Vildhjarta Broke Me... - "måsstaden" and "måsstaden under vatten" Musical Analysis
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Asking here too in case you guys don't seen my comment on Facebook. Does the duck have a name? I've been calling him Geoffrey just because that name seems to fit him
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@@coreyclip1i think its called «Den hellige anden» which means «The holy duck»
I can't tell if you're trolling or not, but I'm Swedish and it means the holy spirit. @@namnam5625
Thanks a lot for your time and effort :)
It was really cool hearing riffs and cleans played on piano as well!
Duuuude thanks for watching and sharing!! Does Geoffrey the duck have an actual name? 😂
@@coreyclip1 den helige anden😁
Hey Calle! Just wanted to say thank you for what you guys do! 😊
The legend himself!!! 🙌🏻
@@callethomer I wanna cover Eternal Golden Monk, is there any way I could buy the stems so I can learn the parts? I can't read music, but my ear is pretty good.
When UnderVatten first came out I was all into HLB's Valde, and also was going through a break up. Gotta admit - since probably 2014-15 I was no more pleased by how old Vildhjarta sounds. And all things considered I listened to UnderVatten in kinda shuffle mode, and not even the whole thing. What a blasphemy. But 3-4 months later, when my life was all norm and balanced again, I've listened it two times in a row in intrumental, and GOD was I hooked. Since then I listen to this wonderful piece of art at least once per week, but more likely 3-4 times per week. And the thing is - it's still fresh! Idk how they did it, but the guys came out with the perfect fit for my music taste. I just can't listen to anything else now, dafaq
Its insane. They've perfected music
It’s nice finding people that appreciate MUV as much as me. I’ve listened to it at least once a week since release.
It’s quite literally ruined other music for me because it’s just so god damn phenomenal.
I came here bc of the vildhjarta story and I dont regret it , this is soooo coool
Thanks for checking out my video!! I'm so grateful to them for sharing it
@@coreyclip1 you should do this type of video with thousands of evils or blackwaterpark from opeth thaaats an awesome albuumm and u should do it too with hlb
@@coreyclip1I think that all the key changes that u see or the chords in half step or one step move are just the pitch shift that they use , u can see it clearly in the detta drömmars sköte en slöja till ormars näste calle playtrough
As someone who only just listened to måsstaden this week I feel this on a spiritual level
Please keep sharing your love for music, this is top tier content.
I have no plans to stop!
This is the album that keeps giving; the more you listen to it the more things you pick up and notice. This is art, this album is like the Lord of the Rings trilogy where I don't want it to end. Also the artwork for every song is custom made. Måsstaden Under Vatten is precious to me and one of my favorite things in existence
The greatest album and the greatest movie trilogy
I relate deeply to the kind of enjoyment you get from these albums lol. They’re phenomenal records too, particularly love the first half of Måsstaden Shadow, Dagger, Eternal Golden Monk is such an unreal album opener, just full throttle out the fucking gate.
I added some timestamps for the different tracks :) thank you for this beast! I enjoyed it all!
~ MÅSSTADEN ~
5:00 - shadow
- 7:50 ”Vocal cadence ( with Katy Perry example), language and first vs second album”
16:40 - dagger
- 17:45 ”Motifs (leitmotifs) + ”metal is classical music with downtrend guitars and distortion””
25:26 - eternal golden monk
- 28:39 ””I know your wounds still burn” - possibly referenced in [track + timestamp] (I missed it lol)”
30:11 - benblåst
33:25 - östpeppar
35:21 - traces
42:40 - phobon nika
- 43:41 (the one pixel gap gets fixed!!)
