EU4 Basics | Personal Unions - An In-Depth Guide | Part 1 | PU tutorial for Beginners and Experts
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- čas přidán 22. 09. 2018
- I have been thinking about making a guide for PUs. And finally its here. This guide is based on the post of PDX forums (link below). Hope it helps you understand the complex PU mechanics just a bit better!
Original post : forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...
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This was so helpful! Yesterday I was even able to PU Lithuania as Poland :)
Nice bro
Wow
For that just wait and if Lithuania gets In a war restart because it will take awhilr
this us a joke right?
Nice joke
Pretty new, accidentally pu'd Russia as Byzantium. Bye Ottomans.
Good luck holding on to that PU unless you were able to grow outside your starting development
I retook Greece the Balkans and anatolia, but the whole game I had to spend monarch points developing random siberian provinces
@@garrettsimms5163 You got lucky then. I was shooting for Mare Nostrum and at the very end Russia broke alliance that we had for 150+ years, rivaled me, and then joined the coalition I had. Basically had WW1 taking the last province I needed (Zeeland). Luckily Kilwa, Delhi, Korchin all had good games. Delhi and Korchin kept Russia distracted while Kilwa took on the Super Tutons and I was dealing with super Maidenberg and the rest of the HRE and Britian. It was a very interesting end game. Too bad I was still kinda new and wasn't too great at managing coalitions yet.
@@martinaustin6230
What were you playing as?
@@vinifalleroliveira Byzantium
In my first Eu4 game, The Commonwealth Pu'ed Spain and thus got its colonies in the Americas. I was like
R.I.P
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9:00 "This concludes the basics
Me: *shocked Pikachu face"
i think thats the best "eu 4 guide" channel i have seen so far. clear and important informations only and good narration. man i love ur conntent :)
i woud love to see some achivment guide, and i belive i ll :)
I‘ve got one time an Phase 1 inheritance as Great Britian on Portugal, I just was confused when I saw the Red on the Iberian Penisula like 20 Years after it happened xD
Funny and super informative, thank you! I have to confess that after 1500+ hours I have never really spent the time to learn the PU mechanics much more than royal marriage->claim throne->succession war. Keep making these videos! :)
Just a heads up, unless this recently changed, only the junior partner has to be Christian, as long as you have the same dynasty.
Technically yes, if the RM partner changes religion. I purposely left it out (and few other minor things tbh). This channel is geared towards new to intermediate level players and I think this guide is already complex enough and it didn't need a lot of asterisks. Thanks for the feedback! :)
really appreciate what youre doing, almost every question I have about eu4 you have a video on
Quick tip I think is useful - If you accidentally right click the disputed concession tab, saving and reloading the game will bring it back :)
A good example of Inheritance is Milan at game start. Try it as Austria e.g. In most games you will have Phase 1 active shortly after 1444. It's the highest chance to inherit a country I know.
Try Imereti, next to Georgia. With the 1444 start, their ruler is 62 years old (give or take a year) and if you´re playing an orthodox country, always royal marriage them. I´d say it´s a fifty percent chance of a pu, plus with the succession war you might get another vassal (as happened when I played Wallachia and georgia contested).
I just lost a game due to France getting a PU over me as Ireland. I had no clue why but this video explains everything excellently!
"If we can't GET them out, we'll BREED them out." ~ William Longshanks.
By far the best EU4 PU guides in youtube
Got PU over France as Savoy and trying now to keep them happy thank you for this video
i thought i suck at English, i saw this one, you speak so clearly i never missed any word thanks for tips
This video is actually at that post in Forum. Good job. :)
I think I will stick with something easier to understand, like the Riemann hypothesis.
I've played 200+ hours and finally decided to start looking for expert tutorials.
This is the only aspect of the game I’m great at.
Recently got a lucky union over Byzantium as Moldova during my Dracula's Revenge achievement run, right after the first war with the Ottomans. It was pretty awesome.
