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Komentáře • 224

  • @PDMcG1091
    @PDMcG1091 Před 2 lety +95

    That house is bigger than it looks at first glance. As a volunteer on a small rural department I will never complain about having too many firefighters on the fire ground.

    • @michaelmeyer8493
      @michaelmeyer8493 Před 2 lety +2

      That was my first though lol.

    • @leoschmelcher4089
      @leoschmelcher4089 Před rokem +1

      In Germany thats normal because we need to secure any squad using SCBA in closed spaces by a second squad with extra equipment (not the full of an rapid intervention crew but a bag containing an SCBA with a special mask). In case of a structure fire that means we need 9 firefighters minimum. In case that there are persons trapped in the burning structure 16.

    • @Levi-in8eq
      @Levi-in8eq Před rokem

      So that's why basically a third of all the firefighter in New York responded to the twin towers on 9/11 because the buildings were just tall and big damn

    • @larryvarner3444
      @larryvarner3444 Před rokem +2

      Amen, more firefighters the better.

    • @larryvarner3444
      @larryvarner3444 Před rokem +1

      Amen Brother, people that don't volunteer on fire departments , don't have any Idea.

  • @RAKRail
    @RAKRail Před 2 lety +123

    The Firefighter taking photos / video could have been a Fire Investigator. Early on photos and video are a big help when investigating the fire after the fire is out.

    • @oscarosullivan4513
      @oscarosullivan4513 Před 2 lety +3

      Good point

    • @bobtiki9767
      @bobtiki9767 Před 2 lety +16

      Yellow helmet he was definitely a fire investigator

    • @JakeW26
      @JakeW26 Před 2 lety +14

      That or he could be a department PIO (Public Information Officer)

    • @nomenclature9373
      @nomenclature9373 Před 2 lety +6

      Battalion Chiefs often carry thermal imaging cameras to check on hotter areas. If there is a person designated as a safety officer, he or she is on the IR cam more extensively.

    • @davep6977
      @davep6977 Před 2 lety +6

      I was a fire photog for awhile (I was a red hat). My job was get there quuick and document. Smoke patterns, color and mainly hot spots and Always sneak in crowd photo's. If you have fire in the back and fire in the front, not tied together odds are they didn't light themselves.
      There are many things that are the "photo list" but are better NTK (need to know)

  • @colinhayes6254
    @colinhayes6254 Před 2 lety +17

    Just want to pop in and say thank you for all the videos! I just received a conditional offer at the young age of 19 at the first and only department I applied for!! Your videos have 100% helped me through the process.

    • @mike_pertz
      @mike_pertz  Před 2 lety +6

      Congratulations Colin!! Good luck!

  • @saddleridgearmory4675
    @saddleridgearmory4675 Před 2 lety +17

    Thanks for your help. Passed multiple exams with your study guide videos. I am praying and hoping to get hired soon.

  • @denelson83
    @denelson83 Před 2 lety +19

    For safety, and to make sure individual firefighters do not outwork or overstress their own bodies. Any firefighter will tell you that working to extinguish a large fire can be _exhausting._ For starters, firefighters need to put water on the fire, which means they may have to maneuver charged hoses from time to time, and water is _heavy._ Not only that, firefighting is inherently dangerous. If you do not do exactly what you are trained to do on a fireground, you could hurt or even kill yourself or some of your fellow firefighters. And if you get into a life-threatening quagmire as a firefighter, there have to be other firefighters standing by to go in and rescue you the instant their chief knows you are in trouble.

  • @joshuadoll9000
    @joshuadoll9000 Před 2 lety +39

    One thing I'd like to add in regards to the whole fighting fire in snow; we can't tell what the conditions are like on the fireground just from a video. The snow looks pretty deep in some places. We fought a house fire a couple years ago in the winter and everything was a sheet of ice but it looked like any typical winter day. We couldn't manage anything more than a slow stroll without falling down. People are quick to judge without taking into count factors they may not be able to see.

    • @thatman8987
      @thatman8987 Před 2 lety

      Arsonist

    • @Normal1855
      @Normal1855 Před 2 lety +6

      Or you don't know what is under the snow. I slipped on a car hood, that was under the snow. Imagine using a charged line, when slipping.

    • @larryvarner3444
      @larryvarner3444 Před rokem

      Arm chair quarterbacks. They have never fought fire.

  • @fyrman9092
    @fyrman9092 Před 2 lety +33

    I spent 20+ years in a municipal fire department. The initial dispatch for structure fires put 28 firefighters on the scene in less than 3 minutes.
    Three handlines, 2 search teams, roof team and DC for starters. If anything, that combination can easily overwhelm a fire.

    • @cdm2065
      @cdm2065 Před 2 lety

      Impossible to have all companies on scene in 3 minutes unless all your fire houses are a mile apart or you only have one firehouse with 28 people.

    • @fyrman9092
      @fyrman9092 Před 2 lety

      @@cdm2065 it is possible with how some of areas are, especially in the downtown area. I spent many years trying not to get hit when making a hydrant and the rest of the companies are arriving. Have to watch every step.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 Před 2 lety

      @@cdm2065 you’d be surprised at how close places can be in older cities, one neighborhood in my hometown has five engines, four ladders, and two deputy chiefs with aides within a mile of it. that’s a minimum of 29 firefighters 24/7…more if they’re running the rescue truck in the city that day.