47:09 - måsstadens nationalsång
49:07 - when no one walks with vou
52:36 - all these feelings
- 1:01:28 ”Thoughts on western perception of tunings etc”
1:04:18 - noja
1:08:24 - deceit
1:14:06 - the lone deranger
1:22:20 transition between the two albums + album art for måsstaden under vatten. btw ”den helige anden” (the holy duck/spirit) is who the duck is. The meaning of the word 'anden' changes depending on which vowel you stress with a pitch accent when spoken out loud: 1st pitch accent gives you: *a*nden = the duck; 2nd pitch accent: *a*nd*e*n = the spirit. Search for "swedish pitch accent" for a nice vid explaining it better :)
~ MÅSSTADEN UNDER VATTEN ~
1:25:25 - lavender haze
1:35:18 - när de du älskar kommer tillbaka från de döda
- 1:37:35 (a perfect description of Swedish)
1:41:04 - kaos2
- use of major keys + introduction of ”ambient motifs”
1:45:25 - toxin
- 1:49:46 ”Rhythm switchup during the last part”
1:51:24 - brännmärkt
1:59:09 - den helige anden (under vatten)
2:06:00 - passage noir
2:11:21 - måsstadens nationalsång (under vatten)
- 2:13:48 ”lavender haze motif (in a sea of måsstaden references)”
- 2:15:12 ”kaos2 ending ambient motif”
2:17:39 - heartsmear
- Couldn’t resist saying that it’s probably wolves you hear during the outro, also the 16ths on the hi-hat are definitely done with the feet, ’chicking’ the top and bottom together with the pedal.
2:21:03 - vagabond
- 2:21:15 ”PROTIP: Make sure the synth and the vocals are in the SAME KEY!”
2:28:56 - mitt trötta hjärta
2:32:57 - detta drömmars sköte en slöja till ormars näste
2:36:16 - phantom assassin
2:39:15 - sunset sunrise
2:45:02 - sunset sunrise sunset sunrise
2:52:34 - penny royal poison
2:55:50 - paaradiso
3:06:25 - Wrap up and goodbyes
If anybody remembers where the "I know your wounds still burn" reference appears during the second album listen, please add it in the comments :)
@@Si-Al-Ti thank you for this!
Thank you for this, sir. I love talking about music with folks. Hearing such a trained ear and experienced musician break this down is so satisfying.
Thanks for watching!
you perfectly voiced all my thoughts about these two albums! thank you for such a detailed analysis!
Thank you for watching!!
It's so interesting seeing appreciation for their work on an analytical level! I personally just enjoy the work emotionally, so hearing how this all works is fascinating. UV has been such an important album for me - I've been in my mid 30's and music kinda lost its magic on me. I was sure nothing would ever reach me emotionally like all the discoveries in my teenage years. This album tore a lot of things open I thought I'd lost, and I'll forever cherish it for that. Even honored it as my first tattoo to keep reminding myself that no passion is ever truly lost. There's just something about these 1-2octave pitch little melodies between the chugging and the ambient that elevates their music from pure djent to something that reaches deeper for me.
On a side-note, try not to get the beard concerns too much into your head. A lot of men struggle with uneven growth, but noone ever noticed that as much as they do :D.
Dude this is so good. Expected to watch this for about two minutes, been watching for two hours at this point. I thought I knew these two albums in and out, but you made me notice a bunch of details I didn´t pay any attention to before. Just so much happening constantly which I love most about this band.
I recommend trying to translate the Under vatten lyrics too because in my opinion that album is lyrically superior to the first (Swedish isn’t my first language either). PS. Ensam i detta mörker = Alone in this darkness.
Google Bard (their ai tool) is great at translations.
Man I’m really glad that you finally listened this masterpiece. Once I was on their show, they gods. I wish to forget, so I can listen this music again from the first note
I'm so glad you kept that sneeze in hahahaha. I'm a quarter of the way through this but it's so cool to see someone else who appreciates this album so much. It's so rare to meet Vildhjarta fans, let alone people who appreciate it on such an in-depth musical level.Thanks man!
Thanks for watching!
It's so nice to stumble upon someone else geeking and fawning over this band's music this much too, cheers for putting in the time and for the additional music theory insights!
Love hearing your passion for these albums, I feel the same.
