Ten Hag, It Could Be Over...Complete Humiliation | Palace 4-0 Man Utd
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 5. 05. 2024
- INEOS will not forget that performance from Manchester United. My belief is as low as it has been under Erik ten Hag and the momentum is totally against him right now.
That was complete humiliation. Not sure what else to say.
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How this team is in the FA Cup final is absolutely mind boggling
moments fc
Don't worry Guardiola will make Pasta out of them that day
playing agenst Non-League teams
It is crazy. Last season Casemiro was my best player.
â@@helgijacobsen1497Liverpool is a none league team right?
As a united fan I'm not even angry anymore it's just depressing. Watching this team drains you.
I just feel numb, we lost and I don't even care anymore
couldnt say it better myself, I live in aus i used to love waking up late or getting up early to watch united. Now i just watch fan channels and replays bcs its just not worth it anymore. Same result same boring football.
Ya even if united score i feel nthg..
I donât even watch any more. I get angry and later my family gets disturbed coz of me đ
I didnât even watch the match. You are absolutely right itâs getting much.
The sad truth about our fanbase is that you just know if we had won tonight you'd have had a faction of them saying "see, it's because Bruno isn't playing, I've always said he was our biggest problem". We always look for scapegoats & act delusional.
Bruno is the best thing since slice bread đđ đ
Bruno is best thing that has happened to Manutd. I pray He leaves Manutd and Joins City or a better team.
The sad truth is the club is so rotten, the fan base and debates became extremely toxic as well. I donât even talk about United with my United fan friends anymore.
Facts
Look at our squad? Everyone can be a f*cking championship player. No quality.
Regardless of ETH, if the majority of our players stay for next season, itâs a complete waste of time. No clear out = no change
Exactly, we were in this position two seasons ago and the required clear out didnât happen, despite Ralf Rangnicks warnings. Now here we are again đ€ŠđŸââïž
@@JayRicci7891Mata Lingard Pogba Matic De Gea Cavani⊠all left on a free because their contract expired. This is the opposite of ruthlessness. We are just lazy and really bad at everything
@fromthestretfordend7110: If the noise from Man Utd sources, Ineos and the press is to be believed, then there's every chance to expect a massive clearout. I think there'll be a clearout. The issue is that, is it practical and wise to buy a whole squad in one transfer window!? Since, frankly, maybe only 4 or 5 players are Man Utd standard and are considered safe in the entire squad. Is it even doable with the current club finance situation? I guess some player sales will offset the cost of bringing in new faces, if done effectively. We're all aware of the club's poor reputation in recouping decent amounts for unwanted players though this may likely improve under Ineos. These are the big questions that have to be dealt with.
@@fromthestretfordend7110 often think back to when Jose fell out with Pogba, if the club had backed the manager and sold the player, maybe it couldâve sent a message to the rest of the squad. Instead we allowed poor attitudes to fester. Rotten from top to bottom. INEOS have a huge job ahead of them
True words
Casemiro, 5x Champions League winner got absolutely bullied today
Has all season
He hasnât got kross n modric to hold his hand đ€Ł
Today? He's washes he s been trash the whole season
Been bad all season đ€Ł
He has more CL trophies than our entire history, give him some respect, and he's cb!!! We've worse things to focus on instead of that bs excuse you guys have on Casemiro
Are Bayern trolling us? First rumoured to want Ole, then Rangnick, now Ten Hag
Rangnick said no to them aswel but said to yes to us and we fucked him over weâre just a disgrace
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Dayumm they wanted ole đČ
@@dariusdreams8480 they didn't want ole they aproached naglesman and rangnick never actually aproached ole it was media rumour
They don't want hag. That's just agents starting rumors
Itâs really depressing supporting this United team
Feel like fuckin crying đ
I dont even watch the games anymore tbh I just go on LiveScore to see the score
@@LeighBramleyI think I did a little our whole club culture and passion and good football and good coaching itâs all gone everything has been sucked dry I canât believe what Iâm seing
Then go and support someone else.......PLEASE.
I have supported UTD longer than most supporters (ha ha ha ) on here.
Our starting 11 today..
Defense
5th choice CB with DM playing as CBs, a natural right back as left back who struggles to progress play even in his natural position.
Midfield
A 30 plus without legs and defensive nous, an 18 year old and a player having his first start in PL since October(Mount).
Attack
A 19 year old and 20 year old in front line. Antony at right wing.
Bench
Nada or Zilch.
Honestly which team can win matches in this situation?
Welp, he could have sat a CDM in front of the CBs like amrabat? Allowed mainoo and Mount to double up, perhaps finally utilised amad more? Dalot on the left instead?
â@@civildiscourse7626Even Amrabat struggled, conceded after he came on. Amad isn't as good as Antony defensively
â@@civildiscourse7626u talk like its a given đ dont see you managing shite
Agree 100%. Damned if you do/damned if you dont with Casemiro and Amrabat. Play Amrabat, we still get pumped and people ask why are you leaving a multiple time champions league winner on the bench. Play him and he gets shown up. We got battered because the squad is filled with mostly shite, and thereâs no depth. Players have given up on the season already. I dont see how yet another manager gets more out of them⊠except for maybe a couple of games at the beginning.
eth's signings led to this situation, none of his signings did anything to fix the situation at united but make it worse
Most of the players have mentally checked out already in this team. Several players looked like they have given up already and waiting to be sold. We need a massive overhaul of the squad in the summer. We could literally sell 15 players and need another 13 or so players to even have a chance.
