I was wrong about the MoonSwatch - It’s bad!
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The genius behind all the hype is making people think they get a cheap omega, while actually they get a very expensive swatch.
Brilliantly correct
This
They got an expensive cheap watch instead of a cheap expensive watch. Very good observation!
Yes but when you look at a Moonswatch on your wrist it looks like a real Speedy and it puts a smile on your face knowing it didn’t cost much and if you like the Swatch brand as well as the Omega brand then it’s a great feel good thing.
@@michaelmeredith912 do you really believe owning a sh?t watch makes you feel good ? I’ll check the time on my phone .
'You never actually own a Moonswatch . You merely break it for the next generation.‘
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A generation?....You are just too kind....
Clever. You did actually make me Laugh Out Loud.
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Break it the next day rather
I absolutely love the concept and wish more companies would do these types of collaborations… I just wish they would have used a nicer movement
This video makes me feel better I almost man cried when I was too late to get the moonswatch. Thank you for this.
Here’s the thing; not only both brands needed the hype, but also the watch hobby as a whole needed it. But up to this point, I think it’s safe to say that the hype got RIDICULOUSLY out of hand.
Yeah, man. This could all go to hell in a handbasket one day 😝
It’s really a shame that they need the hype. Omega’s design team are running the brand into the ground. If they would bring on new designers/creative directors that were actually watch fans and in tune with the market, they could easily be the biggest brand in the world.
As for Swatch, their main issue is the sizes. The old ones are 33mm and the new stuff is too large. They need a 36mm. Fairly easy fix.
I think most of these Swiss brands are in dire need of new talent at the helm.
What I have noticed is that most people have adopted wearing a smartwatch. The interest in that category has really killed idea of regular wrist watch.
@@speedwolf5212 I think you’re blasphemous words are 100% correct. Omega is one creative director away from super success. Look at what Breitling has just done with their new designs, just stunning. Sure, anything slightly toned down from Breitlings mega-tacky recent history would have been good but they have just knocked it out of the park this go round. Omega feels safe and stale to me. Absolutely fine good looking watches without a soul. TBF I’m the last person to speak about Omega because their aesthetic as a whole has never spoken to me.
The Swatch comment is so dead on. Too small to too large. Basic Swatch should be 36 (not 34), chronos and divers 38, and chrono divers 40. No idea why they thought 43 was a good idea. Swatch make loud designs that just come off as clown shoes at that size. You know like RM does. If people have to try that hard to be noticed they need to work on their personalities first. They seriously look like toasters on the wrist.
I would also add that Swatch need better quality built into them. I own tons of them and they really are quite shit. They wind like a 15 year old learning to drive stick for the first time, functions stop working from out of nowhere, and they break easily. This goes for the Quartz versions as well. How do they use ETA and have these issues? Make them better and adjust prices accordingly. Make them easy to service as well. Swatch is a very collector friendly brand and if they just built them with some longevity in mind I think we’d see them explode again. Well that, and get the sizing dialed in.
The current day watch market is the biggest it has been in its entire history so I have no idea what you mean about the hobby needing a boost. Omega and Swatch, sure but as a whole the industry is stupid healthy. Too healthy in my mind. This mega success/desire/hype won’t last forever and pricing will come back down to earth. Many micro brands aren’t going to survive but that’s how trends work.
Honestly so glad this video came up. What killed the collab for me is exactly that: the quality issues! Mine once stopped over night! I thought the battery died already (what would have been strange) but then i engaged the pushers and bloody hell the chrono hand started to move. I then gave the watch a few gentle taps and since then it has been running. My Point is: If Omega decides to put their name on the dial, the watch has to be superior to Swatch quality. This is what a real collab should be, now it is just borrowing a Name and a design... Sad for the Brand ...
Omega had nothing to do with the moonswatch. They even did not like the idea and did anything they could to not make it happen. The Swatchgroup was stronger in the end unfortunately. Not sure if I second Adrians opinion that both Swatch and Omega needed that Hype- injection. Also I think it did not damage OMEGA, at least not in the long run.
@@craftingmat5425 like it or not is their parent company that owns both companies. Commercially they need to make money but just how far they can milk this golden goose? As a watch collector I don't wanna see everyone wearing the same looking watch as me so I definitely don't wanna buy a speedy now let alone before
To be fair, my real moonwatch developed a fault after 1 week and would stop running occasionally. Of course, Omega replaced it, and it's obviously infinitely serviceable unlike the plastic Moonswatch.
@@simontucci8170 that's poor QC TBH. What happened if you are traveling etc? This could happened with a rep watch where the movement is assembled in poor condition, but not a gen.
@@phillipwong3754 QC has nothing to do with the crappy materials and movement. You can't pick a horrible plastic and use QC to make it good. The Swatch approach is: "Let make a lot of money using the Omega logo". And because Omega is a part of Swatch Group I will never buy another Omega watch again. That scam is too much (my personal opinion).
My first watch at 6 years old was a Swatch and I absolutely loved it! To cut a long story short, I’ve owned many watches from around the globe but I’m particularly fed up with everything that has to do with the Swatch brand including Omega which I have just recently bought and it‘s already in repair - can happen, fair enough.
What makes me mad though, is that I bought a Swatch Ivory and the crown broke (Believe me not my fault and error). I returned to swatch to have it fixed and they sent it back to me after 6 weeks saying they will not fix it with no further explanation. At the time I thought they didn’t want to do it for free, so I decided to just pay for the repair myself and resent it back to them saying I’ll cover the costs….
