How Honda Went From Being A Meme To The Best Engine Suppliers In F1
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- Honda's return to F1 in 2015 was full of a lot of troubles. Their engines would fail more often than not and their partnership with McLaren pretty much became a meme. However, since then, they have rebuilt themselves with Toro Rosso, become race winners again with Red Bull, and are now leading both the Drivers' and Constructors' championships. Here is the story of how they went from being a meme to the best engine suppliers in F1.
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LH: "and not honda"
HONDA: "And I took that personally"
and now he is whining that honda has a “quali mode” 😂
Aged like fine milk
@@yasindudesilva1458 for GOODDD
A looser champ 2021# Season. NVR touch engineering..
But if it werent for Alonso's harsh critisism, honda wouldnt have gotten any better in 2016 which saw mclaren honda improved alot.
And Mclaren made the right decision to put ron dennis on garden duty.
Maybe I'm too sentimental for my own good, but I cried when the Honda guy cried on Verstappen's first podium. Imagine the years of ridicule, and to win not because of luck, but pure pace... God... I can't help myself.
That was emotional
Yeah, for Japanese engineers it's even more emotional. It was a great moment and I love how Red Bull and Verstappen keep honoring Honda.
Me too man. Im a big honda fan. Also shows how complete redbull is as a team. Alonso already had to eat his words, its hamiltons turn. Lol.
@@pranc236 not really because a that time it was not a good engine and Alonso suffered for a lot .
@@stanleysantana8583 mclaren still blaming honda for everything when they had had car setup issues as well. Mclaren bounced back well and im happy they are getting it together. They are becoming strong again. Not to say honda was great at the time cuz they were not but the difference was mclaren wanted everything in a small package. While redbull said give the best u got and we will make it fit. As for alonso he ate those words in indycar, when honda wouldnt let him use a honda. May have been his real chance to win the indy 500.
We've been waiting 5 years, but the VTEC finnally kicked in.
Lmaoooo, good one
Tbh, I think it kicked in when Gasly won the drag race. Redbull got their wings a little later.
VTEC is kickin in at 6000 rpm. So you have to wait a little for it 😉
Yo!
VTEC+TURBO = Godlike!
To be honest, the breakup between honda and mclaren ended for the better for both ways so i'm happy
Imagine the current McLaren car with the current Honda engine tho 👀
For sure. It was the best thing for both of them
Did it though? I mean if RB win both WCC and WDC within 3 years of Partnering HONDA..it shows McLaren mismanaged the entire thing
@@parthvalecha467 The Mercedes engine is plenty good enough boi.
Just like how Renault engine brought lots of success to RBR. But when the relationship stops working it stops working. Now RBR is better off going with Honda.
You’ve got to remember that McLaren had every reason to be unhappy with the Honda engines. Sure, by the end there was a toxic dynamic, but at the beginning both parties would have been positive and cooperative. Ultimately, Honda didn’t deliver and McLaren were frustrated. Then they want more control because they feel Honda is inept, that stifles Honda, Honda grow frustrated and so on and so forth.
Same thing with Renault and RBR.
When this happens, a fresh start is often the best outcome. Renewed investment. A clean slate and new benchmarks for success.
That big, HONDA on the rear wing will be iconic, hopefully, as they beat the years long dominance of Mercedes and to close an era of f1
Hamilton saw that rear wing for the whole last two races.
Edit: Five.
It already is iconic. That HONDA on the back is a reminiscence of the most legendary name in whole of motorsports history. And yes, they will END AND DESTROY mercedes amg.
@@Khan-ts2ji monaco, baku, france and austria. I think he is getting to it🤣
@@darmap8489 HONDA, the most legendary name in whole of motorsports history? Have you ever heard of Porsche?
its the only thing hamilton sees in his nightmares
"And not Honda" this aged like fine milk
Well it would be cheese right now
:)
It would be rotten.. it took them 8 years let’s not mask their recent ( this year) results with a sucess
Yeah.
@@andreborges3849 yeah and ferrari been awful since 2008 also renault since 2013, they failed to capture any kind of championship for 13 years for ferrari and 8 years for renault, and they stay in f1 longer than honda which is a part timer... they should get better engine and car right?
Oh wait........
Alonso: GP 2 Engine
Hamilton: not Honda
Max: and the V-Tec kicks in yo!
