I have loved Stan Kenton's orchestras & music since I was a young kid in Culver City, CA in the 1940's when I would hear his bands on the radio. I had two cousins who lived in Long Beach, CA that would go to dance to his music at venues in SoCal where he played & I envied them ! Then in 1971 I was blessed to have been at BYU working on my doctorate when Stan put on one of his famous & annual jazz workshops / symposiums at BYU & recorded it. We were at that concert & I have that record ! Then... in 1973 ... Stan brought his orchestra to Ventura, CA to put on a concert there - which my wife & I attended. It was AWESOME ! During the intermission I went to the head & ended up at the urinal NEXT TO STAN !! I had noticed that EVERY ONE of his band members ( including him ) was wearing a little white button on their suit coat lapel so I asked Stan what that little white button said. We walked to the sinks to wash our hands & he took off his button & handed it to me ! It said ''FIGHT BULLSHIT!" ... I still have that button & will treasure it always !! note: I am 81 years young ! 😉👌
3/26/24 I am now 85... leaned in on the stage railing at WestView Park's, Danceland (Pittsburgh, PA) and dug the big bands that cycled through in them glorious early 50's. The Kenton band was never missed by us musicianly kids. Thanks for reminding me of that great era. Regards, Jack
My mom named me after Stan Kenton. My middle name. What an honor. I got to see him live in Chattanooga, TN once in the late 1970s. He & his orchestra were playing at the "River's Edge", which as far as I know, no longer exists. Anyway, walking into this venue (which had hardwood floors at the time), the sound of the band was magnificent and the reverberation of the amazingly talented band was surreal. A slightly rectangle-shaped performance hall, the band's sound projected so perfectly that it sounded like one of his best records on the finest playback equipment. Perfect. During a break, I approached Mr. Kenton and when it was my turn, I told him my mom had named me after him and I showed him my Tennessee driver's license. Timothy Kenton... He smiled and passed it around to the brass section. One of the trumpeters said, "Hey look! It's another one of Mr. Kenton's kids!". Ha. I finally got my license back, the brass section had a good laugh. As is often typical, the saxophones didn't much care for the brass's joke. You know how it is...saxophones never laugh at trumpet jokes; visa versa. Lol Was a great once in a lifetime experience. Thank you Mr. Kenton for dreaming big and creating something in music that never was and really, never would have been without your vision and drive and amazing creativity.
Agreed Now 87 Had the privilege of meeting Stan Kenton at the Fairfield Halls Croydon UK had quite a collection but youngsters who had never listened to a big band like that I gave a few recordings away my favors still intermission riff and national anthem of the world
I and my brother started listening to Stan in 1947. Through the years we had an almost double collection of his records and saw him the times he came to Minnesota. We were both musicians, brother played trumpet and I drums and admired those sections. My brother is gone but I have most of my collection. It is hard to find anyone that even remember him. I found you could buy all of his music on cd's and then of course you can watch and listen on youtube even more stuff. There is no sound like it. Even the drum corps play his stuff. Bob Jenkins
Alto Saxophone [Lead] - Michael Bard Baritone Saxophone - Dan Landis, Jack Stuckey Bass - Kirk Smith Bass Trombone - Alan Morrissey Drums - Jay Cummings Percussion [Latin] - Ramon Lopez Piano, Leader - Stan Kenton Tenor Saxophone - Peter Asch, Roy Reynolds (Plus Flute on El Manicero) Trombone - A. G. Robeson, Denny Brunk*, Tom Lacey Trombone [Lead] - Roger Homefield Trumpet - Bob Doll, Bruce Haag, Clay Jenkins, Tom Baker Trumpet [Lead] - Steve Campos Recorded on 18th March 1978 at The Coconut Grove, Los Angeles The audio tapes are also released separately as The Lost Concert I - Live At The Coconut Grove In L.A. and The Lost Concert II - Live At The Coconut Grove in L.A.
@@rtblues LOL-the only reason I know is that in 1978 Scott Laskey was offered the lead chair on the Kenton band and declined to keep working for Mr. Schilke, he told me his buddy Tom Baker got the job
Michael Bard was in Portland for years. Bob Doll and Roger Homefield worked w/ Buddy Rich too. and Clay Jenkins has become one of the great jazz trumpeters of our time.
If Kenton was in a 150 mile radius we would see him Have most of his albums autographed Knew his road manager.Jenny Ladd.Used to subscribe to his magazine.Have a picture of him giving an interview in California He was rushed and had on one tie shoe and one slip on shoe.
"Takes one to make one." I'm not the biggest SK fan but it's obvious he was a very talented and well rounded musician who could do everything (play, arrange, envision, compose, rehearse, conduct, promote, emcee, etc.), including *teach well*, because that's what good teachers do, propel their proteges to even higher levels of greatness.
This is when I really miss my dad. I wish I could show him this. He took me, as a ten year old, to see the Kenton Band at Hammersmith and I was blown away. He wanted to show me there were far better big bands than the Syd Lawrence/Glen Miller styles. This got me into liking Basie, Herman, Heath and Quincy Jones and realising there was so much more out there than the spoon fed stuff. The Kenton at Tropicana and West Side Story albums are amongst my most played fifty one years after first hearing him.
The year was 1969 the place Toronto Okeith Centre The Stan Kenton Band was in concert I was just 17 and I reluctantly went along with my Dad and his buddy. That night was a so amazing the artistry and the power. The sound that band could produce was true expresion it was hipnotic and to me to another diamension it was life changeing.
I was lucky enough to catch Kenton at the Frog and Nightgown in Durham NC in the late seventies. Small room with outstanding acoustics -the best musical experience of my life. Mostly young musicians -with a couple of his older guys.
This has made my day.A master piece.My first Stan Kenton 78rpm.record I bought in 1947 I was 16 yrs. old Painted Rhythm/ Peanut Vendor,now in my 90th.year.An amazing Orchestra never the like to be heard again....Have you ever heard Chelsea Bridge played so good.The ‘Kenton’Trombone sound just marvellous.
Didn't the U.K. have its' own Stan Kenton clone in the form of the Vic Lewis Concert Orchestra right down to vocalist Jacqeline Jennings who if if you closed your eyes sounded exactly like Chris Connors. ...Ted Heath ( the band leader not the Prime Minister) tried but never quite succeeded.
Body and Soul: 0:35 A Little Minor Booze: 7:09 Chelsea Bridge: 16:11 Turtle Talk: 25:09 All The Things You Are: 30:48 Malaguena: 35:42 Bogota: 40:44 Lush Life: 45:15 The Peanut Vendor: 50:48 Roy's Blues: 58:37 Intermission Riff: 1:06:22 Artistry in Rhythm: 1:19:43
I've been on a "little minor booze binge" . Glad you took the time to list all the pieces and titles. Found several great performances of this great tune
Bought my 1st Kenton album in 1950 or 51 and have added many more since then. Used to ride the Rocket from Peoria to Chicago to catch him at the Blue Note. Still
1978 was one of two summers I got to spend at the Kenton Clinic in Towson, MD. Being able to sit in with these guys as an 18 year old was and still is one of my favorite life thrills. John Harner and Peter Erskin, trumpet and drums. Wow, glad I found this video.
As I was saying before I was interrupted. A great concert & as usual a great band of musicians. The sound is awesome. Thanks for posting, much appricated. A fan since I saw him in Dublin in 1953
Foi um inspiradores dos músicos brasileiros que desenvolveram o movimento musical denominado Bossa Nova. Muito admirado no Brasil. Sua Orquestra era espetacular. Os arranjadores, integrantes e o próprio Stan Kenton muito inspirados.
I've been a big fan of every Kenton incarnation since hearing his recordings in the late 50's while in high school. Mostly Artistry in Rhythm to start then added Maynard to my hall of idols, being a trumpet player myself. I'm still thrilled by the whole package. Many years ago he came to Kalamazoo at Don Neal's club. Got a signed 7.5 on the Richter Scale.
This was performed on March 18, 1978. In just a little over a year on August 25 1978 we lost Stan forever. But to those of who loved his music and loved the man, he will live forever. I had the great good fortune of meeting him and visiting with him a number of times. he was always gracious and friendly there's not a day goes by I don't miss him. I had better stop now, the tears are really starting to fall.
What a lovely tribute. Am nearly 83 and have been a lifetime fan. Wish I still my old Capitol 78 rpm Peanut Vendor. One of my 8 Desert Island Discs. Kind regards.