  • @davidglaum2538
    @davidglaum2538 Před 2 lety +3

    Thank you for putting the information out so people can understand how complicated fire fighting is.

  • @mikmik9034
    @mikmik9034 Před rokem +1

    I remember when a Ladder company was 8 to 12 guys hanging on to the truck, 3 guys on a pumper/tanker. Now there seems to be only 2 to 4 per truck (capacity of inside comfy cabin).

  • @mikefargo4339
    @mikefargo4339 Před 2 lety +9

    A first alarm residential structure fire in my former dept. (retired 12 yrs ago) will bring 3 Engs, 1 Truck, 1 Rescue Ambulance, 1 BC and 1 Safety officer... a total of 22 personal. With each additional alarm the assignment basically doubles again and brings more overhead staffing to the incident.

    • @timk.2381
      @timk.2381 Před 2 lety +1

      Here in Germany at my volunteer Department when we have a house fire we have about 50-60 Firefighter from 3 stations at the fireground. And this only the first "wave". If there are coming more departments there could be about 80-90 Firefighter. My biggest fire i had there where about 280 Fireifghter from 15 Departments / stations including Ambulances etc.

    • @goodmeteorologicalmorning4754
      @goodmeteorologicalmorning4754 Před 2 lety

      I’ll guess I’ll join in on “at my department..”
      At our department, since we’re in a urban area encompassing four counties - we get a lot of false alarms, so the initial response is called a “Task Force” consisting of 2 Engines, 2 Trucks and a chief. If the fire is confirmed, and isn’t extinguished or such - it’s upgraded to a 1st Alarm - +2 Engines, Heavy Rescue, Ambulance, additional chief, rehab unit and PIO. Next alarm adds 4 Engines, 1 Truck, 2 Chiefs and any other requested units. Pretty cool what your dept. does!

    • @stevenbowers4164
      @stevenbowers4164 Před 2 lety

      Rural England, residential fire two engines, three if persons reported, if whole time manned 4per engine on-call up to six, (I say upto six because there's an issue during the day with lack of people in the smaller villages) what the US calls a ladder is not on the std response, we also very rarely might need a water carrier and in any large fire requires more water than the hydrants can supply HVPs would be called in, we had four at a recycling centers fire, they are always a long job

  • @user-dg5nj1ez8c
    @user-dg5nj1ez8c Před 2 lety +1

    Hello! I just wanted to thank you so much for all the helpful tips in your videos, I was lucky enough to be hired a couple of days ago with my first company and I couldn’t be more happy.

  • @andrewkwekel3195
    @andrewkwekel3195 Před 2 lety

    I'm learning a ton from these after action videos, keep it up!

  • @donmedrano85
    @donmedrano85 Před 2 lety

    Love the editing and excellent size up

  • @fredschepers5149
    @fredschepers5149 Před 2 lety +20

    Overseas 🙂
    Every country has its own fire fighting culture.
    I've been watching many, many videos from all over the world.
    Fire fighting is largely depending on infrastructure, building regulations and available budgets.
    My pov as an overseas former fire fighter is the scenery.
    A lot of countries are still using power or other lines above the ground. Where I come from I think that 95+% of any line is underground, including the water mains and hydrants.
    Roads and weather conditions are mostly the same as in compatible countries. In the western Sahara there seems to be less snow than elsewhere 😁
    Buildings especially residential. I guess in the US most residential buildings (not the high rises obviously) are made of wood. In my country practically all buildings are brick and concrete build including the floors. Older buildings might have wooden floors and the majority of houses will have a wooden roof frame.
    Builds are essential for any repressive action and tactic.
    The culture decides the tactics. Are fire brigades volunteers or do they have fire fighters on a payroll.
    Payroll fire fighters cost a council more money than volunteers.
    Education is usually the same. Quite often you will find that in countries where there are more volunteers there is more money available for equipment.
    Education per country is different as well. Where I come from all fire fighters have the same tasks. It's not military based and from all fighters it's expected to have the same knowledge regardless if it's about fighting fires, rescuing or equipment handling. After a few years (2) you can specialise yourself in whatever speciality is needed. Diver, driver, dispatch, hazmat, or even rescuer at a rescue platoon for larg scale operations.
    You still remain the normal all hands in one firefighter as at the start no matter if you have to get a cat out of a tree, being a nozzle man inside a house or in a basket, or using cutters or spreaders at accidents.
    It's more all-round I would say. The requirements for fire fighters usually have a technical background to start with. Electricians, wood workers, metal workers etc. High level of education to start with.
    The tactics, tho fires are always similar (fuel, oxygen, temperature, mixture, and/or catalysts), really changes by country.
    Yes, ventilation can be key if the heat is to intense and the amount of smoke is to dense, but on many US video's I've seen the breaking of windows like there are specialist window breakers at work like in a competition rather than effective and tactical ventilation. For me it's weird... For many US fighters it's normal. Just like trying to fight a fire from inside out.
    I can't imagine with the windows and doors open, you put one line in at work full well knowing that this line will most definitely spray extra oxygen with the water and pushing a fire further in a building in any of the directions of the cubic thought situation.
    But as I said... Every country has its own, usually effective way of fighting misery.
    Where I come from tactics are also based on usefulness.
    Can you rescue a building or did a fire caused too much damage. Would you be better of protecting other buildings or even lower or higher floors. Is the event worth risking people's life. Sure, if life's were at stake you would handle things different.
    Anyway, from all video's I've seen, this one was most informative... 🙂
    It gave a little overall glance about the differences per country...
    But one thing all countries all over the world have in common....
    Fire fighters rock!
    Period... 👊