I don't even care how many injuries we have, I think the simple fact is that the players looked absolutely lost.
All their passing looked awkward, passing to marked players, standing waiting for the ball to come to them, or having to change direction to pick-up a pass, with players constantly out of position,like having 2- 3 players standing there watching a teammate running past them with the ball, and having no clue what to do with themselves.
A lot of the stuff like poor passes is of course down to the players, but the manager should have a way of play drilled into them, like the players should not be standing there looking like they have no clue where to run or what to do with the ball.
They had what, 9 days to prepare for this game? And it looked like United just grabbed 11 randomers from the street and gave them a shirt. Whatever is going on in training I think it's very unlikely that they were working on patterns of play for the last 8-9 days. If you told me they were all in Amsterdam on mushrooms and weed I'd believe it.
It's been like that all along. Injuries are no excuses by ETH. Newcastle have injuries as well like other teams but they still put on a fine display uklike these deadwoods we have. Lazy with ridiculous wages. The football is slow, boring and completely disjointed. Even Luton Town play exciting, fast running attacking football. How long are they going to put up with this shamble?
I'd agree but injuries are easier dealt with if you've already built a fortress ,taking away pieces of a jigsaw that has no complete image is impossible, I will say one thing against ten tho ,why wouldn't you just play for a draw when presenting a depleted side ....but then our strength is not defending so its an impossible conundrum, if Eric thinks he's the man I beleive him,crazy as that sounds,the rotten core is in the the process of repair so let's beleive in that! Is a new manager really the way,I'm not sure
@@timmyl9121 Yea, but as an outsider, like all of us, it's hard to know what the real story is..
Like is ETH pushing the players too hard?
Are the players lazy and/or just faking injuries?
Are they actually working on tactics or just running and doing rondos for 3 hours every day?
Do the players not understand what the manager wants them to do, or do they intentionally refuse to do it, or pretend they don't know what he means? Or are they just incapable of doing what he wants?
Or is ETH stubborn, and refusing to adapt to the players?
Or is he adapting to them too much, to the extent that the tactics have to completely change when even one player is missing?
To me it seems like nothing has really changed in years, the players look clueless (except when they play well for 20 minutes every so often), and like the wingers are constantly swapping sides, midfielders swapping positions, defenders not watching the runners, full backs tucking in too much, etc.
If you told me Ole was still in charge I'd believe it, because when things go wrong the players fumble about exactly like they did 3 years ago..
United is really broken... no squad depth, players can't position themselves properly, bad decision making by our attackers, slow/lazy players..what hurts the most is they can't keep the ball longer than 4/5 seconds... United currently playing like a team that gave up in fighting relegation..
INEOS and his team needs to make drastic changes this coming summer. Especially in this team. No good manager can win with this team we have currently
No but any other manager would have changed and just parked the bus and not took a battering how does this guy keep getting us games where weâre battered time to go
@willtallis5275 not with the current team mateđ.. they bad at that as well. They struggle to do basic things right
Still doesn't excuse the manager's poor tactics and cluelessness in the offensive third. Man Utd doesn't look like a coached side - all I see is a bunch of players that turn up to play matches without any tailored training beforehand. That's all down to the manager, I'm afraid!
@@MuhammadAbbas-lq8fh No, this mess is all down to the Glazers. Pathetic to be scapegoating yet another manager
@@MuhammadAbbas-lq8fhabsolutely no play style. Not even glimpses of what how this manager wants team to play. Every game this season the players played same lousy way with no changes whatsoever from the manager. Madness
That was complete humiliation. Not sure what else to say.
DO NOT BLAME THE PLAYERS, DO NOT BLAME INJURES. ETH HAS TO GO. PLEASE INOES. PLEASE GET US FLICK OR TUCHEL. PLEASE!
U don't have to say anything now Ineos have to start to act!
â@@mainelettuce9040none of them
No words to describe this sh1tshow. Out now.
Itâs sad
Sam you were so loud about wanting a new goalkeeper. Be careful what you wish for.
The game changer...
Easy to blame the keeper. The entire defense was terrible
you know let us all agree what is happening with the team judging manager wont help how many managers come and go
I never seen a keeper get beat so often on his near side. Itâs bizarre.
"transformative signing"
I said it on twitter during the game. That was worse than the 4-1 defeat to Watford, which got Ole the sack. I've always wanted to see Managers get at least 3 years to shape the club, but this is getting tough to watch
He should have packed his bags after the 7-0 Liverpool humiliation never mind this! What on earth are the powers that be at this club waiting for?
Mah give him one more year like RELAX BRO
@@JuliaRichardsto be honest I though that at the time. And am thinking that again itâs not like we donât get battered often is it we bloody do all the time and he does nothing about it
So we are still being humiliated years after OGS was sacked. Have you considered that this mess isn't the manager's fault?
@jhpfdijtuiweruot I've backed every manager since Sir Alex until they've been sacked. The environment the Glazers have allowed to develop has set our managers up to fail. I'm hoping to see Ten Hag get at least one season under Ineos, but I'm worried for him with this run we're having
The fact that players keep losing the ball, not running and trying to stop plays and nobody is yelling at them including the coach tells a lot.
They know whether win or lose they will get paid and they are on huge money and canât be shipped off easily.
Ten hag stubbornness to keep playing players who donât try and play well will keep him longer .
Who will he play?