For me the album that came really close to the broken-speechless-overwhelmed kinda experience you describe, is Catch 33 by Meshuggah. First hearing Shed on a metal compilation disc, which send me in a whirlpool of discovering and re-discovering Meshuggah's music. Catch 33 has the same kind of structure, needing to listen to the whole album in one sitting and feeling an existential emptiness as the heaviness of Sum makes place for ambient guitars.
The same happened to me with MUV, which made me question my favorite band (which is important to me) for a year and resulted in Vildhjarta as the winner :)
By the way watching this video a lot of times. Just love how you passionately talk about all cool musical decisions and references 😁
hey just finished the reaction, and under vatten is such a chaotic masterpiece that i struggled to get really into it at first (i still recognised how good it is but it was like kinda too much for my brain at once lol) but your analysis really made me understand and get into this album more and really admitting how it's one of the best metal albums ever done, and your little reactions at some point were also kinda cute and funny and your long speech at the end was really interesting to listen. Great video great analysis, you just gained a new subscriber (now im gonna watch your + kristallfagel + reaction)
Welcome!
This is great. Exactly how I feel about the little details. We would be best friends in real life.
Lol great minds think alike
Can't wait to check this out in its entirety, these albums mean a lot to me as well!
Back to watch this video again because its that good of an analysis, and I still can't get over Masstaden Under Vatten. It's been over two years since I got into them with Masstaden and nothing else bends me down over a guard rail and rails me when my guard is down like how MUV does
It's truly something special
Thank you for this. I discovered Vildhjarta a month ago and it's been life changing. Nothing will compare.
I feel like you and I enjoy Vildhjarta for the exact same reasons. Amazing video. I'll show this to anyone if they ask why they like this band.
Thanks for watching!!
Great work. A pleasure to see someone who appreciates them as I do and actually knows a lot of stuff about their music. I know them from 2014+-, played a decent chunk of their songs and riffs on guitar. Basically they're my main motivation to play guitar, lol
This is absolutely some of the stuff ive been wanting without knowing it. S that you can kinda compare to Key Of Geebz music breakdown/analysis. and Vildhjarta is one of my favorite bands, love this a ton (+ ups for long form content, love that stuff too)
I totally agree with the vocal cadence thing between albums and languages. I think one thing that balances it out though is the dual vocal style of Masstaden. Undervatten is a bit more monotone.
30:30 that instrument is probably a guitar with a gated clean tone, and the guitarist is moving their picking between the bridge and neck to make it sharper, at least that's how I play it and it sounds good
the coolest part of måsstaden under vatten is the måsstadens nationalsång remix riff, yeah it has a lot of callbacks to måsstaden, but the riff is built from the end riff in all these feelings
Im 1:14:29 into this vid and geez thank you for this :) hearing you break down these albums and then the chord progressions on the piano is just magic. Another album you should totally check out is Reign of Silence by Indistinct, they are about to release a new album, but Reign of Silence has been in the top of my lists with Vilds albums and No Oaths album liminal, theres parts in Reign of Silence though that are just so beautiful like 4:05 into their song Burden, or 3:26 into Sulphur, and 6:25 into their song Cascade,
I'll add it to my reaction list, thanks for the suggestion!
Cool to see someone enjoy the album as much as a I do, and your theory knowledge is awesome too. Great video :)
Thanks for checking it out!!
guitars are in drop E, lower than that pitchshifted effect, so there can be some mistuning happening.
Masstaden under vatten is a very pretty album. I've never heard anything like it before and I can absolutely tell its influential to newer bands. Its like this generation of metal's "Angel Dust"
Great video, i always get reminded of a comment i saw on the album stream "damn Music 2 just dropped" and the thread going on about how the sequel to music just dropped 😂😂
Love it
As soon as I heard you singing the guitar notes with perfect pitch, I knew this analysis was going to be *good*.
Having perfect pitch really helps with these kinds of videos. I love talking about cool musical stuff
Top music geek, high quality nerding, can recommend lol
Just pure love from me for sharing a common passion for I guess what is stull rather obscure and aquired tastes in music
I 100% relate to what you said at the end - I also went through a similar period of listening to under vatten on repeat for months, and have also since started exploring other genres. Keep it real
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Congrats on the story feature!