I too appreciated being with/around Stan Kenton as a college student, on vacation at Tan Tara Resort in Missouri, as a band director in Kansas, and as a District Manager for Yamaha Pianos. On each occasion, being able to speak directly with him, he was very gracious and caring, but he was interested in how my career had advanced. He told me in 1961 after I told him I was majoring in piano, he said to stick to that. There would always be possibilities unlike other instruments. I took to that recommendation. I had a successful career in music based on the piano for over 49 years.
Soy fan de Stan Kenton desde los doce años de edad. El fue mi primer ídolo del jazz y su influencia ha sido muy importante para mi. Soy abogado y aun cuando toco el piano, no tuve formación profesional como músico, pero Mr. Kenton es parte de mi infancia y primera juventud. Gracias.
My dad took me to my first Stan Kenton concert right around this era, 'The Leisure Suit' tour, lol. Incredible sound live. I can remember waiting in the drinking fountain line with band members, but I never had that urinal encounter, ah yes, the ole key of P......... Love this video.
I got my first 78 ever in 1948 and it was "The Peanut Vendor/Painted Rhythm". Loved Kenton's sound ever since (I'm 80 now). Stan Kenton and Glenn Miller, in my humble opinion, are the only band leaders who "created" new styles in Jazz band/orchestra. Sergio December 2016. Thanks.
I was on the Miller road band during those years when Buddy DeFranco led...was Richie Barz the contractor/Alto sax as you remember ? Before that I did a short road tour with Ray Conniff -2nd chair t-bone-where Fitz had the lead chair...Bob Fitzpatrick had a huge sound; overpowered the whole orchestra.. He was not healthy during that time...also on that Conniff tour, was Ernie Tack who went on to play bass t-bone on Doc's band after Carson moved his show from NY to Burbank..I am a lot older than you--graduated college 1961 and went to US Navy school of music when Sam Donahue led the jazz group there...impressive musical chops....Kenton featured some amazing trombonists..Carl Fontana, Kai Winding, Frank Rosolino and many others.Thanks for posting this.
I got my first stack of 78s in 1982 (as a teenager) and one of them was "The Peanut Vendor." I also scored a copy of "Orange Colored Sky" which is too often overlooked. During that period I played in college bands and listened to Kenton, Ferguson, Chick Corea + my favorite - Bill Watrous. Of the Kenton material I remember the album "Kenton in Hifi," which I scored a never-played-copy of at George Moore's house- a guy who had a garage+room additions filled with 78 rpm records somewhere in Southern California. Transferred that to reel to reel right away and listened to it a few hundred times! The redo of that album in Stereophonic was pretty good too as I recall!
Like some of the other contributors, my first jazz record was a secondhand copy of Peanut Vendor found in a backstreet shop in Liverpool around 1956/7.. Always like Kenton's inventive music and he was always able to attract top class musicians to create a unique sound. This "lost concert" is superb.
The concert was March 18, 1978, Stan's last band. It's a bootleg recording, meaning unauthorized. None of the musicians were paid. Here are notes from the website where you can purchase it. Just released: an incredible DVD video of the legendary Lost Stan Kenton Concert from March 1978, digitally re-mastered and enhanced for DVD, with interactive menus and the same great digital sound as the original audio CD. Review This engagement in March 1978 does not appear in any of the band's published itineraries. Even Audree Coke Kenton could not find any record of this concert in Kentonia files. When Robert Widener presented the band in 1977, Stan could not be there because of his tragic accident in Reading, PA. Bob kept in touch with Stan and his agent, Willard Alexander. The idea of reopening the legendary Cocoanut Grove appealed to them. Widener made arrangements to reopen this historic room which had been mothballed and unused for years. Bob advised his mailing list that Kenton would be back, and it would be at the Cocoanut Grove. Willard Alexander called and said, March in California. Bob picked Saturday, March 18. Stan's fans rushed to book seats and the event sold out in days. Because of short notice, the engagement never appeared in published itineraries. The room was full of celebrities: Benny Goodman, Nelson Riddle, Henry and Ginny Mancini, Joe Bushkin, Bobby Troup, Julie London, Arthur Godfrey, Chubby Jackson, to name a few. Stan was in a jovial mood, and the band was sensational - some say the best of his career. In 1997, Bob discovered the tapes in storage, and the Lost Concert video was found! --The Lost Stan Kenton website
Hi. On the matter of the bootleg, during my time as a musician in and around the UK, when the time of the VHS or Beta camcorder arrived, sometimes the sound engineers mixer in the booth would video a performance for their own ends. In this performance , the camera is rock steady showing that it was not the usual crap shaky bootleg which would be taken by a member of the audience. Glad it was done as this performance is just great.
SET LIST + PERSONNEL 1. Body & Soul: 0:35 2. A Little Minor Booze: 7:09 3. Chelsea Bridge: 16:11 4. Turtle Talk: 25:09 5. All The Things You Are: 30:48 6. Malaguena: 35:42 7. Bogota: 40:44 8. Lush Life: 45:15 9. The Peanut Vendor: 50:48 10. Roy's Blues: 58:37 11. Intermission Riff: 1:06:22 12. Artistry in Rhythm: 1:19:43 TPTS: Clay Jenkins, Bob Coassin/SL Tom Baker/SL, Bruce Haag, Bob Doll BONES: A.G. Robeson, Denny Brunk, Roger Homefield/L, Tom Lacey, Alan Morrissey/B SAXES: Michael Bard/A, Peter Asch/T, Roy Reynolds/T, Dan Landis/B, Jack Stuckey/B B: Kirk Smith D: Jay Cummings, Congas: Ramon Lopez ...Rec. March 18, 1978 at The Coconut Grove, Los Angeles czcams.com/video/sbyJkqZotcA/video.html (84mins) - by JACK STUCKEY ...Copy: czcams.com/video/02vIioH6y-o/video.html (84mins) -------- @jackstuck, it’d be great if you Edit the Description and copy/paste the above in.
The West Morris H.S.jazz band which featured Dan Landis(front row,far rjght,on bari sax),visited the middle school I attended in N.J.I went to West Morris the following year,played in the jazz band and we became freinds.I am thankful to Dan for introducing me to jazz.He is a retired music teacher of the Long Valley school system in N.J.
I cut my teeth on Peanut Vendor, and Sing Sing Sing ! i was 17, now in my 80th year, i believe I've seen an heard the greatest 60 years of music anyone could wish for and, oh yes ! Buddy Rich.
Same age; got to see/hear Kenton's group in the fifties/sixties at the Fort Ord Soldiers Club (since torn down due to Pacific Ocean erosion). Delightful, impressive, memorable, and more.
Way back in the early fifties while doing my National Service in the army a few of us managed to get tickets to his concert at the Sport Palast Berlin . We were quite close to the stage and after all these years I can still remember June Christie singing along with the full Orchestra. .. Memories of lounging off duty listening to A.F.N. and RIAS on our Lorenz radio ..Stan and his wonderful Concerts in Mniature. We didn't make much money but oh what a great time we had Pity the Army used to do its best to spoil it all threatening to post us to Korea if we didn't smarten up behave ourselves.
jupiter912 yeah ,same here only ,in the New Zealand Artillery, 3rd Field Regiment. Saw Louis, Eddie Condons outfit, Oscar Peterson,Thelionus, Ted Heath. Johnnie Dankworth and Cleo Laine, Kenny Ball, Chris Barber, Shirley Bassey, Sassy, Tommy Dorsey, The Shadows,and more ; Kenton never toured N.Z. regrettably.. great days
They were incredible live! I attended Kenton clinics from '76 to ' 78 at Drury University. There were concerts every night and my favorite story is I took my Dad one night. After the 2nd song, Stan introed the piece, let the band take over, then exited the stage. A minute later, Stan was by our seats and said, "Mind if I set there?" next to my Dad. I think Dad about shit his pants. When it was close to where Stan needed to get back in, he said thank you, went back up to the stage, and finished the song. Still love his music and bands.
@@randypeterson8968 man I envy you, I’m a young student who likes to listen to jazz, and his band and pieces are some of my favorites I’m glad you had such a close experience with the man himself
I first heard him in the 40s & I'ved always worshiped him ever since. I saw him 6 times & he got better & better. what music. Thank pity we can still hear him. Pops just hog wash! Metal not too bad but theres only one music Mr S. N. Kenton.
I played baritone with the last band. Even though Stan wasn't in the best shape you he still had a presence that was inspiring, all the history he made in his career. If you haven't already read it, you'd really enjoy "Stan Kenton - Artistry in Rhythm". It's amazing how hard he worked to keep bands together. Even at the end he couldn't imagine life without a band.
When I was 15 I hung out at the Lighthouse Cafe in Hermosa Beach. I met Shorty Rogers, Milt Berhart, Jimmy Guiffre, Shelly Manne, and of course Howard Rumsey back then. All ex Kentonites.