  • @dirkbeekhuis7286
    @dirkbeekhuis7286 Před 2 lety +4

    In the Netherlands most engines have 1 driver, 1 lieutenant, 4 firefighters (sometimes also a firefighter that's still in training) and a ladder truck has 1 driver and 1 or 2 firefighters on it. With a house fire most times 2 engines, 1 ladder truck and a officer/chief respond to the incident

  • @patricktho6546
    @patricktho6546 Před 2 lety +1

    8:48 I did it a few times.
    Normally when you just do cleaning up, or you can't do anything more (tank is empy and all of your respirator carriers are in action and you aren't one and you have enough personal), so you can do a bit of public engagement work, legal things (proof that we did right in some cases), and photos for training later

  • @CallsItLikeISeizeIts
    @CallsItLikeISeizeIts Před 2 lety +2

    Don’t think anyone ever complains about too many ata fire

  • @raycolon477
    @raycolon477 Před 2 lety

    Great video 👍

  • @owen225
    @owen225 Před 2 lety +2

    Most not the fires I have been on had between 25-50ff. It was not because we needed them, it’s because fire ops are fun and interesting. Everyone wants a piece of the action. This is how you keep volunteers going. It’s often less efficient and harder to manage but you have a robust enthusiastic volunteer organization. In my town the fire department is the local team sport. It is the life of the community.

  • @bereamikebassmaster
    @bereamikebassmaster Před 2 lety +1

    fantastic video

  • @andrewdavidson7656
    @andrewdavidson7656 Před 2 lety +1

    People shouldn't make judgements about something they know nothing about. There are also many factors in play that they don't think about.

  • @bostonrailfan2427
    @bostonrailfan2427 Před 2 lety

    re:water on the fire. it was venting yet stopped. the smoke changed from thick to white. unless i’m mistaken that’s clearly interior operations affecting it. the front might be where they’re setting ip command and rehab while the interior attack from two lines are underway and in time they’ll get a third or fourth line as-needed.

  • @patricktho6546
    @patricktho6546 Před 2 lety +2

    to the thumbnail:
    17 isn't many^^
    In Germany the standard unit for a house fire is a so called Löschzug (basically 2 engines with 6 and 9 people each and 1 ladder with 3, together with one commanding vehicle), witch in the voluntary FD has 22 FF and with the paid FD we have still 16.
    But with such a Fire you normally alarm 2 or more for water supply and differrent angles and rather have to much, than to little

  • @mc051961
    @mc051961 Před 2 lety +2

    Gotta believe they also noticed the changing conditions and were getting set up for master stream operations

  • @donlyons3196
    @donlyons3196 Před 2 lety

    good point about the snow, i would love too see if anyone could run in snow!!

  • @charlesrosenberg8233
    @charlesrosenberg8233 Před rokem

    Getting that Truck set up was a good idea, especially given the flashover in the 3rd floor front. I don't know what the wind conditions were, but given how close the houses are spaced, the Truck can quickly adjust in case a spot fire started on an adjacent roof.

  • @engine2truck6
    @engine2truck6 Před 2 lety +2

    Cleveland Fire is LEGIT.

  • @TomSmith-th4dy
    @TomSmith-th4dy Před 2 lety

    From a west coast perspective, i would order an early transitional attack with a deck gun (150 gpm , 1/2” tip) into the third floor window or a 2 1/2” hand line and 1” tip (200 gpm), for a limited amount of time in order to lower the heat level and buy some time for interior crews to gain access to the third floor.

  • @Jhawk-yy4ge
    @Jhawk-yy4ge Před 2 lety +3

    Hey man I’ve been watching you for a little over a year now and learned a lot and just wanted to say thank you. I just got the call that I’ve been accepted to start the training academy for the city of Pittsburgh next month!!!

  • @josephbennett3482
    @josephbennett3482 Před 2 lety +1

    Short answer : all firefighters have a different role on the fireground , some are nozzlemen , some are Rapid Intervention Team , staging personnel for backup of guys inside the structure , some are engineers or truckies so their only duty is to operate the rigs and retrieve ladders hoses or other rescue equipment that's needed. There's also probationary guy's that can't do anything unless they are under the watch of the training officer and in some departments there are younger guys who are junior firefighters who don't have full fledged experience and can only watch the veteran firefighters do the work.
    Most guys you see standing around on a scene are just waiting on orders from the IC or they are part of RIT and they're only there in case a firefighter goes down and they need to quickly get the firefighter to safety.

