And yet they work just fine. I have a Toyota Camry that has been using Fram and Super Tech E-Core filters for 20 years. Normally buy them on clearance for $1.50 or less!
My father-in-law, A tool engineer for Westinghouse, swore by this stuff.. It REALLY works! Had a 79 honda with 125,000 miles on the engine. Did a rebuild and the mechanic said the heads looked like brand new! Use in oil and gas....
I have used Marvel Mystery oil as a gas and oil treatment since I found out about it when I was a kid back in the late 50's. I used it in all small engines and later in every car I have owned since. Great for keeping them all running smooth.
Glad you've discovered MMO benefits. Personally I've used it too. My Dad showed me what MMO will do with engines fifty years ago. Oil or gasoline, hydraulic lifters magically rejuvenate after a bath. Piston rings do what they're supposed to do. Flexing and sealing. MMO poured down caburetors clean intakes. In the oil, PVC valves clean up too. Watch a vaccuum guage before and after appling MMO. A sticky hydraulic lifter showing up on a vacuum guage will clear up. Diesel fuel injectors will clean up too. Lots more to say. ....
My dad swore by Marvel , and we used nothing else in our air tools for as long as I can remember . A quart to about every oil change is great . And I too love the smell of Marvel .
About a month ago I bought a 2002 Chevrolet Tracker 2.0L engine in San Antonio, Texas that was stated it burned/ leaked a little oil. I noticed it was down 1/2 a quart so I topped it off with 29 ounces of MMO and 8 ounces in the gas tank. Then I drove the 260 mile trip home at about 65mph all the way. 70 miles later I topped off the gas tank and it was running much smoother. Sunday I changed the oil that was a golden color on Tuesday and it came out pitch black. I put Supertech high mileage synthetic oil back in the motor along with NGK Iridium spark plugs and the difference was night and day. Now no more oil burning or leaks. That little Suzuki J20A engine just needed some TLC. Marvel Mystery oil really is the fountain of youth for engines.
It's a naptha based oil , naptha is a cleaner. So it's a cleaning oil basically. And the wintergreen smell is real wintergreen oil to make it smell nice. One of the last few products that keeps aircraft valves from sticking in their guides.
The guy over at "project farm" does a really good job in my opinion of testing all sorts of things, especially oil. After seeing him testing supertech that's what I run in all my motors. 😎
@@FordBossMe i've used supertech conventional oil for years and have never had an engine problem caused by the cheap oil ,,i an going to try the synthetic oil and marvel mystery oil in my 2001 chevy Tahoe it has 300,000 miles on the 5.3 it has in it ,, i have used marvel mystery oil for 25 years and my grandfather used it before me
I noticed SuperTech aerosol cans are the exact same as CRC Chemical cans. It's possible that they're unrelated, but I suspect CRC is the OEM for a lot of it, and I've always had good luck with CRC products. The SuperTech carb cleaner and spray lube work as well as anything else I've used and at this point I have a good amount of trust in SuperTech branded stuff being from high quality OEMs.
@@treelineresearch3387, I can see Walmart with their tremendous buying power going to a company like CRC to have chemicals made for them. All SuperTech products sell extremely well and perform just as well as the name brand products.
Cleaned a hell of a lot of crap out of the engine in that filter, I am so impressed with the amount and proof is great that it does work. Think it worth every penny/dime spent and you say that the improvement in the engine is noticeable afterwards. Good video thanks for sharing your results 👍👍
True, nothing wrong with Super Tech oil,, especially the full synthetic.Otoh, MMO nothing but snake oil. Run a quality oil with a good filter, at manufacturer intervals, all you'll ever need.
Ford Boss Me - Thank you for staying late after work to do this for us !! I really appreciate all the content you have taken your time to do for us ! You're doing a fabulous job with all of this! I had seen metal cans of Marvel Mystery Oil back when I was a kid over 60 years ago and always wondered about it.. Now I know so much more and see how good it can do in some applications.. Keep up the great work ! It is much appreciated ! Thank your Family for sharing you with all of us .. God Bless and prayers of Faith for you and yours.. Fran Danco
Enjoying your posts on your experiment. I installed the intake pan on a 318 c.I. Ram I had. I had to run premium gas with octane boost to keep it from spark knocking and it was eating oil. Immediately after installing the intake valley pan no oil burning, regular gas, and better mileage. You will be glad you did it. Three hours for me probably two for you. Good luck.
You need to open up an oil filter from a random oil change in the shop. I’d be interested to see the comparison of debris from another motor that hasn’t had the mmo in it. Just for comparison
Appreciate your commitment after a hard day's work. I've done mechanic work, tried to do it for a living, worked on English cars back in the seventies, decided I'd rather do it as a hobby. Been in the Buick Gran Sport Club of America for almost 3 decades. Props to your mechanical mind, and work ethic, you have a God-given talent, for sure.
Great idea. Yrs back I had a customer with a Durango with a 5.2 I think. With a low no oil pressure issue. After a new sender and new svc advisor oil pump. Same issue. Spoke to customer and we did a regimen of 1k oil changes with 1540 Rotella. He did do lots of hiway miles. And after 6 Mos and 4k oil pressure was better than new and that engine was cleaner than factree. . But your milage may vary
WOW thanks for the update. Been meaning to watch one of these videos from your channel. Someone mentioned recently that the containers for the advanced full synthetic super tech no longer have wpp stamped on the bottom. I know Warren produces Mobil 1, but I bet the new super tech is now rebranded Mobil 1.
All oils are API rated so they All do the same freakin thing at the end of the day. A couple PPM difference in additives from one maker to another doesn’t do jack except slide by patents to avoid lawsuits. It’s all a joke. Oil is oil unless it’s actual TRUE synthetic.
My daughter’s 95 Miata had a lifter tick. She put in about 12 oz of MMO two weeks before we changed the oil/filter. The old oil was pretty dark. After putting in new oil and driving around a bit, there is absolutely no lifter tick. We’ll do the same routine a couple more times to be sure. The NA Miatas are known for getting ticking lifters.
I run the mmo currently for the entire oci in my 95 5.9 12v cummins dodge 2500 with cheap 15w40 conventional and a good napa filter and it runs phenomenal.