Always a pleasure when seeing the underdogs starting to fight back 🏆
Honda were never underdogs in F1. They dominated the first turbo era in the 80's and won 6 straight constructors' titles with Williams and McLaren in 1986-1987-1988-1989-1990-1991, and 5 straight drivers' titles Piquet 87, Senna 88, Prost 89, Senna 90, Senna 91. Honda has been winning races in F1 since 1965 so winning is nothing new for them.
Everybody who knows Honda's racing record in F1, Indycar, WEC, IMSA etc etc knows it was only a question of time before they got back to the top.
@@McLarenMercedes thank you for a very thorough explanation.
i'm still going to call them the underdogs, because compared to Mercedes aho earned their Goliath status since the beginning of the turbo hybrid era, and compared to Honda have a really rough start especially during the McLaren days. Now with Red Bull they have earned the David status and becoming the main title protagonist.
Its as if wherever Alonso goes, bad luck follows.
Haha
Whats even more Funnier. The Honda was shit as fuck back then. Kinda ironic that this year (Actually the year where some key mercedes engineers went over to red bull) they start to be in front of everyone. Im not a fan of either of them.. but you meme kids know nothing about F1. AND EVERY LITTLE COMMENT under this video, is just BS.
That ‘and not Honda’ comment from Hamilton - eat those repeated and consecutive Red Bull Honda wins now 😁
Haha
@@JoDON111 nobody starts at the top man. They took time but look at them now they are beating merc at their own game. THE best engine on the grid now
@@JoDON111 : I remember the years with Schumacher. Even Mercedes took a while to get good.
And now he is the cry Baby.
@@JK-Visions : I don't think of Hamilton as a cry baby. Someone that stands equal or above the greatest in F1 that's ever been (stat-wise - Schumacher) and makes millions upon millions each year in exchange for his skills is one to be reckoned with. If it seems like crying, you can bet there's a strategy behind it. anything for the win.
I don't like that strategy but alas, that's the way F1 is.
It really sucks that Honda is just now backing out. Honda is an outstanding and storied manufacturer and Japan has one of the best car cultures in the world. At least they're going out with a bang this time
I wonder if RB will do setting crazy again and approach Toyota? 😂
@@nerdyism2523 RB is further developing the Honda engine... Red Bull Powertrains. They will make their own.
@@SuperGeronimo999 More like Honda is the engine supplier just like before, but RB themselves takes care of the engines. They don't make own engines.
@@kiisseli1337 No... RB powertrains will develop and produce their own engines by 2025. That is the ultimate goal, to be independent from suppliers like Honda. They now own the IP of the current engine and will modify it on their own. They already recruited like 100 people, including top mechanics of Mercedes.
@@kiisseli1337 Don't try and correct people when you so clearly don't know a damn thing.
Yes lad, what a banger this is!
Oh Tommo is here! ✅
Aye! Thanks Tommo 🔥
Can’t believe tommos actually commenting on these proper makes me happy 🤣
RED-BULL and HONDA HAVE BEEN PRACTICING IN WITCHCRAFT AS WELL AS ALCHEMY and SOME OF THE TEAM MEMBERS HAVE SOLD THEIR SOULS. ALL OF THIS HAS LEAD TO AN UNGODLY MONSTER OF A ENGINE and I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HOW MUCH POWER IT CAN ACTUALLY PRODUCE, HOPEFULLY THIS YEARS F1 CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT WILL BE AWESOME!!!......
yoooooo🔥🔥🔥🔥
Not from Japan but always loved honda and will continue to love honda
you dont have to be japanese to like honda but i get what you mean
I'm Malaysian and I love Honda
The Power of Dreams gives you wings!
Honda's story is soo inspirational in real life too
"those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves, will be exalted"
-Jesus Christ
The people the world despises are often those that God will choose
Maybe it's just me, but Red Bull Racing Honda just sounds correct. I really hope that Honda wins the championship before leaving.
Edit: AND THEY HAVE DONE IT
Their logo just looks so good on that navy blue Red Bull shirt, man
@@wad316 and on that spoiler as well
@@PedrocamaroSS Personally I like how Austin Martin was on that wing and I hope that Silverstone based team does that in the future, I do miss AM on that RB but Honda is absolutely killing it and when they eventually win Constructor's they won't have to share the glory with AM
In the senna era he raced in a mclaren Honda and grilled ate and pooped the others racers
@@mawile3037 It’s called Aston Martin…
That clip of Gasly pulling away from Hamilton will always be an emotional piece of video for me.