After waiting once again I received the watch back with the same note, that they are unwilling to repair it even if I pay. I had the watch for less that a year and having had at least 20 watches thus far being super careful with every piece and never broke a single one - I was pissed and still am after well over 5 years! Still have my first piece and over 30 now, if that adds some perspective…
Their customer service is terrible and I regret buying the omega even though I love the watch and knew Swatch had acquired Omega years ago.
I will never buy anything from the Swatch group again and will avoid buying overpriced pieces models because there is virtually no service after purchasing.
This happen to me as well.
My late father in law was a keen letter writer. He was good at it. He owned an omega seamaster for years, until it developed a fault. I can remember what it was now.
Anyway, he sent the watch ( at least 15 years old) to omega with a letter, saying how disappointed he was as a long time customer etc.
They fixed his watch and sent it back, with a brand new model as well! Swear to god.
This was about 30 years ago. Clearly, there's no way in hell this would happen now. Shows how much things have changed....not always for the better.
Customer service is one of the things that's really gone out the window since then.
@@allosaurusfragilis7782 Customer service in general has become complete dogshit.
No matter which big company you deal with, they don't seem to give a shit about their reputation anymore.
Thanks for letting us know. I purchased a Hamilton Khaki King about 3 years ago and it's a good watch tbh. I only found out recently that Hamilton is also part of that group also. I just hope nothing goes wrong with my watch should anything go wrong with it.
I’ve had a Speedmaster Pro for years and thought that a MoonSwatch would make a nice beater, but I wasn’t up for the hand to hand combat required to get one. I randomly stumbled on to the Q Timex GMT and got one of those instead and it seams I dodged a bullet. The stainless steel Timex is just brilliant…
Good choice
You definitely did.
Literally any budget Casio or Timex watch would hold up better than a happy meal Swatch.
Literally not a good comparison at all….
It sounds like you didnt want a swatch, you wanted an omega
@@borion7775 I think you misread my post. I’ve had an Omega Speedmaster Pro for years (2007 to be exact) and was looking for a daily beater. I know that the MoonSwatch and the Q Timex GMT are not comparable watches, but at the time they were the hot new things. It was too hard to get the MoonSwatch, but the Timex was easy.
@@duckmcf aaahh i see, appreciate you clarifying. That makes sense!
I initially was part of the group that lost their minds about these watches. After some time has gone by, I no longer have any desire to pick one up. That coupled with the fact that I picked up the "Seaweed" SMP yesterday, I will never pick up one of these.
I agreed with this comment as soon as I began reading it. I then agreed further when you mentioned the seaweed…I got one in June on a rubber strap and you can’t replace the real thing. I love it. Leave the plastic toys to the Instagram kids.
@@mikewhiskee3498 Agreed mate. Toys are for kids. I got the Bracelet, but have the rubber strap on order. Have to decide on deployment or tang. Which did you get?
What's the seaweed? Link?
@@benohanlon Seamaster Professional in green
I was in the same boat, I ended up buying a Casioak
Seiko 5 is an amazing watch.. im a builder had mine for years, dropped it off scaffolding the lot..
I have 4 seiko5 watch there are 50 y.o. :)
I agree my Seiko was really good and looked well.I gifted it to my dad because I knew he really wanted it.its still a decent watch and being an automatic he never has to buy a battery.
The Bulova 96A225 Lunar Pilot is a terrific watch for the money. This is the high polished version on a NATO style strap. Got mine from a US AD (+ one year additional warranty when you register online) delivered for $375. I love it (and I've owned three Speedmasters).
I went to a doctor today, I loved his Omega MoonSwatch, it looked great and I told him! Original strap. I've got a 30 year old Swatch automatic that still works.
They were just so dishonest about this release. It was supposed to be available online but then they did a rug pull on us and were only offering in Swatch stores. Who in their right mind is traveling to a Swatch store (not a ton in the US) just to purchase a $260 plastic watch? Not many people will travel to an AD to buy a watch >$10K..... If they had been honest, there would be less hype but at least no one would hate Swatch, this move has made me hate the company's guts
"Who in their right mind is traveling to a Swatch store (not a ton in the US) just to purchase a $260 plastic watch?" Apparently a lot of GenZ dummies
@@isluderea8322 😂for real 🤦
@@isluderea8322 to be fair, i still prefer shopping in person as do many others. Unless i know exactly what the product is/know what it's going to look like/feel like, etc then I would buy online.
I love the idea of this swatch/omega collab. it's been a year now since it came out and they're readily available. Honestly, forgot about the watch for a long time and am now considering getting one. Having not ever seen one in person, it's nice to actually get a feel for how it looks, feels and everything else before buying it.
i dont typically like plastic watches but, honestly this moonswatch at least here in Canada is only about $50-70 more than their regular models. At least the models that aren't all cartoony and look like they're for kids.
Thanks for your video on the Hamilton field mechanical. I got one for my 14th birthday and it is an amazing watch. I’ve got it on the harrods green broad weave B&J nato strap.
I gave mine to a friend like a fool years ago and I miss it often, I had a brown kangaroo leather nato on it that was so nice, I think HODINKEE still sells them, they’re too expensive but it was perfect because how thin the leather was, would recommend!
@@Wild_Danimal the watch came on a brown one piece leather strap and that looks ace.
Amazingly good taste for a fourteen-year-old.
@@scientistMUC79 I like 60s minis and watches.
Good news - that's a good watch. Bad news - Hamilton is owned by Swatch
Thanks to this Moonswatch I have began my watch collections, ofc without buying the very watch that make me realise there's alot of good option at that price range.