"Body and soul" by Edward Heyman, Robert Sour, Frank Eyton, John Green; "A little minor booze" by Willie Maiden; "Chelsea Bridge", "Lush life" by Billy Strayhorn; "Turtle talk" by Dee Barton; "All the things you are" by Oscar Hammerstein II, Jerome Kern; "Malagueña" by Ernesto Lecuona; "Bogota"; "The peanut vendor" by Marion Sunshine, L. Wolfe Gilbert, Moises Simons; "Roy's blues"; "Intermission riff" by Steve Graham, Ray Wetzel; "Artistry in rhythm" by Stan Kenton. Personnel on Camera Stan Kenton and his Orchestra (including Clay Jenkins, Steve Campos, Bob Doll, Bob Coassin?, trumpet; Dennis Brunk, Roger Homefield, Allan Morrissey, A. G. Robeson, Tom Lacy, trombone; Michael Bard, Roy Reynolds, David Landis, Jack Stuckey,+ ?1, reeds; Stan Kenton, piano, leader; Kirk Smith, acoustic double bass; + ?drs; Ramon H. Lopez, perc)
@@jackstuck Hi, My favourite would have to be Capitol Punishment from a slightly earlier time..... Ah those 78s from yester years ...Used to shatter into pieces if you accidentally sat on them when someone carelessly left them on a chair! Maybe that's why so few are around today!
The only sound that can compete with Kenton for perfection might possibly be a perfectly tuned Formula 1 car just prior to the annual Grand Prix of Monaco,... and even then, Kenton wins!
This band cooks with all the back pressure of a nuclear bomb reaching criticality and a subtlety only obtained by running a fog horn through a bucket mute! Good GOD...!!!
@@BillSmith-rx9rm Terry Layne was the lead alto in 1976 and part of 1975, whose playing aroused controversy in band. Several players quit the band because Stan refused to fire him. To quote one of the former bass players, John Worster: "The saxes are the weakest section, because we don't have a lead alto. Terry Layne is an inexperienced rock-oriented player who hasn't got his instrument down. His solos are inconsistent, he's not careful about changes, and his pitch varies - he hasn't really learned to control the instrument, and that's not the proper chair for someone to learn to play on. This band has too long a history of good lead alto players, and the section cannot sound well without a good lead."
Thanks, Jack for posting. Someone had a question about what arrangements were here but I'll do my best. 1st set--Body and Soul, A Little Minor Booze, Chelsea Bridge, Turtle Talk, All The Things You Are, Malaguena 2nd set--Bogota, Lush Life, Peanut Vendor, Blues for Roy (not sure of that one), Intermission Riff, Artistry In Rhythm. Hope I got close.
Alto Saxophone [Lead] - Michael Bard Baritone Saxophone - Dan Landis, Jack Stuckey Bass - Kirk Smith Bass Trombone - Alan Morrissey Drums - Jay Cummings Percussion [Latin] - Ramon Lopez Piano, Leader - Stan Kenton Tenor Saxophone - Peter Asch, Roy Reynolds Trombone - A. G. Robeson, Denny Brunk*, Tom Lacey Trombone [Lead] - Roger Homefield Trumpet - Bob Doll, Bruce Haag, Clay Jenkins, Tom Baker Trumpet [Lead] - Steve Campos
I started to listening to Stan Kenton because as a 17 year old trombone player I was so impressed by Kent Larson and Bob Bruckmiar and ever since love the way he always arranges the bone section
My late dad, born in the early 1930's, was also a great fan. Don't know if dad ever saw Kenton live though, and sadly there's almost no one left for me to ask!
Ther setup for the saxes are a little different than what was usual for the band in that the two tenors are on the left, then the alto and then the two baris. In previous versions of the band. it was from left to right: Baritone, Tenor, Alto, Tenor Baritone - Interesting, to say the least.
From the hair and beards I would put it in the 70s. At the beginning the announcer says it is at the Coconut Grove in the Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles. The hotel closed in 1989. Stan passed in 79.
Damn! That young bassist sure knew his chords and progressions . I KNOW that because I used to play the bass - but, I could never play as good as THAT guy .
Body and Soul A Little Minor Booze Chelsea Bridge Turtle Talk All the Things You Are Malaguena Bogota Lush Life Peanut Vendor Roy's Blues Intermission Riff Artistry in Rhythm
A quick story. Sam Noto, who I believe played 2nd for Kenton, said that Maynard played 3rd trumpet. "He played just the high stuff." But he also mentioned that he got on the bus one day, and Maynard was ripping a huge callous off his lip. Sam asked "Doesn't that hurt"? and Maynard said, "well, yeah." As if it was just the price to pay.
Alto Saxophone [Lead] - Michael Bard Baritone Saxophone - Dan Landis, Jack Stuckey Bass - Kirk Smith Bass Trombone - Alan Morrissey Drums - Jay Cummings Percussion [Latin] - Ramon Lopez Piano, Leader - Stan Kenton Tenor Saxophone - Peter Asch, Roy Reynolds Trombone - A. G. Robeson, Denny Brunk*, Tom Lacey Trombone [Lead] - Roger Homefield Trumpet - Bob Doll, Bruce Haag, Clay Jenkins, Tom Baker Trumpet [Lead] - Steve Campos
Thanks for posting, Jack. I remember that last band. After 11 years of Stan Kenton Clinics in Redlands and Sacramento we might have met briefly. Stan looked bad. You could see the scars from the surgery. He was smoking these long brown "More" cigarettes. I had not seen Stan smoke in years. I asked Denny Brunk (2nd trombone) about it and he said "Stan forgot that he quit smoking." But he could still make that piano sound full and lush, like he always did.
I recognise Roger Homefield in the lead bone chair (he kinda looks like me). Bob Doll and Bob Coassin in the tpt section. Bruce Haag on 2nd tpt? He was on Elvis' last tour as well. Is that Michael Bard on lead alto? Didn't know he was still on the band at that time. Roy Reynolds. of course, on tenor 1. And Denny Brunk on 2nd bone. Denny and I were struggling students in LA in the late 70's. He was from Kansas City I think. Real ice guy and fine player and singer. Haven't heard from him in decades.
trumpets left to right: Clay Jenkins, Steve Campos, Bruce Haag, Bob Coassin, and Bob Doll. I'm sad to report that Steve Campos passed away a few years ago. Bass Trombonist Howard Hedges is also gone, many years ago. Bruce Haag has his own studio in Cincinnati, a trumpet / brass teacher...brucehaag.com
stan kenton and his band really are amazing, even young people enjoy his music. Sure it's not as prominent in today's society as it used to be but he has some really good music. I should know because we played But Beautiful in my high school jazz band and got to play lead trumpet and i'm only a freshman! By the way, what did you play for the band? @Jack Stuckey
Hi Jack. Sorry to dispute your call on the trumpets, but that isn't Bob Coassin on lead trumpet. Check out the clips of Bob with Buddy on YT. I reckon it's Tom Baker
You're right. Bob Coassin replaced Steve Campos, then switched to lead when Tom Baker left the band. Bob and I joined the band around the same time. I just remembered him playing lead, forgot that he didn't begin on that chair. Thanks for the correction. Steve was on the band long enough to make a big impression on me, of course. The video was filmed my 3rd day on the band at the reopening of the Coconut Grove ballroom in California!
@@jackstuck I have a question, and yes it's coming from a classical trumpet player that loves Herman/Kenton/Rich/Maynard/etc big band jazz. I guess it's trumpet related but could apply to all sections in Kentons band. If a lead trumpet player quit or got another gig, was there an open audition for groups like this or does it go by referral? For Example, if there was opening for 3rd trumpet Boston symphony, there'd be an audition for it so is that how it worked w/Kenton's band also?
@@junkyman2 There were never auditions. It was usually a recommendation from someone in the section looking for a new player. Although I was recommended by Bob Doll who was a trumpet player I went to college with. Also, Kenton had the advantage of hosting the Kenton clinics around the country so some players were recruited after hearing them play for a week.
Let's be honest, Stan Kenton did bring about some sort of original sound to Jazz/music. I came across many English " jazz fans " in UK in 1950s / 1960s who looked down on him. I who be interested what you think.
@@jazzbob57 Thanks for your reply/ comment, what is your comment concerning Fusion Jazz,, which was acceptable by many Jazz fans around the globe. One could say fusion didn't swing. Please no "smart Alex " reply, I've noticed people on these sites who hide behind the anonymous ( never give their real name) always somehow give unpleasant reply. Noticed your original reply started off " Yeah" whats that all about ?Please think mature before you reply. Thank you, Peace to all.
