Graphene Coatings VS Ceramic Coatings

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  • Graphene coatings are now being sold in the detailing world as an innovation over Ceramic Coatings. They claim to have better protection and water spot resistance than Ceramic Coatings, but is it all hype? Join me as I test Ethos Graphene coating against Gtehcniq Crystal Serum Light and learn as much as I can about this new coating.
    Correction 6:24 Ethos recommends waiting 1 hour before applying second layer
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  • @nospam-hn7xm
    @nospam-hn7xm Před 3 lety +432

    Never in a million years would I have imagined sitting through an hour video of product testing for an auto coating material. This is the most fascinating, comprehensive, understandable, and unbiased product test I've ever seen. Jason, you've done an outstanding job. I am truly impressed. Wished you lived and worked in the Miami area.

    • @andrewsaint6581
      @andrewsaint6581 Před 2 lety +8

      There is a twenty minute video on washing microfibre cloths somewhere. Brilliant, like this.
      PS, I got the Mrs to get liquid detergent for the washing machine and not powder because of that video.
      Don't tell her why though.

    • @charliegoodwyn9792
      @charliegoodwyn9792 Před 2 lety +1

      Fantastic job thank you so very much

    • @stevenstockman6894
      @stevenstockman6894 Před 2 lety +1

      Same here.

    • @stevenstockman6894
      @stevenstockman6894 Před 2 lety

      I learned a lot from that video

    • @firewoodtime2
      @firewoodtime2 Před 2 lety +4

      Project Farm is another great source.

  • @Daemonblade
    @Daemonblade Před 3 lety +310

    If I've learned anything from this video, it's that the best protection for your vehicles bodywork is purple tape.

  • @nicksdragon6929
    @nicksdragon6929 Před 3 lety +150

    Jason, after watching all six different videos by the CZcams superstars on the 303 graphenes, and so many others about the newest product in ceramics, the graphene, I think Ethos represents all of them in your example. My take is that your video has far surpassed all the others in its depth, scope, and conclusions. From what I can gather over the last couple of months and more specifically the last two weeks, Graphene is more of a new "Buzz" word than an actual new product that covers your car in graphene for protection. It is more of a different recipe within the ceramic world. AMMO NYC explains it better than anyone I have read or watched. Your test validates exactly what he explained on his charts, graphs, and chemical analysis. After everything has been said and done, my conclusion is that the "new" ceramic we are now calling "Graphene" are a little easier to apply than some of the other ceramics, but when it comes to all the other attributes, gloss, protection, water beading, water spot issues, and durability, well, they seem very similar indeed. The greatest video I have seen in a long time and I would love to see you and AMMO NYC join in producing a video. Thank you so much.

    • @randylee7557
      @randylee7557 Před 3 lety +7

      Can you link the video or article where AMMO NYC talks about graphene? I can't seem to find it.

    • @GoGreen041
      @GoGreen041 Před 3 lety +2

      @@randylee7557 look up his Reflex Pro video, he talks about it a few minutes in

  • @garykish8951
    @garykish8951 Před 3 lety +39

    This reminds me more of the investigative journalism stories that used to exist years (decades) ago.
    How refreshing to see this kind of reporting hasn't been lost like so much else.

  • @ObsessedGarage
    @ObsessedGarage Před 3 lety +258

    Jim is so fun to listen to when he is talking chemistry. Thanks for digging into this. Someone needed to do it! Well done Jason.

    • @TotalDetailing
      @TotalDetailing Před 3 lety +18

      I appreciated what Jason did here. He put the industry first, as a whole, over individual profits. The responses from the various Graphene coating companies is very telling of what is going on with these underdeveloped products. He saved me from buying $500 in coatings for my business that truly hasn't been properly vetted or developed.

    • @ChicagoAutoPros
      @ChicagoAutoPros  Před 3 lety +22

      Jim is a straight up, down to earth, intelligent dude. Thanks for the support Matt.

    • @demonslayer8085
      @demonslayer8085 Před 3 lety +4

      Appreciate CAP for making this vid on graphene! After watching the entire vid, I’d have to agree with the chemist from Dr Beasley, this is more marketing hype than an actual new product that is superior to ceramic coatings. I also take it that CAP came to the same conclusion as they mentioned in the description that they no longer carry Ethos Graphene!!

    • @richardpowell723
      @richardpowell723 Před 3 lety +1

      No need to go down that rabbit hole now...

    • @ScottHD
      @ScottHD Před 3 lety +5

      Agreed. Great video.

  • @DriveItRyan
    @DriveItRyan Před 3 lety +12

    Thank you for taking the time to compare these 2 coatings and really put them to the test. Well done!

  • @bear5446
    @bear5446 Před 3 lety +9

    As a newer detailer I appreciate the testing and the content on your channel... saves my business a ton of time and money. Money I'll probably spend at one of your classes/courses.