Looking cleaner! Impressed with how much carbon is being loosened by the Marvel Mystery oil. I know you are curious about seeing what is coming out of the engine. Thanks for taking the time to share with us anxious to see the next video.
I really like your videos a lot I like your testing methods it really shows what the MMO seems to have cleaned out of the engine. I always question how these products work. I may start using it in my engine oil again. Thinking maybe I will use it for a couple hundred miles before the oil changes as a flush and maybe only in the cold season in case the thinning of the oil would be bad during the hot season just my thought.
So was I until I ran stiction eliminator once in my common rail Cummins! Toss half a quart in every third oil change after the initial flush, thing idles like a Honda
Super Tech full synthetic is a good product and worked well in my 5.7 hemi, but what I found is that the hemi burned it off at a higher rate than I expected (not at an alarming rate thou, but it caught my eye). I switched to Valvoline full synthetic and the difference in burn-off rate was much less than supertech (1/4 Qt. vs 1 Qt. every 3,500 miles). Btw, I'm sold on MMO - it's a great product!
I use Castrol Edge High Mileage Full Synthetic Oil an Purolator Boss oil filter on my Ram 2500 4/4 HEMI 5.7 it's a Great Combination" I have 120,600 miles on my Truck/Hemi
Show us the dirt! This is a good demo of MMO and what it can be used for. I mix some in with the gas for my 4 stroke lawnmower, now I think I will add some to the crankcase two weeks before I change the oil.
You convinced to throw a quart into my accord. I’m 124 miles into the new oil change. Motor just hit 144k so it’s well over due for some cleaning. I’m excited to see the results.Thanks again for the content.
A good friend of mine a long time ago (he is now deceased), worked at the Lima Engine Plant (Lima, Ohio) at the time the 428 Super Cobra Jets were being assembled. He told me something I haven't forgotten for over 40-years...that on a NEW ENGINE (of that day, regardless of the manufacturer), with tight tolerances, THE BEST ENGINE OIL, bar-NONE, was MERCON/DEXRON III transmission fluid! In reality, all MMO is, is Mercon/Dexron III with a higher detergent load and some extra lubricant polymers...he told me, that in 'never-released' Ford testing, that they saw TWICE the lifespan of machine surfaces in engines that NEVER saw oil, but instead, were kept on the 'transmission fluid diet' all their life! He said it was NOT strange to get 240,000 to 350,000 miles between rebuilds of a 302 when treated as such. He said that after initial break-in (which was done on 10-W-30 equivalent, to allow proper ring and valve seating to 500-miles), filter cut-downs showed far less metal loss than a comparable engine kept on motor oil. Why was this 'never promoted' to end customers? Simple...'plan for obsolescence'...that's where C-6's went away, as did GM's Turbo-Hydramatic 400 transmissions. There was a formal release by GM on the TH-400 transmission life-story, actually...starting life with an expectancy of 400,000 miles between 'friction disk replacements', they were not getting 'sufficient replacement demands' to sell replacement transmissions, so they began a 'MTBF test' (mean-time between failures), and when they saw that the transmission was outlasting the car, the engine, etc., they started 'removing robust parts' and replacing them with lighter materials, polymers, etc. to the point that the TH-400 ended with a 270,000 mile MTBF life. When they saw it was this high still, they moved the transmission model to availability only in their TRUCK line. It only returned (in a very 'new' form) as the 4L80 many years later...located behind 400+ horsepower musclecars. I don't know about compatibility with 'new electronic engines', but my 1-Ton Chevy K-30 has a 400-small block in it, almost 300,000 miles on it...and has never ran a single oil change on motor oil...ONLY Dexron III transmission fluid...passing through a Mobile-1 filter...the best filter on the market (only comparable to the Royal Purple brand...which, incidentally, is made by the same company)...GREAT for older engines, due to the backflow valve design! If you rebuild a new motor...double its life from the start...Mobile-1 filters, and DEXRON III...you'll thank yourself for it!
Interesting I have heard of people running trans fluid to clean an engine i have never actually tried it. I was worried it was a lie and it would destroy an engine...
Marvel Mystery oil is approaching its 100th birthday. It was originally composed primarily of mineral oil, that was the highest percentage of byproducts resulting in oil refining. It contains mineral spirits so often used by painters but in less percentage than you've placed in the oil of the Dodge. It possesses good striping properties because it contains both ortho and para dichlorobenzene. It uses an extreme pressure lubricant named tricresyl phosphate where phosphorus holds three methyl-benzene units at the bottom of its tetrahedral unit with a very polar (charged) oxygen atom pointing up. That percentage can be claimed to be as high as 1%. I personally would change out the Marvel Mystery Oil and motor oil combination at your 1200 mile mark and refresh that mix and run it again if needed. I think it wise to pull that filter when you did as a microscope view of the material in the Fram would show pores dramatically blocked off. Keep in mind Marvel Mystery Oil has a low flash point and will burn like crazy.
that is just astounding how MMO cleans out the engine. I've seen the videos where MMO cuts down wear and cleans at the same time. My uncle always added it to his oil and I have used it on older engines, but here is the really amazing thing - this stuff was invented in 1923!
I bought a f150 v6 with 240k miles . Changed the oil full synthetic . The oil filter cloged in 1 thousand miles. Did a change and flush that got me 2 thousand miles . Third oil change got me 2700 miles. Stedaly cleaning itself out. Marvel is a super way to clean an engine. So is automatic transmission fluid as it has high detergent proportys. I as a auto technician i appreciate your chanel your doing a great service.
Rich, since I switched to Super Tech 5W20 in my Mustang It appears to run just as well if not better than the Mobil 1 I always used. I checked all the additives on both containers and they are the same and to boot I save a lot of money. I still use a WIX filter as I find these perfect for my application. My owners manual recommends 10,000 mile change on the 10 quart fill. There is no way in hell I would ever go 10,000 miles before a change.
Don't let the hate get to you you will never win just keep doing what makes you happy I appreciate the videos, if you compress the filter media in a vice it will push the ould out but keep the junk stuck it makes it easy to see worth a shot
I get it and if I was just solely doing CZcams I would put more time into doing stuff like that but I only have so much time in a day and I have to focus my efforts in specific areas and if I had every little thing people suggest I would never really have time for my regular job
😆 I have a busted up LG phone screen need to replace had a Samsung before was debating. Thanks for the phone input. Running MMO on my friends Traverse sounds a lot better. Going to run it for July then change. Great 👍 video Army AL
This is really really neat to see on an almost daily rate, the process of the sludge and carbon being released. Have a couple 15+ year old cars, will definitely try out the MMO.