  • @406fire9
    @406fire9 Před 2 lety +1

    Also we have to put into count some places in the United States use Rescue Engines witch makes it much easier to get water and everything done way faster then have to rely on a rescue or ladder company

  • @RayFireFighter
    @RayFireFighter Před 2 lety

    Always good to have a lot of FF on the job. Our Co and like the rest of our town is Volunteer. So on a Confirm working Job. We have our Ladder and the Engine Respond. (2) Co coming in is Brining a Engine (3) Co coming in is the R.I.T. And depending on how big if its a Commercial Building you want more ladders or if you have a water issue ( No Hydrants) you bring in Tenders. So on a 2 Alarm assignment you Have 4 Engines , 1 Ladder may be 2 if needed. 2-4 Tenders to keep the water coming. And your RIT. And if your RIT goes to work you call in another RIT. Also got to remember 2 in 2 out so on a nice hot summer day you want that extra man power on scene. keep the guys fresh. Winter Same thing. Rather have a lot of Man Power then no Man Power at all.

  • @leoschmelcher4089
    @leoschmelcher4089 Před rokem

    In Germany the rescue pumper is THE standard vehicle for every fire department in of medium or big size. In some cities with 100000 to 400000 they are only to be found in the paid stations. But they are used for fire incidents as well as rtcs or other incidents. They combine engine company and rescue company and have a cab for 9 firefighters but are usualley staffed with 5 to seven firefighters.

  • @tomarmstrong4761
    @tomarmstrong4761 Před rokem

    Watching the smoke as suggested, I'm thinking about a comment you (I think) made in another of your videos that "smoke is unburned fuel."
    There's a lot happening in a house fire like this, so, yeah, I'm happy for the crews to be numerous. Even as a "lay person," it seems to me that rotating through crews is important when attacking, for fatigue mitigation and air supply, and ultimately safety of the firefighters.

  • @j2o3sh
    @j2o3sh Před 2 lety +3

    Yes as an electrician those lower cables (lines) on the poles are telecommunications and do not carry any harmful voltage … the ones above are actually powerlines and those are the ones to avoid contact with and yes most fire fighters know this.

    • @mikev7895
      @mikev7895 Před 2 lety +1

      Firematic wise, we always call the powerlines on the tip top; primary lines (pole to pole), secondary lines (pole to the house) and then the lines on the bottom be utility.

    • @clarkmorrison7243
      @clarkmorrison7243 Před rokem

      This is the second time I have seen the narrator on this channel refer to "power lines" that are clearly low-voltage communications cabling (telephone, DSL, and cable TV). Actual power lines are uninsulated, higher up on the poles, and always come in threes (in the U.S., that uniformly has three-phase AC power).

  • @kvnrnhrd8184
    @kvnrnhrd8184 Před 2 lety

    Hey @FirefighterNow I just found your channel last week and I´m very thankful and impressed by the amount of detail and useful explanation they offer. Because of your vids I can understand the "US way" of firefighting better than ever before. (I am a FF from Berlin, Germany, who loves to learn about doing the job.)
    My question for you guys in the comments is, with this many people on the fireground:
    How do you make sure that every firefighter in the building is safe. Do you look especially after your crewmembers or does everyone look after the guy next to him?
    In Germany we typically have 2 firefighter "squads" inside the building, which look after each other, you just have to check on your buddy.
    This is not to say you are wrong in the states, I just want to learn why :)

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 Před 2 lety +1

      there’s a designated safety chief whose job it is to do that. they might be joined by a rehab chief and/or RIT chief. if not chiefs then a senior officer like a captain gets the job

    • @kvnrnhrd8184
      @kvnrnhrd8184 Před 2 lety

      @@bostonrailfan2427 thanks for the explanation

  • @signal12hvac
    @signal12hvac Před 2 lety +3

    its the hidden hazards under the snow such as ice. kids toys, garden tools, holes, large stones etc.

    • @RLTtizME
      @RLTtizME Před 2 lety +2

      You forgot dog doo doo. 😂

  • @leightongalleries6057
    @leightongalleries6057 Před 2 lety

    I understand what you are saying, explaining, but..... wow. This one sure got away, with a full complement of staff.

  • @Travelinmatt1976
    @Travelinmatt1976 Před 2 lety

    my hometown fire department has a fire photographer. they are trained in basic life saving skills, but they do not get involved unless absolutely necessary. they wear basic safety gear but do not enter structures. many time they are first on scene so they will give the 360 size up.

  • @kenbrown2808
    @kenbrown2808 Před 2 lety

    I agree, that poor truckie really had to work for his ladder position. but yes, if you have it, then get it where you can put it into play.

  • @clay8222
    @clay8222 Před 2 lety

    @firefighterNOW
    Would you be able to do a video comparing or even giving your experience on a smoke diver program? My home state (Tennessee) has a smoke diver program in which I have completed. I know many other candidates who have failed the course. I have never attended any other states smoke diver program. Would you be able to make a video with your thoughts on them?

  • @rohnkd4hct260
    @rohnkd4hct260 Před 2 lety

    Looks like a good job to me. Cities do things different. This house was a "Containment" fire (keep it to one house). Ladder was a good move but, think I would gone with ladder eariler in the fire. Wish more depts would take pictures, be amazed what you see after the fire.

  • @ScottMStolz
    @ScottMStolz Před 3 měsíci

    If you think this is a lot of fire fighters at a scene, you should check out Filipino fire fighting. Especially in places where there are no fire hydrants, they have to bring in water with tankers. You can have dozens of fire brigades or more at one fire.

