Racing GT3's On iRacing For The First Time
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Everything you were saying is the exact same as we have been complaining about for years.
The tire is so sensitive to temperature that one small slide that you might not even feel is enough to blow the tire up.
Cars feel vague to drive, looser car is always faster in iRacing but then keeping the tires in the window becomes even harder.
iRacing will seldom admit this and when they do, they say they can’t fix it.
Great video James 👍
That makes sense! Cheers Kev
Isn't a loose car potentially a bit faster also IRL? Also more agressive with rear tires?
@@MrThedestroy3r, usually, yes. Depends on the form of motorsport and track conditions, but a looser rear (oversteer at the limit) is usually faster. But, most tires are far more accommodating at high temperatures and don't instantly lose a large percentage of their lateral grip.
@@flyingphoenix113 thanks. It also depends of which tire are we comparing iRacing tire with. F1 pirellis are a complete joke if they push a liiiiiiitle more… they massively overheat and lose all the performance. Lando Norris made a comment this weekend in that regard.
Thats how it is in real life. I don't drive in real life as much but its obv that a faster car is harder to drive, it will be harder to keep the tires out of danger. And yes, you will have to be precise. Its called racing for a reason.
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Veteran lambo drivers: "thats the neat part, you dont"
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Interesting what you are saying about how close the real life the GT3s feel, especially because Daniel Morad Mercedes Works GT3 driver is really happy with the driving model of the Mercedes Gt3. I guess in the end it all feel and in such subjective to everybody
daniel talk about gt4 iq
@@pamo5900 talked about both especially in his ACC comparison video
Daniel drives the merc I can imagine the merc you do need to drive smooth due to engine placement and aero as to not lose the rear (irl). so that might be why he likes it and it feels similar. I think they have different opinions because they have very different driving styles, you have to drive the merc on the front and the mclaren on the rear
Daniel is also an Iracing ambassador
@@gulfcoaster210 he praised Le Mans ultimate
Love your style James, on track and commentary, pleasure to watch.
Thank you sir🤝
Just turned up the video and noticed 7.1k iRating, absolutely unbelievable keep up, your videos are great also :)
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The GTE's in iRacing feel so much more connected to the road compared to the GT3's. Sucks, that the GTE's aren't mainstream anymore though.. So much more intense to drive
Not tried the GTE's on iRacing, but I can imagine
As a Lambo-enjoyer in ACC, I welcome the use of screamy-V10-toy in your videos.
The more noise, the better
watching and driving GT3s on this game looks like absolute torture
Its far more realistic than ACC. Cars dont lose grip off power at 30 mph. Using the unreal engine was a massive mistake. The devs know it because they have already abandoned it for AC2.
great video as always mate. one question tho …are you doing rennsport and Sro esports this year?!
Those things look like a real handful but also very rewarding at the same time
On a knife edge
JAmes please do a video about your setting on the 49 on ACC, real strugle here!
Lock your framerate so you get consistent frametiming and input lag. Makes the game feel much smoother even if you are getting over 100+fps
I do lock it at 240fps, might need to turn down the graphics even more😅
@@Jaaames Yeah either turn down the graphics to get 240fps even when racing. Or get some PC upgrades, cpu probably like a Ryzen 3D vcache CPU as those offer the best performance for sim racing. Or lock your framerate to the lowest you get in races less like 100-120fps.
Cartoon tyre struggle begins
I love your videos keep it up
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James what overlays do you use they look really clean
Backmarker, the pits!
Man, the Merc is horrible with the rear constantly wanting to step out on you in iRacing. I can’t seem to drive the damn thing without constantly losing the ass.
Not to mention, if you do lose it a bit, the tires turn to rocks. Then you’re stuck fighting slippery ass tires until the temps come back down.
All the GT3's seem extremely sensitive on iRacing
You're pretty damn fast for a none GT3 race driver on iRacing
Why thank you
i might have missed it but are you gonna try the GT3s on rF2? I'm by no means as experienced as you are with them but having tried a couple of different sims i can say that i really enjoy the way they handle on rFactor2
Hello james , wanted to ask how you managed to move the delta bar to the center, Ive been trying to figure it out but I am lost.