Same bro. I was literally screaming at my tv. What a brilliant race
@@nikomoin7604 lol I think I was also screaming at my tv. What a moment, what an absolute banger of a race.
@@nikomoin7604 Me too haha
Honda now having the last laugh with Lewis’s comment 😆
Get in there honda!
Lewis is a joke with all his virtue signalling
Yep. Not so fun when the rabbit's got the gun.
YESss
Can you repeat that comment please Lewis
Honda, just like Gasly, went from Hero to Zero to Hero again
Hopefully Honda win this championship it’ll be a nice way to bow out of formula one. And by way nice theme song for the intro . your content is really awesome keep up the good work mate 👊🏾👌🏾.
Thanks mate. Yeah it would be nice if Honda could go out on a high
Max win at suzuka!!!!!
I think you mean legendary. If Honda wins the championship then dips, it'll definitely be a historical milestone not just for an F1 team but specifically red bull, the likes of winning 4 straight. Winning the championship and cutting off both Mercedes on their next championship and Max cutting of Lewis on the WDC, it'll be legendary
Well, everything is telling that they will win this year. Its amazing how in a short period of time they develop such a strong engine.
Honda starts winning consistently then announces leaving F1...I could not believe it after all the experience they have built up..why not benefit from winning for a few years?
They made some big mistakes at first, but rebuilding the engine was definitely a great choise. I got a lot of respect for Honda that they didnt give up and are now reaping the fruits of their labor
But they have given up. They have quit f1, again. This time they should leave as a one time champion engine builder.
@@333mystic They are not gone yet and the engine is here to stay and will be working on the engine togetjer with Red Bull for a while longer. Doesnt really matter though if they leave or not, they still did well
Amen, never give up.
In due time, the harvest will come
Mercedes (winning): We welcome challenges. We encourage challenges.
Honda: Brings the challenge
Mercedes: No no not fair. You are cheating.
Typical white man arrogance
You forget that it took
1. Lowering the time spend in wind tunnel for winners and people high in the constructors championship
2. Cutting the floor of 2021cars
3. Budget caps to lower spending
So winning against Mercedes now is like beating a leashed wolf (not a dog). That is why some people say it is unfair.
@@Kexche Actually No. Everyone has the same rules and limits (floor, wind tunnel tests etc) you mentioned.
More like bringing the boxers weight to parity or closing down the pay to win feature.
There are some good videos on the topics I mentioned. Maybe you should watch them and familiarize yourself. Cheers.
@@GreyJedi17 Typical Chinese arrogance
1:25 oh how the turn tables
Here after Honda won the WDC.
Sweet justice since "And not Honda"
Honda took the long term path to improve, but RB was the one that really gave the chance to made it possible...
Agreed...
i dont want to say it early but, horner must be glad that RB moved from Renault to Honda
From the beginning McLaren didn't respect Honda, literally saying that its road cars would never have Honda engines despite their partnership. Not only this, but the way McLaren took Senna's name for one of its cars, knowing that he literally loved Honda was dirty as hell.
Wait you mean? What did McLaren do? I'm confused
@@MKRCinema they named their car senna. Im not sure that was to attack Honda but if it was it would fit to mclaren
@@nikomoin7604 it was kinda dirty of McLaren tbh
Absolute Bollocks,,,, Honda,s engines were not up to it during their 3 years with Mclaren...Honda knew it but it was only at McLarens insistence that Honda needed outside knowledge, and suggested where to get that best amongst the other engine component builders...It has taken 5 years for Honda to produce a decent engine....Good on Honda for now acheiving best engine status, but dont blame Mclaren
@@robertblows5989 lol
And don't forget, Honda create one of the best sounding V6 turbo hybrid, yeah 2021 didn't have BRRRR GRRR GRRR sound like 2019 and 2020, but those engine still make a great sound and power
The engine still makes that sound even more in real life. I was at the gp last weekend. But redbull has changed the mic position. The alpha touri cars are still making the sound on tv thoo
@@mka6128 Yeah, the microphone position can make or break the car's sound. I despised the mic position on the Racing Points. Almost made my ears bleed. Ffs, it was a Mercedes engine, no need to put the mic in a different spot compared to the other Mercedes-powered cars.