@@alankirkby465 I heard the Kenton Band live five times and read the biography on him. I, myself, never noticed that his music didn't swing, though I thought that it did. This was a point of his to not do so. In his later years, he did more "concert" works and latin tunes. These did not incorporate swing in them, though they are considered to be jazz. Jazz doesn't have to swing. His early bands would have been considered swing bands, but with age he was after something different. I love his music. Don't get me wrong. I heard him live more than any other jazz band until I heard Maynard Ferguson more due to teaching jazz and taking students to hear a live jazz big band. Okay. Back to the topic at hand. There are many types of jazz music, just like there are many styles of rock music. Jazz Fusion can be many things a jazz group playing rock or a rock-instrumentated group playing jazz. It isn't the instruments. It isn't swing. It is more heavy chordings. Rarely does Jazz Fusion swing. I refer to Jazz Fusion has modern jazz more than anything, because there aren't many big band-type groups around anymore. The smaller sized groups tend to play music influenced by other genres. New Orleans Brass Bands, Soft Jazz, String Swing groups, and many more. Jazz is alive. Let's keep it that way. The british-style brass band I play and arrange for does many classic jazz tunes, because people love them. Variety of music is entertaining.
Alan, I "discovered" Kenton in the late 80's (when I was in my mid twenties) digging through records in a thrift shop looking for rock, mainstream jazz and surf music when I came across a 33 of Kenton in Hi Fi. I was hooked immediately and quickly started digging up everything I could find including bootlegs and old radio shows. I understood what the Balboa kids were so excited about in 41 and 42 but I was surprised to find out the few friends I knew who liked "jazz" didn't like Kenton. "It does not swing" was what I heard most vibrantly from my best jazz friend (who also mentioned something about racism). I was a bit stunned to hear this verdict and I absolutely disagree but what do I know? I soon realized I didn't read about Kenton in jazz books, I didn't see him included in tv jazz specials nor did I ever hear him on PBS or public radio shows. Kenton has been somewhat whitewashed from the history of jazz. Kenton somehow opened a new door for me as It sounded MODERN in a way that I still cant describe. I hear many musicians from Mancini, Quincy Jones, Neil Hefti, and literally every TV jazz soundtrack of the 50's early sixties borrowing elements of his unique modern sound. Of course the stuff with vocalist is fantastic as well. Some of his recordings in the fifties didn't quite connect but he rebounded in the early 60's and during the Creative World period. This concert is great but it made me realize that Kentons career was relatively "short", 41 to 78. 37 years is not long when compared to a lot of modern pop rock acts like Rolling Stones, or Kiss.
-Body and Soul, A Little Minor Booze, Chelsea Bridge, Turtle Talk, All The Things You Are, Malaguena 2nd set--Bogota, Lush Life, Peanut Vendor, Roy's Blues, Intermission Riff, Artistry In Rhythm
Anybody remember Kenton's 'Gloomy Sunday' which was banned from being played on the radio because to many people were committing suicide after listening to it. You can find it on line if you look hard enough.
Always loved Kenton's music, until my attention was drawn by devastating story about his undecent behaviour towards his daughter Leslie. A reason to start hating 'Stan the Man'. She wrote a book about it.
@@247hdjazz After his long run with SK, Dick showed up in a few places. He was teaching in Michigan at Wayne State University and I recall he was at Mt. Hood College in Oregon after Larry McVey passed away. He was in LA in 83-84 and our paths crossed a couple of times with rehearsal bands. He had gained a lot of weight by then....was well over 500 lbs. He passed in 1997.
I see Roy Reynolds (one of the tenors). And that's got to be Ramon Lopez on congas. The bari sax solo on Minor Booze, wasn't very good. Soprano sax solo was. Turtle Talk soloists were good. Wow! Stan was really worn out.
I met Roy when he was one of the two baris (with Greg Smith) and I was attending the summer Kenton clinic in Sacramento in (I think) '75. He was a super nice guy. Not gonna discuss what went on that Friday night tho...what happens in Sacramento...
The cymbals were Stan's own choice. The band had a specific set of cymbals that whatever drummer was on the band was required to use. After Stan passed away, his business office was selling off some of the band's memorabilia. A colleague of mine from my college days, a drummer named Dave Marks, purchased them.
@@nealbfinn You're correct, I had the privilege to play with Stan in the 70's and I can remember hitting that cymbal the first time in the warm up and thinking I need to go to the gym. An integral part of his sound and were they big and heavy. I watched Von Ohlen, Erskine and others breaking sticks in concert and no wonder.
I have loved Stan Kenton's orchestras & music since I was a young kid in Culver City, CA in the 1940's when I would hear his bands on the radio. I had two cousins who lived in Long Beach, CA that would go to dance to his music at venues in SoCal where he played & I envied them ! Then in 1971 I was blessed to have been at BYU working on my doctorate when Stan put on one of his famous & annual jazz workshops / symposiums at BYU & recorded it. We were at that concert & I have that record ! Then... in 1973 ... Stan brought his orchestra to Ventura, CA to put on a concert there - which my wife & I attended. It was AWESOME ! During the intermission I went to the head & ended up at the urinal NEXT TO STAN !! I had noticed that EVERY ONE of his band members ( including him ) was wearing a little white button on their suit coat lapel so I asked Stan what that little white button said. We walked to the sinks to wash our hands & he took off his button & handed it to me ! It said ''FIGHT BULLSHIT!" ... I still have that button & will treasure it always !!
note: I am 81 years young ! 😉👌
That’s the best story ever!! 😂
3/26/24 I am now 85... leaned in on the stage railing at WestView Park's, Danceland (Pittsburgh, PA) and dug the big bands that cycled through in them glorious early 50's. The Kenton band was never missed by us musicianly kids. Thanks for reminding me of that great era. Regards, Jack
I have played in jazz big bands and this one here is the creme de la creme. Smokin' smooth too.
Stan Kenton my favourite band ever since l was 17. Now in my 80s still enjoy
Nobody played with such power and beauty.The arrangements never took away from the many ballads of the American Songbook
My mom named me after Stan Kenton. My middle name. What an honor. I got to see him live in Chattanooga, TN once in the late 1970s. He & his orchestra were playing at the "River's Edge", which as far as I know, no longer exists. Anyway, walking into this venue (which had hardwood floors at the time), the sound of the band was magnificent and the reverberation of the amazingly talented band was surreal. A slightly rectangle-shaped performance hall, the band's sound projected so perfectly that it sounded like one of his best records on the finest playback equipment. Perfect.
During a break, I approached Mr. Kenton and when it was my turn, I told him my mom had named me after him and I showed him my Tennessee driver's license. Timothy Kenton... He smiled and passed it around to the brass section. One of the trumpeters said, "Hey look! It's another one of Mr. Kenton's kids!". Ha. I finally got my license back, the brass section had a good laugh. As is often typical, the saxophones didn't much care for the brass's joke. You know how it is...saxophones never laugh at trumpet jokes; visa versa. Lol
Was a great once in a lifetime experience.
Thank you Mr. Kenton for dreaming big and creating something in music that never was and really, never would have been without your vision and drive and amazing creativity.
Kentons music defined a whole way of life. Freedom at its best.
Agreed
Now 87 Had the privilege of meeting Stan Kenton at the Fairfield Halls Croydon UK had quite a collection but youngsters who had never listened to a big band like that I gave a few recordings away my favors still intermission riff and national anthem of the world
I and my brother started listening to Stan in 1947. Through the years we had an almost double collection of his records and saw him the times he came to Minnesota. We were both musicians, brother played trumpet and I drums and admired those sections. My brother is gone but I have most of my collection. It is hard to find anyone that even remember him. I found you could buy all of his music on cd's and then of course you can watch and listen on youtube even more stuff. There is no sound like it. Even the drum corps play his stuff. Bob Jenkins
HI Bob.
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Alto Saxophone [Lead] - Michael Bard
Baritone Saxophone - Dan Landis, Jack Stuckey
Bass - Kirk Smith
Bass Trombone - Alan Morrissey
Drums - Jay Cummings
Percussion [Latin] - Ramon Lopez
Piano, Leader - Stan Kenton
Tenor Saxophone - Peter Asch, Roy Reynolds (Plus Flute on El Manicero)
Trombone - A. G. Robeson, Denny Brunk*, Tom Lacey
Trombone [Lead] - Roger Homefield
Trumpet - Bob Doll, Bruce Haag, Clay Jenkins, Tom Baker
Trumpet [Lead] - Steve Campos
Recorded on 18th March 1978 at The Coconut Grove, Los Angeles
The audio tapes are also released separately as The Lost Concert I - Live At The Coconut Grove In L.A. and The Lost Concert II - Live At The Coconut Grove in L.A.
