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Overkill for a Mobile DJ????
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Not really (if you know how to use it properly). I bought one a year ago and it has been one of the best purchases I have ever made for my sound system. Wonderful eq and crossover, excellent limiters to protect my speakers and the automatic feedback suppressor is a killer feature.
I agree. Big emphasis on the if you know how to use it properly.
Not overkill, the driveracks are one of the best in the market for eq and stuff
I love them! Have 4. I do use all of the processors within the unit. The auto eq works very good for eq-ing the room as a startup mix. Also makes up gain for my controllers which don’t really have enough. Feedback suppression is money!
DJ Rick Web I don’t think it’s overkill. I use it because it’s got auto EQ, and crossover. It does make your speakers sound better because the driverack will EQ the room.
I think it’s the best tool
Extremely helpful. I bought one and used your config and I never had my Yamahas sound soo crisp and clear. Love it. I have the DXR15mkII, dzr15, dxs18 to name my big ones.
Thank you. I’ve had mine for about 2 years and finally a video showing me how to set it up properly. I still need to learn about the bells and whistles but you definitely helped me out big time!
I have been watching your videos for awhile. You are not only knowledgeable, you are easy to follow along with. I just bought one of these this week. This video will help make sense on how to set it up. Looking forward to your next video on the other settings of the driverack pa 2.
I own both DBX driverack PA2 and venu360 and luv them. Both units are a huge leap forward into speaker management over the driverack260. On top of it not expensive! I highly recommend this unit for anyone putting together a PA system.
Gosh I’ve been waiting for this for years!!!! Thank you so much for making this video!
Hey Rick, nice video, very clear and you explained everything great.
I just picked up that unit and your video will be very helpful to me.
Thank you for Taking the time to make this video.
Peace.
Dude, I've been pulling my hair out trying to reduce the output gain. Thanks to you now I see you can control it with a combo of the compressor and the limiter.🤟
Hey Rick, Your video was a huge help in setting my PA2 up. I'm super busy and didn't have the time to read all the details. But your way throught made it so i can install this in a venue and adjust as needed...Great Video!!!!
Great job! , this helps so much I’ve been using mind for a bit now but this is great! Thank you !
Thanks Rick..this is a great post..I substitute the The Subs to Mids..now I can use the Low output for monitors..either in stereo or Left/ mono..perfect for karaoke shows 👍👍
pretty damn comprehensive explanation. Thank you very much for this upload dude. I'm gonna bookmark it for whenever i get my hands on one of those.
I do own 2 of these dbx DriveRacks as well in my appartment. One in my living room 19” rack, and one in my 12 RU Gator Road case in my bedroom. I use a Mackie 1604VLZ-4 main mixer, on my desk, & a Denon Professional 10 channel rack mount mixer with Bluetooth built in, for my bedroom tv audio mixer. I like the Blue LCD screen on the face of the system so I could customize my name and location on it. In my hometown, we use one dbx Driverack PA2 in a theatre downtown, at our major jr. hockey rink’s aux rink
Hey Rick, thanks for the video. In addition, I (and I'm sure other DJs who use the DBX PA2 DriveRack) are looking forward and would love to see videos explaining and detailing the other DriveRack features as well (ex. Anti-Feedback; setting up the RTA mic; etc.).
Has this been done yet? Trying to figure out the other features too! Lol
dj rick thank you for the video ! honestly spot on ! great job thank you ....
my system sounds great
Nice to see a Dj luse gear properly. The coolest thing about your full range hack is that I now can setup a delay stack halfway down the room. I have done this a few times with a separate delay device and it really makes a difference in a large or long caverness type of hall.
Mine came the other day-thanks for this video i love it!
Thanks Rick!! Great job on the video! I just bought one last week..
A bit of a late comment haha, I bought a driverack PA2 recently. Baring in mind that I am a begineer DJ/livesound/lighting engineer. In my opinion the price is just right for these speaker processors, so they aren't overkill, they're there to enhance your sound and bring it to the next level! 😄
Great Video Rick! Thank you for the info!
Thanks for awesome video, Job well done Rick!
DJ Rick, you’re awesome bro. Thanks a lot for making this video:)
It’s overkill. True, however it makes a system sound better especially when EQ is set to your liking. Also I’ve used the electronic crossover with larger systems like Cerwin Vega or JBLs. Love this video. Well done.