  • @matthewperalta8200
    @matthewperalta8200 Před 2 lety +2

    Hey can you make a video on a FDNY scene? i know that FDNY has a big budget and a lot of fire fighters a lot of there calls there just standing around like bumblebees ?

  • @IRonIcScopez
    @IRonIcScopez Před rokem

    I'm gonna be in the next class for Cleveland Fire Department, so I was surprised to see that this video is from here lol

  • @TheWaynelds
    @TheWaynelds Před rokem

    I’m down here in Akron Ohio and I live in a balloon framed house with the old Knob and Tube wiring. There seems to be a lot of fires in my area with 4 on my street within 2 years.

  • @daveschmidt1601
    @daveschmidt1601 Před 2 lety

    I Live in Buffalo NY area they go by FAST TEAM not RIT or RIC for more Volunteer companies in my area only 4 or 5 paid depts in a 20 mile radius

  • @2Fast4Mellow
    @2Fast4Mellow Před 2 lety

    If you see the potential for a flashover, doesn't it make sense to spray water inside that area to 'cooldown' the area in order to avoid a flashover? Or is that not possible?

  • @GioSerg94
    @GioSerg94 Před 2 lety +1

    If you’re an AHJ that follows the ISO Fire Suppression rating, attempting to get maximum credit, there’s a minimum number of firefighters that MUST respond to each structure fire (usually a minimum of 4 per structure fire for basic credit). Meeting or exceeding this qualification lowers your insurance rating, which lowers your insurance cost.

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 Před 2 lety

      also, it's better to tell firefighters to sit on the bumper than it is to be screaming for more help.

  • @timjager3020
    @timjager3020 Před 2 lety

    Hi
    Could you please make a Video about german Firefighter.
    I also life in german and i am Interested how you think about their strategy and
    Firetrucks.

  • @engine2truck6
    @engine2truck6 Před 2 lety +3

    Great commentary as usual.
    BUT OFI and IC actually DO take photos and video, for investigative and for training. And sometimes use drones. It does happen a lot these days.

    • @mike_pertz
      @mike_pertz  Před 2 lety +1

      That’s good to know...I’ve never noticed on a fire before but it makes sense to take photos of the early stages and development of the fire.

    • @lon6boardlord
      @lon6boardlord Před 2 lety

      They did this for my training last year

    • @kevinturner1943
      @kevinturner1943 Před 2 lety

      As an investigator, those photos are wonderful evidence! On my former department, we had a retired captain who videoed all the fires with a handicam. They helped with investigations immensely. He received an award from the State Fire Marshal's Office for identifying an arsonist who had committed back to back arson fires in barns (a good old vanity arsonist, he called in the first fire after he set it and wonderful Uncle Bud found him at the second scene, too). RIP Captain "Bud" Kinnett Aurora, IN Fire Department.

    • @jamesbeecher8242
      @jamesbeecher8242 Před 2 lety

      @@mike_pertz as for your sizeup . . . I bet the door on the left is the one that goes to the 2nd floor!
      Look at the video in the beginning on the D side all the windows are level on both floors BUT
      at 11:00 look at the windows on the B side. Just past the A-B corner there is a window that looks like it would be below 2nd floor level as if its a light window into the stares. And then below it there apears to be a small window on the first floor that is not as high as the other first floor windows as if it is in a room under the stairs to the 2nd floor.

  • @anthonykinney28
    @anthonykinney28 Před 2 lety

    In New Zealand complete different ways of fighting fires Usually two firetrucks will turn up the fire 8 fire fighters For a most house fire. as we don’t have big 3 stores house mostly 1 stores house you should check out some videos of New Zealand house fire videos.

  • @yoyoyolo-kf3qi
    @yoyoyolo-kf3qi Před 2 lety

    With that firefighter taking pics, what do you think that was? My thoughts is that is a jrff or its a PIO, he did not have bunker pants on or anything.

  • @ThatSB
    @ThatSB Před rokem +1

    People from warm climates dont have a clue what it is like to deal with deep snow and high wind, let alone be wearing fire fighting gear and having to be throwing freezing water around

  • @warrencole402
    @warrencole402 Před 2 lety

    Hey Mike.
    Were did you get the rhino from in the back ground.?

  • @TheEDFLegacy
    @TheEDFLegacy Před rokem

    I'm pretty sure the ladder was deployed the way it was so they can shoot directly from the ladder into the top of the house's front window. My fire department has three separate novels directly attached to the bucket, and from this video I could tell that this thing has something similar at the end of the ladder itself. I don't think it's a matter of climbing on the roof, but rather of fire suppression.

  • @skipb4028
    @skipb4028 Před 2 lety

    Maybe a dumb question but can you apply to a fire department in a different state (not a transfer)?

  • @aportman58
    @aportman58 Před 2 lety

    Were the firefighters possibly doing a VES operations when they were breaking out windows? Not sure if maybe video was cut and edited and the VES ops wasn't shown? I really don't know if they were performing VES or if ventilating?

  • @nate6692
    @nate6692 Před rokem

    I spent 7 years on a rural department. Where do you GET That many firefighters?