Thanks! It made my day. Was not expecting that at all
@@coreyclip1I'm 40 minutes into the video and it feels like I'm watching myself nerd out over the albums, I'm just nodding along with everything you say hahaha
Great stuff! Keep it up
I’m glad there are others out there stoked about these guys! So happy they are back after that long winter. Really enjoyed your video.
Thanks for watching!
They have also changed my life
THALL
Thall for life
Some little facts about their cleans. Buster did a mix session for the single version of Den Helige Anden and he explains that they cleans on this album are old clean tracks coming from late 2000's, even before 2011 masstaden. Also says that almost all those cleans have different amount of pitch shifting and different amount of time stretch editing, therefore they sound different because of artifacts (or audio degradation) so that makes it "microtonal" or no on 440hz
That's so cool!
calle also said multiple times on instagram that they dont really intonate their guitars
that summary at the end of the video is exactly how i felt and im glad im not alone
These albums have by far been my to favorite albums I've ever listened to, unless Vildhjarta somehow release a better album I think they'll stay at #1-2 forever, I've listened to both of them almost 100 times and they never get boring or repetitive to me, they're genuine masterpieces.
Dude thank you for making this! Was really nice to hear someone else nerd out about these albums track by track. I'd love to see you analyze Meshuggah - Catch 33 and Loathe - ILIIAITE
I'll add them to my giant list of recommendations!
@@coreyclip1 2:39:30 cracked me up because every metalcore band has said that in their mom's garage 😂
you broke yourself for our entertainment.
It was worth it
Subbed cuz of Vildhjarta’s story. Good stuff!!
Thanks for coming over! I'm so grateful to them for sharing my video
2:15:10 yes that motif actually appeared first in Thousands of Evils
i really needed to watch someone going crazy over this album as i go crazy over it too, great video!!!
Thanks for checking it out!
Just wanted to say as a swedish dude that you're reeeaaally close with the pronunciation of Å, Ä and Ö
Thanks! I know it's not perfect but I try to get as close as I can
@22.22 you're not making a fool of yourself at all, you're enjoying something that matters to you
2:13:07 always hits
The over lapping vocals on Måsstaden works for me because that album had two vocalists so it creates a nice back and forth with two styles
Amazing video! Would love to see you analyse "Thousand of Evils"
I've only heard that one a handful of times so I'd have to get more familiar with it before I analyze it. I'll add it to my list!
From someone who has been a fan of Vildhjarta since Mastadden first came out, I freakin LOVE THIS. 😈🤘🏻
#thall
From a relatively new fan, THIS SHIT GOES HARD
Great video! They are absolutely the two best albums ever made
2:42:20 YES, yes indeed! Sunset Sunrise ALWAYS gave me so much emotions!
Just pure perfection.
Amazing video man
Thank you!
Please consider checking out Orgone's new album Pleroma. Only released on Bandcamp right now. It's already my AOTY. A lot different then Vildjharta but also a musical masterpiece. Would love to hear your thoughts.
Been jamming these guys since the iPod days haha. Love it! 🤘thall
I would kill for an Omnislash Forte version
@@coreyclip1absolutely!
Fantastic. Regarding that "singing it like you say it" deal, absolutely agree. It happened to me with Uneven Structure after Februus. Man, I love Uneven's instrumentals. But Matheu just does not get English in a good way. He does that thing so much I just had to stop listening to them. Don't know if you have ever tried them, "8" is a masterpiece, but the rest is just too uncanny to hear only because of the lyrical-vocal part.
Glad I'm not the only one who gets bothered by that. I can overlook it when everything else about the album is amazing though. I haven't heard anything from Uneven Structure, I'll have to check them out
Have you heard Archspire? Wondering cuz to me their riffs are like classical music in 400bpm (a lot of intervals and chord progressions remind me of classical music)
oh, and of course t h a l l - almost forgot to write it today
I've heard bleed the future and I love it. It is very classical in the arpeggios and stuff just cranked up to warp speed
try the previous album - stuff like A Dark Horizontal or Mimic Well is insanely good @@coreyclip1
2:15:30 I think it's a pretty simple pluck sound with a ping pong delay on it (ping pong delay is an echo that alternates between the right and left channels)
That makes sense. It sounds so alien though!