GT3s on iRacing are the only cars I don’t like driving at all , as you say they feel not connected to the track at all and have weird behaviours
It feels so back and forward on the takes with realisme with these sim's. James says acc feels more realistic and then you have others like Daniel Morad who races alot in gt3'/4's and says acc feel terrible with compared to the irl car. I can't really jump on the discussion since I have absolute zero experience with the real life cars, but I think we who only do sim racing shouldnt get to fixated on what sim is more realistic, cause it just feels like a never ended discussion were no one really dosent know what their talking about. But it sure is intersting hearing what actual drivers think
In my opinion, I’ve only ever done karting but, either all the sims are really close to reality therefore there’s disagreements, or all sims are so far therefore it’s hard to compare to real life therefore the disagreement. I hope it’s the first option 😅
@@nitro-rc6241 yea you got a point. I just race on iRacing, mostly cause its a somewhat realistic sim, and for me I find it more user friendly with for example the UI, team racing, setup, schedule races, etc.... and acc feels like it stuck on 60hz even with 130 fps
So what I heard the v10s are the way to go
Good rating for you per race doing GT3!
i dont like that 80% Brake pressure Hardware, but i like your content still a lot and i think your way to go in simracing is fine!!!
I only run the 80% brake cap on iRacing
@@Jaaames i know i watch all your Videos 🙃
@@Jaaames IRL gt3 you brake as strong as possible on dry and dont care about ABS without steering angle right ?
The thermal model works well in lots of cars in iRacing and actually feels the best sim IMO, but when it comes to GT3s and Porsche cup the tire just does not behave correctly. All cars have sensitive tires (which can be realistic, look how F1 pirelli tire works), but in the case of GT3 class and PCup class is much much worse. As an example, I love GT4s.
Thise f1 pirellis are so easy to destroy.
@@rickrolled7930Because that's what they're made for. Michelin/goodyear is the exact opposite...
@@nicolasoliveira4903 i know that pirelli is the only tire brand that accepted f1's request of the tires desintegrating after 20 laps.
you mentioned two, biggest class of iracing - gt3 and porsche should be re-model ASAP :(
@@chlebaQQ Porsche has been totally reworked in the new update.
the current issue with gt3 is the tire model is extremely sensitive with thermal properties. Which you might not notice at a lower level but at the top end a small slide is the different between win and race over. It feels real especially the braking and ffb is good but the tire model with temperature is not working.
Yep 100%, very nerve racking driving whilst being shit scared of any little micro slide😂
@@Jaaames Do you have base shakers on your rig? If not, I would strongly recommend that, as it gives you a very precis feeling of slip. Makes it a heck of a lot easier to tread the limit.
First time watching one of your videos! I see your 7.1k but never driven GT3?! What do you normally race?
Usually IMSA in LMP2
Currently starting this series again, I always drive the AMG but now also in Suzuka i was the only AMG in split 1.
Is the BOP really that bad ?
The Merc and the BMW are pretty bad. Audi/Lambo/Porsche/Fefe work similarly well on most tracks.
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Does the lmp2 in iRacing behave the same way tire-wise?
Not really, it's not anywhere near as sensitive as the GT3 tyres
Interesting to hear your comments on the GT3’s for me, and I’ve never driven a real one but when I now and then drive an event on ACC I battle to feel the car and I find that on ACC you get no value from the brakes & Engine braking for rotation it’s like you brake at 100% and turn and you get the same rotation as trail braking very interesting to hear
does anyone know what app he's using for the overlays
RaceLabs
racelab.app/
@@Jaaames ty goat
the high gear and slow downshift is a v10 thing of audi and lambo other cars arent fully like that
Makes sense, I guess that only works in mid-engined cars also
@@Jaaames The v10s seem to have very aggresive engine braking and an oversteery nature which makes slow downshifts great. Ferrari for example you mostly want to downshift fast since otherwise it lacks rotation. It obviously works with every car, its just very extreme with the v10s and can be a good tool to influence the balance of the car mid race.
Pretty much all the rear engine GT3s are competitive in iracing, really unfortunate the front engine stuff has the disadvantage but hey technically the same can be said about the real world ones so it is what it is.
I love it that you react on every comment
The AMG's awful at Sebring. TC constantly kicking in even at 11 cutting power both out of slow corners and through the entire last corner, while the rear kicks out anyway. It's much better at RBR this week.
Yeah I did test it at Sebring, was way off.
Dude definitely has to try NASCAR stuff and dirt oval stuff now, just to completely switch things up.
how you tried any other car then the lambo?
Yep, Merc, Audi, Lambo & McLaren
im new to iracing, how tf do you turn on that telemetry overlay he has on. been looking for a solution but can only find people promoting third party apps. the one he has looks like its built into iracing.