  • @Greg_P611
    @Greg_P611 Před 3 lety +114

    That chemist from Dr. Beasleys impresses me. You can tell he's honest to a T and doesn't have that corporate salesman type of talk. I'm definitely going to look into their products

    • @johnweichselberger314
      @johnweichselberger314 Před 3 lety

      (With a Southern Belle charm) Amen! ;)

    • @marjoriemorrison5004
      @marjoriemorrison5004 Před 3 lety +1

      Another good stuff.
      I always think that the advancement of technology is getting more and more remarkable rapidly.
      In the near future, ceramic coatings may get the feature of bulletproof.

    • @laxbeach2381
      @laxbeach2381 Před 3 lety +2

      The chemist seems knowledgeable, however there also seems to be a small hint of bias in his explanations, since he’s got a coating as well.

    • @__--JY-Moe--__
      @__--JY-Moe--__ Před 3 lety

      I'm just going 2 drink the whole sweet bottle...

    • @grantperkins368
      @grantperkins368 Před 3 lety

      He's a salesman, to my mind; he could have said no it's not going to stop a bullet ... giggle ...

  • @AndysAutoCarePlus
    @AndysAutoCarePlus Před 3 lety +4

    Absolutely great information and great testing at the end! I appreciate all your hard work on this Jason!

  • @3toedSloth75
    @3toedSloth75 Před 3 lety +5

    I appriciate the investigation format of this video. This is one of the biggest questions in the industry right now and there are no clear answers. All this investigation and info is greatly appriciated. Thank you.

  • @gcam474
    @gcam474 Před 3 lety +2

    Rock star dude! One of the best You Tube videos I’ve seen on ANYTHING! You really dig in to the tech. Thanks a million - or at least for the cost of my paint job. Cheers

  • @kd8227
    @kd8227 Před 3 lety +13

    I have been waiting for someone to explain graphene coating for some time, much appreciated guys great video

    • @zahidmerchantali3560
      @zahidmerchantali3560 Před 2 lety

      Adam's UV Graphene Ceramic Coating is a clear, nanocrystalline coating that protects your vehicle from weather, chemicals, and UV rays while repelling water, dirt and other contaminants. Providing 9H hardness, 7+ years of protection even in the harshest conditions.

  • @BJP719
    @BJP719 Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks for taking the time to create this video. Looking forward to the days when Graphene coatings can protect against door dings! For now I'll continue to park in BFE!

  • @caseycampbell245
    @caseycampbell245 Před 3 lety +9

    Great video. Thanks you Jason for putting this together.

  • @cbeserra
    @cbeserra Před 3 lety +2

    Excellent research! I was not expecting this level of commitment in a product review.

  • @I_Am_Jesse_James
    @I_Am_Jesse_James Před 3 lety +2

    This was awesome! Best hour I spent watching CZcams. Very excited to try this on my Audi

  • @TheCarDetailingChannel
    @TheCarDetailingChannel Před 3 lety +36

    This is one of the best videos on the internet when it comes to facts, knowledge, and just common sense when it comes to Graphene. I could listen to Jim explain things all day long

  • @BradleyNilsen
    @BradleyNilsen Před 3 lety +75

    Now coat half of a car in Graphene, and the other half in CSL. Live with it for 6-12 months, and report back monthly. This is the only real way to test a coating in my opinion. From my hands on experience with CSL that slickness you love will diminish quickly, as well as the crazy hydrophobicity unless topped with EXO. This is a great starting point, but I think it needs to be expanded and tested further for a true conclusion.

    • @cp5472
      @cp5472 Před 3 lety +3

      Agree!

    • @EclisseDetailing
      @EclisseDetailing Před 3 měsíci +1

      I have my vehicle with one side Avalon king and the other side Adam’s graphene. It has been over a year. Both are doing well but I think graphene is not as slick to me. I don’t think graphene makes much of a difference from what I experienced so far talking to other retailers and my own experience.

  • @allen5202
    @allen5202 Před rokem +1

    Been researching to learn more on ceramic coating for my car and saw this greatly put video. Informative yet entertaining at the same time. Subscribed right after the video! 👍🏻

  • @alfredojuarezaguilar304
    @alfredojuarezaguilar304 Před 3 lety +1

    I liked this very much tbh. I put off learning about the science behind graphene and Im glad you brought up points to think about for detailing needs. This helped make me choose what the company needs for what we are looking for.

  • @samharmon4692
    @samharmon4692 Před 3 lety +14

    Our industry needs more of this level of education. We as pros are not immune to the marketing buzz words (in fact, most of us probably use them, i.e. "hand wash" etc.) Thanks CAP for this video! I'm always looking for the best for my customers and feel that I stick my neck out hoping these products live up to the claims. At the end of the day, I'm the one that the customer will hold responsible. Thanks again.

    • @clintonmiller4917
      @clintonmiller4917 Před 4 měsíci

      Nice to know there are companies out there that still strives to do the best work possible and cares about their customers. Where are u located bro. I'm an Birds fan so you must be Philly/ South Jersey

  • @OtterRose1
    @OtterRose1 Před 2 lety +4

    I became a Graphene "fan" immediately upon hearing about it. I have been so excited about the MANY applications and developments, and THESE interviews with Jim and Tim are among the most helpful for me out of a couple of hundred videos!!