Iâm just so glad someone else sees that this coach never reacts to their errors on the pitch
â@@michaelmario6020the academy players were always ready to step up
@@unclephil7517thatâs throwing them under the bus
@@michaelmario6020 there are academy players who have played their positions for years and deemed fit to play than any player being moved out of position
2:41 Sam has finally come to his senses. I've literally been seeing this from last year. There's been no improvement since the opening game of the season vs Wolves
He's holding on to hope he'll come good, but I can't see it. Utd get outplayed by every team in the prem whether it's Sheffield Utd or City. Midfield open everyone running through. That the managers tactics.
Not sure why anyone is shocked, we've been shyt this whole season, no one should honestly be surprised.
In normal circumstances, what we saw tonight was the manager dying on his own sword.
The team ain't good enough, and they're all throwing ETH under the bus.
our worst ever season was 1973, getting relegated that year was bad, but think this team is worse!!
Sell the lot of them
many of the players that game were his signings, and they are already throwing him a bus in one year? What does this tell us then
Casemiro wouldn't have to lunge if our midfield setup with better, or slightly deeper in general. Mainoo + Amrabat staying deep to protect the back four would have made this result a lot better. It's all down to the set up.
Exactly, we play with no defensive midfielder most games
We have three of the worst signings this season, Onana, Amarabat & Mount.
Agreed, absolute waste of money, then add Antony the one trick pony at ÂŁ85 million, all ETHs signings, he's hopeless.
And Varane, Martinez & Malacia always seem to be injured⊠which signing is fit & reliable lol
â@@dariusdreams8480varane is just injury prone clown
@@gigabyte2573 Amrabat dodn't cost us anything and Mount has been injured all season. He was only brought in to replace the outgoing homegrown players, Maguire and Mct, who were both off to West Ham. ÂŁ50m for an England international Champions League winner on the credit card is perfect business for the Glazers
@@dariusdreams8480 Ten Hag didn't sign Varane! Lol
the sad thing is i'm not even mad after that, it was almost expected
Real madrid play and Manage Modric and Kroos perfectly as aging players. Casemiro has been left exposed as the only man standing in a gaping midfield and now a defense with no protection in front of it
Ten Hag would do just fine with Real Madrid's squad and Ancelotti would not be able to manage this useless Utd squad.
Ancelotti has lots of records to boost up the squad to other level. Where Ten Hag is famous for buying overpriced players from his old club and creating tensions with his star players.
@@ryukiryuki797 because ancelotti is a good manager and Ten Hag got lucky with a great patch of players from Ajax
You know it was luck because he came and saw Van debeek struggling, couldnât even help him find form, just pretended he wasnât there then fcked him off
â@@SelvinMartin bro u know this is a dumb comment buh anyway WE MOVE
â@@SelvinMartinDon't know why people don't understand this. At Ajax he had a director in place who built the team for him. At United he has shown he is really poor at player recruitment. He brought in a bunch of players that he knew already and only one of them has done well, and of course he has been injured most of the time. He should be sacked just for signing the spinner alone. Paying almost 4x the amount a player is worth and having a company he is involved with benefit from it, how is that acceptable? And it's not like he has been able to develop players. Garnacho hasn't improved, and he has probably harmed Mainoo's development.
People seem to think sacking ten hag means the players are let off again. Two things can be right at the same time. I think ten hag has to go now along with the majority of these players. Ineos have already supposedly said half the squad is for sale, that ain't going to change if the manager also goes.
That narrative would've been true much earlier in the season, but everyone from ETH to the players have been abysmal all season.
Barely had a team.out. Old age at the heart of the team... against a very dynamic, athletic team. Was on the cards.
Yeah Iâm the same we know any team can smash UTD and they know it.
Never seen somebody as slow as casemiro
I love how you react immediately after the match. Are you convinced that ETH has to leave?
You think Ten Hag is your problem ?
@@michaelmario6020 U don't know anything about football
â@@michaelmario6020yes. You play to your teams strength he should have changed it since january and been more defensive be more compact.
And you think Eth is responsible for the way the team is playing, player power is the problem, sell the players that corrupt the team.
'Big teams' know when to get rid of players, i love Casemiro and Varane, while we thought we were getting 'Proven winners' It was actually Real Madrid getting rid of players past their prime.
Our beloved club on the other hand is in delulu land keeping players past their prime, keeping players who are good enough and still fans we expect to challenge for tittles.
Our youngsters dont deserve this. Rasmus, Garnacho, Mainoo, Dalot should be protected from this circus i honestly wouldn't feel bad if the better teams would snatch them from us cause you just want them to succeed and there's no way its happening at this club.
Play U23's for the rest of the season. We have nothing to lose
I think Carragher made a good point last night - ETH may end up staying next season because INEOS don't want to pick a new manager yet.
The available options for new manager, in my opinion are:
1) unproven/more experienced at the top level, but would want to buy loads of players to play they way they want
2) Managers who could get more out of the current squad, which has a lot of players in it that we don't want to stay at Utd
ETH staying allows the structure above to get in place, time to assess the squad needs and find the players to bring in for 2025.
We had the same conversations when Watford beat us 4-1 and OGS got the boot. If United sack Eric, we'll be going backward. Ineos can also see which players are not performing and the toxicity within that squad. Ralph Ranick let them get on with it to prove a point that some these players are just not good enough. Eric looks to be doing the same.
9 players who started today never kicked a ball for united before Ten Hag arrived but we still hear this line trotted out
Come to think of it, 8 of TenHag signing plays tonight. It has more to do with TenHag tactics. The likes of Casemiro and Amrabat will go to another club next season and play better football, just like Sancho and Ronaldo. TenHag is not good enough. it's as simple as that.