You are sooo wrong... 2020 and 2021 cars ARE the SAME thats why 2020 car is called rb16 2021 car rb16b
Only a few updated where made
@@robertoeijs the engine is diferent
They will be champions this year, they fully deserve it, what a great story
Fun fact: at the moment, that honda engine on Max's car, deserves not only 32 points, but 76 points gap over that merc engine on Ham's merc. HAM is just lucky
Will they? Bit too early to celebrate. Be cautious.
I don't want Honda to win, but I do want RB and max to win, so I'll have to take it hehe
@@lefishef1 wym ham is just lucky ? He was pretty close to max in a worse car ?! That points gap ur talking about could have been smaller. If not for Lewis hitting the brake heating button amd locking up.
It all depends on the perspective. Id say honda is doing pretty damn good.
👀
I didn’t know that Honda got coaxed by McClaren to supply a power unit a year earlier than they wanted. Explains a lot.
Great video. Especially liked the intro.
I already predicted Honda would improve to make a top class engine when they went from McLaren to Red Bull. Japanese do not give up, they simply put more effort into it and with RB they found a partner that listened to them and gave them the space they needed to improve.
And o boy, have they improved!
it was not McLarens fault
@@hugoporras3162 Yes it was, they wanted the engine one year before it was ready.
@@SuperGeronimo999 and that caused the engine to be bad for 3 years ok
@@hugoporras3162 Sure. It was honda's fault. They decided to undermine mclaren and give 110% with RB.
@@jefm32 no, they had plenty of time to develop a good engine, and they didn't, simple as that
Thank you Honda for making the beautiful K24A3 engine in my Honda Accord🙏
This is the Honda spirit.
I am sure Mr. Honda is very glad to see the young engineers were still carrying his spirit and vision.
"and not Honda" didnt age well, certainly not after yesterday
Some will balk at the best engine part but being able to create an engine that is more reliable & powerful while also being smaller is an amazing feat.
Great topic and Video, IMO Honda has the best sound engine on the grid, love the sound!
The Honda engine does sound very sweet
You love that vtec sound
I have the highest admiration for honda, and the Japanese culture. I so wish they can win the 2021 championship, which will be a fitting good bye for them from all the F1 fans through the decades they've entertained us.
Definitely honda will win
Your wish had been granted.
@@Two2onefive Indeed..😁 Thank you for your response..
Hope 2022 is a good season.
Edit: AND THEY DID!!!
Honda story straight out of anime story
Any lesser engine manufacturer would have given up
Toyota. I´m very disappointed with them, racing in WEC alone, could only win when the Porsche and Audi left the house. And there F1 history.
@@pedroferrr1412 Tbh even if porsche and audi stays i think toyota would've eventualy match or beat them, just like honda they also need time to improve it just happen that when they finally get better porsche and audi decide to leave. Toyota also doing really well in WRC and Dakar rally
@@nonameyet2205 didn't Toyota win a championship when Porsche and Audi were using WEC as their stomping ground?
@@pedroferrr1412 Not sure if you know what you're talking about... in 2012, after returning to endurance racing after 13 years, they won 3 out of 8 races, with Audi winning the remaining five races. Quite close, but not bad for a start. In 2014 they won the season, with 5 wins out of 8 races. Audi won twice, and Porsche won once.
In 2017, Audi left. Toyota won 5 out of 9 races, Porsche won 4. Now its not their fault if Porsche and Audi are quitting, or is it?
@@nonameyet2205 Match or beat them? In 2014, Toyota won the season against Audi & Porsche. In 2017 Audi was gone, but Toyota beat Porsche. Not Toyota's fault if they're quitting. Maybe Mercedes should have quit Formula 1 after last year too.
HAAS: Equal drivers for every team.
RB Honda: Not Lewis or Alonso.
I missed the foto when Max pointed on the Honda logo when he was on podium in Spain.
That was in Austria (2019), not Spain.
Being called a gee-pee-too engine at their home track seemed to light a fire under them
I love how they came back at that on Twitter after their second F1 win with Red Bull. Not really buying their "it was a spelling error" when they tweeted "GP 2 wins" or something along those lines. It was a clear stab at Alonso.
@@halofreak1990 oh damn i missed that! Simply simply lovely words lmao
Alonso improving an engine singlehandedly 😎
@@hugoporras3162 and not being allowed to drive that engine 😎
@@yellow_x522 donating It to worse drivers, incredible sportsmanship
You could tell that this was a very well thought out and well researched video. Abselutly brilliant!