Hes using RaceLabs
racelab.app/
There is also a free option: ioverlay
Don't know Mr Baldwin is reading this.
Gt3's in iracing dont like overlaping brake and throttle. Fast diwnshifts during straughtline brake no Problem only you Start to turn in the Lamborghini dont like downshifts.
Makes sense👊
Have you tried other cars?
Yep, I tested a few of them
how do you figure out the BOP for each week?
look at top split car choices. see what's over represented, thats almost always the strongest car that week. granted that you can extract it from the car
@@datdonedude8765 Yep, that's what I did.
Do you think that I can do real life racing if i start sim racing now(I've done karting and I'm 14)
No
yes of course.. but only if you enjoy it. james started far after you. do it as a hobby and see what happens.
@@x7b642James was karting for 4-5 years actually.
Does your family have a ton of money? If yes, then you can go racing. If no, then no.
@@divinasi0n mb
why i went to acc. this. i race irl, and iracing feels fake to me. like skating on ice.
TC and tire model on Gt3 Iracing was horrible compare to ACC
The meta in ACC is to use no TC on some cars...
@@skylerdavis1701 on few cars in the past, dont know if its the case actually
But on Iracing the slightest slip gives a castrating reaction of the TC GT3, in GT4 you can slide little and be fast
@@XBOW83 GT4s in iRacing are actually reeeeally good. Gt3s are definitely worse. TC and ABS implementation are still better than ACC, James himself has a month old video with the AMG gt3 in ACC where TC is off, which is completely unrealistic.
Don't know if TC 0 fast ON ACC was more unrealistic than TC Iracing witch completly slow the car on little oversteer...
But at the end, if james says he likes better ACC GT3, its also for that, and i have the same idea
Because i enjoy driving with little oversteer and i feel connected to the road better on ACC
@@XBOW83 There are actually some drivers that prefer ACC and other that prefer iRacing. The way to be fast in every sim except iRacing is to drive unrealistically aggressive, even if iRacing requires to drive a bit under the limit. That is my opinion and everyone has it’s own.
TC is never zero in real life in Gt3 i think.
The cup is even worse regarding "moments"
Cup is a joke in this regard. GT4s and Formula cars in iracing are way better than GT3s. Even GTEs are better,
@@MrThedestroy3r Not all formulas, you can slightly slide the f3 but after the first one, the rears will slide more and more, sadly
@@MrThedestroy3r I agree the Cup car is the worst version I've tried across all the sims. GT4s in iRacing are much better but sadly they stopped doing the open GT4 30 min races and the sprints are a gamble and very hard to maintain SR in.
Hmmm, so I've heard.
@@Jaaames Try the cup car on a hot day at sebring for example lol
iracing gt3 exposeth
Why don’t you do a vid on an older GT3 like and Ascari GT3
James you're a clever lad but there's no apostrophe in 'GT3s' mate.
I’ve been with iracing since inception and the tires and slip angle has always been terrible. I’m an rf2 fan even though I’ve only have run in rf2 6 months. ACC not a fan because that’s all they have is gt3 and the braking isn’t realistic, 💯 slam and that’s it. The iracing fanbois are going to hate you. I run irqcing for the ir18 and good luck finding an RF2 ir18 league
Rf2 tires are also terrible, just in the other extreme of the slip angle spectrum. iRacing at least does not reward unrealistically aggresive driving.
I think it's fair to say no sim out there currently nails it 100%, they all have their strengths & weaknesses.
@@Jaaames true but iracing the yaw is soooo limited, you can’t hustle the cars at all. Best car is the ir18 and the only reason I stay with iracing
@@Jaaames Rennsport has the opportunity but they’ve just copied rf2 anyway. Still, they can see all the hood and bad that’s been out here for the last 10+ years and don’t make the same mistake(s)
Don't buy vr now. We are 6 month from rtx 5090 and next headset gen with applevr like screens. Your quest3 or whatever will be obsolete. Think that current gen is 3.5 years old (reverb g2). Yes it is already game changing, but if you were good without for so many years you can wait 6 month to have 4x resolution and 20x luminosity peak , better colors etc...
And even if you dont want to put 2.5k in a graphic card you could still get a used 4090 and be fine with native resolution of future headsets, curently with a 3090 all top games except acc run 90fps with 3800x3800 per eye (iracing, rf2, ams2) and have very good vr implementation, iracing being plug and play, ams2 you just have to tweak an ini file to have sharp graphics, rf2 the harder you need openxr, openxr toolkit and to bypass steamvr but once done its done ...