It smells good too. I have been using Marvel in the oil and gas for 15 years. I put half quart in the oil, the other in the tank along with some Lucas, if nothing else for lubrication. You want to see spark plugs look like new? put some Marvel in the plug holes and let it run. It will smoke for quite awhile but the plug will look clean as new. I also have used Supertech filters for 20 years, great cheap filters. My Walmart does not sell them anymore sadly so I had to find another brand, and the Quakerstate filters are just as good at Menards, but sadly those have also disappeared.
Great video, keep up the good work! Not a fun of fram filters at all, but for cleaning the engine they will work just fine. OEM filters and aftermarket is wix Is my choice.
Well this is one of the high-end synthetic ones it's not the fiber and ones that people talk trash about but really aren't that bad anyway it's just got a bad rep because people like to blame the oil filter and not their oil change interval
Used supertech synthetic in my town car wasn't happy with it , but used it in my chrysler 200 and loved it in it. Ultimately took 3 types of oil to find what I felt was best for the town car. Then again I used "walmart brand" oil in my grand marquis before i sold it. Never used a Supertech filter as atleast in my local walmart they're either out or look like they were used to play baseball in the back of the store. Personally have always used the motorcraft filter on my panther platforms ,but have been looking into Amsoil and their filter so can't wait to see how that goes in your Town Car.
Looked up just who makes those super tech filters, "Who makes SuperTech oil filters? SuperTech oil filters are made in the USA by Champion Labs. They are manufactured in six different states through the collaboration of Wix and Walmart. Their prices range from $2.97 to $4.27 per filter and have a service life of around 30,000 miles."
good info. I have started using marvel mystery oil in my 150 4.2 v6 engine. It has started using a little oil so I changed it and am using Pennzoil platinum 5w30 with 1 pint of MMO in it. engine runs very smooth and quiet. I don't know how long I will keep it in there but will keep a sharp eye on it. Engine doesn't have but 91,000 k on it so thought this would be a good time to use MMO in it a clean it up.
Its amazing to see the amount of crap that the filter caught after 375 miles! I am going to use MMO when my car ends up having about 150,000 miles on it. I do regular oil changes but figure at 150,000 miles a good flush with MMO will be a good thing, thanks for the tip!
Don't forget to change the filter often, maybe more than the oil. If that sucker plugs up from the crud it will bypass and treat your bearings to unfiltered oil full of crud that might destroy it.
My brother has been a GM and Ford technician for 30 years and he swears by Marvel mystery oil for cleaning up old engines that have numerous miles and every time you buy the used car he does an oil change and includes Marvel mystery oil in it right away and all of his cars have lasted hundreds of thousands of miles without any problems. I'm just surprised that more mechanics don't use the stuff or think it's Snakeoil.
I see amazing results with this in traditional V-8's with pushrods and I'm guessing carburetors, or throttle body injection. I'm wondering how this would work in my Honda V-6, with and OHC set up, and GDI?
My grandfather in the '60s used marvel mystery oil he was a machinist his whole life will the 60s is when I was knee-high to him and he had the metal cans everything that he said about MMO was true I flushed an engine back in the 70s 80s I could not believe what came out of it it's truly amazing stuff you can use this stuff on your sewing machine thanks for sharing the video be safe peace to you and yours and all
Looking good. It seems like it is something that you would have to stay on top of when you start the process. I wonder how many guys damaged their engines by waiting until the next oil change because of how well it is working. I can see a really dirty engine clogging a tight filter up. It would explain why some of them say not to use Marvel because it will destroy your engine.
@@bobdylan9117 - why buy such a dirty Turd to begin with? 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ I usually seek out one owner garage kept cars to buy. Sure you pay a bit more but the car is MINT and properly maintained where you don’t NEED to play chemist with oil additives in hopes of cleaning anything up. Lol.
If MMO destroyed engines the company would have been sued out of existence years ago. Remember, MMO has been around since 1923. I dare say that MMO was not the culprit that destroyed "some of them's" engines; MMO will not improve a mechanically damaged engine. Back in the 70's we used to put a little varsol in the engine right before changing the oil/filter, run it for half a minute or so, then change the oil/filter. Worked great for combating sludge build up from conventional 10w30 oil. I've been using MMO in cars and lawn mowers since the 70's and never had an engine fail from poor oil circulation/lubrication, nor develop a ticking valve or knocking connecting rod. Just lucky I guess.....
XG OF's "were" high quality. First Brands eliminated the 2 layer Full Synthetic "microglass" media and wire backing. Now a thin layer of synthetic media, backed by a cellulose/blend layer. Total downgrade of filter, while keeping same price. Not from me.
Filter inspection tip, after cutting it like that, compress it all together like an accordion. Then stick it in your bench vise and squeeze more oil out with a pan under obviously. It makes it easier to see metal or other debris.
I'm good man I make so many videos and I do so much s*** as it is the more I have to keep adding to the process I'm which I do things just takes more time away from my day and I just don't have time for it I work for a living plus I have my own hobby shop and I put out videos on multiple platforms so if you would like to come work with me and start doing that type of stuff for me for free more than willing to let you do it but until then just sit tight and enjoy
Put 6 oz in fresh oil, and 2 oz in a half tank of gas. Took a short trip, by 40 miles I could tell the motor in a well maintained KIA Soul was quieter, and the motor ran smoother, especially at idle. Fuel economy went up.
This is a man who knows Marvel's Mystery. The stuff plain works. My Dad always used it in his lawn & garden tractor. It went about 45 years of use until he finally rebuilt the engine. He always put the MMO in the gas tank. I've used it in the oil of my older higher tolerance engines and in the fuel of all of my vehicles. It keeps everything clean and running smooth. Good stuff.👍
I use them Fram Ultra Synthetic filters exclusively with my vehicle. Seems to work really well. I've no complaints. I don't know if there is a problem with them as many usually shit on Fram, and while yes some of their other filters are pure garbo, this one seems good.