I eventually bought a Seiko Speedtimer SSC819 as my first ever watch purchase. Despite the look reembraces a Moonswatch in a titanium case and looks nothing like its predecessor (doesnt even have a automatic movement!), it inhertiage a rich historical background of the 6139 Seiko speedtimer/ the Bruce Lee's watch from the 1969(1968?), the first automatic chronograph that many believes.
I agree, I love the hype they created in the watch industry, however their follow-up after the hype leaves much to be desired. I decided instead to buy a Japanese market only Seiko SARV001, a beautiful metal mechanical watch that is as accurate as my expensive pieces. Got it shipped over to the US for less than $200 and much happier than I would have been with an expensive Swatch.
The hype created around a plastic watch, followed by the general unavailability of the watch (unless you're willing to pitch a tent in front of a swatch shop) was what gave me the final push to quit the hobby after more than 35 years of collecting. I sold my entire collection save one watch that was gifted to me including some Rolex watches (that have become unwearable because of the risk of getting robbed) and the liquidity of the money gave me more joy than my precious watches stuck in my safe had done for a long time. Watch collecting was fun until it made me feel like a paranoid Smaug the dragon guarding his treasure, and the idea that I was going to add a plastic watch to that treasure made me feel like a fool.
@@JerehmiaBoaz the Smaug phenomenon is exactly what’s preventing me from buying a “legit” luxury watch
@@JerehmiaBoazgeez, talk about an overreaction. You could've kept your collection and just not bought this watch.
@@theaussiewhinger When people stand in line to buy plastic watches and your own pretty ordinary collection has gained so much in value that you now feel uncomfortable wearing them it's time to sell because the bubble is going to burst pretty soon.
Was in awe of the idea and wanted one for my 40th at end of May but couldn’t get close to getting one. I have small wrists but talked myself round that this wasn’t an issue. Then I heard about the glass getting scratched by cardboard, some colour bleed challenges and that supply issues were not getting fixed and my love started to sour. Then I heard that Tissot were releasing the 35mm PRX. Sapphire crystal, gorgeous bracelet, pale blue sunburst dial (chef’s kiss). I now have a much better watch that looks awesome, is more suitable for my wrist and I don’t have any fear it’ll get mutilated by general wear and tear.
Jeez you dodged a bullet there!
PRX is indeed a solid choice. The quartz and the automatic version. Difinetly something to pass on to your grandchildren.
Man the PRX is class. Just got myself the green one ❤
I'm so glad I couldn't get one now, what a waste of money. Honestly a £10 F91W is more durable. You might be able to re-apply the pritstick they used to put it together. Shocking - well.
Thanks for the honest video Adrian.
And more iconic.
I have a lot of great watches and I have probably worn the moonswatch for over 120 days this year. I have the moon with a black AM band. I think its a fantastic watch. I haven't had to adjust the time much at all. It just keeps going as a quartz does. Its an easy grab and go watch when I don't want to mess with a watch winder. It looks fantastic just as it did when I bought it. I brought it to mexico. In the beach, in the pool, to work, hitting the desk, the car, falling off my desk. It is great.
When the MoonSwatch first came out I saw it listed on eBay for more than the original steel version, and thought why would someone pay that for a cheap speedmaster when you could have the original? But people did. Having seen the quality of Swatch in the 80’s and how they aged over the course of a year on the wrist. I was not about to buy into the hype. Omega has some great watches and you’re far better off saving for the classics, and this confirms it.
I understand MoonSwatches not only age on your wrist, they discolor your wrist.
From the watch case or the Velcro band?
I’m wondering bc I got one today from the store and don’t like the strap design and want to put an after market band.
@@larrysmith6797They discolour your wrist hair too.
@@jacknjill3000I would get a watch strap that can also be used on a proper watch.
Otherwise, you'll be stuck with a useless strap once this piece of a crap toy watch breaks down.
Could this lack of build quality be a reason they retracted their online launch?
No, the initial release created a huge bubble from scalping. If Swatch released these for online sale, the bubble would have popped and people would have been very angry. All the hype would have turned into very negative press.
@@nepats3669 instead they made the right call and everyone is happy 💩
Well said and points clearly and eruditely made as always 🙏🏻 On the launch day in London, after not getting one, I went out that afternoon and found a Seiko baby tuna compact diver, a homage to the grown up and iconic tuna diver, for around the same money; far more capable and robust than the moonswatch and iconic in its own right. Completely agree about Seiko 5, they are fantastic value and the CWC G10 isn’t even a homage, you are getting the actual MOD approved watch! Not a cereal box version (as coined by one of the commentators on Hoodinkee). As for your swatch, have you tried a warranty claim? I’m sure they’ll sort you out 👍🏻 I’ve had a few swatches and they often replace the watch entirely within warranty period. A swatch is not serviceable other than battery changes. There are some ninja watchmakers out there that specialise in swatch and perform mods etc but just bear in mind when you buy any swatch it’s not serviceable at all.
My Seiko automatic 5 sports watch I still hold in high regard,it was my first foray into autos and it did not disappoint.once I moved up to prestige watches but I still consider the S5 a very good stylish watch, especially for the price.
Thank you! I was really thinking about getting the Mission To The Sun and am going to consider something else. Thanks again!
Oh god I was just looking for this watch...thanks for the video! Love it!
When the Moonswatch first appeared I looked at it and thought, "That's a $50 watch with $250 worth of branding". After seeing one in person and talking to more than one person who bought one just to have it fall apart in weeks I realize I was being too generous. It's a $20 watch, and even that might be going a bit too far as I can buy a $20 Casio that's far more durable and keeps better time.