In a recent game, I experienced the true power of PU as Austria. The paradox gods were definitely on my side. I forced PU on Bohemia and Hungary at start. I was lucky during the reformation since 3 out of the 6 centres of reformation spawned outside HRE(2 in Sweden and 1 in commonwealth), so that saved me a lot of trouble. I pushed back the Ottomans from the Balkans with ally Spain, released Byzantium as subject, put relative on throne and then force PU'd them and fed them all of Greek and Anatolian regions. Then I got an event where Spain just declared that they are putting a Hapsburg as heir, and then you know what that means. I PU'd Spain as well. By now I was able to Revoke Privilegea as well(that really helped because Spain was becoming quite unruly because I had literally not made much expansion whatsoever and thus was comparatively very weak to Spain). Also, all of the Italian regions except for the papal state(I wanted good relations for curia control) was under me, my vassal Ferrara and my junior partner Mantua. After winning the elective monarchy in commonwealth for probably 3-4 times, it finally turned itself into a kingdom instead of an elective monarchy, and you know what that means. I PU'd the Commonwealth. After that I vassalized Ottomans, convert them and did the same as the Byzantine and fed them the mamluks. The sheer power of my forces was unreal! That was my best and most enjoyable EU4 experience thus far. But ofcourse, as a result I ended up spreading invest all over Europe. The world was in such a condition that without having extended by a single province, the papal state was being considered the 8th great power!
-invest- incest
Sure I wasn't able to get the Burgundian inheritance, but I got something better since Burgundy with most of its provinces had become a part of the HRE by the time of revoke privilegea.
Ah! Just got a Hapsburg on the Portuguese throne, and you know what that means...
Very good and informative video
Wow, but everybody I marry gets a heir :(
I was thinking about making FM and EU4 videos because I thought I would be the only channel... well played my good sir... well played
You should still go for it :)
awesomestkid dude they have been so many ither guys that uploaded before he did so it doesnt matter go ahead and upload
Whoa dude! 'Heiry' Video... You did neglect to offer, though, that folks that think the subject is too simple can put vid playback speed on 2x! :) Great video - and well done. 1600 plus hour player here, just realizing I knew even less than I thought I did. Sub'd.
Got around 200 hours in game, after surviving a punic war Austria's monarch died and I had to fight a succession war against Spain. Won it thankfully. Glad it happened, because I learned the value of pu's, and it put me on track for my first wc hopefully.
So, phase 1 won't happen to a player since a player-controlled nation can't be inherited?
Phase 1 still happens. Just player nations can't get inherited.
@@RadioRes
So in a Phase 1 player nation with less than 15 provinces, a local noble will always succeed?
“It’s one of the least understood mechanics in eu4, even by players who have hundreds of hours”
You mean thousands of hours with a wc under my belt?
same here. rarely get PUs got 2k hours in the game rofl.
First!!! Thanks foe the helpful content and explaining the stuff simple enough for newbes and for people with game time that want to understand the game better
Really glad I stumbled on your channel, How about a great Britain guide?
Its on the list. Thanks!
Thank you.... I never understood PU's.... I want PU ower Russia! Because why not? :D
Your a legend mate
I have been playing for years and got so fed up trying and failing to get pu's I mostly just gave up on them completely and focused on playing outside Europe.
I've played 500 hours now so I guess it's around time I actually learn how PU's work
"This concludes the basics" - I've picked the wrong game to learn...
The problem is that you are often friend with them and so you have to break alliance etc to get to the war
I had to check to make sure I wasnt watching this video in 2x speed
i've recently seen an heirless Hungary, with a RM but different dynasty to France, have the tooltip of being inheirted by France. This Hungary had their starting provinces, which number 27, so i'm not sure your phase 1 info is correct
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playing as castile the Iberian wedding triggered really early. after i accepted i got a trigger that Portugal broke their PU O_O. idk what happened but i instantly knocked the alliance off and took the hit to declare war. easy victory and instantly the strongest country right out of the gate. even more so when we all started colonization
Great video dude i hope you will get more views, i still have a question tho;
,sometimes in late-game i have a really good dynasty spread, and for my last game i was playing as Prussia and got my Dynasty installed in Portugal and France. France had a low claim heir and I was allied with a royal marriage to them. What I decided to do was to claim their throne and break my alliance so I could attack them with my PU CB once the 5 years truce would end. Unfortunately, idk why but their Ruler instantly died when I did this and they had a really negative opinion of me(which is normal). But when their ruler died i also lost my PU CB and found myself with a lost ally and a -150 relationship modifier with them. Then they rivaled me and even if I had my dynasty on their throne i could never get the chance to have another royal marriage with them (-200 relationship).
-So what I believe is that they instantly broke the royal ties with me when they saw I claimed their throne, which made me lose my CB on them. If this is correct do you have an idea how to manage this kind of situation? And if this is incorrect can you guess what happened? Thx for you vid and sorry for my terrible english. thx if you can answer
Thanks and your english is fine!