  • @mc051961
    @mc051961 Před 2 lety

    Also noted a number of firefighters exit th A side probably from the 2nd and third floor
    Lastly if conditions changed that quickly and they were still hitting it from C side
    The conditions would only get worse oN alpha

  • @aportman58
    @aportman58 Před 2 lety

    At 7:31 its the Delta side of the house not the Bravo side.

  • @alexkitner5356
    @alexkitner5356 Před 2 lety

    Its hard to be 100% from a couple minutes of video taken from a limited perspective looks like the fire started in the rear or C/D corner of the second floor. They've made a push, gotten up there and hit that area but have heavy extension to the third floor/attic. They're taking the front windows to ventilate the second floor to help control heat and smoke while they pull ceilings and work to extinguish fire above. With the amount of fire on the third floor already they're getting more benefit in helping keep the second floor conditions better than they're losing in allowing more airflow. The fire is already drawing a ton of air as there is nothing but exhaust out the attic windows and the only reason it is still oxygen limited is the sheer volume of fire up there. You presumably have lines to the second floor to keep pushing the fire up and out, ventilation is helping secure the territory you've gained and to base the next push from.
    I'm an engine guy but swear the truck brushed the primary going up and it seemed pretty sketchy, would have thought they'd try to put the rear mount on diagonal to the street with the turntable as far back as possible near where they first stopped so they could try and swing under the lines and allow them to operate in the clear apwith good angles on the A and D sides but I wasn't in that seat to see what was and wasn't going to work or what obstacles were in the way.

  • @PuzzleKitten.0000
    @PuzzleKitten.0000 Před 11 měsíci

    Mike a thought about the medical aspect. Several years back I read an article I think it was in "JEMS" Magazine that was warning Paramedics that respond as Medical Backup on structure fires that there's a higher incidents of; MI's and other heart related medical incidents, with firefighters who have gone into hot structure fires in cold icy weather.
    It's apparently due to going from overheating in the turnout gear and heavy equipment and then getting too cold going outside and the rapid temperature changes, during winter.
    Maybe they've learned this and rotate their internal attack teams more frequently or use more of them during winter in hopes of mitigating and reducing heart related emergencies with the firefighters. 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Just a thought bro...
    Stay Awesome and keep em coming!!!
    🙃🦉❤️‍🩹🕊️😶‍🌫️😁

  • @arnisdaddy7905
    @arnisdaddy7905 Před 2 lety

    People ask questions like: "why aren't they moving faster?" simply BECAUSE they have never fought a structure fire and the ONLY experience they have with firefighting is by watching Hollywood movies where the ACTORS (not firefighters) are running into the building and miraculously saving the day because that is how the script was written. Running into a burning structure is the best way to make a mistake like not sounding a floor, not paying attention to were you are going and getting lost in smoke filled, ZERO visibility conditions, and/or tripping over things/debris inside the building. Firefighting must be a very methodical process that is carried out with caution. Remember: we risk much to save much, but we risk little to save little. Buildings and contents are replaceable, humans are not!

  • @kyleparrott4020
    @kyleparrott4020 Před 2 lety

    I may be wrong but I think the guy "taking photos" is running the thermal imaging camera.

  • @Coldwarrior7781
    @Coldwarrior7781 Před 2 lety +1

    Too many?
    Try rural. Many times you have 2- 3- 4 for the first 15- 20 minutes.
    No such thing as too many.

  • @SirSloop1919
    @SirSloop1919 Před 7 měsíci

    The guy taking pictures is the CFD social media employee 🤪

  • @geoffreyschmidt
    @geoffreyschmidt Před 2 lety

    Hi. Can you please clarify your b-side and c-side terminology? I'm not familiar with it from here in Australia. Thx for the great videos.

    • @ryanbowden9904
      @ryanbowden9904 Před 2 lety +1

      A is front / main working side of structure, b c d are names for the other sides clockwise.

  • @brianwebb3768
    @brianwebb3768 Před 2 lety

    Just fyi, the firefighter that is taking pictures around 9 min mark, is the CFD public information officer.

  • @donaldmorrison9940
    @donaldmorrison9940 Před 2 lety

    In relation to the speed question, there’s no doubt urgency can be lacking. However, we’re taught never to run on the fire ground because more hurry less haste.
    All I’ll say is ventilation is a very different thing in the USA compared to Britain
    Finally, people bang on about getting water on a fire but if you’re committing crews into a building you can’t be spraying water on it Willy nilly. Steam is, surprisingly, far worse for us than smoke so controlled application of water by the interior crews is safer.

  • @wxvyd9653
    @wxvyd9653 Před 2 lety

    I still gotta write me nfpa exams and still get my D Z drivers license for me to apply for a full time department.

  • @SethMaxx1994
    @SethMaxx1994 Před 2 lety

    I think it was a all hands call or 5th alarm fire

  • @floodkidsgaming7430
    @floodkidsgaming7430 Před 2 lety +1

    Rescue is RIT in my area (central NY state)

  • @amazingworldtosee
    @amazingworldtosee Před rokem +1

    Cleveland always has 2 extra units on calls your more for fires I now a lot of these guys in person

  • @almerindaromeira8352
    @almerindaromeira8352 Před 2 lety

    I had to laugh when you said those are tight streets😂

  • @alexblaine1895
    @alexblaine1895 Před 2 lety

    If you get enough information you should break down the Oakland hills country club fire

  • @barryackerman3331
    @barryackerman3331 Před 2 lety

    The more the better

  • @ctt4811
    @ctt4811 Před 2 lety +1

    I wouldnt have put the stick up, tough location with the obstructions, overhead and the tree

  • @sterlinggarcia9859
    @sterlinggarcia9859 Před 2 lety +1

    Also the firefighter taking the photo / video could of been PIO.