Thank you very much :)
I was one to meme on honda when they were with mclaren. Now that engine is a beast. Wew
Shame they are leaving the sport and leaving that PU with a rebranded name.
The thing that makes me laugh the most from this whole saga is the fact that Honda‘s engine is now smaller than the engine mclaren wanted. if McLaren would’ve just stuck it out and drove with the Honda engine in 2019 after Alonso left I really feel like they could’ve been in a better position than they are even now they could’ve been the ones bidding to take over the Honda engine program and make it works McLaren engines. You can’t tell me Zac Brown isn’t losing at least a little bit of sleep over the decision to switch to the Reno engine for a few years.
For sure. In hindsight, McLaren should have been more patient because Honda were on the right path, it was just taking longer than they wanted.
It wouldn't work with the mentality McLaren had at the time. they shouted that they had the best chassis but it was just held back by Honda, and giving Honda more space would ruin the chassis. The switch they did to Renault showed them that their chassis wasn't that good. As the Renault was a race winning engine, but McLaren wasn't showing wins with a race winning engine and so called best chassis.
Meanwhile redbull/torro rosso said that Honda should just build the best engine, penalties for extra revisions be damned. And they would make the chassis fit.
I feel like that relationship was poisoned fruit. Just like Red Bull and Renualt.
Splitting up was probably the best decision for both though. Without it, McLaren wouldn't have realised their own problems with their chassis and organization.
Dennis left and Brown joined which changed the whole dynamic. Also the spending had to be cut down as Mclaren weren't in a good shape and so they had to give up on the exclusive engine deal.
It was better for Honda to join a team that was at the top and improve thereon because RB would always have one of the best chassis's on the grid so Honda would know where they are lacking
As for Mclaren, they had to make that shuffle especially in the leadership dept even on the technical side because it clearly wasn't working and now they're in a good shape to actually have an exclusive engine deal maybe from 2025 with Audi or Porsche?
I have waited so long for this..HONDA inspires me..from being a joke to being contenders while Renault have been playing around for 7 years..Honda became contenders in 6..impressive.
I want Verstappen,RB and Honda to get this title because they have been battered by MERC for so long..so this is a great underdog winning story..plus Ferrari,MERC and Renault are all bigger f1 projects financially but RB HONDA is up there.
This the best video you have ever made..almost made me cry....I love when the abused and disrespected underdog finally comes good....I mean even Max pointed to the HONDA logo at Austria 2019 and 2021 and Tanabe-an represented on the podium..as he did in 2019.
SAD to see them go but hopefully they leave on a high...
ODD that Verstappen was actually passing Alonso while he made GP2 comment....
It’s a shame they are leaving now because I feel like they were just getting started. It’s been a struggle, but they have continued persevering. It would be a great underdog story if they won this championship with Red Bull
@@BMPHF1 I am definitely sharing this video..great work mate..
@@BMPHF1 At leats their engine does not leave F1...I hope those Honda engineers will join for knowledge and development in the UK where the RB engine factory is build.
@@micahkiyimba8641 ~ "HONDA inspires me..from being a joke to being contenders while Renault have been playing around for 7 years"
You know Honda and Renault both produced engines that won F1 Constructor's Championships before right?
@@fablewalls I mean in the hybrid era....HONDA is coming good. Renault have not figured out Hybrids yet.
I love Honda and I think I'm so happy that they're really well
"The power of dreams"
The power of Honda
I am watching this after Verstappen has been crowned a world champion on a Honda powered car. What a great rags to riches story this is !!
Honda Wins the WDC. All honda powered cars beat Alonso.
It's called the Ultimate Redemption from Honda.
They're the best sounding engine on the grid, hands down. Just purrs along beautifully
ferrari better
Like a Honda...
Mercedes better
alpine is good
@@barathrajkumar5564 that one too
Honda is a powehouse in terms of engine improvement of existing technologies. I used to drive a 1.5L Honda Civic GL from 1990 at some point, and I was actually very surprised with the power and a very good throttle response and gear changes. In the early 90's oh boy that was POWERFUL from such a small engine. The only issue I had with the car was understeer especially in the wet on power, but in the mountain roads in a downhill it was sublime I was able to beat a Celica GT4 and the Civic didn't break a sweat, it would hug those undulations and road side curbs like it was nothing, extremely compliant
Well, the GT4 driver was not good. Many years ago, i beat a Lancia Integrale with a Fiat Uno Turbo, in a mountain course, the same thing.