@@coreyclip1It does! Finally finished the video, sorry for the comment spam, but that outro speech was really beautiful and inspiring. I've also been trying to branch out into other genres and I think I'll put even more effort in now. I wish you a good day, looking forward to your upcoming analyses :)
man how i love vildhjarta it is so cathartic idk. Please please take a look at SEVEN and his album Dark scientific or Interdimensional act I & II. It is not as intricate and playful but it is more athmospheric. I'd love a reaction, I think you can say a lot about it with your musical knowledge aswell :D
I'll add it to my Patreon poll!
i find it funny that you say that Masstaden is more enjoyable if you want to listen to singles than masstaden under vatten while i feel the complete opposite, masstaden has a really nice flow and masstaden under vatten has way to many parts and even entire songs i dont really like / or feel like theyre going against the flow of the album
im like 20mins into the video and am really impressed with the work you put in respect man !
Well, Max Martin was involved in that Katy Perry song, because of course he was, so maybe it's the bad Swedish influence manifest.
Possibly Swedish, allegedly sounding a bit melodic, is more allowing towards fudging the syllables. I don't know.
As a danish person this band has made be respect Sweden a bit more
I’m not sure if you’ve noticed but both of the new singles actually use a riff from den helige anden. So they are already tying the new thing they’re making into under vatten. I genuinely think den spanska kanslan is their best song to this day, so I have high hopes it will absolutely top under vatten.
Edit: Calle has since corrected me, and it isn’t the same riff, so I’ve just found something where there actually isn’t anything. Please disregard this.
We have not used old riffs on the new singles
@@callethomer Oh! My apologies then. Just that the riff from 1:20 at den helige anden - under vatten sounds VERY similar to the riff in the intro to + ylva + and the riff at 4:03 on + den spanska kanslan +. Not sure if it’s intentional or not, but the similarity is uncanny! Adore all of your music, sorry for the inconvenience if I have spotted something that doesn’t exist, I’ll go edit the original comment to correct it.
@@vernaltear No worries mate! :)
Can't say I hear the same as you Im afraid but maybe you find it similar because of the slides. I use a lot of slides when I write
@@callethomer so I’ve been now listening to the three riffs I mentioned over and over again, and it’s because of the very beginning of the riff, the tone shifts are very similar, and then on the part where you do some long slides in den helige anden, in + ylva + and + den spanska kanslan + you don’t use slides, but follow a similar structure in terms of the melody. They’re similar riffs, but not the same like you said.
I spend way too much time listening to music, it’s very hard learning and I’m relatively new and have only gotten my 8 string a few months ago. You guys are my biggest inspiration!
@@vernaltear thanks :)) glad you find the music inspiring
Finally someone giving the musical respect Vildhjarta deserve.
damn, I think you might be a genius, bro.
This video is the most beautiful thing that I discovered on you tube, thak you!
Thank YOU for checking it out!
They had 2 vocalists on the måsstaden album. so the overlapping or when it feels crammed, is just one vocalist going to the other.
"this is the greatest music ever written" Yes, I agree. Have agreed since 2011. from one vildhjarta lover to another - t h a l l
t h a l l
so so cool dude, I would say sometimes u speak a bit too much I found myself skipping a few seconds a few times when you were saying the same thing but keep doing this! we want your analysis on spanska too
37:32 - 37:33 what special thing did they do on this dissonant-sounding note/chord, i'm not very familiar with musical terminology or how it works, but this part is just my favourite out of the whole song
You mean that little split second? It plays a note that's a half step down from the tonic (the main chord in the key were in) which makes it sound spooky because of how close it is to the tonic when that note isn't usually in the key signature
1:41:01 I have the same issue when drinking alcohol and found there's actually a term for it:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_flush_reaction
I was under the impression for the longest time that I just had a really low tolerance for alcohol, but since this reaction is heavily determined by genetics (presence or absence of a specific enzyme) no matter how much or little I drink I have the exact same reaction every time.