I think the problem with the Fram filters is the light duty construction inside. For normal around town use it's probably OK but if they get plugged up from crud the cardboard ends might let loose. I would prefer to use the OEM filter or one with a bit more durable construction inside. I've used Frams for many yeas without issue on old cars but on my power stroke and Mazda i use the Motorcraft filter designed for it. Fram might out just fine but I hope to nurse all the life outta these vehicles ASAP.
If you ever come across another dirty engine, I’m curious as to how well adding diesel or kerosene and running it for about fifteen min at idle before draining. Replace the filter adding the fuel then do the flush and compare filters
Great set of videos on the subject! I've been a Supertech oil and filter user for the past 8 years based on researching independent testing labs data and CZcamsrs like you that perform real world test. Keep putting out the good information. Knowledge always beats rumors!
Bought my used 2014 ram w/5.7L at 70k. I always replace 1qt with mmo at every change. Truck has never used oil. Cold startup at 215k oil change was still bout 60 psi. That stuff is amazing. And yeah, no oil leaks either.
I had bought a used 1970 Buick LaSabre 2dr 350cid, it had a factory installed MMO injection system, that ran at startup. It was a nice car still in the 1990's when I got it. Wish I never sold it now.
Just remember all that crap caught in the filter went thru the oil pickup screen then the oil pump. It would be useful to use a bore scope to check the oil pick up screen to make sure it isn't getting clogged with the trash that has been moved to the oil pan from the mmo. Just a suggestion. I have no idea how hard it would be to pull the oil pan to clean the screen. Glad it is running so much better
good observation, I would expect that stop/start cycles would allow the screen to dump its load into the pan at least for the larger particles that would be caught. Older engines generally had a pretty large mesh screen so probability of a plug up seems remote? But the down side to all this is that the oil has become a reservoir of abrasive particles, kind a damned if you do damned it you don't situation. It is a different world now in automotive sense, in the early days of non detergent oils they were designed to cause sludge build up and thus capture abrasive particles in the sludge and you dared not use anything to dissolve the sludge.
Hey, i took your advice on looking at tires at walmart, and man was i surprised! They got a set of Cooper Discoverers for 444$. Everywhere else im looking is at least 600$
Man you need to get you a samsung I got the s20 f.e. and the cam on it isn't as good as the regular s20 but it does awesome. Not a apple fan but their cameras are above average. I'll have to try this on my LS 6.0 I'd say I would have same results but got to change the fan clutch first it's FUBAR. Thanks for the content brother
I've personally been using Supertech full synthetic oil in all of the cars I've owned over the last 22 years. 5 Fords and a Chevy and have never had an oil related issue with any of them and going 250-350K. I use the regular 10,000 mile blend and change it every 6 months. I know I have saved a ton of money buying it instead of big name oil.
Seeing all that carbon in the filter for the 2nd time in a row is really impressive. I'd like to hear from anyone who uses MMO in a Chevy 5.3L that has AFM (2007-2014 I think). I'm just curious if it could work this well in those engines too, with that fragile valvetrain. I do use MMO in my gas, and I gain a couple MPG from it. But I haven't gotten brave enough to put it in the oil yet. I get 3k oil changes at the dealership, which I think uses Mobil 1 Synthetic.
Hope you don’t get a large enough chunk to catch in a valve or something. Will you eventually drop the oil pan to see what’s on the bottom of it? Be nice to see what’s floating around in there b
As a mechanic you should know that a Fram oil filter is probably the worst oil filter you can use on your vehicle.
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Regular frams aren’t that great but the higher grade ones are pretty good.
And yet they work just fine. I have a Toyota Camry that has been using Fram and Super Tech E-Core filters for 20 years. Normally buy them on clearance for $1.50 or less!
@@MitzvosGolem1 good marketing?
My father-in-law, A tool engineer for Westinghouse, swore by this stuff.. It REALLY works! Had a 79 honda with 125,000 miles on the engine.
Did a rebuild and the mechanic said the heads looked like brand new! Use in oil and gas....
I have used Marvel Mystery oil as a gas and oil treatment since I found out about it when I was a kid back in the late 50's. I used it in all small engines and later in every car I have owned since. Great for keeping them all running smooth.
I think the results about speak for themselves. Appreciate the effort to educate us. Might have to pick up some marvel mystery after this showing.
Glad you've discovered MMO benefits. Personally I've used it too. My Dad showed me what MMO will do with engines fifty years ago. Oil or gasoline, hydraulic lifters magically rejuvenate after a bath. Piston rings do what they're supposed to do. Flexing and sealing. MMO poured down caburetors clean intakes. In the oil, PVC valves clean up too. Watch a vaccuum guage before and after appling MMO. A sticky hydraulic lifter showing up on a vacuum guage will clear up. Diesel fuel injectors will clean up too. Lots more to say. ....
My dad swore by Marvel , and we used nothing else in our air tools for as long as I can remember . A quart to about every oil change is great . And I too love the smell of Marvel .
I cant thank you enough for all this work. The content is great and the demonstration is amazing.
About a month ago I bought a 2002 Chevrolet Tracker 2.0L engine in San Antonio, Texas that was stated it burned/ leaked a little oil. I noticed it was down 1/2 a quart so I topped it off with 29 ounces of MMO and 8 ounces in the gas tank. Then I drove the 260 mile trip home at about 65mph all the way. 70 miles later I topped off the gas tank and it was running much smoother. Sunday I changed the oil that was a golden color on Tuesday and it came out pitch black. I put Supertech high mileage synthetic oil back in the motor along with NGK Iridium spark plugs and the difference was night and day. Now no more oil burning or leaks. That little Suzuki J20A engine just needed some TLC. Marvel Mystery oil really is the fountain of youth for engines.
Hey bro don't forget that you can use MMO in you gas tank ! I've used it in my 4 stroke dirt bikes and it kept the valves and the piston spotless 👍
Really isn't the best thing long term on your cat though.
I'm impressed how this stuff actually cleans piston oil rings if you really are consuming less or no oil.
oil does
MMO unsticks rings which is likely what happened hence less oil burn.
It's a naptha based oil , naptha is a cleaner.
So it's a cleaning oil basically.
And the wintergreen smell is real wintergreen oil to make it smell nice.
One of the last few products that keeps aircraft valves from sticking in their guides.