Not sure why you lost the claim throne CB there, but I have heard that its a bit buggy in current patch. Just from what I have read from others recent experience.
If you still have the dynasty, you can rival France back. And if in future stars align again, and someone claims their throne, you will be called into a succession war.
I usually end up breaking truce, if I have a chance to get a PU on someone big like France.
@@RadioRes Thx for your answer. I still don't know what happened but anyway... xD. Your video helped me improve a lot, i got Denmark England Spain Bohemia Norway Sweden Poland and Lithuania under personal union in my new game (as austria tho so it helps alot xD but still^^')
I got over 2k hours played in the game. One game i got 6 PUs 4 direct inherited thrones and 2 where i had to rollstomp someone. But except for that, unless its a game mechanic, i can count the amount of games ive gotten a single or 2 PUs in on my two hands.
I got a random succession war without paying attention I was the HRE already with the vassal swarm so when I heard the declared war sound I was so confused but I got a PU in Portugal which I didn’t have a royal marriage with I was so confused still don’t know why I was the one that got the pu I should have been the one to declare war
probably same dynasty
You know how to reform the HRE but don’t know the basics of PU’s? Lmao
@@LebronJames-kl8jn I mean it's not that hard
The PU might have been created via completing a mission. Some european nations create PUs by using mission tree achievements.
Good video! But I had a PU pop up that doesn't seem to fit in the the rules outlined in this guide.
I was playing as Spain and had a RM with France (among other countries). I also shared a dynasty (De Valois) with France an Provence . France had a RM with Provence. Now I don't know what happened, but all of a sudden I get a message that I have a PU with Provence. Donno why or how, but it happened. I'm not complaining, but can anyone explain?
do we acquire the land after the personal union war takes place?
Well... I got this recommended so
Here's my story
I was playing PLC (starting as poland in 1444 always) so I was learning how to play. My second last campaign ended with me taking Sweden (that formed Scandinavia thanks to me) into pu, and ended uniting with them. But mu current best campaign (I'm not playing to conquer world but I'm always on 1st place in ranking) I did it to without knowing that my royal marriage will end up with my dynasty ruling in Sweden that again formed Scandinavia thanks to me. But we didn't got into pu, but when I was controlling whole central Europe and started crusades with mumlands because I helped byzantines to defend them self, then they annexed ottomans with mamulands (or whatever they were called) and byzantium ended as my enemy because I had Bulgaria as my vassal. So as I taken Jerusalem I was about to do something with scandinavia and go into pu with them, but they ended up as a republic lol, and here I am watching pu tutorial now
Cool, so that is what happened when I just suddenly inherited Pomerania out of nowhere in my Sweden campaign
How to share same dynasty? These two nations’ throne should have the same surname, or a royal marriage is enough?
Uh, That explain why England had land inside the HRE, they inherited directly Bohemia... did not know that could happen and I've only seen it once
I mean, I have less than 300 hours but completely understand PU’s, they become fairly simple once you play in Europe enough.
Hi guy,i really wish u'll find time for ONE FAITH achievements video!
Could a good strategy also be to purposefully let your king die heirless to get an ally’s dynasty on your throne? Like in my current game as Portugal my infertile ruler kept having bad heirs that I disinherited, and the one I was about to stick with checked out just a year before the king, which led to me getting a king from the de Valois family thanks to allying France. This should make my own European conquests much easier since I can try to PU France now instead of waiting for one of them to die heirless. This does have the downside of tanking your legitimacy so that’s an issue
might also have another angle on it.
become a junior partner in a PU, become disloyal and ally all their enemies and start a big independence war.
I played the new landshut to Bavaria game. Vassalized palatinate instead of PU them. Didn’t get the elector seat. And the new Hussite faith blocked me out of a pu with Bohemia. Instead Austria got them.
Feels bad man
can someone help me?
when i go into ironman mode it says that i can't get achievements because eu4 is running a mod or its altered in other ways
i have all mods disabled tho
i did try to reinstall the game and it still says that
idk what to do
if anyone knows what might be the problem pls help me
it shows to me that i have all mods disabled but i don't actually have the mods so i can't delete them either
im confused
try verifying the files on steam
Paradox should add an option to kill a countriy`s king or heir to force them into a pu
It would make it too easy to get a personal union. Plus historically, most assassinations happened between noble families within the same country.