  • @malachi0420
    @malachi0420 Před rokem

    Most informative and enjoyable detailing video i have seen in awhile. I really appreciate the time and effort you shared with all of us making this video. Two thumbs up easy!!

  • @mitchellgross6982
    @mitchellgross6982 Před rokem

    One of the best and informative videos I've seen. Congratulations on your attention to detail and integrity.

  • @wittawatter
    @wittawatter Před 3 lety +93

    I'm more impressed with that tape holding up then both the coatings 😅

    • @franksattler6053
      @franksattler6053 Před 3 lety +2

      I had the same thought as I watched this.

    • @reavis1474
      @reavis1474 Před 3 lety +2

      Same here. That tape is impressive

    • @WASTED__POTENTIAL
      @WASTED__POTENTIAL Před 3 lety +10

      Exactly what I came to say. That tape needs to be sent off to Project Farm for testing.

    • @a111z
      @a111z Před 2 lety

      3M Automotive painters tape for curved surfaces.
      It’s good stuff.

    • @littlefishinggoat5409
      @littlefishinggoat5409 Před 2 lety

      I'm going to try the tape as a full PPF wrap! (No not really! 😉🤣)

  • @ChicagoAutoPros
    @ChicagoAutoPros  Před 3 lety +29

    Correction 6:24 Ethos recommends waiting 1 hour before applying second layer

    • @Jayg80
      @Jayg80 Před 3 lety +8

      Ethos Car Care does this mean it was an unfair test of the product?

    • @ChicagoAutoPros
      @ChicagoAutoPros  Před 3 lety +3

      Jay G not at all, it just means it’s one layer vs one layer.

    • @Jayg80
      @Jayg80 Před 3 lety +1

      Chicago Auto Pros I totally agree but the test was manufacturer recommendation, which is two for Ethos

    • @MatheusSantos-wn9io
      @MatheusSantos-wn9io Před 3 lety

      @@ChicagoAutoPros who take the best ?

    • @satulytman
      @satulytman Před 3 lety +6

      If graphene exhibits certain magical properties only when it is one atom thick, why would anyone recommend putting on 2 applications?

  • @reflectonauto
    @reflectonauto Před 2 lety

    Appreciate the time and effort you took to help us all with an eye opening video on the graphene coatings. Kudos to you. Heartfelt Thanks.

  • @jshrawder49
    @jshrawder49 Před 3 lety

    that was so well done! Thanks fo riding that test and getting the details about the products.

  • @tristengarrett2722
    @tristengarrett2722 Před 3 lety +16

    I use graphene ceramic coating on all of my clients vehicles and I’ve found out it that it keeps it’s water heading for years. I had a previous ceramic coating on my personal vehicle and i polished again and applied the graphene coating and it goes on very easy, it wipes off easy and so far after a year it looks like the first day that I put it on

    • @GSP-76
      @GSP-76 Před měsícem +1

      How has your graphene coatings held up? Your message was 3 years ago so id be interested to hear your opinion on graphene now that a lot of time has passed...i personally love the 303 nano graphene spray...it applies so easy, doesn't require a ton of orep work and can easily be reapplied as needed. Do uou orefer a specific product?

  • @melvinmontes3505
    @melvinmontes3505 Před 3 lety +3

    Hey Bud! As a professional looking into these products, I cannot stress the gratitude to you for doing this video!
    Thanks !!

  • @weliftnation2418
    @weliftnation2418 Před 2 lety

    Wow great video. I just subscribed. Thank you for the time you toke to discover everything possible knowledge to understand every product you work with, and to help you and all of us understand what works and what dosnt. Thank you bro again.

  • @Whissht
    @Whissht Před rokem +1

    I wish every mechanic, store, shit I buy, other services, doctors, etc was as honest, transparent, thorough, curious and as detailed as this guy. What an amazing video

  • @JamieTheCleaner
    @JamieTheCleaner Před 3 lety +5

    Thank You CAP for the deep dive into this subject learned a lot!

  • @MarkusKleis
    @MarkusKleis Před 3 lety +47

    To clarify, because I don't think Beasley property answered your question about graphene in relation to the strength. The notion that graphene is 200x stronger than steel is ONLY true when you talk about a ONE ATOM thick layer, which is how graphene lays out, compared to one atom thick of steel. Steel, like "bullet proof glass," is not actually bullet proof until they reach a certain thickness.
    Furthermore, the "strength" of graphene is based on a linear force test, since graphene itself is 1 layer thick, and means that pulling it apart from both ends (effectively) makes it the strongest. But the question then becomes, how then does that play a role in a coating when the formula obviously contains 98%+ NON-graphene material. Still waiting on that answer.