Thank you very much!
Thanks! I was hoping someone would post musicians' names.
I think Tom Baker is lead, Steve usually played 3rd
@@chasefreak Well, pick my nit!
@@rtblues LOL-the only reason I know is that in 1978 Scott Laskey was offered the lead chair on the Kenton band and declined to keep working for Mr. Schilke, he told me his buddy Tom Baker got the job
Gone but not forgotten
Michael Bard was in Portland for years. Bob Doll and Roger Homefield worked w/ Buddy Rich too. and Clay Jenkins has become one of the great jazz trumpeters of our time.
I saw Kenton and his band live in the early 70s. Bought his records. The best big band of his era!
If Kenton was in a 150 mile radius we would see him
Have most of his albums autographed
Knew his road manager.Jenny Ladd.Used to subscribe to his magazine.Have a picture of him giving an interview in California
He was rushed and had on one tie shoe and one slip on shoe.
Stan Kenton made Maynard a star! I love Stan Kenton!
"Takes one to make one."
I'm not the biggest SK fan but it's obvious he was a very talented and well rounded musician who could do everything (play, arrange, envision, compose, rehearse, conduct, promote, emcee, etc.), including *teach well*, because that's what good teachers do, propel their proteges to even higher levels of greatness.
This is when I really miss my dad. I wish I could show him this. He took me, as a ten year old, to see the Kenton Band at Hammersmith and I was blown away. He wanted to show me there were far better big bands than the Syd Lawrence/Glen Miller styles. This got me into liking Basie, Herman, Heath and Quincy Jones and realising there was so much more out there than the spoon fed stuff.
The Kenton at Tropicana and West Side Story albums are amongst my most played fifty one years after first hearing him.
The year was 1969 the place Toronto Okeith Centre The Stan Kenton Band was in concert I was just 17 and I reluctantly went along with my Dad and his buddy. That night was a so amazing the artistry and the power. The sound that band could produce was true expresion it was hipnotic and to me to another diamension it was life changeing.
I was lucky enough to catch Kenton at the Frog and Nightgown in Durham NC in the late seventies. Small room with outstanding acoustics -the best musical
experience of my life. Mostly young musicians -with a couple of his older guys.
Would that be the "Frock & Nightgown" in Durham, NC ? Just wondering..
@@dcasper8514 yeah -long time ago
This has made my day.A master piece.My first Stan Kenton 78rpm.record I bought in 1947 I was 16 yrs. old Painted Rhythm/ Peanut Vendor,now in my 90th.year.An amazing Orchestra never the like to be heard again....Have you ever heard Chelsea Bridge played so good.The ‘Kenton’Trombone sound just marvellous.
Just past 80, I've been a Kenton fan almost all my life. What a grand sound. What a legacy.
Didn't the U.K. have its' own Stan Kenton clone in the form of the Vic Lewis Concert Orchestra right down to vocalist Jacqeline Jennings who if if you closed your eyes sounded exactly like Chris Connors. ...Ted Heath ( the band leader not the Prime Minister) tried but never quite succeeded.
thank god for us old timers with taste
Just past 50, so am I.
I'm 90 and I dug Kenton in 1943 and I dig him now! Bob Thurber
Nearing 22, I’ve been a fan of Kenton since 20😅
Pretty much the apex of big band, that Stan Kenton Orchestra. Took it to the limit.
Body and Soul: 0:35
A Little Minor Booze: 7:09
Chelsea Bridge: 16:11
Turtle Talk: 25:09
All The Things You Are: 30:48
Malaguena: 35:42
Bogota: 40:44
Lush Life: 45:15
The Peanut Vendor: 50:48
Roy's Blues: 58:37
Intermission Riff: 1:06:22
Artistry in Rhythm: 1:19:43
Brian Tsoy, thank you. This should have been posted underneath the description.
I've been on a "little minor booze binge" . Glad you took the time to list all the pieces and titles.
Found several great performances of this great tune
You have some good stuff. How can we get together? Are you near Halifax? What is a good time for you?JMHill
Thank you ! VERY HELPFUL !!!!!
Wonderful! Thanks! John
What a treasure this is, thanks for posting.
Bought my 1st Kenton album in 1950 or 51 and have added many more since then. Used to ride the Rocket from Peoria to Chicago to catch him at the Blue Note. Still
1978 was one of two summers I got to spend at the Kenton Clinic in Towson, MD. Being able to sit in with these guys as an 18 year old was and still is one of my favorite life thrills. John Harner and Peter Erskin, trumpet and drums.
Wow, glad I found this video.
As I was saying before I was interrupted. A great concert & as usual a great band of musicians. The sound is awesome. Thanks for posting, much appricated. A fan since I saw him in Dublin in 1953
I saw Kenton at Ricks College (south east Idaho) in the spring of 1978. It was the end of an Era, but the music lives on.
Foi um inspiradores dos músicos brasileiros que desenvolveram o movimento musical denominado Bossa Nova. Muito admirado no Brasil. Sua Orquestra era espetacular. Os arranjadores, integrantes e o próprio Stan Kenton muito inspirados.
I've been a big fan of every Kenton incarnation since hearing his recordings in the late 50's while in high school. Mostly Artistry in Rhythm to start then added Maynard to my hall of idols, being a trumpet player myself. I'm still thrilled by the whole package. Many years ago he came to Kalamazoo at Don Neal's club. Got a signed 7.5 on the Richter Scale.
What do you play? When can we meet? JMH
This was performed on March 18, 1978. In just a little over a year on August 25 1978 we lost Stan forever. But to those of who loved his music and loved the man, he will live forever. I had the great good fortune of meeting him and visiting with him a number of times. he was always gracious and friendly there's not a day goes by I don't miss him. I had better stop now, the tears are really starting to fall.
What a lovely tribute. Am nearly 83 and have been a lifetime fan. Wish I still my old Capitol 78 rpm Peanut Vendor. One of my 8 Desert Island Discs. Kind regards.
I too appreciated being with/around Stan Kenton as a college student, on vacation at Tan Tara Resort in Missouri, as a band director in Kansas, and as a District Manager for Yamaha Pianos. On each occasion, being able to speak directly with him, he was very gracious and caring, but he was interested in how my career had advanced. He told me in 1961 after I told him I was majoring in piano, he said to stick to that. There would always be possibilities unlike other instruments. I took to that recommendation. I had a successful career in music based on the piano for over 49 years.
The correct date of Stan's death was August 25, 1979, age only 67.
Jay, stand by for a meeting announcement. What day and time would you choose? JMH
@@PokeyCody I'm glad someone mentioned that it was 1979
Soy fan de Stan Kenton desde los doce años de edad. El fue mi primer ídolo del jazz y su influencia ha sido muy importante para mi. Soy abogado y aun cuando toco el piano, no tuve formación profesional como músico, pero Mr. Kenton es parte de mi infancia y primera juventud. Gracias.
NOBODY ever got more out of their trombones than did Stan Kenton! Not even close.
Great post Jack..a big thank you from Vegas. Stan was The Man. Saw the band in all its glory in Toronto at the Palais Royale...great memories!!
Outstanding. Worth it even more for Intermission Riff and Artistry in Rhythm as the final pieces. Flawless and wonderful live performance.
One of my all time faves…played it in high school
stan kenton and his band of renown- the big band sound in its heyday was and will always be wonderful - magnificent
I think that was Les Brown his Band of Renown
@@MrAbstraxsax sorry - as they say - The older you get, the more you forget!
Tell me about it. I can remember things from 40 years ago but I can't remember where I put my keys 10 minutes ago....
@@MrAbstraxsax how true another old saying- Experience is a forgotten teacher?
Or did i just make that up because i can't remember the correct quote?!
@@richardwalker9826 In some cases a teacher is a best forgotten experience.......
My dad took me to my first Stan Kenton concert right around this era, 'The Leisure Suit' tour, lol. Incredible sound live. I can remember waiting in the drinking fountain line with band members, but I never had that urinal encounter, ah yes, the ole key of P......... Love this video.
Personnel?? .....absolutely INSANE tempo for Turtle Talk....well done....well done!
That’s one fast-talkin’ turtle!
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UNT Alum in the house. Wow, what an archive this is!
I got my first 78 ever in 1948 and it was "The Peanut Vendor/Painted Rhythm". Loved Kenton's sound ever since (I'm 80 now). Stan Kenton and Glenn Miller, in my humble opinion, are the only band leaders who "created" new styles in Jazz band/orchestra.