  • @SkibbyDenmark
    @SkibbyDenmark Před 2 lety

    We actually almost always take photos of the house when it's on fire.. Documentation, documentation, documentation.. We are often the first people on scene and our documentation is used by the police, insurance and a lot of other entities.

  • @countrycutting2051
    @countrycutting2051 Před 2 lety

    I have always been taught slow is smooth and smooth is fast. I'd rather do that than tire myself out before I get inside. BUT there is always a time to move a little faster, example: anyone trapped inside.

  • @bostonrailfan2427
    @bostonrailfan2427 Před 2 lety

    two alarms minimum there, which in my neck of the woods is six engines, four ladders, and at least two chiefs…that’s not counting extra manpower. minimums would be 30 firefights, two chiefs, two aids, plus whatever EMS support they have: 38 firefighters minimum, likely more if they run 4-man companies
    it’s a lot, but they don’t want the fire to spread and lose the whole block!

  • @josephr4792
    @josephr4792 Před 2 lety

    Hi I'm a highschool student who's interested in becoming a firefighter/paramedic. I see a lot of people in the comments of your videos saying that they're going to fire academy after they get hired, so my question is where you go take firefighter 1&2 classes before of after you get hired?

    • @jamesbeecher8242
      @jamesbeecher8242 Před 2 lety

      It depends on the state you live in and the department you get hired at.
      For example, in Florida, most cities wont let you take their test until you have already gotten your basic training.
      But other cities like in NY State and PA (I was a fireman in PA for 21 years) the cities will send you to the academy for training after you are highered.

    • @theler2012
      @theler2012 Před 2 lety

      You can find a volunteer fire department. In the department I volunteer at, there are a bunch of high schoolers 16-18 who joined and were able to go to fire academy classes by signing up at their stations omce they're available.

    • @andrewj9831
      @andrewj9831 Před 2 lety

      This is a tricky question to answer, as their isn't a right or wrong answer. It really depends on the dept. I would decide where/what you are interested, look at their hiring process to see what is expected. Some Depts. have separate EMS/Fire, some are combined and some are you are a FF for X time, then you can transfer to the EMS side. In my area, for the biggest FD, most attends a tech school for fire prevention 2 years, and get the basics done, then they apply to that dept, they get hired and attend their fire academy (in theory you don't needs any previous training). FD outside of this city, it's the same kinda, but they instead of a fire academy, they get hired and that dept has a training program (in house or at the tech if needed -no training is needed at some). Like I said look into this and see what you find....there's 1001 right answers and 1001 wrong answers.....

  • @martinmcmullen
    @martinmcmullen Před 2 lety

    Can't have enough firefighters at a scene of major fire for relief and salvage and over haul. And help pick up gear for the next call.

  • @ofcv1238
    @ofcv1238 Před 11 měsíci

    1:55 ask 100 firefights possible voltage, amps, watts off pole to house…what does “line aware mean” if

  • @Backnine907
    @Backnine907 Před 2 lety +1

    When you speed up the videos, you should play the Benny Hill theme song in the background.

  • @daniels.5019
    @daniels.5019 Před 2 lety +2

    There was no reason to break the windows on the Alpha side. The fire is located on the C side. The fire will now take the whole floor as it moved towards the broken windows. Also every firefighter should carry a tool, making breaking those windows for egress possible if the need arises. Ladder the porch and call it a day.

    • @CapnBabs205
      @CapnBabs205 Před 2 lety

      I would disagree that there's no reason, as we don't know Cleveland Fire's policies (unless you do, in which case I'll humbly shut up).
      I'd like to discuss the notion that the fire will now take the whole floor though. With the smoke coming from the top floor or attic (whatever you prefer to call it) curling around and heading to the C side, it leads me to believe that the winds are coming from the A side, or A-B corner at a minimum. With the fire already venting out the C side, but that volume of smoke pushing from the top floor, I would think that we'd be dealing with some pretty heavy smoke conditions on the inside. Would taking those windows not allow the wind into the home to alter the flowpath of the fire to increase visibility inside for the crews?
      I'm not looking to argue by any means, more for some healthy discussion to better ourselves as firefighters.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 Před 2 lety

      in my area, every window is broken for ventilation and egress. every window has a ladder put up to it unless it’s unable to be reached due to fire conditions or collapse concerns…with all due respect: a broken window is less costly than a firefighter’s life.

  • @patricktho6546
    @patricktho6546 Před 2 lety

    11:14 I think you couldn't use a vehicle based ladder at all.
    You get far to close to the power lines (we have to have at least 1 m safety space), no matter where you are, so understandable, that it took ages.
    Probably it was shut down and grounded, before the ladder would be of any use in its primary job (not counting the other equipment on it)

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 Před 2 lety

      what you don’t see are the hundreds of meters of ladders carried by those ladder trucks not just the big one…they’re visible on the side as well as behind the compartment doors underneath the turntable.
      and FYI: power is cut if there’s issues with power lines. the big ladders are not as useless as you European or Asian people think

    • @patricktho6546
      @patricktho6546 Před 2 lety

      @@bostonrailfan2427 what?
      My point was, that you would have to use those portable ladders (like we have on every engine), not the fixed one.
      And getting a powerline shut off takes tens of minutes, witch is normally way to long.