He hasn't even made 8 signings. What are you talking about? Lol
Hey that's mean all the manager were sacked before him were not good enough too... please sometimes try to be reasonable
Shambolic performance!
It's painful being a Manchester United fan this season đą đ
That felt like the Watford loss under Ole
Weâre terrible, even with the bad luck weâve had thereâs no way we should be a mid table club
You got it wrong. We are a very lucky 8th.
We are 11 points higher then expected points. We are at 15th place on expected points. Yeah, we have had injuries, but so does every other club. We are lucky to not be close to relegation. The people who asked for Ole's head should be embarrased.
@@Random_Einsteinno ole wasnât good enough either and thatâs okay to admit and also Erik isnât good enough aswel itâs that simple we really fucked up not geting pep could you imagine us with him and not city how did we allow that to happen
Nah were not, we just have an incompetent manager and a team that are not well coached. Thereâs no way we should look that poor. How Amad Dialo isnât starting ahead of Erikson whoâs legs have gone I will never understand. How Casemiro is still being played when his legs have gone i will never understand. At some point you need to wake up and smell the coffee. The manager isnât good enough and at this point in the season younger players who will still be playing football at the highest level in 2 seasons need to be getting game time. The squad is thin with injuries but there is no excuse for some of Erikâs selections and lack of tactical changes when we donât have a back 4
I just saw the interview of owen & scholes, & they said they can bet steve McLaren isn't involved in selecting, i think they better know then us. But if ten hag isn't taking on his experience & players aren't working hard we are doomed. I don't think ten hag is a bad coach, give him that Bayern team & he would win the league next year with the reserve. But we have dealt such a bad hand at mismanagement for so long years. People criticise bruno for sulking & all etc. but he is the one should build the team around & the youngster. Coach sets up team to win & it's job of players to go out ther & show it. Even if everything else going wrong, as quality player (which most are) they should atleast try. But defence gave up, midfield gave up. Front players were stranded alone.
Manchester united looks like a championship team while crystal palace looks like a premier league team
It's a surprise he even managed to get 11 players match-fit..
Fans are spoiled from the Fergie-era and think they're entitled to a top 4 finish regardless of what had happened since then to your club and to other clubs in the EPL
Not could, he has to go now.
Personally I wouldn't even give him the cup final, let Mclaren take the reigns before he goes as well.
I think you may have a point. McClaren may not be a great man manager, but he is a sensational coach, and three games might be just enough to knock us into shape we need to have half a chance in the cup final.
There is NO EXCUSE for not being able to set a team up to be difficult to play against. That is BASIC football COMPACT defending and wide attacking. EMBARRASSING!
Coach who...? Please remind me. Everybody is now a coach?
As soon as results start going against us, everyone becomes a world class keyboard coach
nah nobody ever said wide attacking is a must.
@@steve13191 by making the pitch wide you stretch the back four of the opposition it's COMMON SENSE!
It is a pain to be Man Utd supporter these days. But, every manager we had in recent past has gone through a similar phase before getting sacked. We had lost hope from someone who we desperately wanted to have as manager. We always had limited patience (2 seasons or so, even if we had won trophies with the guy). I think we should forget this season, close our eyes, and put faith in the man. If not, mind you, these same players will be here and again will put the other manager down soon.
I decided not to watch that game. I've seen enough this season to know we'll be getting a beating. My heart cannot take it anymore!!!
The defence is a disaster, the midfield no legs, no Bruno no wins
And people actually wanted mount to replace Bruno delusional
Saying it since September. He's out of his depth. He's a train wreck
And he is very stubborn. A coach should adapt his style to the players he has available. How do you start Eriksen & Anthony when you have better options. Eriksen does not have the legs and you know Palace players will run him down.
Saying it for nearly two decades. This is the Glazer's mess and nothing to do with the constant stream of managers that they keep sacking
WE COULD NEVER FIELD 1 CONSISTENT BACK FOUR LET ALONE THE BEST BACK 4 FOR AT LEAST 3 GAMES THIS SEASON. LAST SEASON WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS PROBLEM, WON THE CARABAO, WENT INTO FA CUP FINAL AND QUALIFIED FOR UCL FINISHING 3RD. SOMEONE WANTS ETH OUT...
He's done. Wouldn't surprise me if he's gone tomorrow. McClaren as caretaker to the end of the season, otherwise the cup final could be the sort of humiliation that we'll never live down.
Ok. No first choice centre backs, no first choice left backs, Eriksen in midfield, no Bruno Fernandes. What exactly did you expect? You could have put Pep in charge today and he wouldn't have done any better. Be realistic
Stop the crap, Brentford played us off the pitch with a 2nd string back 4. He has a patched up CB pairing- shore that up by sitting amrabat in front of them as a CDM! How hard is it
@@civildiscourse7626u do realise when u have no consistency in that back line there is not going to be any coherence in your team. Ur setup to fail if it keeps constantly changing. Which it did against Brentford, the players levels just arenât good enough.
â@@civildiscourse7626the cbs were not first nor second but 3rd choice cbs mind u. plus a dm. and a rb on the left. i have lost count of the number of combinations utd defense have had this season
Pep won the 2008 champions league final playing Yaya Toure at CB
@miaavashow1751 no he didn't check your facts mate
Embarrassing performance from everyone on the pitch including Ten Haag. I am disappointed in Ten Haag, Casemiro was a walking dead, AWB, Evans, Mainoo, Rasmus, Erikson is worse than my 3 year old. Mainoo, Antony was just horrific, Dalot can't defend for his life. Mount was just like a headless chicken and Garnacho was just kicking it back because he was doubled down on every time he was on the ball....