JAMES when we see acc
This week🙂
those slipping oversteering losing the rear moments are more of a lambo issue than a gt3 issue.
The Lambo was definitely the most extreme
7.3k irating and never raced a gt3?
All i know that Daniel Morad drives GT3 merc and he loves it so 🤷♂ dont know who to believe anymore
morad is biased since He ist an iracing Ambassador
He doesn't love it... He almost never drives GT3 in iRacing because he doesn't love them. He says the Merc GT4 is the closest of all sims without saying it feels exactly the same. Tire model is not good enough. He does say exactly the same as James, but in other words...
he loves his GT4 and only talks about this car basically. His GT3 opinion is different
better or worse than AMS2?
Algo algo algo, oi oi oi 🗣️
Oi
You don't want to go over slip on any wheel. You overheat the fronts and suddenly...not turn in. Too touchy
Yup, think I started to understand that towards the end.
A lot of your troubles are probably because you haven't developed the feel for the GT3's yet. It's quite possible to drive the cars with the rear hanging loose, and it's certainly possible to save slides. However, it is also true that you can't slide the cars too much without hurting the tires (some real life tires work the same way too, but I can't speak for any GT3 tires).
you mean develop bad habits to compete? lol
Yeah, the bad habit of trail braking to rotate the car...
Funny seeing people who have have never driven a car giving advice to someone who has 😂
@@tqracinghe's raced in the 24hrs of spa. In real life. What the hell do you even mean ?
@@sr.hughes8712 Having raced in real life doesn't necessarily make it easier to connect with a particular car in a particular sim.
You'll never stop that horrible rear movement in iracing ...iracing is the art of driving on a knife edge . To me they never got the tyres right.
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iRacing simps having a meltdown somewhere KEKW
Just my opinion😆
why do you have a fake trophie in the background
thank you for debunking all false believe that is game is close to real racing.
For me you just can't drive on the limit and the BOP is so bad each a new car is released.
Why are these iRacing [players in the comments] so bitter about the fact that not everything on it is realistic? Are you salty because you spent too much money on it?
Isn't he allowed to give his opinion or what?
What?🤣
@@Jaaames I'm not talking about you man. You gave your fair opinion about the game and how it feels, but all those iRacing fanboys bitterly disagrees because you said ACC is better in an aspect of the game
@@SnakezF1 of course! That's why I watch his videos. Perhaps I worded my comment poorly, my mistake.
Iracing is better at modeling proper racecars. It doesnt do driver aids or front wheel drive very well. The fact that drivers on iracing are much more aware of their surroundings makes iracing far more realistic than ACC. There is nothing realistic about getting smoked by a guy ten places behind you at t1, and that is literally all ACC open lobies ever.
yo james don’t eat ur nails i used to eat mine and they made me sick, sat in the hospital for 2 weeks cuz my nails were dirty. so try stopping that habit, cheers mate
I have eaten mine for 40 years, so far so good
@@liviu543 😂
I don't eat them😅
@@Jaaames great to hear that
@@liviu543 damn 😵💫 i once was eating mine when i was young and accidentally took off the pink part it hurt so much loads of blood came out
Don't let Daniel Morad know you think iRacing feels funning and not 1 million % like real life or he will tell you that you know nothing and just a hater
You would say that too if you got payed by them to say that… 😂
@@SPiTFiRE_JiMMY That's what I was kind of getting at 🤣🤣🤣
Haha, I'm not actually 100% sure what his view is, as I say all sims have their own strengths & weaknesses.
@@Jaaameshe basically just says the braking is more realistic on iracing than ACC.. i mean , the guy races the amg in IMSA and won the 24 hour Daytona twice I believe so its hard to discredit his opinion(not saying you do) .. these ACC fan girls just dont like the fact that another gt3 driver likes iracing better than ACC.. lmao…. But, me personally i like LMU better than both sims, but i suck balls soooooo yeah lol 🤷🏻♂️
@@zeekot4064 las time i checked DM is not the bible of motorsport.
Every driver has his style of driving too. Some will cope more with one sim than the other.
You just exposed yourself as biaised to iRacing.
As you know this game has also issues and the tyres are a real problem.
I go were the racing is more fun and I race also in iRacing but I don't like just to follow the train just not to trash my iRating... That is not racing to me.
Iracing is overrated anyway 😂😂. Fanboys are also really sensitive
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