    • @ChicagoAutoPros
      @ChicagoAutoPros  Před 3 lety +14

      The answer is that he has not seen any benefit of adding Graphene into a coating because it’s not creating the lattice structure needed to create the “barrier” layer.

    • @MarkusKleis
      @MarkusKleis Před 3 lety +2

      Maze to confusion But we don’t know from what. I have been asking this question since graphene was first toted. Nobody has given even a basic explanation for HOW the graphene itself causes that. It *could* be helping, but we don’t know if it is something else in the formula.

    • @amounifnd
      @amounifnd Před 3 lety +2

      Great point. You would still poke your finger through 200x atoms width of steel.

    • @sthildas4857
      @sthildas4857 Před 3 lety +3

      The notion of producing that structural chicken wire layer has yet to be explained.
      We know Graphene as a product entity has great potential, adding it as a ratio does not in itself improve strength..or function.

    • @jev2867
      @jev2867 Před 3 lety +2

      Graphene is being explored in the bike industry for thinner thus lighter frames. But, they have difficulty of forming the material in whatever process they have available. I can imagine graphene can only be added for coating a surface in the smallest amount that it has no advantage over a ceramic.

  • @billhale3293
    @billhale3293 Před 3 lety

    great video. New to you guys. Found you in the how to start a detailing business video. Also a great one. Keep doing what your doing.

  • @shaynewilliams727
    @shaynewilliams727 Před 2 lety +1

    The BEST video yet... Keep up the great work... Thanks for the honest review!

  • @dineshd1793
    @dineshd1793 Před 3 lety +3

    Appreciate the effort and scientific content that went into the video. I wish more manufacturers offered actual chemistry and testing data rather than buzz words

  • @anthonyalbury5390
    @anthonyalbury5390 Před 3 lety +3

    Very thorough and informative. You have a new subscriber here

  • @kylechow6072
    @kylechow6072 Před 3 lety +1

    I've been looking at Dr. Beasley products and this sealed the deal. Well done Jason, this is the best video about graphene coatings out.

  • @thehdlookstudio
    @thehdlookstudio Před 3 lety +2

    Jason, thanks so much for this brother. This kind of information is gold, and this video needs to make it's way throughout all of the consumer/prosumer groups.

  • @detailpeoria
    @detailpeoria Před 3 lety +58

    Absolutely love it, thank you for taking the time to put together such a comprehensive review! I learned a ton and I think you had the right guys for the discussion.
    The graphene can be stronger than steel and kevlar and still not be bulletproof. A single atom layer of steel or kevlar is not bulletproof either. You need a good thickness of those materials that are millions and millions of atoms thick.

    • @ctuna2011
      @ctuna2011 Před rokem +2

      Everything about graphene is dependent on you having it in one big sheet . Not a little pieces.

  • @trevormangus7832
    @trevormangus7832 Před 3 lety +6

    I like that the wait time or cure time for gradine is much quicker. I don’t have time to wait for a week for a product to cure before it gets wet

  • @nomis9052
    @nomis9052 Před 3 lety +1

    Congratulations for being at a point in your business where vendors need to call you when they find out your testing there products.

  • @shadowwalker255
    @shadowwalker255 Před 3 lety +2

    Super impressed with the detailed analysis! Great video.

  • @wyaldkingdom
    @wyaldkingdom Před 3 lety +35

    I have come to the conclusion that I should apply blue tape to my vehicle in order to protect it. Lol Awesome video, you really do have an analytical mindset when it comes to evaluating products and I appreciate the time you took to talk to experts from the world of coatings.

  • @gobiexploring
    @gobiexploring Před 3 lety +21

    "I got out of the coating industry drama but I decided to create a new coating" LOL okay guy.

  • @jwayneair
    @jwayneair Před 2 lety +2

    THIS kinda content is what my brain NEEDS, regardless of subject matter. I want to get the deep dive to know why and how a product works.

  • @frederickfitzwilliam5909

    I love the detailed information in this video. Great questions! This channel is more than just washing cars 💪

  • @canwefixitdiy3337
    @canwefixitdiy3337 Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks for doing this, I just recently have been looking into getting something like this done to my vehicles since we plan to keep both of them for a long time to come. I was also considering on ttempting to apply this myself but my detailing skills are no where on point and I lack the patience and time to do it properly. So from a consumer perspective your video gave me plenty of information to decide to get a professional to do the application in order to ensure the prep-work is handled properly. Also what would make me consider spending more on a product that currently does not show that extra cost is worth it. And even though I'm not a detailer by any means but if I was, what would this extra cost of materials which will funnel down to my customers really provide? I take it down to a simple process that was explained to me when I was shopping for my wife's engagement ring and I was getting caught up in all the meticulous details of diamonds. What do people look at first? Answer: The size. In the cast of these coatings, what are people looking at first? Answer: How long they last for my cost. All the other items fall into place when that initial aspect is taken care of first. Thanks again for the video.