  • @pogump
    @pogump Před 2 lety

    As a guy who not work as firefighter,it seems like there is a lot of “backseat drivers”

  • @kennithsebert7779
    @kennithsebert7779 Před 2 lety

    Also don't forget the 2 in 2 out rule

  • @itmeng
    @itmeng Před 2 lety

    Just asking, I’ve been taught side 1, 2, 3 and 4 going clockwise around the structure with one being street side. Is A B C and D different?

    • @viceroyvic
      @viceroyvic Před 2 lety +1

      Usually, A is street/command side, then clockwise from there (eg left, back, right).

    • @itmeng
      @itmeng Před 2 lety

      @@viceroyvic got it.

  • @larryziel9472
    @larryziel9472 Před 2 lety

    Better to many than not Enough

  • @TheBUCKEYES04
    @TheBUCKEYES04 Před 2 lety

    I’m just curious how do they keep their attack lines from freezing up I’m from South Carolina so we don’t deal with extreme cold

    • @WolfmanAF1
      @WolfmanAF1 Před 2 lety +3

      As a firefighter in minnesota we crack the nozzles to keep water flowing so it doesnt freeze in the lines.

    • @TheBUCKEYES04
      @TheBUCKEYES04 Před 2 lety

      @@WolfmanAF1 thanks for the answer

  • @grmpflz
    @grmpflz Před 2 lety +1

    There are mostly wooden houses in the US, so why don't they cool down houses next to the fire? We live in a house made of bricks, and when the house next to us (5 meters) burnt down, the second water hose was set up to cool down our house to prevent the roof from taking over the flames. Extremly successful.

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 Před 2 lety

      we call that exposure protection, and yes, it's an important part of fighting fire.

  • @news603redux
    @news603redux Před 2 lety

    Another great one, thank you. A question - what percentage of a water stream {hand line, tower, whatever}, when it hits the fire, just turns to steam and doesn't really do anything? Just always wonder ....

    • @engine2truck6
      @engine2truck6 Před 2 lety +1

      “Turning into steam” is what is extinguishing the fire. Water absorbs heat, lowering the temperature to a point below which combustion will occur....and when water does this, it turns to steam.

    • @mike_pertz
      @mike_pertz  Před 2 lety +3

      That’s a good question, but honestly I don’t really know a specific number. I would think it would depend largely on whether you’re using a smooth bore or combination nozzle, size of the line (meaning gpm), and the size/heat of the fire

    • @news603redux
      @news603redux Před 2 lety

      @@engine2truck6 To put it another way, how much of the stream of water dissipates before it hits the actual flame?

    • @kenbrown2808
      @kenbrown2808 Před 2 lety +1

      @@news603redux depends entirely on the ratio of stream size to size of the fire, and the spray pattern. but your thinking is actually the reverse of actuality - the water that doesn't do anything effective is the water that goes out the other side of the fire, or runs out the bottom. it;s counterintuitive, but as 603 says, turning the water to steam robs heat from the fire, and and that's your objective.

    • @news603redux
      @news603redux Před 2 lety

      @@kenbrown2808 Thank you, that helps.

  • @privacyvalued4134
    @privacyvalued4134 Před 2 lety

    What does the Rapid Intervention Crew do when they are on fire? They.......Stop. Drop. And RIC Roll.

  • @rbspider
    @rbspider Před rokem

    Could he have broken the front windows preemptive to shooting water if fire broke out? I feel bad for the people who lost their home in winter , that is much worse in my opinion than losing it in good weather.

  • @Normal1855
    @Normal1855 Před 2 lety

    They have more than they need, for manpower. Better to have too many people, than not enough. Same with equipment. Better to send equipment back, than call in more.

  • @tomcander3669
    @tomcander3669 Před 2 lety +2

    Sir, correct me if I'm wrong but some department have a crew with line to backup each interior crew?

    • @peteb9279
      @peteb9279 Před 2 lety

      RIT team rapid intervention team

    • @tomcander3669
      @tomcander3669 Před 2 lety

      @@peteb9279 if you follow Command Vision he has a RIT and backups staged at entry

    • @engine2truck6
      @engine2truck6 Před 2 lety +1

      A “backup line” and a “secondary line”, and a RIT are three Completely different things.

    • @tomcander3669
      @tomcander3669 Před 2 lety

      @@engine2truck6 that's what I was trying to find out until the other guy wanted to try to be the smartest kid in the class...thanks

    • @mike_pertz
      @mike_pertz  Před 2 lety

      @Engine2Truck6 is correct. Those are all diffeeent things and depending on your department and their ability to get firefighters on scene may impact how many of those things you can have at a single fire. It’s not uncommon for many places to rotate “interior crews” and in the event a RIT team is needed just use two firefighters from a crew in rehab (rehab means rest while the other crews work)

  • @T_210
    @T_210 Před 2 lety

    Thank goodness for all the red arrows, we'd never figure it out...