I have a $20 dollar Benyar Chronographer and it's miles ahead of this crap. I'm not going to mention other real watches like Casio, Citizen or Orient (all of them still costing less than MoonSwatch LOL).
So much bullshit in such a short comment... Swatches are durable to begin with, and these ones made with Bioceramic even more so. Definitely worth its money.
Casio 91w is currently $15 on Amazon. Ive had 1 for around 2 years now still going strong. Plus it regularly beats out Rolex, Nomos, and Seiko watches for time on my wrist so yeah, its an absolutely crazy high value for money compared to any other watch.
You’re still over valuing it. You can get a Chinese made quarts Chronograph that doesn’t fall apart like this for $3 on aliexpress
@@dziltener bioceramic is just cheap platic . i ve never had a swatch that lasted more than a year before breaking. Swatch is all design and absolute shit built quality
Hi Adrian, great video and food for thought. One question came to mind for me watching your segment though; did you contact Swatch to have it repaired or replaced? I'm assuming it does fall within the warranty no? It looks to me from your video that the bio ceramic cracked and could have been a batch that was improperly mixed or didn't cool right or even had bubbles form, weakening the final product. Only one third of the mix is ceramic and I would have to say that mixing ceramic and plastic can't be the easiest to do industrially. I would be interested in knowing if Swatch does make you whole and corrects this unfortunate fail.
I came on to ask the same question
Yeah swatch will repair or replace under warranty I am pretty sure.
@@kls1912 Unless he somehow got it from a third-party or he thinks that the warranty won’t cover what might seem to be careless use?
@@brianmccord7387 yeah fair enough for the 3rd party but if he bought at swatch pretty sure it will be covered
It will be interesting to see what happens to speedmaster sales in the next 2-5 years. I've always wanted a speedmaster but never had the courage to purchase one. I think my Mission to Mercury "gateway watch" might just push me over the threshold - the OxS watch pusher that didn't fail.
I have never said this before,but I TOLD YOU SO!!
Swatch build quality versus Casio G-Shock build quality highlights the difference between Swiss and Japanese manufacturers. The Japanese do not have any disdain for the lower end of the watch market. Swatch should have owned the lower end of the watch market given how meteoric their start was. Instead, Swatch has ultimately declined reputation wise to insignificance while Casio G-Shock moves from strength to strength.
Well said.
Hard to beat Casio, value for money is excellent.
Always love influencer who is willing to share their mistake knowing that this will not benefit himself but will save others from the BS
I have the Misson to Pluto. I like it. I liked it even more after I swapped out the nato for a rubber strap. It's a nice summer watch.
I have had a MoonSwatch Jupiter for over a month now and absolutely love it. I haven’t took off from my wrist. Coming from a Rolex collector.
Nice to see someone in these comments who 1) knows what they're talking about and 2) isn't a complete snob.
I loved the idea behind it, but once I learned it was a plastic watch with 50m WR for $250 that you have to jump through hoops to get, I quickly lost interest.
It’s a really really great toy watch. It’s almost like a real watch-can you believe it? Amazing work. It’s the best toy watch ever
It's the most expensive toy watch ever too.
I'm happy to have picked up an official moonwatch professional a few years ago before the prices went up.
I have just finished watching your video when I went to check on mine and lo and behold the pusher is missing can’t find it anywhere LOL!!! but I’ll have to go back to swatch and change it. How bloody funny!!
First time I saw the hype, I realised that’s exactly what it was - a hyped product with ‘name’ recognition and not much else. Yes, the design almost apes the Speedy, but if you want a cheap Speedmaster, the Bulova Lunar Pilot is a far better option, and still only ten percent the price of the Omega.
P.S. concerning the Speedy servicing, if you don’t try and kill it, and have a regular rotation of other watches, ten year service intervals are easily attainable.
when you say a regular rotation of other watches, do you mean don't wind the speedy every day to prolong the internals/lubricant? or do you more just don't wear it everyday - since i don't know what difference that makes as it's not an automatic?
@@stormzybanksy More the latter. I have a rotation of about twelve or fourteen pieces - not including G shocks - so I might get periods where I’ll wear the Speedy for a month, then go to my old MkII, or then use a Seiko turtle if I’m on holidays. You get the picture.
@@MyMarsham ah I gotcha. But just so I’m clear, if it’s not about the internals, then how does wearing or not wearing a watch effect the service intervals?
@@stormzybanksy If it’s not running all the time, it increases the intervals. But it’s always good to wind any watch occasionally to keep the oil viscous.
I have no regrets buying 2, this watches hype got me back in collecting again, it's a relatively cheap watch I'm not going to cry when it breaks I have accepted that, but the hype this watch generated really made me feel like I was buying my first watch again all over ✌️
I have mission to Mars and Jupiter and lots of other watches. People just need to buy and enjoy or not buy and be quiet
Stop supporting the illuminati
Haters really need to chill about this watch. I also have 2 - they're fun and great conversation starters.
Love the honesty. It’s an absolute travesty what they’ve done to the moon watch
I had a similar experience with a Tag Aqua-racer. Had it 5 mins and whilst cleaning it the bezel pinged off. Sent it off to be fixed and by the time it came back I’d lost trust and just sold it. The emotional connection was gone and I was worried what else would go next. Have Tudor Pelagos now. Amazing difference.
The difference is that TAG pretend that they have in-house movements and that they're more prestigious than they are. Don't get me wrong, I love the Aquaracer *in spite of this* ... but the MoonSwatch is ... just a cheap, fun watch ... and it makes no claims to the contrary.
Glad to hear you’ve accepted that it’s simply a lump of plastic. Overhyped, overpriced and hopefully the relentless listings on eBay will slow up!