That’s what I did, today, Rick. I watched this video of your more then once, when out to Walmart and got a cheap router cause I own 3 of the dbx driverack units and I’m going to be using one tonight at my men’s hockey league
Thanks Rick, have 2 of these for years now but with your tips can now use them for delay tops instead of using the aux outs of our digital boards. If you work with bands, like we do, the other features are fantastic also. Keep up the good videos, even here in Brazil we watch you!
The PA 2 is a million times better than the original drive rack PA. The fact that the PA 2 can be controlled by a phone is fantastic; i sure wish my old drive rack PA could do that!
I'm running up and down stairs right now messing with a PA
Use the delay on the remote tops (mid channel) if they are a good distance away, to stop the the mains from clashing and sounding like chaos. Good if you have the tops outside or in another room.
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Hey Rick Best DriveRack explanation Video ever, finally working as it should thank you very much
tried other videos and none of them where that clear as yours
Great to hear
@@DJRickWeb hey i wann use 3 way speakers with this unit can it be done ?
Yes that's what it was designed for. 3 way output to amps powering the passive setup
@@DJRickWeb i m hooking up rcf ttl6a powered speakers to it and thanks for reply
Awesome tutorial, thanks. Buddy.
@DJRickWeb how would you configure the crossover for a pair of Bose F1 / 812 speaker setup?
Great video and very insightful thank you brother
It’s not really overkill you should have a limiter and eq and anti feedback on most systems and it’s nice to be able cut at around 30 to 50hz on subs it especially important to have feedback suppression so you can get a cleaner mic signal as you can put your gain higher. The dbx driver rack pa2 is worth it and setting deley between tops and subs can improve how natural the bass sounds and can stop the bass sounding detached from the rest of the music.
Hey Leo, I'd like to hear more about this and how you adjust your drive rack.
100% improve all kinds actually does make your subs and tops come alive. I just got dbx eq for now i can get more out of the sub
E di wow
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Dj web you are a nice teacher.i have learned alot.yes the video is so educative.thanks alot bro
Great Informative Video Thank You!!!
I have been in sound and light in high school and trade school i found that when playing Mexican music its a must need and not over kill
I need to get one, nice vid
dude you wayyyyyyyyy undersold that drive, especially subharmonic synthesis
Most professionally produced songs master the bass frequencies as mono even though the rest of it is stereo. Of course you could run the rig with subs on either side below your tops (which isn’t a good setup due to the uneven bass output pattern from the interference from spacing the subs apart laterally), but from my experience running live sound and djing and with audio engineering, I think it’s probably best to just let the DriveRack DSP sum the bass going to the subs to mono and send that to all subs to avoid any phase interference if songs are mixed differently.
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Awesome stuff. Just got a drive rack pa2. about to help my buddy set his up. He has been struggling.
nice one bro...from philippines here...thanks for this.
I have been using DBX driveracks, various models, for decades. One thing about the DB2 and Venu compared previous models is that they are more sensitive to brownouts than the previous models. If you are plugging into mains power and are using appropriate gauge wire, this won't be an issue, but if you're running on generators it's possible for bass hits to drop the input voltage and brownout the PA2 which will cause it to freeze or reboot. This can happen to the PA, PA+ and PX but they are far less sensitive. I only know this because I am often running sound systems on generator power.
To optimize signal to noise ratio, the signal path should be at unity all the way to the amps. The amps should be at the lowest possible gain for the desired output level. If you leave your amps at max gain before clipping it will amplify any noise along the signal path and introduce its own noise. If you use the minimum gain on the amp you avoid both noise sources (signal path + amp)
Unity, as in 0 on any mixers / gear in the chain prior to the amps, regardless of internal or external to the speaker?
Nicely done thank you😊
And it would be awesome if they would do an update and loads more speakers into it
Awesome video!
Hi rick - I just would like to use this with my 2 evolve 50 speakers I use an external mixer like yours also. I would like to try this unit out but keep it fairly simple . Don’t need external subs .What are your thoughts.
So I got two RCF 12’s how could I set it up since the tops connect to the subs? Thanks
Super helpful, thank you
Will you be making a part 2 to this? Still trying to learn the bells and whistles before the crossover part.
Thanks for this vid Sir Ric! Got my dbx driverack recently, but the thing is, I only have a single power amp for my 4 speaker box. Really appreciate if you could enlighten me on how to custom set-up may driverack... kudos!
nicely done!!!
We were able to use a LinkSys Router+WiFi, put it in wireless bridge mode so we can connect the rack to our other existing WiFi network. makes it even easier when going on-site vs. being at home.
