so much DPS. However if you have Stringmaster, the difference is probably not that much, and you could take your pick!
I'm having an issue where jinhsi's enhanced basics aren't proccing mortefi's coordinated attacks (I guess because they are calculated as skill damage), I'm wondering if mortefi's S1 fixes this?
no, unfortunately it does not. it only proccs on skill USE with his skill 1, not skill dmg. if you're using mortefi, move his ult to the start of his rotation and do some additional auto's if needed (though probably not). I've make a pinned comment that you can check for more info!
Yeah, she has trouble activating the effect since she tries to avoid using basic attacks in the base state, and incarnation basics are considered skill dmg
IMPORTANT!!!
Apologies, Mortefi does NOT work with Jinhsi exactly the way I explained in the example team cycle, but that doesn't change his status as one of the best SubDPS options for Jinhsi.
At the moment, his ult only procs with basic attack and heavy DAMAGE, even though it says HITS.
Since Jinhsi rarely uses basics or heavy attacks, this means that as far Incandescence generation goes, the majority of your Mortefi's Coordinated attack's value will have to come himself.
This means you should use Mortefi's ult at the start of his rotation, and make sure you get at least 5 seconds of value from his ult before swapping to Jinhsi. If you have Mortefi's S1, you don't even have to worry about the 5 seconds, and can just follow his ult with the standard skill-BAC-skill-outro rotation, since Jinhsi's skill 2 and 3 will proc his coordinated attacks. If for whatever reason you find that you're a few stacks shy of full before using Jinhsi's s4, you can add an additional BAC to Mortefi's rotation.
Note that most standard Mortefi builds will not have enough Energy Regen % to reliably ult on every cycle without spending extra time on field. To remedy this, either spend more time on field with Mortefi, or use ER% 3 costs and/or weapons.
TL;DR - Use Mortefi's ult at the start of his rotation.
Lost her pity at 80 and got her guaranteed after 50 pulls. Last time i got Yinlin + her weapon with a total of 40 pulls, so i accept it.
Oooo unlucky you missed the 50/50, but grats on the early pull after. Really jealous about Yinlin+Stringmaster! Have you had a chance to try out your Jinhsi team yet?
You need Morteffi at S5 for a better Jihnsi stack generation.
I think, if Mortefi not at S5 consider using a character with strong solo time instead, so that character can deal damage while slowly filling Jihnsi's stack.
@@DisIngRaM Thanks for the insight! Honestly, I'm having no troubles getting 50 Incandescence for Jinhsi with S1 Mortefi, even with only fielding him for the duration of his short rotation (ult-skill-bac-skill-echo-outro)
Without S1, you don't get his coordinated attacks for using Jinhsi's S2 and 3, so it's likely best to add 1 more bac, but I'd still recommend him over a solo on field dpser like encore or whomever, since at BEST characters without coordinated attacks can only generate 1 stack per second, but Mortefi can do 3 per second.
Yuanwu however, is an excellent, easy to use alternative that can easily drop his skill for coordinated attacks, offers slight knockdown resistance, and the vibration damage really does help setup safe burst windows for Jinhsi. He's probably easier to use than S0 Mortefi, but Mortefi is a 4*, getting a single copy in the future is pretty likely, so it's entire a playstyle preference, imo.
You have some of the most thorough and well explained guides I've seen. Period! There's clearly a lot of effort you put into your videos. From using relevant gameplay video, to simplifying kits with easy to understand descriptors, to the structure of the video that builds upon itself in levels of complexity. Really hope you get more subs because you deserve it
Thank you so much for the kind words, it really means a lot to me! My goal is to present information in a structured, easy to digest manner to make characters more approachable, so your comment warms my heart
I've been waiting for your guide on her! None of the others do it for me anymore.
Edit : Yep, knew it. Best guide out there with actual info that I haven't seen most, if not all, other ccs even bring up. 10/10.
Aww, thanks for coming back!
I hope it's helpful
Same lol been checking his upload ever since i got jinshi
@@NANAQ-bk5rg appreciate you guys
Thanks for the video. Very helpful and informative.
Good luck to everybody still pulling 👍
Thanks for watching!
Very good guide!
Little something that’s been going around, Yuanwu being a Gauntlet means that he can run the Originite series gauntlet, and use its healing to activate the Rejuvenating Glow set. This allows Verina to take the Moonlit Clouds set instead - while a bit unconventional, it frees up Yuanwu’s field time to be extremely short, and with Verina’s quick Concerto gain, maximizes Jinhsi’s field time.
Yep! You can also use cruisewing to proc the heal effect too! I like that there are ways to do quirky setups like this.
S2 isnt confusing at all. Out of combat has never meant just off the field in any game. Your whole team is either in combat or not. Off the field effects will specifically say that. People just chose to ignore the obvious out of copium.
Yeah everyone was super hopeful for the free full stacker every 4 seconds haha
Just got S1R1 Jinhsi with amazing Echos thanks for guide
Congrats! I hope it was helpful :D
Great video as always. Keep posting more guides. Thanks for all the detailed info. On another note, it was hilarious i kept hearing you said Baizhi's name an idiot (sounds like in Mandarin). lol...
LMAO SORRY!! I don't speak any Mandarin so I try my best haha. Thanks for watching, I hope it was helpful!
21:10
Her ult cooldown is 25 seconds, I think it is better to insert her ult earlier in her rotation.
Right after Intro or after echo?
Also Jue as Echo, deal tick elemental damage to affected foes for 15 seconds, which actually contributes to Jihnsi's stack.
TLDR, you can use Echo just before SKILL4, to gain extra Jihnsi stack when introing into another NON-SPECTRO character, in which case, should be a decent alternative instead of echoing early.