Ive got a normal Speedmaster reduced and the Moonswatch feels like somthing you will get with a Happy Meal.
Its utterly cheaply made imho
Thanks for the video, big fan of your channel. cheers mate!
I vividly remember the time when I was trying to find one for my brother's birthday and failed, because every time a shipment of those watches came to a shop in Warsaw, there was a huge line of people outside of it, waiting to pounce at the limited number of watches available. The sad part of it was that there was virtually no possibility to order one, even after offering to make a down payment. And even though I was really fond of the idea behind this piece at the time, I've changed my mind quite quickly after reading a number of reviews highlighting the poor quality of the product and how unfair the pricing was in light of that (even before it's skyrocketed as a result of the manufacturer not keeping up with the demand).
My black Moonswatch is now three weeks old and still perfect. I had the strap switched around as I felt it had been fitted wrong way round. Availability here in the Swatch shops in Zurich is no problem. Walk in, choose colour, pay and take it away.
Well you still have a few weeks left before the pusher falls off or the dye starts to transfer on your skin, and when it stops working in a few years, in the trash it goes since it’s a disposable watch.
@@joeycan6801 let a man enjoy his stuff if he choses so.. dont be so hurt
Watch still working well? I purchased one about 2 weeks back
updates please! @@hippocampus_
@@joeycan6801 Lmao what? You can literally have it serviced... The problem is that people wear these watches to work and shit, then complain when they get scratched up. These are not work watches, they aren't even daily watches. You wear them on weekend outings and stuff like that. I've had mine for a few years now and it's still in perfect shape. Stop wearing them like G shocks and maybe they'll stop messing up on y'all.
I appreciate this video. Now I think I will hold off on getting it. I was gonna pay a little over retail for one until I can get my first true luxury watch. But now I think I will just wait. I watched your Tudor Black Bay 58 videos last week and I’m so glad I did! That’s definitely the watch for me! And nothing else will do. A hold over poorly made MoonSwatch just won’t do anymore.
Definitely don’t pay over retail. I’m glad I tried it, but I’d be really annoyed if I’d paid a premium.
not sure either anymore, so just bought a casioak b2100 instead. flipping amazing for the price.
If you like homage watches go for a Steinhart or San Martin and save a few thousand over getting a Tudor homage.
Pick it up used! I saved 30% on my Tudor.
@@whereRbearsTeeth agreed. Always buy the original. But if you must have a homage don’t waste thousands when you can buy a half decent one for 500. Tudor are a luxury homage brand - it’s weird anyone would spend their actual hard earned money on them.
I am so glad I saw this before going ahead and getting the moon swatch.
Back on form with this video - love it
Yes it always did seem a bit fragile. The design was never meant to be made from plastic. I know you can change the strap, but I would have been worried to break off the lugs when removing the metal springbars. 😂- It’s just for putting it in a cabinet maybe, hoping it doesn’t start to crumble one day. Keeping it out of the sun is probably a good idea. While I agree you can get a metal watch for less - it’s never going to be that crazy candy Speedmaster. That crazy experiment feel is the only motivation for me to ever get one, not because I think it’s better than a Seiko 5.
God look and if you can spare throwing your money for this junk....
I’ll stick with my Speedmaster, thanks for sharing Adrian
I have a few swatches, love them all.
Seiko zimbe 13 with a gold endmill bracelet is my go to watch. Absolutely amazing.
My moon swatch is perfect 🤩 I wasn’t daft enough too buy one😂
I wanted one of these, then got shat on when they announced I'd have to travel the length of the country to a swatch store. With that I decided UP YOURS and bought a Zelos instead. Round of applause, epic marketing.
Zelos is sooo good for the price! Absolutely love mine.
@@oh_io.watches yep, better built than a plastic moon swatch 👍
Great video and lovely strap on your watch. Would you tell where you did get it ?
Did the pusher work after you superglued it back on? I superglue everything (even when I cut myself) so I'm with you on that method of fixing it. Don't judge, but I couldn't get a Moonswatch because I live in Ohio and we don't have a Swatch store anywhere near (the nearest is NYC, I think) so I bought a clone out of China for $82. I'm interested to see if the quality is as bad or if, as I'm being told, the better clones are actually well-made.
They want you to have that "luxury purchase experience" where you travel into a busy city, camp out with a bunch of scalpers, and then fight your way into a store to hopefully snag a plastic watch that may break in a few months. Once it breaks, it would be a damn shame if all you had to remember the experience was a quick and efficient online checkout.
“online” 💀
I have the all-black one. I love it, it's very cool - but to be completely honest I waited until some of the hype had died down and I knew exactly what I was getting myself into. I love Speedmasters - I have one from 1970 that I wear almost every day and it's clearly built like a tank. I love vintage Swatch and collect those too. I know (from owning mint Swatches from the 1980s) that when you look after an affordable plastic watch they can and will last for decades. I think some people bought the MoonSwatch expecting it to be a good daily beater - but in reality the MS is Sooooo delicate. Any slight prang will damage the 'crystal' or case. It's weirdly my most fragile watch - I treat it like a vintage dress watch. Even though that's strange and not for everyone, it looks great, I enjoy wearing it and talking about it, and I know if I keep it in mint condition in future it will be a classic and regarded piece of Swatch and Omega history. I think that last point is unquestionable, because whether you like the MoonSwatch or not, it became a significant part of both brands' history the moment it was released.
I'm not sure about that last point. The fact that MS was all the rage for a few month doesn't make it prominent from historical perspective.