Sergio December 2016. Thanks.
Glenn Miller was the first band I played with after graduating college (75-76) followed by Stan Kenton in 78. You have good taste!
Hi Jack....do you have anything with Charlie Harmon on it. I saw the little post you put up with him. I am his son, Charles, Jr....Thank you
I was on the Miller road band during those years when Buddy DeFranco led...was Richie Barz the contractor/Alto sax as you remember ?
Before that I did a short road tour with Ray Conniff -2nd chair t-bone-where Fitz had the lead chair...Bob Fitzpatrick had a huge sound; overpowered the whole orchestra.. He was not healthy during that time...also on that Conniff tour, was Ernie Tack who went on to play bass t-bone on Doc's band after Carson moved his show from NY to Burbank..I am a lot older than you--graduated college 1961 and went to US Navy school of music when Sam Donahue led the jazz group there...impressive musical chops....Kenton featured some amazing trombonists..Carl Fontana, Kai Winding, Frank Rosolino and many others.Thanks for posting this.
What? Not Benny Goodman ?
I got my first stack of 78s in 1982 (as a teenager) and one of them was "The Peanut Vendor." I also scored a copy of "Orange Colored Sky" which is too often overlooked. During that period I played in college bands and listened to Kenton, Ferguson, Chick Corea + my favorite - Bill Watrous. Of the Kenton material I remember the album "Kenton in Hifi," which I scored a never-played-copy of at George Moore's house- a guy who had a garage+room additions filled with 78 rpm records somewhere in Southern California. Transferred that to reel to reel right away and listened to it a few hundred times! The redo of that album in Stereophonic was pretty good too as I recall!
What memories! Just caught him once - Cain's Ballroom, in Tulsa. I was in college. Now 82. The best.
Uma das mais importantes orquestras de jazz norte americanas de todos os tempos!
THANK YOU for posting
I used to love playing these arrangements in the Barry Veith Big Band - such focussed years of innovative music performance for everyone involved.
Fantastic!
Stan Kenton and his big band(s)….a treasure!!
Like some of the other contributors, my first jazz record was a secondhand copy of Peanut Vendor found in a backstreet shop in Liverpool around 1956/7..
Always like Kenton's inventive music and he was always able to attract top class musicians to create a unique sound. This "lost concert" is superb.
Good job Jack, thanks for sharing this.
WOW! This is some GREAT STUFF! Thanks for posting it!!!
So happen to find this video as Stan Kenton always has been MY FAVOURITE band to listen to...wonderful to watch , thank you...
and what the hell do they start off with......my FATHER"S favourite song...WOW!!
@@gerryvanderzeypen1214 body and soul, I think!
@@MadiTheMiss Absolutely....!
What charts and what a band.
I love this music 🎶
The concert was March 18, 1978, Stan's last band. It's a bootleg recording, meaning unauthorized. None of the musicians were paid. Here are notes from the website where you can purchase it.
Just released: an incredible DVD video of the legendary Lost Stan Kenton Concert from March 1978, digitally re-mastered and enhanced for DVD, with interactive menus and the same great digital sound as the original audio CD.
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This engagement in March 1978 does not appear in any of the band's published itineraries. Even Audree Coke Kenton could not find any record of this concert in Kentonia files. When Robert Widener presented the band in 1977, Stan could not be there because of his tragic accident in Reading, PA. Bob kept in touch with Stan and his agent, Willard Alexander. The idea of reopening the legendary Cocoanut Grove appealed to them. Widener made arrangements to reopen this historic room which had been mothballed and unused for years. Bob advised his mailing list that Kenton would be back, and it would be at the Cocoanut Grove. Willard Alexander called and said, March in California. Bob picked Saturday, March 18. Stan's fans rushed to book seats and the event sold out in days. Because of short notice, the engagement never appeared in published itineraries. The room was full of celebrities: Benny Goodman, Nelson Riddle, Henry and Ginny Mancini, Joe Bushkin, Bobby Troup, Julie London, Arthur Godfrey, Chubby Jackson, to name a few. Stan was in a jovial mood, and the band was sensational - some say the best of his career. In 1997, Bob discovered the tapes in storage, and the Lost Concert video was found! --The Lost Stan Kenton website
Hi. On the matter of the bootleg, during my time as a musician in and around the UK, when the time of the VHS or Beta camcorder arrived, sometimes the sound engineers mixer in the booth would video a performance for their own ends. In this performance , the camera is rock steady showing that it was not the usual crap shaky bootleg which would be taken by a member of the audience. Glad it was done as this performance is just great.
SET LIST + PERSONNEL
1. Body & Soul: 0:35
2. A Little Minor Booze: 7:09
3. Chelsea Bridge: 16:11
4. Turtle Talk: 25:09
5. All The Things You Are: 30:48
6. Malaguena: 35:42
7. Bogota: 40:44
8. Lush Life: 45:15
9. The Peanut Vendor: 50:48
10. Roy's Blues: 58:37
11. Intermission Riff: 1:06:22
12. Artistry in Rhythm: 1:19:43
TPTS: Clay Jenkins, Bob Coassin/SL Tom Baker/SL, Bruce Haag, Bob Doll
BONES: A.G. Robeson, Denny Brunk, Roger Homefield/L, Tom Lacey, Alan Morrissey/B
SAXES: Michael Bard/A, Peter Asch/T, Roy Reynolds/T, Dan Landis/B, Jack Stuckey/B
B: Kirk Smith D: Jay Cummings, Congas: Ramon Lopez
...Rec. March 18, 1978 at The Coconut Grove, Los Angeles
czcams.com/video/sbyJkqZotcA/video.html (84mins) - by JACK STUCKEY
...Copy: czcams.com/video/02vIioH6y-o/video.html (84mins)
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@jackstuck, it’d be great if you Edit the Description and copy/paste the above in.
The West Morris H.S.jazz band which featured Dan Landis(front row,far rjght,on bari sax),visited the middle school I attended in N.J.I went to West Morris the following year,played in the jazz band and we became freinds.I am thankful to Dan for introducing me to jazz.He is a retired music teacher of the Long Valley school system in N.J.
I cut my teeth on Peanut Vendor, and Sing Sing Sing ! i was 17, now in my 80th year, i believe I've seen an heard the greatest 60 years of music anyone could wish for and, oh yes ! Buddy Rich.
Same age; got to see/hear Kenton's group in the fifties/sixties at the Fort Ord Soldiers Club (since torn down due to Pacific Ocean erosion). Delightful, impressive, memorable, and more.
Yep - me too . ( 82 :)
Yeah - Buddy Rich - from another planet !
Way back in the early fifties while doing my National Service in the army a few of us managed to get tickets to his concert at the Sport Palast Berlin . We were quite close to the stage and after all these years I can still remember June Christie singing along with the full Orchestra. .. Memories of lounging off duty listening to A.F.N. and RIAS on our Lorenz radio ..Stan and his wonderful Concerts in Mniature. We didn't make much money but oh what a great time we had Pity the Army used to do its best to spoil it all threatening to post us to Korea if we didn't smarten up behave ourselves.
jupiter912 yeah ,same here only ,in the New Zealand Artillery, 3rd Field Regiment. Saw Louis, Eddie Condons outfit, Oscar Peterson,Thelionus, Ted Heath. Johnnie Dankworth and Cleo Laine, Kenny Ball, Chris Barber, Shirley Bassey, Sassy, Tommy Dorsey, The Shadows,and more ; Kenton never toured N.Z. regrettably.. great days
I wish I could've listen to his band live, a feeling and sight I could only dream of
They were incredible live! I attended Kenton clinics from '76 to ' 78 at Drury University. There were concerts every night and my favorite story is I took my Dad one night. After the 2nd song, Stan introed the piece, let the band take over, then exited the stage. A minute later, Stan was by our seats and said, "Mind if I set there?" next to my Dad. I think Dad about shit his pants. When it was close to where Stan needed to get back in, he said thank you, went back up to the stage, and finished the song. Still love his music and bands.
@@randypeterson8968 man I envy you, I’m a young student who likes to listen to jazz, and his band and pieces are some of my favorites I’m glad you had such a close experience with the man himself
I first heard him in the 40s & I'ved always worshiped him ever since. I saw him 6 times & he got better & better. what music. Thank pity we can still hear him. Pops just hog wash! Metal not too bad but theres only one music Mr S. N. Kenton.
I played baritone with the last band. Even though Stan wasn't in the best shape you he still had a presence that was inspiring, all the history he made in his career. If you haven't already read it, you'd really enjoy "Stan Kenton - Artistry in Rhythm". It's amazing how hard he worked to keep bands together. Even at the end he couldn't imagine life without a band.