The guy over at "project farm" does a really good job in my opinion of testing all sorts of things, especially oil. After seeing him testing supertech that's what I run in all my motors. 😎
Hes good indeed
Lol I switched to penzoil platinum for the same reason 😂 I got the new Ford ranger and I liked how little evaporative loss I saw on there
@@FordBossMe i've used supertech conventional oil for years and have never had an engine problem caused by the cheap oil ,,i an going to try the synthetic oil and marvel mystery oil in my 2001 chevy Tahoe it has 300,000 miles on the 5.3 it has in it ,, i have used marvel mystery oil for 25 years and my grandfather used it before me
Super tech is pretty good oil from what I've seen also, but fram oil filter is junk.
@@scottyellis3442 yea I just use the motocraft for my truck
Thanks for the great updates on this. You have sold me on giving MMO a try. Looking forward to seeing how it looks next week.
I absolutely love this channel and the way you explain everything in detail
I’ve been sold on Super Tech oil and chemicals for about 5 years now. They have been working perfectly for me.
Great stuff
Ever use supertech's version of wd40? It's just as good and less than half the price !
@@Derek8487 , yes ! Good Stuff!
I noticed SuperTech aerosol cans are the exact same as CRC Chemical cans. It's possible that they're unrelated, but I suspect CRC is the OEM for a lot of it, and I've always had good luck with CRC products. The SuperTech carb cleaner and spray lube work as well as anything else I've used and at this point I have a good amount of trust in SuperTech branded stuff being from high quality OEMs.
@@treelineresearch3387, I can see Walmart with their tremendous buying power going to a company like CRC to have chemicals made for them. All SuperTech products sell extremely well and perform just as well as the name brand products.
Cleaned a hell of a lot of crap out of the engine in that filter, I am so impressed with the amount and proof is great that it does work. Think it worth every penny/dime spent and you say that the improvement in the engine is noticeable afterwards. Good video thanks for sharing your results 👍👍
I’m currently resurrecting a 1989 Chevy with a 454 and I’ll be adding Marvel Mystery Oil because of your videos. 👍🏻
I have used SuperTech Full Synthetic oil in my engines for a very long time. Never an issue. Great stuff.
True, nothing wrong with Super Tech oil,, especially the full synthetic.Otoh, MMO nothing but snake oil. Run a quality oil with a good filter, at manufacturer intervals, all you'll ever need.
Ford Boss Me - Thank you for staying late after work to do this for us !! I really appreciate all the content you have taken your time to do for us !
You're doing a fabulous job with all of this! I had seen metal cans of Marvel Mystery Oil back when I was a kid over 60 years ago and always wondered about it..
Now I know so much more and see how good it can do in some applications..
Keep up the great work ! It is much appreciated !
Thank your Family for sharing you with all of us ..
God Bless and prayers of Faith for you and yours..
Fran Danco
This is a great project to follow. Good information and interesting seeing the results as it progresses.
Thanks for what you do and bringing the real world stuff rite to us. You spend your time and effort to bring us all good info.
Enjoying your posts on your experiment. I installed the intake pan on a 318 c.I. Ram I had. I had to run premium gas with octane boost to keep it from spark knocking and it was eating oil. Immediately after installing the intake valley pan no oil burning, regular gas, and better mileage. You will be glad you did it. Three hours for me probably two for you. Good luck.
Wow now I'm definitely sold on MMO! Going to do this to my car! Thanks for the update!
You need to open up an oil filter from a random oil change in the shop. I’d be interested to see the comparison of debris from another motor that hasn’t had the mmo in it. Just for comparison
Appreciate your commitment after a hard day's work. I've done mechanic work, tried to do it for a living, worked on English cars back in the seventies, decided I'd rather do it as a hobby. Been in the Buick Gran Sport Club of America for almost 3 decades. Props to your mechanical mind, and work ethic, you have a God-given talent, for sure.
Great idea. Yrs back I had a customer with a Durango with a 5.2 I think. With a low no oil pressure issue. After a new sender and new svc advisor oil pump. Same issue.
Spoke to customer and we did a regimen of 1k oil changes with 1540 Rotella. He did do lots of hiway miles. And after 6 Mos and 4k oil pressure was better than new and that engine was cleaner than factree. . But your milage may vary
Thanks for making these videos. Keep up the great work !!!!!
WOW thanks for the update. Been meaning to watch one of these videos from your channel. Someone mentioned recently that the containers for the advanced full synthetic super tech no longer have wpp stamped on the bottom. I know Warren produces Mobil 1, but I bet the new super tech is now rebranded Mobil 1.
That was really really impressive. Thanks for sharing this video. Hope you get to decompress this weekend.
Smells great out the 2 stroke outboard. The old 300 loves it too a little bit in the oil and gas runs smooth keeps everything lubed/clean.
Thanks for the update. Keep up the good work!
Is looking better now you can really tell MMO is doing a good job , another great video
Studies have showed that supertech is actually very good oil for the price. Not much difference from some mobil 1
This statement is true, it was some 3rd party whom was curious.
All oils are API rated so they All do the same freakin thing at the end of the day. A couple PPM difference in additives from one maker to another doesn’t do jack except slide by patents to avoid lawsuits. It’s all a joke. Oil is oil unless it’s actual TRUE synthetic.
Project Farm tested super tech and it is fantastic oil. Their filters are good too.
Also agree but I'll never cool enough to tell people I use Walmart oil lol
Supertech walmart oil is plenty good enough...especially if you do a 3k or 5k oci
My daughter’s 95 Miata had a lifter tick. She put in about 12 oz of MMO two weeks before we changed the oil/filter. The old oil was pretty dark. After putting in new oil and driving around a bit, there is absolutely no lifter tick. We’ll do the same routine a couple more times to be sure. The NA Miatas are known for getting ticking lifters.
I run the mmo currently for the entire oci in my 95 5.9 12v cummins dodge 2500 with cheap 15w40 conventional and a good napa filter and it runs phenomenal.
Looking cleaner! Impressed with how much carbon is being loosened by the Marvel Mystery oil. I know you are curious about seeing what is coming out of the engine. Thanks for taking the time to share with us anxious to see the next video.
I always look forward to your videos !! Thanks.