@@cs0345 it would be easy, but there would be huge diplomatic consequences and most likely a war
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I was going to get a PU on a thicc Bohemia as GB, tried to claim neighbouring Prussia’s throne misclicked and claimed Bohemia instead... who was allied to Rev Ottos :(
Nice
What DLC do you need for the claim Throne mechanic?
I don’t think it’s locked behind any dlc. maybe rights of man? but I doubt it
i went ham on PUing countries in my new Spain game
I PUd Poland, Lithuania, Naples and Aragon (Obviously), Ferrara, Denmark and vassalized Portugal in about 1600~
PUs arent really that hard to get lol (I fought for all the PUs and my only allies were Austria and Denmark, but i eventually ditched denmark when they had no heir with my dynasty.) I also had the habsburgs as my ruling dynasty- so maybe that helped a little bit. But i was mostly allied to all the countries I PU'd beforehand so I don't think it really maters
why does it choose noble succeed from your house instead of PU? the video didn't answer that
Got 1200 hours in the game and I've gotten more pu's through contesting them than by claiming the throne
i got half of that and ive never claimed throne, although ive had the option to do so
Its been 5 years did anything change?
Ive been playing for a few thousand hours and still have no idea how to get PU's .. so you cant get a PU as any other religion other than catholic??? so far ive only ever gotten Pu's as part of missions or by accident... i just got one over Palpatine as Saxony just by being royal married & allied to them but I have no idea how i got it... My best 2 playthrus with PUs was as Spain and Austria.. Austria I got Milan, Bohemia & Hungary very quickly after watching a guide on it but failed to get Burgundy.. I have no idea why. I wasnt sure if I was only supposed to Royal Marry them? I allied them too. Maybe I was just unlucky they seemed to keep getting heirs. As Spain I invaded Aragon & Portugal cos I had no idea i could get PUs on them. My plan was to stop all other oclonisers so I was the only colonial power so I also invaded & took out most of France having England as an ally. I later allied Muscovy too. I accidentally got PU over England & Muscovy... (no idea how it happened) which made me own all colonial nations & become the most powerful nation in the world. This was my second ever playthru. The only time I've done better was as Mughals & Austria.
I PU'd Russia as Trebizond
well, now I understand why Austria got all Burgundy in first 10 years of game
That isn't a PU or an inheritance, that is from an event called "Burgundian sucession crisis" or "Duke of burgandy dies". This is unique to their country, and one happens while they are at war and losing, while the other happens depending on their rules age and presence or lack of a son
spain, the emperor of the HRE, and nations with a royal marrige can all receive the land. France always gets a few certain provinces
Thank you, Fin Ford, for clarifying it for me . That makes totally sense now as I normally does not see this event in my games, but this time I played as Savoy and I was ideed winning against Burgundy.
@@turalei it does not always happen. Sometimes Castilla can also inheret Burgundy via event btw. it's one of the scripted things in the game and is determined by chance (i think). not a pro either at this game. steep learning curve xD
Got a PU over Russia as Ethiopia
the "Advanced" part was easier for me to understand than the easy part....
I pu'd muscovy as Denmark. Quit that game a few minutes later
In my game denmark is extremely OP. Got all of Scandinavia plus a PU with a huge Muscovy... Fuck
first portugal game ever random PU on france GG spain
worst mechanic in this game
i hate rng
paradox why not to add possibility to murder heir? it would be a bit better
Complains about RNG while suggesting an idea INVOLVING rng
@@LebronJames-kl8jn this rng makes me sick because it is too simple.
If they make this much complex i would have more fun.
Just imagine campains where you try comquere world only by diplomacy
@@Jaskiify that's called playing as austria or the ashikaga shogunate.
You can disinherit your heir.
I am here because my throne is claimed by Austria (I'm Spain) and I have no heir :(
In my mailand campaign. I wondered why france isnt my ally anymore. Until I realized that they are in a PU with fucking scotland. Believe it or not. Dont know how that happend but, ultimately france broke free instantly. That was weird.
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how do these kings have no heirs just adopt an orphan smh
Si pudieras subtitularlo en español que no se inglés =(
Si no estuviera ocupado con mis clases de ingles y con mi campaña de EU4 te ayudaria compa.
700h in, watched this video every few months.. still dont understand how the fuck PUs work
ottomans aren't Christians right? So can't get a pu as ottomans?
Pls if your accent is difficult to understand, try to speak slower. I can’t keep the track of what your say 😵
So only Christian countries can get a PU?
Yes.
I’m too high to be watching this