Ineos has people in Old Trafford every game, Erik must know this, and assuming he's not an idiot he must also know how bad this looks
It has to be over tonight!
Many in the fanbase love hammering Rashford, Bruno, McTominey, Maguire and Lindelof. Well none of them played tonight.
Those players once went a record 29 away games WITHOUT defeat across THREE seasons.
Tonight at Palace, United suffered their 16th - yes, 16th away defeat under Ten Hag in 2 seasons.
When is the penny finally go to drop with this fanbase that problem IS Ten Hag. Wake up and smell the coffee!
U think those players are fine when they sacked 3 managers đ listen to yourself!!!
They went unbeaten because it was fukin lockdown mate đ there was no intimidating atmosphere but as soon as the fans come back that record dwindled so quickly. It was a false representation letâs be real , donât you dare act like these players are good enough for one secondâŠ
If you want to get rid of manager fine but if you do that clear out the rest of the squad first before u do that and start afresh. And ur also acting as if those injuries were supposed to bring out the best in our team since the ppl who take the blame wernt there, except there is one issue with that. The players that are injured left no depth so players were forced to play out of position like wan and case.
Also one q
Who would u replace eth with then? Most of the options I can think of are either unrealistic or a sideways step or even backwardsâŠ
@@VirkStar321
1. Those players you love to hate were good enough to finish 3rd and 2nd in successive seasons - NOT 8th.
2. However bad they were, this team is WORST under Ten Hag
3. Your lockdown argument is idiotic because if it was so easy everyone would have gone 29!away games without defeat defeat. No one else did. Not City, not Liverpool not anyone. Pathetic that you canât give your own side any credit.
4. You spew out emotional manure against the group of players who didnât play tonight, but fail to make a single criticism against Ten Hag. Under this man, United are the WORST coached in the Prem League. Absolutely clueless.
5. Injuries are an excuse. He simply has not produced an effective method of play.
6. You very cowardly fail to deal with SIXTEEN away defeats in 2seasons. Last season when he didnât have the injuries, he suffered 8 away defeats, same as this season.
7. Ten Hag last season - when he didnât have the injuries he lost every away game against other sides in the top eight. This season virtually the same: lost away against every side in the top 8, except Villa.
8. Seven of last nightâs starting 11 were bought by Ten Hag. Another 2 were given their debuts by him. This was HiS team.
AND you still prefer to go after players who did not play tonight rather than open your eyes to the blindingly obvious. This manager is NOT good enough.
Now, go wash your foul mouth out with soap. Might improve your level of communication, even if it wonât do anything to improve the quality of your arguments.đ
@@VirkStar321 Replace Ten Hag with Tuchel at the end of the season. If United get hammered at OT by Arsenal this Sunday, they will have to sack him, there and then. At the moment United are heading for a 6-0 defeat in the cup final against City - in front of the watching world. INEOS cannot just sit on their hands and watch the club sail into the iceberg.
Nope, you are confused. Lighten up and get yourself prepared to be educated:
1. Those players finished third twice and second twice in the League. Never 8th (current position) Until Ten Hag.
2. Pathetic that you abuse your own team for a 29 game unbeaten away record. If it was so easy then why werenât City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea or any side in the Prem or entire football league able to do the same? Youâre talking out your backside, on this one. And the odour is foul.
3. The players are on contracts with high wages. They go only if they want to go. And - as we have seen in the past - many prefer to let their contracts run down and then move on a free. So, you can jump up and down and stamp your little feet all you want, but wholesale clear-out will not be as easy you seem to think. Lol.
4. But hereâs the deal. You could buy prime Messi and Ronaldo and top defenders and midfielders but the team would still struggle with this manager.
5. Injuries are an excuse that the gullible - like you - swallow with relish. Well he had his strongest team out against Liverpool at Anfield last season and took United to their worst defeat in history, not just against Liverpool but everyone. Never before in their history have United conceded 7 goals in 45 minutes without reply, while their manager stood mute on the sidelines.
Look the stats against this guy are overwhelming. Letâs just cut to the chase.
Ten Hag is Unitedâs biggest problem and must go.đ„ž
Get a new manager then deal with the players that manager and INEOS want to keep or let go.
@@really8930 alright we do it your way, and when your screaming for another manager in a year an half because the shine has gone of the new one we will seeâŠ
Itâs not like arteta or Pep or even klopp needed a few seasons before they actually started doing something
And the fact ur making excuses for these players is unbelievable u would have thought u would have learnt something in the past ten years I guess notâŠ
Getting rid of most of these players will be hard but it has to be done they are not good enough and if ten hag goes they have to go as well.
Btw the unbeaten run is a very skewed statistic if anything it only proves these players cannot perform under pressure because as soon as the crowds came back bam the streak had been lost. And if that streak proved how good they were why didnât they win the league then? These are the standards we should be setting
Although tuchel is realistic and viable I donât see how he is a major step up from eth, he struggled to win the league with Bayern and although done well in cup competitions which we wonât be able to provide him since we are not in Europe I just donât see the big point in switching now. But Iâll be honest he is the most realistic and viable option because he is a good coach but if he did come I wouldnât be surprised if in a year and a half u are already calling for his head. The simple fact of the matter is that managers need time to implement ideas and clear deadwood, the issue in switching manager is also bad for the team as both philosophy of the way ten hag and tuchel see the game is completely different, tuchel will have to replace all the players or pieces in the team again and start again which would not be good. And it is expensive changing managers btw and Iâm pretty sure we are still financially struggling, and Iâm not sure if the money comes out of ffp.