@@pedroferrr1412 even though he was not a bad driver I've seen much worse with powerful cars to the point i was feeling pity for the cars themselves it's true driver skill but especially experience in driving in mountainous winding roads plays a huge role he was accelerating a lot on the turn exit and braking heavily before each turn, eventually his brakes were cooked and that's when I took the opportunity to overtake him, i was keeping a steady speed that required very little braking and only used them heavily when I made the move on him. He caught up when we finally reached a village and couldn't believe that the GL was stock 🤣 but it always feels nice to best much more powerful cars, of course for that to happen you need turns can't beat power on a straight line even if you put Schumacher behind the wheel
This shows success cannot be rushed, it takes time.
McLaren: Ok Honda, you must make an engine that fit with our chassis
Red Bull: Ok Honda, you make the engine and we make a chassis that fit to your engine
You could have explained more how they've established themselves at the top of today's ranking. There's quite a story behind the 2021 Honda engine.
Yeah, I was curious what's happening with RBR Honda now. How much of it is engine/car aero/ driver?
That’s something I would like to know more about as well
@@gsreads As far as the Honda 2021 engine goes, A LOT has been changed: Even smaller than 'size zero' layout overhaul, vastly improved combustion efficiency, new cylinder head and block design using hitech plating from its motorcycle division, improved best-in-class energy recovery system, etc. Add to that a years in the making, newly designed oil formula that uses cosmetics ingredients based on whales sperm (not kidding!) and you presumably end up with at least 40 extra brake horsepower compared to 2020.
As for aero: The high rake concept Red Bull uses allows for a lot more engineering development options to overcome the 2021 downforce restrictions than Mercedes can pull off with its low rake aero design.
As for the driver: It's Max, what else is there to tell? At this point, the RB 16B has basically become an extension of his body.
@@gsreads The aero is achieved in part because of the size of the honda engine. Look at how open RB body work is behind the halo vs other teams. it's amazing how narrow RB intake is behind the driver. RB gave honda a chance to work on reliability and both RB and Honda is being rewarded.
and they won again and again till today😂
Very high quality video mate,that intro sequence was cinematic
Thanks mate :)
That was the most beautiful thing i have heard & seen in years ❤😭
THANK YOU
Hamilton may forgot that his idol, Ayrton Senna won three F1 World Championship with Honda engine, 1988, 1990 and 1991, he should have seen this coming 😆😆😆
Honda has made some of the best f1 engines in history, this is no different.
They also made some of the worst.
Not just f1 engines but simply the best engines in automotive and motorsports history.
@@darmap8489 Tell that to Mercedes who just won 7 titles in a row, also this year could be another one. Or to Renault who won anything from 1993..1997 with just Ford winning 1994 and then again in 2005, 2006, 2010...2013.
How is the best engine Honda doing during this period? Nothing?
Oh, sure, they won some Indycars titles. BTW, Indycar is at the GP2 level, did you know that? I bet you didn't. See COTA lap times, GP2 and later F2 cars were faster than Indycar cars. FACT.
HONDA is at the GP2 engines level.
Go research what is the most dominant car in f1 history. Mclaren Honda MP4/4. Look how many constructor's titles Honda won in a row and how many WDC their drivers won. Butthurt Merc fanboy!!
@@darmap8489 I am a lifetime McLaren fan, rtrd. I know better than you the history of my own team, I was part of the team once in my youth. You were not even born back then, millennial snowflake..
I have a feeling that Honda quietly saying to McLaren and Alonso; 'Who's laughing now, bitch?!'
Alonso didn't deserve it. He was driving for Honda in a sense, and his criticism is completely justified given that they let him and his points/championship down.
It only took them half a decade to get their shit together.....McLaren and Fernando probably don't even remember who Honda is
Lets not forget that Ricciardo also left Red Bull for Renault shortly after they announced the move to Honda, and when they asked him about it he said it did play a part in his decision, which turned out to be a very bad decision (although clearly he also had issues with Max getting preferential treatment).
Excuses of him, he was just afraid of MV, look at him now, against Norris.
Biggest mistake of his life.
Not even Mercedes power can save him now.
Watching this as the son of the owner of the biggest Honda company in our country is making me proud, not gonna lie haha
Thanks!