  • @barrybij8079
    @barrybij8079 Před 3 lety +3

    Amazing how chemical resistant they both are,,,Makes me feel good that if I have a little overspray they won't peel right off. Ethos makes really good products at least from my experience ... It would beinteresting to see Gtechcniq compared to a 50 bottle off of amazon.... Cost vs benefit etc..great info..thankyou for the time spent putting this together

    • @ctsvmapper
      @ctsvmapper Před 3 lety

      Amazing? They are the same chemcial product one just happens to have graphine included so you buy their product and are charged 30 more for it. Grpahine is snake oil talk. Its impossible to distribute speicifc molecular requirements for the benefits of graphine to be utilized. Whats next aerogel coating?

  • @One_Guy
    @One_Guy Před 3 lety

    Great Video.. Lots of details here glad you took the time to make this!

  • @jorishnathanael1812
    @jorishnathanael1812 Před 3 lety

    Been waiting for these kind of review, thanks mate

  • @KevinD-WRX
    @KevinD-WRX Před 3 lety +142

    TL DR: "Graphene coatings" are not graphene coatings. They're ceramic coatings with graphene/graphite additive.

    • @rhodesianwojak2095
      @rhodesianwojak2095 Před 3 lety +1

      So what's the difference?

    • @KevinD-WRX
      @KevinD-WRX Před 3 lety +8

      @@rhodesianwojak2095 watch the video.

    • @jamesmeyers8384
      @jamesmeyers8384 Před 3 lety +28

      Rhodesian Wojak nothing. It’s a marketing gimmick

    • @arapaimagold8088
      @arapaimagold8088 Před 3 lety +7

      They're using the same carrier, only MSDS will be able to tell if there's any silicon dioxide or polysiloxane in it.

    • @sooocheesy
      @sooocheesy Před 3 lety +39

      Hate to break it to you, but ceramic coatings aren't ceramic coatings. They're coatings with ceramic additive.

  • @tdfpublic886
    @tdfpublic886 Před 3 lety +4

    Thanks for the video. It very clearly demonstrated that overall there is little difference between graphene and ceramic coatings. And the little difference there is, seems to be in favor of ceramic. But the most important metric is the price to performance ratio. And Gtehcniq Crystal Serum Light beat out Ethos Graphene with ease.

  • @themfu
    @themfu Před 3 lety +2

    Wow that was a thorough set of tests and interviews. So much effort yet so easy to watch.

  • @MS-vl3im
    @MS-vl3im Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you for your video! Very informative and really helped me to decide the coating on my new car.

  • @cpfb68
    @cpfb68 Před 2 lety +5

    I know this is a 1.5+-year-old video and many things have changed in that time (or has it?) Can you possibly do an update on Graphene coatings today in 2022? THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO! Great information! Subscribed and Notified for all new ones!

  • @fishingmedic1
    @fishingmedic1 Před 3 lety +13

    I put the ethos graphene matrix on about three months ago on my tundra. It was the first coating I ever applied. What I can say about it is amazing. It was easy to apply, great gloss and slickness but again this is my first coating. Great video though love to see honest educated videos! Keep it up Jason

  • @AngelGonzalez-ni1pe
    @AngelGonzalez-ni1pe Před 3 lety

    Jason thanks very very much for your time ... learning more

  • @michaelalberson126
    @michaelalberson126 Před rokem

    Absolutely awesome presentation of the two products and this helps me to make a decision on which one to get. THANK YOU.

  • @henryfreeman6113
    @henryfreeman6113 Před 3 lety +8

    I’ve been waiting for this!!! Ty Jason!

  • @middlegaautomotivedetailin1350

    Ethos seems kinda worried. Everything will be tested it's just a given. Owner doesn't want drama?? Well it's the detail world it's very competitive. Jason you are badass!!

    • @BT-fn6eh
      @BT-fn6eh Před 3 lety +7

      The Ethos owner is a drama catalyst

  • @frelmar
    @frelmar Před 2 lety

    I've been detailing just short of 12 years. Been using graphene the last couple years and absolutely love it thus far.

  • @petef717
    @petef717 Před 3 lety +2

    What a great informative video. Great content, thanks for doing this 👍

  • @ianhawkins4132
    @ianhawkins4132 Před 3 lety +37

    Jason, a message from a real coatings chemist with a PhD: Hydrofluoric Acid of any strength is potentially lethal if splashed on your skin. I would not do what you did unless I was wearing a specialist chemical protection suit. Bare arms and exam gloves are a trip to your local chemical burns unit. Always have calcium gluconate cream to hand if you must use HF.

    • @deepinmythots752
      @deepinmythots752 Před rokem

      For real… That’s what street bombers use to etch tags on windows cause it just eats away at the glass leaving a permanent cloudy surface behind. But it’s well known that it’s VERY dangerous to deal with…if you accidentally spill some on your hand or arm it’s gonna melt away the flesh instantly. It’s literally the acid you think of when you see monster movies where they dissolve bodies in barrels of acid lol

    • @rhengst22
      @rhengst22 Před rokem +2

      Hydroflouric acid does NOT burn skin silly. It is odorless and looks like water and goes through the skin and starts eating the calcium in your bones. You are thinking of hydrochloric acid maybe.