Jose Mourinho was sacked on 16th Dec,2018 after a 3-1 loss to Liverpool,number 6 in the table.Mourinho had won Europa League,Carabao Cup and an FA Cup.the fact that Erik Ten Hag is still a manger is the shock of the season!.
Mourinho did not win the FA Cup at United.
@@noelwilliams8835doesnât matter we also sacked van gal during an fa cup final which he won he has to go now
Iâm not sure we played this bad the season we got relegated
I never thought I would see United just be a mid table team giving up wishing the season was over , they look like they are already on their planes going on holiday
I think the players morale is damaged even more from the announcement of Ineos open to bids on the whole starting 11. Yea it's been poor whole season but this is the worse "wash off" for the whole season.
Time for a fire sale and a full rebuild , how can we have so many injuries seriously !!! Mentally some of the United players are gone, even if Utd decide to fire ETH and bring someone else as manager, it will be the same. Some players need to go !!! It will benefit Utd to be out of Europe and have a proper rebuild from top management to bringing in new players.. And please fire that medical team, they are crap !!!
Still Ten Hag in? đ
13 defeats, 52 goals scored, 55 goals conceded. Horrible to watch, doughnut formation with the huge hole in the middle, players being asked to do jobs that do not suit them.... yes we have had loads of injuries, but in the GN interview ETH says it's hard to change the setup to have to change back again when players are fit... does he not realise that's what you have to do as a manager? You have to adapt to what you have available. We now have 1 win in the last 8 games (counting the semi as a draw). We struggle to score goals under ETH, we struggle to stop goals under ETH.... what has he done on the pitch to show he deserves to stay? I don't see anything. Even last season, we didn't score many goals 58, it's not like going forward we are great. Everyone of his big money signings have question marks on them. Time to go for the best up and coming manager whoever that may be... like we did with Fergie, Chelsea did with Jose, Liverpool did with Klopp
Congrats on the 400k Followers.... well done!
I've run out of patience with Ten Hag. I've never liked his playstyle since he joined United. Winning the Carabao Cup and finishing 3rd last year were positive moments, but deep down, I felt it wasn't sustainable. He's a stubborn coach, and this season has highlighted that. Despite our many injuries, recurring defensive errors and midfield gaps persist game after game. Different players in the same position making the same mistakes must be attributed to the manager. He continues to break unwanted record after unwanted record. Some of you may still have reasons to support him, but this is my opinion and I believe he's not up to the mark.
Am I the only one that thinks Mainoo is pretty useless without the ball? Not piling on the kid, but it has to be said. He's not the strongest & he seems to be pretty slow. He's not the main problem obviously, but idk if we can compete at a decent level with him in our pivot
Unfortunately that's true. Noticed that aswell (also in the games before). Defensively his game is very weak
I agree, Mainoo is an amazing talent, but also overhyped and still a kid that makes mistakes and needs to develop further
Heâs 19 and is literally 6 months into his first season at senior football. Ofc heâs not gonna be the finished package and be a defensive genius. Heâs also been run into the ground.
I kinda disagree ngl, when thereâs that much space in behind because the line is so deep itâs going to look like heâs getting exposed all the time. And thatâs for any midfielder you put in there. But i think mainoo tackling ability is exceptional, the way he goes for the ball and closes ppl down is very clever in those 1 on 1 duels he covers a lot of ground and ends up winning the ball and his stockiness in his physical ability is rlly good. And heâs pretty ok in the air for someone his height. Of the ball I think heâs class as well itâs just this system is so bad and so difunxtional it looks awful on him, like no midfielder would be able to track back the yards he would have, I would argue u out valverde and Jude there and they will look rlly exposed and these guys are supposed to be quick midfielders. Mainoo has decent pace but not their level. Itâs just a system issue I thinkâŠ
Mainoo looks like he's running on sand when he gets turned. He is not a good tackler when we get transitioned.
He is a good tackler when the game is infront if him like the first few games when he was our deepest midfielder.
He now players further forward and struggles with tracking back. We just need someone more athletic in the midfield alongside him to make him look better.
We will end up with another Pogba if things don't change. Maino lo can contribute at both ends of the pitch but defending is NOT a strong attribute of his. He will look even better when an effective 6 players alongside him.
Sam's right on this ..its the players and the structure at fault not the manager.
I just sat on my sofa watching the game, feeling completely numb and not even angry or mad anymore tells you my mental condition watching this Man United side.
The excitement of watching Man United has been dead and now I'm just lost.
So hard to watch our beloved team
Again Ten Hag to blame for woeful defending from professionals
He is to blame for the tactics. As Sam said where was the bouncer in midfield to help out your makeshift center back pairing. Weâve seen it all season and he refuses to fix it. Why?
@@jtmz87 so better play for a draw when we need wins only?
Fabrizio confirmed Munich interest in Ten Hag gathering momentum i think it's best for everyone, shambolic preformance embarrassing
10Hag keeps forcing the same game plan, irrespective of who is playing, against who we play. âPlay out from the back.â Only 3 to 4 players deserve to stay.
When learning to drive did you change the road code to fit your style of driving? Didnât you practice according to the code until you were successful?
I get your frustration, I have it too. With all your videos, you understand that most of the players on the field do not deserve to wear the badge. I will not beat up EtH for that.