I never forget the day of my very first Formila-1 race in 1987 @ Hungaroring, (Budapest) as a teen, never seen cars going so fast before and never forget the smell of burned fuel near the racetrack. When they announced the winner; Alain Prost, driving a Honda, deep down I promised myself that one day I will have a Honda car. 35 years forward, now I drive Honda car and proud to see Honda making a comeback with Toro Rosso.
Thanks for the great video. Other points to add: In this current era of F1, Honda started from further behind than people realise. After several years consulting with the existing engine manufacturers - Mercedes, Ferrari, and Renault - the FIA announced the new PU format in 2011. You can bet those manufacturers already had advanced prototypes running during those years of consultation, at least 3 years before Honda would have had its own prototype. Upon its return in 2015, Honda also had to homologate its 1st generation PU - before it was even raced! Crucially, everyone else had a whole season of competition to iron-out defects and improve their PUs. Add to that, the development token penalty system, and McLaren's "size zero" constraints, and Honda were significantly restricted with its ability to develop its engine. I don't think many people appreciate the scale of this challenge.
With the development token and size zero shackles off, Honda were free to develop their desired 2nd generation PU in 2016. Now, Honda is arguably producing the best PU on the grid this year.
What a story, I feel the makings of a Hollywood movie if they win the world championship.
They should make Netflix Docu-movie about Fall and Rise Honda in F1
Awesome intro Ben!
Yes, it has been quite the turnaround for Honda, and might I add McLaren, in such a short space of time. Being a McLaren fan in those years was painful at times, but it was quite clear that Honda and McLaren were never able to work together under Ron Dennis's management, because McLaren were a bit too stubborn in their ways, and Honda was massively behind on engine development compared to the other manufacturers.
A part of me thinks that the McLaren-Honda partnership might have been more of a success had it been under the management of Zak Brown and Andreas Seidl, as both of them have brought a refreshing attitude to the team which was badly needed under the last few years of the Ron Dennis era. But alas, it wasn't to be. But both Honda and McLaren have risen from the ashes, which makes it all the more upsetting that Honda are walking away from the sport just as they are about to become competitive, AGAIN!
Oh i am an old school honda fan since Ayrton Senna. So yeah i cried.
Who knows, maybe we should give a big TY to Fernando for being so critical of Honda a few years ago.
This is just brainstorming here obviously.. but knowing the Japanese culture, failure is not something they can let go easily, if something isnt good and it makes them look bad, they will do anything in their powers to change that.
So who knows, that "GP2 Engine" statement might actually have been the trigger at Honda to show they do know what they are doing and that they can deliver a world class engine, capable of winning races and potentially winning championships.
Either way, i am ever so happy to see Honda back where they belong, a small reminder of the Honda Mugen days perhaps.
Still sad to see them leave the sport now they got that engine up to spec and are in a serious fight for both championships, but if you are leaving the sport... what better way than to take a title home with you. (maybe both!)
Never underestimate Japanese pride.. i am certain that has a lot to do with it, why they came back so strong as they have.
I like your point about the Japanese ‘never say die mentality’. They simply refused to let the time with McLaren define them.
@@BMPHF1 exactly :)
Thank you for your nice comment.
@@kenzonakashima1411 you are most welcome and i meant every word, Japan has an amazing culture where other nations could learn a great deal from :)
You said yourself "the Japanese culture, failure is not something they can let go easily, if something isnt good and it makes them look bad, they will do anything in their powers to change that.: They dont need any toxic critism inside their home from anyone! Dont try to take credits and put it to Alonso's TOXIC character! PLEASE!
Thank You for bringing this up it wasn’t easy for HONDA but now I’m happy and glad HONDA is shutting people up like Alonso and Hamilton..
Oh boy are they shutting them down. Their return to F1 was an amateur hour and they've literally spent billions on the development of their engine.
@@mrspg2978 It took Ilmor to redesign their engine to make them competitive those years
A fernando alonso,jenson button lineup goes winless and you know something is very wrong inside the car and team behind it
I find amazing that no one is talking about the production that this video has, really well done mate keep up the good work:D!
Honda people in japan took it personal and delievered a engine which will thrass the competition
I've only just seen the intro yet and i can already tell this video is gonna be amazing. Well done, mate, amazing editing, holy shit! :D
Thanks mate :)
A brilliant account of their journey back to the top in the modern turbo/hybrid era. Thank you for the effort taken in producing this.
Well done story telling! I enjoyed the point about Gasly and Honda having a similar recent trajectory. It's the storylines like this just add to the excitement for the next race.