I really like your videos a lot I like your testing methods it really shows what the MMO seems to have cleaned out of the engine. I always question how these products work. I may start using it in my engine oil again. Thinking maybe I will use it for a couple hundred miles before the oil changes as a flush and maybe only in the cold season in case the thinning of the oil would be bad during the hot season just my thought.
I use marvel mystery oil in my fuel but was always hesitant for additives in oil. Thanks for all of the great videos, appreciate it!
So was I until I ran stiction eliminator once in my common rail Cummins! Toss half a quart in every third oil change after the initial flush, thing idles like a Honda
You should try Oxytane in your fuel.... Vast improvement in the Air Release properties in the fuel in the tank
I’am with you. I use amsoil and mmo in my gas. This is what I will use in my 2022 corvette
Thank you so much for this! Your videos are always awesome!
Super Tech full synthetic is a good product and worked well in my 5.7 hemi, but what I found is that the hemi burned it off at a higher rate than I expected (not at an alarming rate thou, but it caught my eye). I switched to Valvoline full synthetic and the difference in burn-off rate was much less than supertech (1/4 Qt. vs 1 Qt. every 3,500 miles). Btw, I'm sold on MMO - it's a great product!
In testing supertech oil has a higher burn off rate.
I use Castrol Edge High Mileage Full Synthetic Oil an Purolator Boss oil filter on my Ram 2500 4/4 HEMI 5.7 it's a Great Combination" I have 120,600 miles on my Truck/Hemi
It's been said that Pennzoil Platinum / Ultra Platinum has a very low " burn off rate " .
Show us the dirt! This is a good demo of MMO and what it can be used for. I mix some in with the gas for my 4 stroke lawnmower,
now I think I will add some to the crankcase two weeks before I change the oil.
I've used MMO for years...... and for soOOoooo many things. Even taking rust off old chrome. Very good stuff.
You convinced to throw a quart into my accord. I’m 124 miles into the new oil change. Motor just hit 144k so it’s well over due for some cleaning. I’m excited to see the results.Thanks again for the content.
Any difference?
A good friend of mine a long time ago (he is now deceased), worked at the Lima Engine Plant (Lima, Ohio) at the time the 428 Super Cobra Jets were being assembled. He told me something I haven't forgotten for over 40-years...that on a NEW ENGINE (of that day, regardless of the manufacturer), with tight tolerances, THE BEST ENGINE OIL, bar-NONE, was MERCON/DEXRON III transmission fluid! In reality, all MMO is, is Mercon/Dexron III with a higher detergent load and some extra lubricant polymers...he told me, that in 'never-released' Ford testing, that they saw TWICE the lifespan of machine surfaces in engines that NEVER saw oil, but instead, were kept on the 'transmission fluid diet' all their life! He said it was NOT strange to get 240,000 to 350,000 miles between rebuilds of a 302 when treated as such. He said that after initial break-in (which was done on 10-W-30 equivalent, to allow proper ring and valve seating to 500-miles), filter cut-downs showed far less metal loss than a comparable engine kept on motor oil.
Why was this 'never promoted' to end customers? Simple...'plan for obsolescence'...that's where C-6's went away, as did GM's Turbo-Hydramatic 400 transmissions. There was a formal release by GM on the TH-400 transmission life-story, actually...starting life with an expectancy of 400,000 miles between 'friction disk replacements', they were not getting 'sufficient replacement demands' to sell replacement transmissions, so they began a 'MTBF test' (mean-time between failures), and when they saw that the transmission was outlasting the car, the engine, etc., they started 'removing robust parts' and replacing them with lighter materials, polymers, etc. to the point that the TH-400 ended with a 270,000 mile MTBF life. When they saw it was this high still, they moved the transmission model to availability only in their TRUCK line. It only returned (in a very 'new' form) as the 4L80 many years later...located behind 400+ horsepower musclecars.
I don't know about compatibility with 'new electronic engines', but my 1-Ton Chevy K-30 has a 400-small block in it, almost 300,000 miles on it...and has never ran a single oil change on motor oil...ONLY Dexron III transmission fluid...passing through a Mobile-1 filter...the best filter on the market (only comparable to the Royal Purple brand...which, incidentally, is made by the same company)...GREAT for older engines, due to the backflow valve design!
If you rebuild a new motor...double its life from the start...Mobile-1 filters, and DEXRON III...you'll thank yourself for it!
Interesting I have heard of people running trans fluid to clean an engine i have never actually tried it. I was worried it was a lie and it would destroy an engine...
God help us all
Marvel Mystery oil is approaching its 100th birthday. It was originally composed primarily of mineral oil, that was the highest percentage of byproducts resulting in oil refining. It contains mineral spirits so often used by painters but in less percentage than you've placed in the oil of the Dodge. It possesses good striping properties because it contains both ortho and para dichlorobenzene. It uses an extreme pressure lubricant named tricresyl phosphate where phosphorus holds three methyl-benzene units at the bottom of its tetrahedral unit with a very polar (charged) oxygen atom pointing up. That percentage can be claimed to be as high as 1%.
I personally would change out the Marvel Mystery Oil and motor oil combination at your 1200 mile mark and refresh that mix and run it again if needed. I think it wise to pull that filter when you did as a microscope view of the material in the Fram would show pores dramatically blocked off.
Keep in mind Marvel Mystery Oil has a low flash point and will burn like crazy.
Love the detail in your video
I like these real world tests, keep it up
that is just astounding how MMO cleans out the engine. I've seen the videos where MMO cuts down wear and cleans at the same time. My uncle always added it to his oil and I have used it on older engines, but here is the really amazing thing - this stuff was invented in 1923!
I didn't know you could use Marvel Mystery Oil for cleaning an engine like that but that's really neat. I learned something new today.
I bought a f150 v6 with 240k miles . Changed the oil full synthetic . The oil filter cloged in 1 thousand miles. Did a change and flush that got me 2 thousand miles .
Third oil change got me 2700 miles. Stedaly cleaning itself out. Marvel is a super way to clean an engine. So is automatic transmission fluid as it has high detergent proportys.
I as a auto technician i appreciate your chanel your doing a great service.