Hope this performance hasn't given Olise the ick...need him at United next season...NEED HIM
We should not be asking for a player that will not be a regular in man city, arsenal or Liverpool. Man u should look for world class.
â@@gben4life All the world class players we thought we had before what did they do for usđ
@@ugochukwumgbemene3869 Agreed, how many times have we heard the same old shout of, we need to buy so and so, then another so and so, spend another ÂŁ400 million on second rate has-beens !
Casemiroâs is best suited closer to the defense and screening everything. Heâs being asked to run around like a headless chicken in a hyper transitional system which is not his game.
The away fans were terrific! Eriksen and Mount should never start in the midfield!
Ten Hag gets sacked the week after the FA Cup Final. You heard it here first.
Before
This geezer was backing ten hag before this game trust the progress lol đđđ
some of these fans are so deluded..how do u back this..this guy says its hard to watch..its only 3 games left..what has he been watching the whole season
I'd like the Ten Hag Out crowd to explain to me why the next manager is going to be successful with this team. I'm waiting.
Sam STOP nobody is going to invite you to a press conference, stop defending ETH, he is rubish and the team doesnât believe him anymore
Given the statement by ETH responding to the Bayern link, I feel that that decision has already been made and ETH has already been informed that he would stay next season to fulfill the last year of his current contract.
I hope so. Anyone with an ounce of sense and knowledge about football just has to look at the team we are fielding. Barely any of these players are up to the required standard. We've seen what he can do in the first season. Get rid of the dross, get people fit again and bring a few hungry players in and we will improve no doubt.
â@@codamh4862 9 of those players that started today were all brought into the team or bought by 10 hag. 10hag has wasted 400 mill on deadwood. The players he has sold are better than the players he bought.
He keeps playing Antony and Onana. What can explain that? Antony is sooooo crap
@@pt90 what can explain it? How about cos there are no other options. I'm absolutely certain if he had a better option than Anthony he would play him, but he doesn't.
@codamh4862 he signed Antony for 80 mil ffs. And he says Antony is the quickest in the first 10 yards. What does it mean?
Anyone that thinks we got this humiliated because of lack of defenders must have his or her football knowledge checked. we got so humiliated simply because we have a very naive manager, itâs simple as. In a situation like this, just get down to basics of football, itâs not rocket science ETH, itâs football and there are principles that guides the game, if you ignore them then I donât care who you are, you will be found out. itâs the worst season for me as a long time fan.
Anyone who thinks that the squad he has to work with is anywhere near fit for purpose must have his football knowledge checked
"his or her"
Lol. You're scared to type out the word "his" on the internet in case the rainbow flag crew come after you
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot If you have an identity as a manager, and you establish a playing culture/style, players will perform basics, it may not be perfect but at least we wonât be getting humiliated. As a manager, your job is to manage and not keep giving excuses. In a game like that of yesterday , knowing you donât have a defense , all he needed to have done was to use midfield to protect the vulnerable defence and play a compact football, not looking so open, Thatâs management. I know heâs dealing with so much at moment, but heâs not handling it well at, he needs to be bigger and take bold decisions, he should stop acting so naive. You are short of full backs, yet you allowed the young Fernandez to go out on loan. You change formation to manage situation, fergie has done it before, he didnât give excuses. Just see what we have become, we look like a newly promoted team fighting relegation, itâs disheartening, the is MANCHESTER UNITED FC !!!!!!!! Let that sink inâŠâŠ so forgive me if I canât condone mediocrity.
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot LOL
@@damilarepierre8900 When did I condone mediocrity? The Glazers are to blame for this mess of a squad not the managers. Clearly never been to Manchester in your life and just another internet âfanâ crying from your smartphone
I've been consistently TH in, but it's getting harder to defend him. Besides the injuries and poor individual performances TH also made big mistakes. If our CB's are weak, he should have put amrabat instead of eriksen and ask the fullback to take on a more defensive role.
I will not turn on EtH. Is he "the one"? Maybe not. But a large portion of that squad are not at the level required, too young still, or can simply not be asked.
The manager question is not interesting to me. Totalky renovating this squad, is. End of.
Honestly Sam, I am out of the manager debate. I am ETH in, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was sacked. We were totally outclassed on all departments
Iâm still Eth in too but part of me wants him to get sacked so that he can prove himself elsewhere. Bcs this club and its fanbase and the players are in an endless rotten cycle that will ruin whoever wants to change its course.
Players came to die here and managers came to die here.
If your ETH in at this point your just a massive loser who wants to appear as virtuous. Our standards have evaporated.
Why are any of you ETH in, based on what actually? Do you watch the matches?
TEN HAG IN for what?? More losses?? TEN HAG OUT!!!! đ€Źđ€Źđ€Ź
I donât know why u are eth in and u guy should stop say this agenda the player are crap etc because the manager himself his crap , 8 of those players that play today was bought in by eth so what the heck !!!
Time for Eric to clog off, the tulip fields are calling.
This joker actually went âI still stand by âŠâ. Then trailed off lol. The instinct to defend ten hag is so insidious
It was the first game this season where I turned off the tv. Crystal Palace were brilliant. It just shows how a team with a plan can work.
Sack Ten Hag now and bring in a new manager. You get the manager bounce in your first season and repeat the cycle. Same happened to Mourinho
So what do they do?