Honda F1 Champs Nelson Piquet , Alain Prost, Ayrton Senna and Max Verstappen
That intro montage was beautiful ❤, great video
Thanks :)
Behind the successful season honda f1 racing. Mr. Tanabe & Yamamoto
Fernando is a stoic driver, many years doing exhibitions with a tractor. He deserves a top car in 2022 to show everyone what he can do!!!
This was insanely well made. How good was the intro!
Thank you :)
That intro was just beautiful, keep up the good work , you are up there with one of the best f1 CZcamsrs.
Thanks Siddharth :)
Great video man would love to see more in this retrospective style from you!
thanks for doing these year-in-review videos. It is challenging to remember which companies, manufacturers, and teams are collaborating/competing each year
Glad the Honda name is on the rear wings. Happy to know that Alonso would see it every time he gets lapped
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Amazing video mate. I've been really enjoying the red bull and honda charge to the championship. I hope they can win it this year. That would be an awesome parting gift to Honda.
Honda loves to do this.
This was the same scenario back in the late 80s and early 90s when they entered no one cared for Honda until a short while later where they were powering the winning cars. One thing Honda likes to do is show off at how fast they can create a new platform and make it perfect.
Dude this intro; this is the first video I've seen of you 2 minutes in and I'm hooked already. You're destined for greatness!
Thanks :)
Underrated channel...
Love your content.. 🔥🔥
Thanks Devansh 😊
Love Honda and Japan 🇯🇵
These a very professional and informative video documentarys mate. Love the content well done!!😊😊
The moment Pierre won that dragrace in Brasil was the moment I knew Red Bull Honda was a threat to Mercedes, and my god is it awesome to see their hard work rewarded.
Great cinematography and brilliant storytelling - very good video!
You are so underated! I like your videos and keep making them the subs will come like night comes after day
Thanks so much. Really appreciate it :)
Honda got me into F1 in 2015 when I was only 13. In 2018, they got me into Torro Rosso. In 2019, I became a redbull and Max fan. Here we are in 2021, with a shot to win both WCs. This is one of the greatest storys in motorsport. It's a shame they chose to leave, I wonder would they have still left if the knew how good they would be this year. Regardless, their legacy will live on with Redbull and Max next year
Kid - you're just a kid.
@@fastcougar3200 I'm turning 19 bro. If I'm not older than 30, am I not allowed to watch f1? You comment is childish, pathetic. You are just making yourself look silly. Mind your own business.
@@MKRCinema Watch it but shut up then. Or it's five across the eyes.
@@fastcougar3200 What's wrong with you? Were you abused as a child? Why so salty my guy. I didn't comment for you. Go blow a gasket somewhere else. You don't even make sense. It's a comment section, people comment. You don't have to read them. Jeez 😂
This channel deserves great deal of subscribers.
Thanks for putting in the effort to entertain us.
This video is so very well made: something The Race can only be jealous of. Subscribed !
Very in-depth and exclaiming episode. I felt like watching an adventure movie ! 👍
Great video, keep up the good work
Thanks Abraham :)
This was really good. Thank you for uploading.
very nice job man ...first 2 min of the video are epic
Everyone bullied Honda. Now they strike back by dominating the next decade with Red Bull. Bye bye excitement. Lesson learned: never piss off Honda again.
@Darth Piekus mercedes have a worse car than RB does but might get a better car in 2022 but i hope RB dominates the next 5 years because a decade is a lot of time and i would love to see max verstappen beat lewis record which will be a challange
"those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves, will be exalted"
-Jesus Christ
@@deletusfetus9222 All I can is prepare for a Mclaren Mercedes domination for the next 5 years.
@@Mails013 i cant see mclaren at the top if they keep ricciardo but when he moves i cant see anyone to take his spot so i thing red bull have a very good chance of winning atleast 1 championship
@@deletusfetus9222 I don't care about Mercedes or Red Bull. Mercedes built their legacy cannibalizing McLaren and Red Bull are a sports drink. They will never be such an influence to the sport as McLaren, Ferrari and Williams were. People are talking about them two and ignore the awaken giant from Working and the Empire that's strikes back and now want to reclaim their rightful throne. The situation has so many similarities to 1997 transition on to 1998.
Your videos get better and better! Keep it up mate!
Thank you
The first 2 minutes of introduction were especially very exhilarating. Keep up the good work.
Brilliant video mate. Very detailed and well explained! Keep up your awesome work!