Rich, since I switched to Super Tech 5W20 in my Mustang It appears to run just as well if not better than the Mobil 1 I always used. I checked all the additives on both containers and they are the same and to boot I save a lot of money. I still use a WIX filter as I find these perfect for my application. My owners manual recommends 10,000 mile change on the 10 quart fill. There is no way in hell I would ever go 10,000 miles before a change.
You had me at oil consumption plus the sut in the filter is amazing for only 300 miles
Don't let the hate get to you you will never win just keep doing what makes you happy I appreciate the videos, if you compress the filter media in a vice it will push the ould out but keep the junk stuck it makes it easy to see worth a shot
I get it and if I was just solely doing CZcams I would put more time into doing stuff like that but I only have so much time in a day and I have to focus my efforts in specific areas and if I had every little thing people suggest I would never really have time for my regular job
😆 I have a busted up LG phone screen need to replace had a Samsung before was debating. Thanks for the phone input.
Running MMO on my friends Traverse sounds a lot better.
Going to run it for July then change.
Great 👍 video
Army AL
That stuff works and keeps working. Nice video
this might help those new vehicles with oil actuated vvt systems and 10 000 km recommended service intervals
Yes it would. A lot more can go wrong with them then just a sticky lifter.
This is really really neat to see on an almost daily rate, the process of the sludge and carbon being released. Have a couple 15+ year old cars, will definitely try out the MMO.
Great videos, thanks man! I was super skeptical of MMO because these additives always claim they fix everything.
It smells good too. I have been using Marvel in the oil and gas for 15 years. I put half quart in the oil, the other in the tank along with some Lucas, if nothing else for lubrication. You want to see spark plugs look like new? put some Marvel in the plug holes and let it run. It will smoke for quite awhile but the plug will look clean as new. I also have used Supertech filters for 20 years, great cheap filters. My Walmart does not sell them anymore sadly so I had to find another brand, and the Quakerstate filters are just as good at Menards, but sadly those have also disappeared.
Great video, keep up the good work!
Not a fun of fram filters at all, but for cleaning the engine they will work just fine.
OEM filters and aftermarket is wix
Is my choice.
Well this is one of the high-end synthetic ones it's not the fiber and ones that people talk trash about but really aren't that bad anyway it's just got a bad rep because people like to blame the oil filter and not their oil change interval
This is a great test to see what really happens ! Thanks ! Now we know !
Glad to see you’re using the Marvel mystery oil!
I think that is the only thing on the market to get that carbon buildup on continuous basis. 👍
And it keeps on cleaning......slow and steady. Diggin that filter cutter.
You are a braver man than I. I'll use some MMM for about 50-80 miles before a change, and that makes me nervous.
Used supertech synthetic in my town car wasn't happy with it , but used it in my chrysler 200 and loved it in it. Ultimately took 3 types of oil to find what I felt was best for the town car. Then again I used "walmart brand" oil in my grand marquis before i sold it. Never used a Supertech filter as atleast in my local walmart they're either out or look like they were used to play baseball in the back of the store. Personally have always used the motorcraft filter on my panther platforms ,but have been looking into Amsoil and their filter so can't wait to see how that goes in your Town Car.
Looked up just who makes those super tech filters, "Who makes SuperTech oil filters? SuperTech oil filters are made in the USA by Champion Labs. They are manufactured in six different states through the collaboration of Wix and Walmart. Their prices range from $2.97 to $4.27 per filter and have a service life of around 30,000 miles."
good info. I have started using marvel mystery oil in my 150 4.2 v6 engine. It has started using a little oil so I changed it and am using Pennzoil platinum 5w30 with 1 pint of MMO in it. engine runs very smooth and quiet. I don't know how long I will keep it in there but will keep a sharp eye on it. Engine doesn't have but 91,000 k on it so thought this would be a good time to use MMO in it a clean it up.
Its amazing to see the amount of crap that the filter caught after 375 miles! I am going to use MMO when my car ends up having about 150,000 miles on it. I do regular oil changes but figure at 150,000 miles a good flush with MMO will be a good thing, thanks for the tip!
Don't forget to change the filter often, maybe more than the oil. If that sucker plugs up from the crud it will bypass and treat your bearings to unfiltered oil full of crud that might destroy it.
Recently found you channel man. Digging the videos 👌
Hell ya dude
I've been using Supertech oil for years with no issues. I'm happy with it and the price is great.
My brother has been a GM and Ford technician for 30 years and he swears by Marvel mystery oil for cleaning up old engines that have numerous miles and every time you buy the used car he does an oil change and includes Marvel mystery oil in it right away and all of his cars have lasted hundreds of thousands of miles without any problems. I'm just surprised that more mechanics don't use the stuff or think it's Snakeoil.
I see amazing results with this in traditional V-8's with pushrods and I'm guessing carburetors, or throttle body injection. I'm wondering how this would work in my Honda V-6, with and OHC set up, and GDI?
My grandfather in the '60s used marvel mystery oil he was a machinist his whole life will the 60s is when I was knee-high to him and he had the metal cans everything that he said about MMO was true I flushed an engine back in the 70s 80s I could not believe what came out of it it's truly amazing stuff you can use this stuff on your sewing machine thanks for sharing the video be safe peace to you and yours and all
the real question is whats in that sump and pick up
Great video again.
Looking good. It seems like it is something that you would have to stay on top of when you start the process. I wonder how many guys damaged their engines by waiting until the next oil change because of how well it is working. I can see a really dirty engine clogging a tight filter up. It would explain why some of them say not to use Marvel because it will destroy your engine.
@@bobdylan9117 - why buy such a dirty Turd to begin with? 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
I usually seek out one owner garage kept cars to buy. Sure you pay a bit more but the car is MINT and properly maintained where you don’t NEED to play chemist with oil additives in hopes of cleaning anything up. Lol.
@@I_know_what_im_talking_about Every engine builds up crud eventually. And not everyone can afford a mint condition single owner car.
I used it once and an 85 station wagon with a 305 with 187,000 mi on it after I put it in I spun on bearing not long afterwards
If MMO destroyed engines the company would have been sued out of existence years ago. Remember, MMO has been around since 1923. I dare say that MMO was not the culprit that destroyed "some of them's" engines; MMO will not improve a mechanically damaged engine. Back in the 70's we used to put a little varsol in the engine right before changing the oil/filter, run it for half a minute or so, then change the oil/filter. Worked great for combating sludge build up from conventional 10w30 oil. I've been using MMO in cars and lawn mowers since the 70's and never had an engine fail from poor oil circulation/lubrication, nor develop a ticking valve or knocking connecting rod. Just lucky I guess.....