  • @nathansherman1366
    @nathansherman1366 Před 3 lety +3

    So, I take it a ceramic coating is still the way to go. Just real ,honest , straight forward info. Great video!

  • @verdantacres4460
    @verdantacres4460 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome video great to hear from both Ethos and Dr Beasley.

  • @richardpowell723
    @richardpowell723 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks Jason. A perfect insight and a well made production.

  • @bbdetailing9123
    @bbdetailing9123 Před 3 lety +6

    Thank you for this VERY thorough review, research, and testing. GREAT stuff. And I agree, it's best to test products ourselves. I try and do so myself, as my environment (Southern California) is much different than yours, or others out there testing products. Thanks Jason

    • @MikeGDetailing
      @MikeGDetailing Před 3 lety

      And here I am still waiting for my ethos test bottle 😂. Sorry I couldn’t resist. Seeing Jim come in was cool.

    • @bbdetailing9123
      @bbdetailing9123 Před 3 lety

      @@MikeGDetailing haha. Don't wait. I got some other coatings we can try out.

  • @Deriggs007
    @Deriggs007 Před 3 lety +5

    Thanks Jason for taking the time to conduct this unbiased review. I'll tell you what, the best thing about the video is the new Rupes line ;). I love CSL and can't wait to give Ethos's Grapehne matrix a spin. One thing not mentioned often is that Ceramic coatings aren't going to get much better and that Graphene coatings (however they are made) are arguably nearly as good as the Ceramic that have been tested/proven with R & D over the years. Graphene is still in its infancy and overtime, I believe that it'll be better than Ceramic coatings, but it's not there yet.

    • @ChicagoAutoPros
      @ChicagoAutoPros  Před 3 lety

      Dylan Riggs I agree 100%

    • @Chris-dv7ie
      @Chris-dv7ie Před rokem

      @@ChicagoAutoPros what would you recommend for a matte black paint?

  • @AndreasSchwarzinger
    @AndreasSchwarzinger Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much for this video! It is so necessary, especially what Pan the Organizer put out in his review about 303‘s graphene product, to educate consumers about what graphene is, where it comes from, how it is (and isn‘t) incorporated into derailing products and what it can and can‘t do. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

  • @pedenmk
    @pedenmk Před 3 lety

    Thanks for taking the time to demonstrate the differences between the two products.......

  • @mell3109
    @mell3109 Před 3 lety +13

    Love the phone call, not kiss ass at all, straight to the point, top marks.

  • @davidnguyen4888
    @davidnguyen4888 Před 3 lety +5

    Great video, I am doing a test on my personal vehicle with SPS graphene vs Cquartz vs CSL. It is a bit unfair test since its pro vs consumer but its what I had access to at the time. Enjoyed the inclusion of Ethos and Dr. Beasley, I like seeing both sides of the story but in the end... The results are what we are after.

    • @razz2o46
      @razz2o46 Před 3 lety +2

      Let me know what you come up with! I am a SPS installer and Love it!

    • @skmg2888
      @skmg2888 Před 3 lety

      What was the winner? CSL?

    • @davidnguyen4888
      @davidnguyen4888 Před 3 lety +1

      @@skmg2888 CSL by itself has failed already. july is 1 year mark. cquk 3.0. sps. csl+exo cquk+gliss are all still beading

  • @tanduay64
    @tanduay64 Před 3 lety

    Thanks so much for shedding some light on this....great video.

  • @haidenmorgan
    @haidenmorgan Před rokem

    Awesome content! Keep these long in depth boys coming and keep I interviewing supplier experts!

  • @joeysultan3621
    @joeysultan3621 Před 2 lety +7

    You can't accurately measure the surface temperature of the hood with a infrared thermometer without knowing the emissivity of the coating. The one used in the video isn't adjustable either. Best to use a thermocouple fastened to the bottom of the hood below each coating. It's unlikely that there'd be a measurable difference however given that they're both on the same metallic substrate. The middle of the hood itself would transmit heat between the hotter side and the cooler side. I better test would be to use to separate hoods (1 per treatment).

  • @trentsdetails3589
    @trentsdetails3589 Před 3 lety +6

    CSL + EXO is where it's at. I think of CSL great for durability with EXO boosting the water behavior.

  • @premiumxstudio
    @premiumxstudio Před 3 lety +1

    Great work! Only time will tell... maintenance will also be a factor to take in to consideration

  • @antonioartis6778
    @antonioartis6778 Před rokem +1

    One of my new favorite Detailing videos. Full of knowledge and passion. I love science too! Thanks so much! From Dream Auto Detailing and Services LLC in Columbia md

  • @andrenj1970
    @andrenj1970 Před 3 lety +15

    Would be nice to see Adam’s graphene coating tested. I used it on my cars recently and love it but the time will show more. Also I used avalonking ceramic coating on my tv, monitors etc, great results. Now I will compare these two side by side on my spare car door.