I wanted to acknowledge this aside because if you are able to drink regularly despite having the reaction, it does increase risk for developing esophageal cancer compared to others who do not experience the reaction.
Very interesting. I've only really been drinking a few times a year
Your take on ÅÄÖ is not garbage, pretty much everything in Swedish is kind of forward in the mouth and we roll the Rs some more than others depending on accent.
Nice, good to know I'm close!
The only other album that matches the sorrow and (somehow) uplifting nature of Måsstaden Under Vatten is the OST for Silent Hill 2. If you've never listened to it before then I couldn't recommend it enough. Maybe do a reaction to it?
I'm actually playing through it right now in my free time and I'm loving it! Super atmospheric
I just love their albums
I want to learn Eternal Golden Monk so bad Dx I learn by ear but I consider myself fairly skilled. If you have any tips or are willing to help, let me know.
I'm completely guitar illiterate. I can play every other instrument but that's the one I never learned 😂
SO EXCITED
mmmm this makes using the digi tech down tune pedal make so much more sense in terms of this kinda of songwriting.....thall
You couldn't pick favorites but they have a song called All These Feelings :D :D :D
Normally I don't like this kind of music. I heard "M.U:V" a couple of weeks ago and it fucked my brain
Hey, thanks for being smart.
Awesome job! Only album I've listened to as much as masstaden is colors by BTBM
That's another album I've heard praised highly but never listened to
You really should, absolute masterpiece. MUV is my second favourite album of all time, second only to Parallax II by BTBAM. Colors is my no.2 by BTBAM@@coreyclip1
@@fpjesus2000 I'm going to do a double album reaction to both Colors albums at some point
Sick, you're gonna have a blast. Keep an ear out for those motifs ;)@@coreyclip1
@@fpjesus2000 will do!
Thall has ruined it for me. It’s thall I wanna listen to. Such a great band, indeed.
One minute in and you earned my sub
You really have to listen other insane concept dual-album with cool story in lyrics and one repeat leitmotif - Periphery: Juggernaut Alpha & Omega
Love those albums! Those are my favorite Periphery albums honestly
@@coreyclip1 OMG) I'm sure you're eyes gonna made waterfalls on Lune from P3 and Wax Wings from P5😭😍
This was awesome dude!
Amazing ❤❤ Best band !
If u haven’t listen to Karmanjakah
React to their EP Ancient skills
Best EP 2023
During masstaden nationalsang i hear traces and all these feelings too
Too many references for me to catch all of them!
@@coreyclip1 lol i gotcha i just want some validation in someone else hearing it too, had fun with this journey, great video man.
If you havent you really should listen under vatten with translated lyrics, moments like 2:09:20 become even better with lyrical context.
MUV is the greatest album of all time no doubt
For sure
@@coreyclip1 Vildhjarta changed my life too. Inspired me to start seriously writing and recording thall/djent/metal stuff
The first time I heard them I literally didn't think humans could make this shit
Future video on thousands of evils?
Maybe. I've only heard that album a handful of times so I'll have to get more familiar with it
amazing content
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😂😂 no way
I’ve watched this 4 times since I found yesterday
Can you do a video on HLB-Ashen I cant understand what I’m hearing in it aha
I really want to do Ashen but I don't fully understand it myself. I'll need to think critically about it. But I'll definitely do a video on it some time!
sport
only love
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Any plans to check out thousands of evils as well?
It's on my list! I've only listened to it a handful of times compared to the måsstaden albums so I'd have to get more familiar with it
@@coreyclip1 would love to see what differences you pick up on compared to the masstaden albums, i find it to be darker in tone. I listened to the shit out of that ep bc it was the, "newest" thing we got from vild for like 8 years before under vatten
@@SirDIVVI I'll definitely do it