Wherever you use it, as long as use it around the same time, it shouldn't matter too much, but I've been starting to just blast it whenever it comes up
And yeah that is a really good option as well regarding jue and stacks!
Glad I watched this video before I went for s2. Assumed it was based off in battle. Thanks for saving my astrites
Whew!! Glad to help, hope you have fun with Jinhsi!
12:06 I mean, that's pretty straightforward. Off field and out of combat are two very different things
Fair enough! I and many others were fooled when her leaks came out initially T_T
Thank you for this amazing guide! I got really lucky with my pulls and got her at 20 pity. I was just going for the 4*s. I did another 10 pull to hope for more 4*s and ended up getting another copy. Guess it's time to build her haha
CONGRATS!!! That is really lucky, holy moly! Which 4 star were you going for?
@@bNaturalGaming I was mainly going for Danjin!
@@spiderpool711 Ooooo gotcha! Did you end up getting any? :p
@@bNaturalGaming nope, just a single copy of YangYang plus the 2 Jinshi haha
Great video. Do you know if the mid-air dodge counter brings you to BA3 like the ground one? Could save a few basics on the way to da lazer.
Thank you! Unfortunately no, mid air dodges in your base stance will follow up with the plunge attack, and dodging during Incarnation won't expedite your BAC either.
Hey can u help me to decide which support is the best for me to use, rn i have mortefi S0 and yuanwu S4 so should i still go with mortefi or choose yuanwu? I also gonna use baizhi as healer since my verina and yinlin is used by calcharo
I'd probably go with Yuanwu in your situation! With S0 Mortefi, you'll want to add like 2-3 extra seconds of field him for him during is rotation, which is basically like a basic attack combo. WIth S1, you can just do the normal quick rotation of (ult-skill-BAC-skill-echo-outro), and your stack generation should be of no issue!
I responded to a similar question before, so I'll paste the relevant bit here:
Yuanwu however, is an excellent, easy to use alternative that can easily drop his skill for coordinated attacks, offers slight knockdown resistance, and the vibration damage really does help setup safe burst windows for Jinhsi. He's probably easier to use than S0 Mortefi, but Mortefi is a 4*, getting a single copy in the future is pretty likely, so it's entire a playstyle preference, imo.
@@bNaturalGaming thank you for the suggestion!
The rotation is perfect and explained in a way even a baby will understand it. Great Job my friend
Thanks! I hope it helps :D
sorry i haven't played around with jinhsi much but from each one of her rotations can you expect to get full concerto energy for the outro/following characters to generate stacks easier? or are we only able to achieve that because we have unison so we can fill the concerto gauge every other rotation? thank you in advance 🙏 these guides are extremely helpful for rotations, this one and the calcharo's are so informative
Depends which rotation you use, but generally no - you'll usually gain like 50-60% concerto, so the main reason we're able to keep 100% uptime on the outro is like you said, because Unison gets consumed every other rotation!
And glad to be of service - Thanks for watching
i am confused about 9:44 isn't verina the same element as jinhsi so she would only gain 2 stacks/sec for her coordinated attacks ? no clue what the maximum number of stacks per second is though 😅
Yeah you're correct, I was just using a hypothetical where the elements all differ, but forgot to swap the character to Baizhi - good point, sorry for the confusion!
am i wrong if i say im having difficulty to see the buff from other chars as well what had been said from the video, the stack of buff?
Not exactly sure what you mean, but yeah, seeing your stack count while on other characters is impossible atm I believe.
@@bNaturalGaming Sorry for my question, what i mean was beside being unable to see the stacks, i also cant see any buff from other chars.
@@whatisnuit9341 Oh yeah, unfortunately the game doesn't have any way for you to track your buffs, outside from tiny visual effects on your character. You'll just have to get used to the feel of the timings =[
Is there a clear best team for Jinshi? Still confused about Yuan wu vs. Yinlin etc
@@XlionofjudahX yinlin is definitely the best. Between Mortefi and yaunwu, I'd say it's just preference!
@@bNaturalGaming Thanks
Jinhsi cant really proc Mort's coordinated attacks, so isnt using Mort's liberation right before Jinhsi's final rotation kind of late?
Yes, you're absolutely right - I've subconsciously shifted my Mortefi's ult to be at the start of his rotation to compensate and didn't even realize it. I'll add this to a pin, thank you
Do you think Jinhsi is a must pull? :o
She's definitely strong, if you want a unit that'll reliably clear a tower for you, I'd personally recommend grabbing her. However, I wouldn't say she's a must pull by any means, especially since she's a PURE selfish, personal damage dealer, which means she's more likely to get powercrept in the future.
Im using yuanwu and i gain incandescent quite fast i guess?
if I want to use yinlin with jinhsi should I build it with the electro set or the support one?
Assuming both Jinhsi and Yinlin are S0, Moonlit clouds is probably the better choice since Jinhsi deals so much DPS.
However if you have Stringmaster, the difference is probably not that much, and you could take your pick!
I'm having an issue where jinhsi's enhanced basics aren't proccing mortefi's coordinated attacks (I guess because they are calculated as skill damage), I'm wondering if mortefi's S1 fixes this?
no, unfortunately it does not.
it only proccs on skill USE with his skill 1, not skill dmg.
if you're using mortefi, move his ult to the start of his rotation and do some additional auto's if needed (though probably not). I've make a pinned comment that you can check for more info!
Jinhsi is good but I need more crit rate
RNG isn't blessing me either T_T
So it turns out the BP broadblade isn’t any better than Broadblade 41?
Yeah, she has trouble activating the effect since she tries to avoid using basic attacks in the base state, and incarnation basics are considered skill dmg