    • @MoistShot
      @MoistShot Před 3 lety +1

      I tried Crystal Serum Light and Avalonking Armor Shield both, and the durability from Armor Shield seems better to me. The car with Crystal Serum Light on it is starting to slowly fade, but not the Armor Shield IX car. Let me know your results

    • @andrenj1970
      @andrenj1970 Před 3 lety

      Avalonking has a great reputation and so far my coated tv, monitors and few other items look amazing after 2 months so far. I will have to test it on car paint next to Adam’s graphene coating as I mentioned before, long term.

    • @virtusgtmt
      @virtusgtmt Před 10 měsíci +1

      been 2 years now and whats ur opinion on graphene coating long term?

    • @andrenj1970
      @andrenj1970 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@virtusgtmt The graphene coating seems stronger on our half license plate cover compared to the other half with ceramic coating. Its a real life test, also on one of my cars being outside all year round: There are water spots still, little hard to remove. Overall I’m happier than waxing the cars. Paint still needs protection and care no matter what coating we use, no magic bullet;)

  • @samcas707
    @samcas707 Před 3 lety +8

    the real mvp is that painters tape

  • @TheJumpRopeAddict
    @TheJumpRopeAddict Před 2 lety

    A little late to the punch watching this video but as someone who is just a detailing enthusiast who meticulously keeps my vehicles clean and protected I am always looking for a better product and I love trying new and different detailing tools and products. I’ve seen the graphemes hype over the past year or so but I haven’t tried any since I have had great success and results with ceramic coating and sprays and now I’m finally running low on everything I bought so I’m looking for new ones to try which led me to your video and it was a great watch and I learned so much that I didn’t from all the other detailing channels. Just liked and subscribed and I’m watching all your videos now!

  • @CJBarbour
    @CJBarbour Před 3 lety +2

    Nice video, a very interesting discussion. I would love to know which companies offer a pro grade product direct to the enthusiast. As you said with so many companies offering a version of ceramic and or graphene coating it’s hard to decide which one is best in the end. And in terms of variations which companies offer a full strength product, not a lesser product then what they offer to detailer shops.

  • @Salvaba
    @Salvaba Před 3 lety +8

    I’m a student taking biomedicine and I love this. I would love to chat with tim about the chemistry of this. If Jim sees this, can he answer some of my questions on the chemistry of this?
    So with a polysilizane for traditional theromosetting, the aging process after it starts to adhere is due to ammonia reacting, creating R3si-NH2 (R being something that IDK because I’m not too sure on what can form the best adhesion). Is that what is used in ceramics as well? Because I would assume it would require ammonia in it which isn’t that present the smell of some ceramics. Is inorganic silizane ( H2Si-NH) a useful compound? I hypothesize this is not a strong enough compound because upon contact with water, the water will try to stick to the h2SI due to cohesion (the oxygen atom being attracted to the negatively charged SI, but also the H).
    I’d really like to speak to Jim and get to know different properties of chemical compounds with different structures, differing functional groups and the effects in a compound in the real world. For now I’m just learning the basics, but I sure would love to learn about it. I think it’s really cool

    • @absolutewisdom77
      @absolutewisdom77 Před 2 lety +1

      Damn bro you are invested lol
      Impressive nonetheless.

  • @alexjensen990
    @alexjensen990 Před 3 lety +5

    As a car guy I want to thank you for the videos that you make. My detail game, which didn't exist until I started watching your channel and Pan the Organizer, will never be the same. As a chemist, I have a couple issues with your episode. I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned these yet (forgive me, but I didn't read all 250 comments); however, to measure the temperature resistance of the coating you would need to measure the temperature from the bottom of the hood. Preliminarily, I would suggest that the higher temperature of the graphene side is actually encouraging. It's tells you that there is more energy being repelled on the graphene side than on the ceramic side. This should occur whether the uninterrupted layer is intact or not because the conductive properties are inherit to the particle (as far as I've read anyway) if connected to another particle or not. In other words, it should offer the heat displacement as long as the suspended particles are present, random or latticed. Secondly, when you were using chemicals at the end you used Hydrochloric Acid, not Hydrofluoric Acid... Or you would be dead... For reference look up the SDS on Hydrofluoric Acid. It's really nasty stuff. I helped stabilize a coworker who had concentrated HF splashed on her neck. I'll spare you the details, but even now I can remember the scene as if it just happened. So, HCl, not HF. Otherwise, keep up the good work!

    • @arapaimagold8088
      @arapaimagold8088 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, HF is really nasty. And I still can't find any chemical resistant sprayer able to withstand it.

    • @alexjensen990
      @alexjensen990 Před 3 lety

      @@arapaimagold8088 honestly, you're better off not using it unless absolutely need to. What are you using HF for?