@@tonygluk1 Thanks for your reply. I definitely see what you’re saying about the hype. What I mean is that I cannot imagine any book or document of either brands’ histories that would omit this bizarre and strange chapter. Particularly the historical context of the pandemic and the fact Omega didn’t get its bump from Bond or the Olympics. If it did I don’t think it would be a complete history. That’s all I’m saying. If the prices don’t increase I could care less - that’s not why I collect watches. I’m just a nerd.
I have this exact Moonswatch, what width nato do you have on it? Love the look.
Fun novelty watch with pricy entry ticket. Just got the Earth. It does feel light and cheep. But the chase shape and Omega logo makes me smile with no real explanation...
I was really close to get the Mission to the Moon on launch day. And for the first month I was really into it. After the lies (not online anymore), and the stubbornness of only selling it in selected stores and no queues I wasn’t that interested. Then I saw countless videos showing how bad it actually is, and I really would not throw away £200 on that. Alpha makes a Speedy homage with a Venus manual movement for that same amount. That is an actual column wheel chronograph, and steel made. Way better way to spend your money.
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Is homage the new accepted term for fakes? All i see with Alpha's are complete rip offs of Rolex watches lmao.
I’ve always loved the concept of the moonswatch but I’ve always said (and posted) that they are too expensive for what you get. You can get get an orient Kamasu with automatic movement, sapphire crystal, all steel, including bracelet and 200 meters water resistance for less than 200€. Hell, you can get a swatch irony sistem51 for less than 200€. I have a swatch irony that’s almost 20 years old that’s been banged up for 20 years and it’s still running beautifully. I just change the battery when ever needed and that’s it. The movement in the moonswatch is a very good quartz movement that will last forever but the watch build is very poor.
Yeah, I would even say that the 30 year old quartz and automatic Swatches are still good quality(I own a couple).
I knew right from the start that the MoonSwatch was just one big overpriced and incredibly cheaply made marketing ploy. How all the Watch youtubers could hype such an embarassement was beyond me. I bought an Orient Envoy (a sort-of Breguet Classique hommage with an open heart) for around 150$. It comes with a stainless steel case, a leather strap and an automatic (EPSON) movement. Anyone who thinks that the MoonSwatch is a cheap Omega Speedmaster alternative, should go see a psychiatrist.
I love the way these look, but ya, after reading the reviews no thanks. Just noticed you guys commenting on Orients and I love my Orient pilot, certainly wouldn't trade it for one of these unless I could flip it to someone for like triple retail.
Thanks for the “heads up!” Just picked up the Moon, Jupiter and Mars on a trip to Kota Kinabalu and as an active collector of watches through 3 decades, will treat my new “treats” more as dress watches than my other sturdier, steely build pieces. On a lighter note, the $260 investment per watch will last longer than some 7 bottles of decent wines over the course of time. Again - thanks for the “heads up!”
did you return it to swatch for repair? they have warranty right? tell me if you did.. I have 4 missions.. sun, mercury, venus and earth.. also have been a swatch user since late 80’s until now and still have my 1992 swatch.. just recently took to swatch for new battery and strap.. they don’t charge for replacing the battery on all swatch.
My 30 year old vintage quartz Cartier still works without a hitch. That’s what a real watch is
What I can say is, wow… if others had this interaction I’d have to imagine this is a negative in the long run. Could you imagine some young person who wants a real Speedmaster gets this to satisfy the want for a few years till they can afford a real Speedmaster? Then this breaks on them? I’d imagine they probably wouldn’t hold a real Speedmaster in such high regard anymore.
Your comment is beyond comical. 😂
Who cares, i like watches, but its not like the world is going to stop spinning if a young person doesnt want a actual Speedmaster. Actually thats a good thing in my books.
How come you always do something to your Omegas? I remember you also managed to scratch the AR coating. I don’t know how with a regular use. 👏
I fell in love with the design, then read the first comments about the moonswatch and it was clear to better buy the pagani design hommage of the moonwatch. Payed hundret bugs and im happy with it.
"There’s no emotion in online buying. It’s a carefully produced Swiss Made watch and not a commodity" - Nick Hayek, Swatch Group CEO, explaining why the Moonswatch would not be sold online.
And yet nearly every other Swatch is available online, which begs the question: are they all poorly made commodities?
The Moonswatch is as "Swiss Made" as a package of Swiss Miss hot chocolate 😂
That was the biggest watch BS from 2021.
There was a lot of emotion in driving 200 miles to the nearest watch store a day early then fighting with 1,000 people cutting in line for 12 hours only to find out the store only had 100 MonnSwatches to sell.
Dude, I love this watch. It's fun and cool. I actually wear this watch more than my other watches purely cause it's a fun watch to wear. Shouldn't be deeper than that. I haven't had any issues with it at all. Apart from the strap getting dirty from my wrist but that's about it
update?
still wear it almost every day! No issues at all and its been 11 months now @@goliaboi
Thank you. You just saved me money.
Picked one up today and I really like it. I had a 3861 last year but I didn’t gel with it. I only have room in my collection for one luxury watch and it wasn’t going to be it. I do enjoy the look of it though and the Moonswatch gives me similar vibes for a fraction of the price. My explorer will get 95% of my wrist time but this is a fun watch to throw on now and again. Btw, I actually like the strap - as some others have mentioned, swap the part with the omega logo to the 12 position and it becomes much more comfortable.
I was very open-minded about Swatch but upon ordering a watch, I honestly thought "they must be having a laugh." The quality was so cheaply done, the dial was literally paper stickers. Never will I ever waste money on another Swatch. For the same price range, Casio is by far a superior option.