Thanks for the update. Real world in field testing. Those FRAM XG filters are well built and high quality.
XG OF's "were" high quality. First Brands eliminated the 2 layer Full Synthetic "microglass" media and wire backing. Now a thin layer of synthetic media, backed by a cellulose/blend layer. Total downgrade of filter, while keeping same price. Not from me.
Filter inspection tip, after cutting it like that, compress it all together like an accordion. Then stick it in your bench vise and squeeze more oil out with a pan under obviously. It makes it easier to see metal or other debris.
I'm good man I make so many videos and I do so much s*** as it is the more I have to keep adding to the process I'm which I do things just takes more time away from my day and I just don't have time for it I work for a living plus I have my own hobby shop and I put out videos on multiple platforms so if you would like to come work with me and start doing that type of stuff for me for free more than willing to let you do it but until then just sit tight and enjoy
I like the way you show and talk about all
Nice, keep it up!
The impressive thing is what the filter caught in so little miles
Put 6 oz in fresh oil, and 2 oz in a half tank of gas. Took a short trip, by 40 miles I could tell the motor in a well maintained KIA Soul was quieter, and the motor ran smoother, especially at idle. Fuel economy went up.
This is a man who knows Marvel's Mystery. The stuff plain works. My Dad always used it in his lawn & garden tractor. It went about 45 years of use until he finally rebuilt the engine. He always put the MMO in the gas tank. I've used it in the oil of my older higher tolerance engines and in the fuel of all of my vehicles. It keeps everything clean and running smooth. Good stuff.👍
Supertech is great stuff. Thats all I run. In old or new cars. Its a super underrated oil.
I use them Fram Ultra Synthetic filters exclusively with my vehicle. Seems to work really well. I've no complaints. I don't know if there is a problem with them as many usually shit on Fram, and while yes some of their other filters are pure garbo, this one seems good.
I think the problem with the Fram filters is the light duty construction inside. For normal around town use it's probably OK but if they get plugged up from crud the cardboard ends might let loose. I would prefer to use the OEM filter or one with a bit more durable construction inside. I've used Frams for many yeas without issue on old cars but on my power stroke and Mazda i use the Motorcraft filter designed for it. Fram might out just fine but I hope to nurse all the life outta these vehicles ASAP.
Guess you found out why LG is getting out of the phone business. Hope you have a restful weekend and keep this series going.
If you ever come across another dirty engine, I’m curious as to how well adding diesel or kerosene and running it for about fifteen min at idle before draining. Replace the filter adding the fuel then do the flush and compare filters
Great set of videos on the subject! I've been a Supertech oil and filter user for the past 8 years based on researching independent testing labs data and CZcamsrs like you that perform real world test. Keep putting out the good information. Knowledge always beats rumors!
Bought my used 2014 ram w/5.7L at 70k. I always replace 1qt with mmo at every change. Truck has never used oil. Cold startup at 215k oil change was still bout 60 psi. That stuff is amazing. And yeah, no oil leaks either.
I'm really curious how that pan looks.. any chance you can drop the pan as soon as you're done with the marvel mystery stuff?
The remaned 3208 cat diesels came with MMO mixed with factory spec oil for break in, though never knew the ratio.
I had bought a used 1970 Buick LaSabre 2dr 350cid, it had a factory installed MMO injection system, that ran at startup. It was a nice car still in the 1990's when I got it. Wish I never sold it now.
Just remember all that crap caught in the filter went thru the oil pickup screen then the oil pump. It would be useful to use a bore scope to check the oil pick up screen to make sure it isn't getting clogged with the trash that has been moved to the oil pan from the mmo. Just a suggestion. I have no idea how hard it would be to pull the oil pan to clean the screen. Glad it is running so much better
good observation, I would expect that stop/start cycles would allow the screen to dump its load into the pan at least for the larger particles that would be caught. Older engines generally had a pretty large mesh screen so probability of a plug up seems remote? But the down side to all this is that the oil has become a reservoir of abrasive particles, kind a damned if you do damned it you don't situation. It is a different world now in automotive sense, in the early days of non detergent oils they were designed to cause sludge build up and thus capture abrasive particles in the sludge and you dared not use anything to dissolve the sludge.
Hey, i took your advice on looking at tires at walmart, and man was i surprised! They got a set of Cooper Discoverers for 444$. Everywhere else im looking is at least 600$
Ever think of trying Valvoline high mileage oil? I use that with a acdelco oil filter in my 98 Silverado 5.7 with some Lucas oil stabilizer.
Man you need to get you a samsung I got the s20 f.e. and the cam on it isn't as good as the regular s20 but it does awesome. Not a apple fan but their cameras are above average. I'll have to try this on my LS 6.0 I'd say I would have same results but got to change the fan clutch first it's FUBAR. Thanks for the content brother
I've personally been using Supertech full synthetic oil in all of the cars I've owned over the last 22 years. 5 Fords and a Chevy and have never had an oil related issue with any of them and going 250-350K. I use the regular 10,000 mile blend and change it every 6 months. I know I have saved a ton of money buying it instead of big name oil.
Seeing all that carbon in the filter for the 2nd time in a row is really impressive. I'd like to hear from anyone who uses MMO in a Chevy 5.3L that has AFM (2007-2014 I think). I'm just curious if it could work this well in those engines too, with that fragile valvetrain. I do use MMO in my gas, and I gain a couple MPG from it. But I haven't gotten brave enough to put it in the oil yet. I get 3k oil changes at the dealership, which I think uses Mobil 1 Synthetic.
Delete the afm asap
Dodge tech from 1995-2012. Those engines were cam in block greatness....Keeping the transmissions together was the real problem.
Just bought a new trans and rebuilding the old one
Hope you don’t get a large enough chunk to catch in a valve or something. Will you eventually drop the oil pan to see what’s on the bottom of it? Be nice to see what’s floating around in there b
Great 👍. Job!!!!
Your a good mechanic.
Al
Tyvm
@@FordBossMe id like to have my Dodge fixed by you.
Keep up the great work 👍