When I was 15 I hung out at the Lighthouse Cafe in Hermosa Beach. I met Shorty Rogers, Milt Berhart, Jimmy Guiffre, Shelly Manne, and of course Howard Rumsey back then. All ex Kentonites.
Who was the lead trombone?
"Body and soul" by Edward Heyman, Robert Sour, Frank Eyton, John Green; "A little minor booze" by Willie Maiden; "Chelsea Bridge", "Lush life" by Billy Strayhorn; "Turtle talk" by Dee Barton; "All the things you are" by Oscar Hammerstein II, Jerome Kern; "Malagueña" by Ernesto Lecuona; "Bogota"; "The peanut vendor" by Marion Sunshine, L. Wolfe Gilbert, Moises Simons; "Roy's blues"; "Intermission riff" by Steve Graham, Ray Wetzel; "Artistry in rhythm" by Stan Kenton.
Personnel on Camera
Stan Kenton and his Orchestra (including Clay Jenkins, Steve Campos, Bob Doll, Bob Coassin?, trumpet; Dennis Brunk, Roger Homefield, Allan Morrissey, A. G. Robeson, Tom Lacy, trombone; Michael Bard, Roy Reynolds, David Landis, Jack Stuckey,+ ?1, reeds; Stan Kenton, piano, leader; Kirk Smith, acoustic double bass; + ?drs; Ramon H. Lopez, perc)
@@jackstuck Hi, My favourite would have to be Capitol Punishment from a slightly earlier time..... Ah those 78s from yester years ...Used to shatter into pieces if you accidentally sat on them when someone carelessly left them on a chair! Maybe that's why so few are around today!
The only sound that can compete with Kenton for perfection might possibly be a perfectly tuned Formula 1 car just prior to the annual Grand Prix of Monaco,... and even then, Kenton wins!
What a great find! The first record I bought way back when was Artistry Jumps n a 78.
This band cooks with all the back pressure of a nuclear bomb reaching criticality and a subtlety only obtained by running a fog horn through a bucket mute! Good GOD...!!!
This is definitely one of his best 70s bands! Great soloists and no TL in the saxes!
What does TL in the saxes mean?
@@BillSmith-rx9rm Terry Layne was the lead alto in 1976 and part of 1975, whose playing aroused controversy in band. Several players quit the band because Stan refused to fire him. To quote one of the former bass players, John Worster: "The saxes are the weakest section, because we don't have a lead alto. Terry Layne is an inexperienced rock-oriented player who hasn't got his instrument down. His solos are inconsistent, he's not careful about changes, and his pitch varies - he hasn't really learned to control the instrument, and that's not the proper chair for someone to learn to play on. This band has too long a history of good lead alto players, and the section cannot sound well without a good lead."
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Thanks, Jack for posting. Someone had a question about what arrangements were here but I'll do my best. 1st set--Body and Soul, A Little Minor Booze, Chelsea Bridge, Turtle Talk, All The Things You Are, Malaguena 2nd set--Bogota, Lush Life, Peanut Vendor, Blues for Roy (not sure of that one), Intermission Riff, Artistry In Rhythm. Hope I got close.
Roy's Blues
Roy Reynolds
Thank you for sharing this Jack Stuckey.
I'm just now really appreciating the amazing and powerful bebob era.
First time I see a ténor sax.2 replaced by a baritone for a whole concert.
Smokin' band!
Alto Saxophone [Lead] - Michael Bard
Baritone Saxophone - Dan Landis, Jack Stuckey
Bass - Kirk Smith
Bass Trombone - Alan Morrissey
Drums - Jay Cummings
Percussion [Latin] - Ramon Lopez
Piano, Leader - Stan Kenton
Tenor Saxophone - Peter Asch, Roy Reynolds
Trombone - A. G. Robeson, Denny Brunk*, Tom Lacey
Trombone [Lead] - Roger Homefield
Trumpet - Bob Doll, Bruce Haag, Clay Jenkins, Tom Baker
Trumpet [Lead] - Steve Campos
@@jackstuck Thanks, Jack!
groveland!
Jay Cummings on drums, a student of the late great John Von Ohlen, The Baron.....
Von Ohlen, one of the most unique and outstanding drummers to have ever played. I count myself a student too, it was John who got me into drumming.
@@rodlegybe3797 The Baron was a musician's musician who happened to play drums.... and fit the Kenton band of his era like a glove....RIP VO
I started to listening to Stan Kenton because as a 17 year old trombone player I was so impressed by Kent Larson and Bob Bruckmiar and ever since love the way he always arranges the bone section
Brookmeyer
my father was one of the biggest fans from stan
My late dad, born in the early 1930's, was also a great fan. Don't know if dad ever saw Kenton live though, and sadly there's almost no one left for me to ask!
Formidabili
Steve Stalzle is a cool guy.
Ther setup for the saxes are a little different than what was usual for the band in that the two tenors are on the left, then the alto and then the two baris. In previous versions of the band. it was from left to right: Baritone, Tenor, Alto, Tenor Baritone - Interesting, to say the least.
This appreciation comes from Dublin .Ireland. A great concert & as useal
Patrick Young, the UK had the Ted Heath band which was also an extraordinary group.
If only they all were..
@Jack Stuckey, nice posting, can you tell us anything about this recording's source, approximate date, location? Thanks
From the hair and beards I would put it in the 70s. At the beginning the announcer says it is at the Coconut Grove in the Ambassador Hotel, Los Angeles. The hotel closed in 1989. Stan passed in 79.
I see he went back to the traditional stage band setup here rather than that sprawled out triangular setup that he used during the early seventies.
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19:11 goes hard
Damn! That young bassist sure knew his chords and progressions . I KNOW that because I used to play the bass - but, I could never play as good as THAT guy .
The bass players name is Kirk Smith
Lotsa noise, but I believe I heard "body & Soul"..
Anybody know who the personnel is on this date?
I was born in '42 - admired Mr Kenton from the first time I heard 'Peanut'.
Any chance of some knowledgeable person putting up a Play List, PLEASE?
Body and Soul
A Little Minor Booze
Chelsea Bridge
Turtle Talk
All the Things You Are
Malaguena
Bogota
Lush Life
Peanut Vendor
Roy's Blues
Intermission Riff
Artistry in Rhythm
Dear Mr Stuckey
Not only are you a Star, but a FIVE Star Star.
Thank you very much indeed.
AAA
at 0:35 the "yeah ' sounds a lot like Maynard Ferguson.
A quick story. Sam Noto, who I believe played 2nd for Kenton, said that Maynard played 3rd trumpet. "He played just the high stuff." But he also mentioned that he got on the bus one day, and Maynard was ripping a huge callous off his lip. Sam asked "Doesn't that hurt"? and Maynard said, "well, yeah." As if it was just the price to pay.
Does anyone have a personnel listing for this concert? Always a GREAT band!!! The good ol days.
Alto Saxophone [Lead] - Michael Bard
Baritone Saxophone - Dan Landis, Jack Stuckey
Bass - Kirk Smith
Bass Trombone - Alan Morrissey
Drums - Jay Cummings
Percussion [Latin] - Ramon Lopez
Piano, Leader - Stan Kenton
Tenor Saxophone - Peter Asch, Roy Reynolds
Trombone - A. G. Robeson, Denny Brunk*, Tom Lacey
Trombone [Lead] - Roger Homefield
Trumpet - Bob Doll, Bruce Haag, Clay Jenkins, Tom Baker
Trumpet [Lead] - Steve Campos
@@jackstuck thanks so much!!
Thanks for posting, Jack. I remember that last band. After 11 years of Stan Kenton Clinics in Redlands and Sacramento we might have met briefly. Stan looked bad. You could see the scars from the surgery. He was smoking these long brown "More" cigarettes. I had not seen Stan smoke in years. I asked Denny Brunk (2nd trombone) about it and he said "Stan forgot that he quit smoking." But he could still make that piano sound full and lush, like he always did.
I recognise Roger Homefield in the lead bone chair (he kinda looks like me). Bob Doll and Bob Coassin in the tpt section. Bruce Haag on 2nd tpt? He was on Elvis' last tour as well. Is that Michael Bard on lead alto? Didn't know he was still on the band at that time. Roy Reynolds. of course, on tenor 1. And Denny Brunk on 2nd bone. Denny and I were struggling students in LA in the late 70's. He was from Kansas City I think. Real ice guy and fine player and singer. Haven't heard from him in decades.
I mean't nice guy, not "ice guy."