Oh, I think Swatch collaboration with McDonald Happy Meal free gift will be more appropriate.
Seiko's pretty good too.
I love the idea of the MoonSwatch… and I’d even pay the retail for one even if it may be overpriced for what it is… however I have absolutely no intention to travel to a store with the added costs of getting there and back to pick one one up (in the hopes the one I want is in store). So for me, I very much doubt one will ever sit in my collection. And I’m ok with that 🤷🏻♂️
I reached the same conclusion. Plus the quality problems tarnishes Swatch’s image.
I live near a couple of stores but even still, I’m not going through the hype and queues, it’s undignified 😄
@@manuel_winde very good point, totally agree.
it's a good watch .. many enjoy they favorites from the line . Still going strong
For me I look after my watches and after owning a omega swatch Jupiter for some time now I have no regrets, I purchased the watch because I love the colours and how it’s not flashy due to the production and price, I still love my tudors, omega sea-master and Rolex oyster perpetual, but when it comes to just want to wear a watch that doesn’t have anything flashy about it.
Love the idea, love the design and have investigated getting one. But I just can't justify spending either $250.00 at retail with them *only* being available at a Swatch boutique or getting one off of eBay for regularly 2x or 3x retail and not being guaranteed your watch will be legit. As many have said below, it's essentially a $25.00 watch with $225.00 worth of branding & hype. There are simply too many other better, more affordable, better built, durable options out there. It's a shame really because these are stunners to look at.
You think real Omegas coat 7k to manufacture? At the end of the day, those too are $2500 with $4500 worth of branding.
@@Jaggedhalo66 Of course they do.
I wanted to buy one when they came out, but not standing in line during the pandemic. Then they cancelled the online sale. Then I heared about the straps, and the colour transfer from the blue model. And that was it for me.
In the meantime you see at least five moonswatches online per week in forums, for about 300 to 350 euros (unworn, as they say….)
And now this.
But thanks anyway. I know how this feels, from buying watches, and other things. It happens. First I thought that AET would be great, but the Bamford guy ruined it for me. And I like the Bamford Milsub so much…
By the way: Great video on the Tudor Ranger! I ´ m waiting for mine, hopefully nothing will start to fall off….
It was exactly the same story for me. Also wanted one but could not get my hands on one (and I was absolutely not willing to pay over MSRP).
Finally it was good not to waste money on it.
Is something like this covered under the service warranty? I just picked up a pluto and they have a 2 year warranty that comes with the purchase. Just curious if this is something that can be remedied, even though it should have happened in the first place.
Have they restocked the watch yet? As far as i'm aware they only delivered the initial release stock?
The best thing about the MoonSwatch is that it introduced me to the MoonWatch. Walked into an Omega Boutique asking for a MoonSwatch😅, found out how pretty the MoonWatch really is
whoa... that cost 20x more!
I really wanted to buy a MoonSwatch until Swatch halted online sales. Product issues like pushers breaking off and bio ceramic bleeding into customers’ wrists doesn’t help the brand neither. Good concept with poor execution. I rather by a Seiko 5 GMT homage watch for a little more money in steel.
That Seiko GMT is twice the price no?
@@turbochoochoo I understand the Seiko is ~$300 more. The MoonSwatch is $260, and the GMT is $475 in steel. I rather pay slightly more money and get the steel watch with Seiko’s quality. Plus Swatch made a fun watch hard to get which is not good marketing for a watch that Swatch said would be highly available.
Seiko GMT is also not available in the market :D
@@yamen1977 I am frustrated that it is hard to get now. Seiko is making more, and it is not limited (unless Seiko reneges like Swatch).
Or a Seiko Flight Master dam that's a total spec monster for the $$$
I have the mercury model and it keeps time quite well. I haven't had an issue with it and I realized it is the longest lasting watch I used (as I usually change watches often out of boredom). The only thing is the strap broke easily and had to replace it.
How long have had the watch and how often do you wear it? I really want the snoopy watch. But if the shit is gonna break that easily I’d rather save the money
@@AngryPaisan I wear it everyday consistently since I bought 2 years ago. Never had an issue, chronograph works perfect and never changed batteries. I bought the Moon and Jupiter but kept them for collection. The snoopy black is nice.
I am loving this! Thing is, I was so sure,I went and bought a 39.95 plastic Invicta which,you guessed it,broke in two weeks! oops!!
I think the biggest problem with the Omega MoonSwatch is that with a big name (Omega) comes big expectations. At £250 it's just never going to be able to live up to these expectations.
To be fair, for 250 you can buy great watches which are very reliable
@@Sammeeee oh I agree 100%, but in the context of Omega £250 wouldn't even buy you the box a Speedmaster comes in. An Omega half link is £175.
They should a full blown Omega version of the Moonswatch. Metal bezels, coaxial, the whole nine. I think they will sale great. Omega already has many version of the speedmaster already what is another few more.
Just a piece of plastic for £250 😉
I don't own a Moonswatch myself. But could it be that it is only the case which is made from polymer ceramics and not the pushers.
Hi Adrian…did you get my email?
My Speedmaster Pro (Hesalite) had a pusher issue. It unscrewed itself, Never found it. Sent it in under warranty. They replaced both pushers and gave the watch a complete service even though it was only 1 1/2 years old. But when I got it back, it was gaining a massive amount of time daily. The conclusion was that it had probably been exposed to a strong magnetic field somewhere in transit. Not my fault, but not Omega's either. Regardless, they gave me a new watch. You get what you pay for. Can't imagine them doing any of that for the Moon Swatch.