    • @alexjensen990
      @alexjensen990 Před 3 lety

      @@arapaimagold8088 I'm sure there's an alternative... That is unless you're doing compliance radiochemistry like my coworker was. 😉

    • @arapaimagold8088
      @arapaimagold8088 Před 3 lety

      Mostly for cleaning mineral crust around door jamb and emblems. The minerals in my country is nasty. There's no single deposit remover made for car detailing able to cut through it. And I already tried most of it, from Optimum HDR to Modesta M5 Flame. Anyone who use it should be a higly trained professional, and remember not even nitrile gloves able to withstand it.

    • @alexjensen990
      @alexjensen990 Před 3 lety

      @@arapaimagold8088 let me think about it a little and reply once I come up with an idea. Using HF for car detailing seems... Well... Just not worth it. That being said, there has to be a solution (pun intended 😁) to this problem. One that doesn't require you to handle an acid that eats the calcium from your bones when soaked in through your skin. Okay, so what minerals and metals are giving you problems. The more exact you are the better. Also, how do you keep it from eating the aluminum and/or whatever other metal it's being sprayed on? How are you neutralizing it?

  • @zaydabbas1609
    @zaydabbas1609 Před 2 lety

    Not a regular on your videos at all (yet!), but damn this level of effort and detail is sick! You basically made a documentary and I actually learned something!

  • @__--JY-Moe--__
    @__--JY-Moe--__ Před 3 lety

    It's great 2 see this man running it down!! rock-on bruh....🍒

  • @dougrobinson8602
    @dougrobinson8602 Před 3 lety +7

    That was an interesting comparison. My takeaway is that both seem to be good options. I'd need a couple years of actual use and exposure to the harsh conditions we endure here in northern Illinois to decide which is better. Maybe time will tell. When ceramic coatings first came out, the claims were overblown in my opinion. Ceramics are great, and I've had good luck with the one I chose, but you can't just apply a ceramic and expect it to hold up. Booster products help maintain water beading or sheeting properties. After two years of road salt, semi frequent washing, various bird bombs, and brake dust, it's time for a paint correction and re-coating. While Jason may have been bummed that both coatings polished off quite easily in the bonus footage, I'd consider that a plus. I'd hate to have to be too aggressive with compounds just to remove a previous coating. Gentlest test spot that produces the desired result wins.

  • @neildorrity9507
    @neildorrity9507 Před 3 lety +3

    Good video Jason, but i really do think you need to try Artdeshine Graphene Coating, very viscous and a very good coating indeed

    • @jjbhwajabuseva1909
      @jjbhwajabuseva1909 Před 3 lety

      I'm all Graphene Coating in the United States currently is coming from the same manufacturer and has been relabeled

  • @connermurray1633
    @connermurray1633 Před 2 lety

    I love CZcams, you can learn so much for free. Thanks for video I had not heard of graphene coating until recently. Always looking to sharpen my skills, thanks for sharing!

  • @parkecorepersonaltrainingp2601

    Excellent information thank you just found your channel and love it 😍

  • @moschef9089
    @moschef9089 Před 3 lety +17

    He said that the Kevlar reference wasn't put there to mislead. But that's precisely the reason it was used, to plant that seed.

  • @jamesfink680
    @jamesfink680 Před 3 lety +3

    I wanted to see him put some Blue Dawn dish detergent on that hood for a durability test.

  • @bshaw458
    @bshaw458 Před 3 lety

    Fantastic video! Been wondering about these same things!

  • @hermittanimoto9325
    @hermittanimoto9325 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video Jason, wow, I was curious about this since other youtube detailers have tried some from other brands. I'll stick to my carpro lite and carpro skin for the time being. Until they get it to the point where pricing or performance is differentiable. All the best!

    • @MrMarko302
      @MrMarko302 Před 3 lety

      Great video Jason, wow, I was curious about this since other youtube detailers have tried some from other brands. I'll stick to my carpro lite and carpro skin for the time being. Until they get it to the point where pricing or performance is differentiable. All the best!

  • @justincontreras4308
    @justincontreras4308 Před 3 lety +5

    How about swirl prevention when improper washing and such.

    • @AndysAutoCarePlus
      @AndysAutoCarePlus Před 3 lety

      This is the big question I have as well hopefully can get some input.

  • @johnwatson8192
    @johnwatson8192 Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks for a great video, I particularly liked Jim from Dr Beazley, he was honest, coherent and owned up to his own limitations; yes he could have been clearer on the strength of graphene vs steel but why exactly do you need something that is stronger than steel, wear resistance, corrosion resistance or something else? I got very nervous when you started with the Hydrochloric acid, bare arms and shorts for heavens sake! Spraying all sorts of chemicals with no mask on surely can't be the best thing for your health.

  • @bobB24-_..
    @bobB24-_.. Před 3 lety +1

    That was a great video 😁... Thanks for all the info.. well done.. about the longest video I've watched on youtube...

  • @sudahliabyrd9380
    @sudahliabyrd9380 Před 2 lety

    U da man !! Thanks for your dedication. Fascinating stuff