Greg Metcalf on Bari? Tom Lacey 3rd trombone? Jay Cummings on Drums?
Steve Campos on 3rd tpt. and I don't think that's Bruce Haag in the tpt section, although he did join the band at the end.
trumpets left to right: Clay Jenkins, Steve Campos, Bruce Haag, Bob Coassin, and Bob Doll. I'm sad to report that Steve Campos passed away a few years ago. Bass Trombonist Howard Hedges is also gone, many years ago. Bruce Haag has his own studio in Cincinnati, a trumpet / brass teacher...brucehaag.com
Could you name the trombone soloists on 'Malaguena', and 'The Peanut Vendor', please?
stan kenton and his band really are amazing, even young people enjoy his music. Sure it's not as prominent in today's society as it used to be but he has some really good music. I should know because we played But Beautiful in my high school jazz band and got to play lead trumpet and i'm only a freshman! By the way, what did you play for the band? @Jack Stuckey
I was the baritone player, second from the right in the video
Do the brass have music stands? I can't see them.
They do, but they are very low.
I know the visual quality of this isn't that clear, but does anyone know who the trumpet section is?
Clay Jenkins, Steve Campos, Bob Coassin (lead), Bruce Haag, Bob Doll
Hi Jack. Sorry to dispute your call on the trumpets, but that isn't Bob Coassin on lead
trumpet. Check out the clips of Bob with Buddy on YT. I reckon it's Tom Baker
You're right. Bob Coassin replaced Steve Campos, then switched to lead when Tom Baker left the band. Bob and I joined the band around the same time. I just remembered him playing lead, forgot that he didn't begin on that chair. Thanks for the correction. Steve was on the band long enough to make a big impression on me, of course. The video was filmed my 3rd day on the band at the reopening of the Coconut Grove ballroom in California!
@@jackstuck I have a question, and yes it's coming from a classical trumpet player that loves Herman/Kenton/Rich/Maynard/etc big band jazz. I guess it's trumpet related but could apply to all sections in Kentons band. If a lead trumpet player quit or got another gig, was there an open audition for groups like this or does it go by referral? For Example, if there was opening for 3rd trumpet Boston symphony, there'd be an audition for it so is that how it worked w/Kenton's band also?
@@junkyman2 There were never auditions. It was usually a recommendation from someone in the section looking for a new player. Although I was recommended by Bob Doll who was a trumpet player I went to college with. Also, Kenton had the advantage of hosting the Kenton clinics around the country so some players were recruited after hearing them play for a week.
Let's be honest, Stan Kenton did bring about some sort of original sound to Jazz/music. I came across many English " jazz fans " in UK in 1950s / 1960s who looked down on him.
I who be interested what you think.
Yeah, he didn't swing.
@@jazzbob57 Thanks for your reply/ comment, what is your comment concerning Fusion Jazz,, which was acceptable
by many Jazz fans around the globe. One could say fusion didn't swing.
Please no "smart Alex " reply, I've noticed people on these sites who hide behind the anonymous
( never give their real name) always somehow give unpleasant reply.
Noticed your original reply started off " Yeah" whats that all about ?Please think mature before you reply.
Thank you,
Peace to all.
@@alankirkby465 I heard the Kenton Band live five times and read the biography on him. I, myself, never noticed that his music didn't swing, though I thought that it did. This was a point of his to not do so. In his later years, he did more "concert" works and latin tunes. These did not incorporate swing in them, though they are considered to be jazz. Jazz doesn't have to swing. His early bands would have been considered swing bands, but with age he was after something different. I love his music. Don't get me wrong. I heard him live more than any other jazz band until I heard Maynard Ferguson more due to teaching jazz and taking students to hear a live jazz big band. Okay. Back to the topic at hand. There are many types of jazz music, just like there are many styles of rock music. Jazz Fusion can be many things a jazz group playing rock or a rock-instrumentated group playing jazz. It isn't the instruments. It isn't swing. It is more heavy chordings. Rarely does Jazz Fusion swing. I refer to Jazz Fusion has modern jazz more than anything, because there aren't many big band-type groups around anymore. The smaller sized groups tend to play music influenced by other genres. New Orleans Brass Bands, Soft Jazz, String Swing groups, and many more. Jazz is alive. Let's keep it that way. The british-style brass band I play and arrange for does many classic jazz tunes, because people love them. Variety of music is entertaining.
Alan, I "discovered" Kenton in the late 80's (when I was in my mid twenties) digging through records in a thrift shop looking for rock, mainstream jazz and surf music when I came across a 33 of Kenton in Hi Fi. I was hooked immediately and quickly started digging up everything I could find including bootlegs and old radio shows.
I understood what the Balboa kids were so excited about in 41 and 42 but I was surprised to find out the few friends I knew who liked "jazz" didn't like Kenton. "It does not swing" was what I heard most vibrantly from my best jazz friend (who also mentioned something about racism). I was a bit stunned to hear this verdict and I absolutely disagree but what do I know?
I soon realized I didn't read about Kenton in jazz books, I didn't see him included in tv jazz specials nor did I ever hear him on PBS or public radio shows. Kenton has been somewhat whitewashed from the history of jazz.
Kenton somehow opened a new door for me as It sounded MODERN in a way that I still cant describe. I hear many musicians from Mancini, Quincy Jones, Neil Hefti, and literally every TV jazz soundtrack of the 50's early sixties borrowing elements of his unique modern sound. Of course the stuff with vocalist is fantastic as well.
Some of his recordings in the fifties didn't quite connect but he rebounded in the early 60's and during the Creative World period.
This concert is great but it made me realize that Kentons career was relatively "short", 41 to 78. 37 years is not long when compared to a lot of modern pop rock acts like Rolling Stones, or Kiss.
Where is Dick Shearer? I thought he was with the band until the end.
Roger Homefield replaced Dick for the last tour beginning in 1978, about 7 months I believe.
What’s the name of the first number they play?
-Body and Soul, A Little Minor Booze, Chelsea Bridge, Turtle Talk, All The Things You Are, Malaguena 2nd set--Bogota, Lush Life, Peanut Vendor, Roy's Blues, Intermission Riff, Artistry In Rhythm
Kenton, Basie and Woody.
You can have the rest. No offense.
Anybody remember Kenton's 'Gloomy Sunday' which was banned from being played on the radio because to many people were committing suicide after listening to it. You can find it on line if you look hard enough.
Always loved Kenton's music, until my attention was drawn by devastating story about his undecent behaviour towards his daughter Leslie. A reason to start hating 'Stan the Man'. She wrote a book about it.
Happen to recall the personnel on this hit?
Who was the lead trombone player?
Roger Homefield. He also played with Maynard Ferguson
Thanks. MONSTER CHOPS !!
@@jackstuck what happened to Dickus?
@@247hdjazz After his long run with SK, Dick showed up in a few places. He was teaching in Michigan at Wayne State University and I recall he was at Mt. Hood College in Oregon after Larry McVey passed away. He was in LA in 83-84 and our paths crossed a couple of times with rehearsal bands. He had gained a lot of weight by then....was well over 500 lbs. He passed in 1997.
Man, where's Dick Shearer?
He didn't come back for the 1978 tour. He was replaced by Roger Homefield, who played very much in the Bob Fitzpatrick style.
@@ericstegeman2863 Thanks, buddy. Wasn't Lloyd Spoon part of that band as well?
I see Roy Reynolds (one of the tenors). And that's got to be Ramon Lopez on congas.
The bari sax solo on Minor Booze, wasn't very good. Soprano sax solo was.
Turtle Talk soloists were good.
Wow! Stan was really worn out.
I met Roy when he was one of the two baris (with Greg Smith) and I was attending the summer Kenton clinic in Sacramento in (I think) '75. He was a super nice guy. Not gonna discuss what went on that Friday night tho...what happens in Sacramento...
Kenton had bad taste in one area: cymbals. There is simply too much cymbal noise in much of his music, making it unlistenable to me.
you are an idiot! he had NOTHING to do with cymbals!
Everything including cymbals somehow adds to whole Kenton overall Kenton sound.
Dee Barton, comes to mind.
The cymbals were Stan's own choice. The band had a specific set of cymbals that whatever drummer was on the band was required to use. After Stan passed away, his business office was selling off some of the band's memorabilia. A colleague of mine from my college days, a drummer named Dave Marks, purchased them.
@@nealbfinn You're correct, I had the privilege to play with Stan in the 70's and I can remember hitting that cymbal the first time in the warm up and thinking I need to go to the gym. An integral part of his sound and were they big and heavy. I watched Von Ohlen, Erskine and others breaking sticks in concert and no wonder.