Hey similar thing happened to my omega speedMaster pro (sapphire sandwich). One of the pushers came off. Of course omega serviced the watch under warranty including changing both the pushers and the crown. I had owned the watch for just 2.5 months
I can totally imagine them doing that for a MoonSwatch as well... not because they actually care about customer service or because it's a luxury product, but simply because it has a 2 year warranty and will only cost them a few dollars to replace.
You would get a new one assuming they could supply- Swatch watches are not repairable - they are not forever watches, that is not the Swatch identity - cool colorful fun and inexpensive.
Any tips on where to buy a pre-owned watch? In the market for a cheap Seiko 5 to put a Nato strap onto.
My Sistem51 Ash died a quick death as well. It was partly my fault, but that had some hype at the time as well. My mistake was putting bug spray on and putting a watch with an acrylic crystal on the back right back on a few mins later. The next day the plastic was all fogged up. Since then, even when fully wound, it will just stop sometimes. That was $200 USD flushed down the toilet pretty much. No more plastic watches for me.
The hype was real. I almost bought one but I chose to buy my first g-shock square which is exactly like what Adrian Barker has (DW5600 HR 1-DR) and this watch will last for years. Well atleast this moonswatch hype brought a lot of people to the world of watch collecting in a world full of apple watches. 🙂
You did sooo good there, mate.
"... this moonswatch hype brought a lot of people to the world lf watch collecting ..." - and they will never be interested again in watches because of the garbage they got
@@theguild42 on my part, it is the Seiko SKX that brought me to the rabbit hole. I'll be wearing it on extreme conditions without having to worry about breaking it as easy as the moonswatch 😁
@@artekdote Agree, a proper watch is a good starting point but this scam ... sorry, MoonScam ...
Casio >>> Swatch, all the way. Especially the G-Shock series.
The $35 fake I bought is definitely more solid than this, ceramic case and mineral glas. 😂
That's just sad -- it's like buying a higher-quality fake of a Happy Meal.
@@halfsourlizard9319 yes, agreed
The moonswatch was the push I needed; It ended my doubts about buying a PD 1701... I immediately bought 2: Alaska and the classic (black dial and white hands and indexes).
I would have lost my shit if a pusher broke off my watch as normal wear and tear. The games with the distribution of the moonswatch completely killed it for me. I wouldn't buy one if the offer was in my face. Omega should just bring more colors to the speedmaster line. The Dark/Blue/White/Grey side of the moon variants were well received.
Great point about the cost of the real Moonwatch! I bought my Speedy to last a lifetime and to use it as designed. I recently took it hiking where I encountered dust, heat, rain and hail. The Speedy took it all in stride.
Point is, if you want a Speedmaster then buy the real thing. Cheap substitutes will never scratch the itch.
This is still 5% of the cost
And only worth .5% of the cost
Amazing input!
I had a sh*t experience with mine as well. Obviously had to wait months to get my hands on one, and right out of the box, the movement alignment was sh*t. Resetting the chronograph, the second hand lands between 11 and 12. Sent in in for service a week ago, still waiting to see how it all plays out. I don’t have high hopes.
I had a friend who recently bought a speedmaster from somewhere in the early 2000’s who’s pusher fell off after he bought it. No one could fix it and he had to send it to omega. Omega did a full service and repair. $1100 and 3 months later he got it back and 3 days later the crown broke off. So……
The speedmaster pushers are easily replaced. There's plenty of watchmakers who can service it. Omega servicing is nearer £800, independents half that. My Speedmaster is now 55 years old, it's a quality watch and not what you suggest. Is your nose growing?
@@bikeman123 independent watchmakers couldn’t get the parts they needed.
I call BS. Any competent watchmaker can fix that while you wait. Plus, a full service on a Speedmaster is only $750 through Omega. That price includes new pushers and crown too.
When the entire thing began, I had 5 seconds of excitement followed by that gut feeling this was going to be a junk watch. More and more reports appear each week that this is in fact a junk watch. In hindsight, my Bulova Lunar Pilot was the same price, and I’m now due for my first battery change, which cost me a whopping $2.80 to replace.
I just bought the polished version on the NATO. It's a REAL watch. I've had mine for a month and it hasn't lost or gained a second according to the atomic clock in Colorado. + - 10 per year seems to be real.
@@larrysmith6797 I don’t think the accuracy of the movement is the issue here. It’s quartz, so the performance you’re getting is fine. The problem is the quality of materials in addition to the general longevity of those materials.
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10 seconds/year is mighty impressive compared to the usual 15 seconds/month.
@@larrysmith6797
Smart thinking, good choice.
@@e28forever30 it’s very accurate. However, I also prefer a watch to last. For the same price I have a Bulova Lunar Pilot.
My chrono button has just broken off so I found your video. How is it since you glued it back on?
Also, yours is the same colourway as mine so going to take a look at your NATO straps
I liked the price comparison to the steel version!
I was in Rome yesterday while on holiday and I thought I’d check out the MoonSwatch. Heck, maybe even walk out of the Swatch boutique with one. Walking round the corner in to Via del Corso I saw there was a big queue outside of the shop. Apparently there still is high demand for this watch. To be honest, I would have bought one to if I wasn’t ready to wait for an hour in 40 degrees centigrade. Now I’m glad I didn’t.
Imagine working in 40 degrees c. That’s Kenya for you
@@Mpayne1472 I made polyester for 11 years and that was a regular temp in our plant. Comfort is relative.
@@Mpayne1472 I know, first world problems.
I walked into swatch in houston today and got a pluto
@@Mpayne1472 I meant my problem. I know what your saying, but what does that have to do with buying a watch?