@@adjeiboateng6720 He won't have an answer because it's much easier just to criticise from the side lines ! There is a famous saying in life and it goes like this " Any Fool Can Criticise"
I feel sorry for tenhag
Why
He is stubborn that his problem and a big problem for many modern day managers
you should follow him to his next club, i feel sorry for United
Whether you're Ten Hag in or out, you can't deny that he is in very real danger of his position becoming untenable
Losing is fine but like this?? Like a team in league 2? Embarrassing.
Losing is not fine.
@allpurpose8678 it's not...thats why I said it's fine but not like this
Injuries or not, this performance is on the Manager. I've supported him all through but this cannot be defended. The legs of Casemiro, Evans and Erikson are long gone!
He had Amrabat on the bench instead of on the pitch! No energy in that midfield! Has United ever lost to Crystal Palace by four unreplied goals? Most of the players need to be offloaded too. It's likely the end of the road for Ten Hag.đ
Coach Who....? You people keep blaming the Manager everytime. You think a new manager will solve the problem? Get a new manager. He does better the first season and on the next drops in performance you people will ask for a new manager.
Well said bro. I like him too and I still think he will have a good career in the future but it looks like his journey here is ending.
Heâs been unlucky but canât defend some of his decisions. Why always start Antony??Amrabat in midfield today whyâs Eriksen playing full 90??
Iâd rather he started only the kids even if they lost 4-0 too
@@michaelmario6020 I have ALWAYS backed Ten Hag because I liked what I saw in his first season as Manager. I however think he's been stubborn by using the same set of players over and over again without rotating his squad enough. Yes, the squad is not good enough BUT players like Amad and Mount (when fit) can add value to the team if given game time to help them integrate into the team. Who knows, this could be part of the reasons why the injuries have been insanely high this season. I have been supporting Manchester United for well over two decades and I can boldly say that this is not the United I used to know.
Was 4 could have been more. Let's see what ineos and Jim ratcliffe want to do with ETH. Great video Sam
The team capitulated. A lot of the players that played yesterday know that they won't be there for the next year. They couldn't care less.
The season's already over.
Think ETH will be the first manager to be sacked in the tunnel at Wembley đ City are going to muller us
Sorry Eric close the door on the way out
Quit playing from the back! What a downer!
INEOS, if you are listening, if you ever get rid of Erik, then ask him to take the squad with him out the door. There is no use keeping them if you get rid of Erik. Just start from scratch with the under 18's team. Otherwise just give the man a break and support him the right way, privately and publicly, it's only fair. If next season we are still at the same point then you may pull the trigger knowing he failed with substantial support.
The way you guys are allowing the rumours around Erik to keep circulating is not helping at all, it's really making things difficult coz the players are always tuned to these rumours and your silence also makes them doubt your commitment to Erik.
It's your fault INEOS as much as it's Erik's fault and the players fault. No one will appreciate working in such uncertainties, it's not a conducive environment to work in.
To be honest, this man doesnât really know what heâs doing
No left back, no CDM, no proper CBs, team is full of weak mentality players. Wtf is any manager supposed to do???
Remind me pls .... You are coach who...?
@@fromthestretfordend7110He set himself up for failure right from the transfer window.
@@fromthestretfordend7110 i still blame him. He set himself for failure from the signings. 60 Casemiro, Varane, Onana, Anthony. So yeah i fkn blame him.
Polite reminder that all of Ten Hag's signings are available and fit to play. He started all of them tonight except Amrabat who came in second half.
Finally, WE NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO OLE......HE WAS NEVER THIS BAD .....THIS COACH IS A FRAUD.
The only positive tonight: Olise passed his audition đŻ
Iâm still Ten Hag in all day longâŠâŠjust trust in the projectâŠ.I think he is the only manager past Fergie to trust and intergrate the youth and give us hopeâŠâŠ.As for the rest of the players, fu*k off for all I careâŠ.They doânt give a toss about the fansđą
I would want ETH to stay, Just look at Liverpool, klopp took the job from brendan Rogers, who was 6th in their previous season and klopp took them to 8th in his first season, since then he has not even finished below 6th. He was given Time.
Lets take Arsenal for instance, in Arteta's first and second season, he was 8th twice losing 13 and 12 games. Since then he has been 5th 2nd and now 1st which i know he won't be there for long. All am saying is ETH needs time, he isn't perfect he has his flaws but it will work out if given time. In him i trust.
I think many of us just have had enough this season ,from this team and now I am just going to sadly add -this coach .
It is sad but the truth is that those players (and that applies for almost all of them ) have no desire to fight for this club and manager .And most of all -they just embarrassed themselves out there ,they made us feel embarrassed for god knows which time now with the lack of desire , motivation , professionalism .Those players do not respect themselves ,let alone this club and the fans . Wrong ,weak mentality shown -you are a bunch of cowards and should be ashamed of yourselves!!
I DONT KNOW WHAT TO THINK BUT im skeptical about dutch coaches ronald koeman,peter bozch finally ten hag let see what arne slot will do
Think we reached a point where it doesn't matter who the manager is. Get rid of the players. Doesn't matter if we have Sean Dyche in the dugout. Get rid of the players
The thing is that after all this time I still have no idea what ten hag is trying to do. Every other team has some style of play to it, even Chelsea. But united just seem to do whatever every week. And I used to think ten hag was a great coach. I'm an Ajax fan and he gave me the best times as a fan I can remember, that cl run was magical. But I'm starting to think that the team was just really good and ten hag isn't as good a coach as I thought he was.
Heâll be at Bayern next year. No way he stays after that performance and Iâm rooting for him.