Thank you very much for your video sir
Bro thats f*c*en good help bro for people like me that are a littlw bit new to this🙌🏻
I have 2 drive racks myself lol One for each controller case I have DDJ-SZ and DDJ-RZX :-)
Yes, it seems like overkill for a wedding DJ setup. However I helped do a 500 person monthly House, EDM music gig. So once we locked in the sound. It was easy to pull it up each time at the venue. The room auto EQ function is ok. I generally use it to get an idea of what might be wrong with the room. The great thing is that you can turn it off and tune the system by ear. The EQ does doo a good job on the lower end freqs.
I don't use the Feedback but that could be useful in somewhere like a church or a band.
I like setting an HP filter for the subs around 40 or 45HZ, -24db..
I do use the Compressor. I figure it might help save my gig from blowing out if there is an accident.
All in all, I feel as though better sound could be had with a DR.
The larger the system, the more I am tempted to use a DR.
I followed your steps on the driverack I guess I must of not been using it the right way lol Dam now i barely have to turn it up with all the crossover settings and don't even have to touch my highs knobs at all first time that has happened. Great instructions thanks. I did what you said and used not listed even though I do have the VRX tops and bottoms. :-)
Those vrx tops scream. And the amp is a beef on the powered ones. Pushed a +10 db gain signal to them and they didnt clip
@@DJRickWeb Yes they are LOUD!!!! lol I have to turn them down from the settings you recommended
I would say its not overkill for the mobile dj. Especially, if you know all the uses of each program. I’ve been using a Driverack Pa for a decade. Compressor/Limiter protects my Mackie Srm450 for blowing out. Subharmonic can make the bass sound better. Feedback Eliminator and EQ’s kills the feedback 😅and make your speakers sound better. Of course the uses of crossover And etc……
Good info man.
still useful - thanks!
I have the OverEasy settings completely OFF for both my highs and subs. They don't protect your amps from clipping as much when driven hard and pushes your SPL down.
thanks for an excellent video, I need help with one of my srx815p that is on when you power it up, but show proctection mode on the screen...
Thk you, learn alot
Would an 882i 2 channel Sonic Maximizer do about the same thing to your PA without all the complex screens and adjustments? What are your thoughts please.
Nice good Video i like your Videos
Thanks Dude!!!!!!
Good day , if your console deliver balance signal +4 DB you must set the driverack +4 DB , if you are sending unbalance signal to the driverack as your controller you must ser -10 db after that you have to set the gain structure.
Awesome and detailed video. Can you tell me how you downloaded the app onto your iPad? Did you download the app originally in 2018? I just attempted to download the app onto my MacBook Pro (Catalina OS) and my Samsung Galaxy S10 and it would not work with either because the DBX Driverack Pa2 app has not been updated for either. They also don't have any of the EV ETX, EKX, ELX or ZLX speakers or subwoofers in the system. Is there a way to program the EQs manually (since I don't have an App to do it)?
See previous reply I sent you. Last part I show you in this video how yo manual eq any speaker.
Thanks for the video. Been on CZcams for about week researching for my dj setup. It’s easy but complicated lol. I normally use two qsc 12.2 with two ksubs. But I’m doing a bigger venue and want to bring my two mackie sr1530z 3 way 15”. The problem with those speakers is they tend to overload. I didn’t want to Dailey chain them from my main setup. I think now by watching the video. I can get my older driverack pa+ to do what you did with 3 different outputs. That’s what I really need. Besides doing it the easy way and somehow connecting another pa mixer to just control those. But that’s too much stuff when I can simplify it. Hopefully I can figure it out
Hello can you du me a set up
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I just finished watching this video and thanks for the whole explanation, so clear and honest. Very appreciated! Rick, there is anyway to ask you in private more technical information about how to set up a more complex audio system? I'm really interested to buy this item, but would be great to have more info because We already have an active sound system and We would like to know if dbx PA2 can be useful or not. Thanks in any case. Alex
Is there a way of saving presets? If you dj in certain rooms/functions regularly you can eq and make a system really nice for that certain room with a rough idea of people + position. I have two crown xti that’s similar to this but don’t have as many features. I have cerwin vega intense (passive) speakers and this might help my set ups.
I’ve noticed on my local DJ website that there’s one above this one? Not sure if that’s needed?
Absolutely
Hi there thanks for the great and informative video, but I would like to know on the inputs of the rack the signal coming in can it be clip but to find that the output are not clipping or distorting
No. If the input signal is clipping it will be distorted coming out. Common gain structure
Thanks for the deep dive Rick!
Just bought the PA2. They now have a preset for mains, satalite L&R and sub(s). Not sure if this was available when you made the video.
Have a question. I have a live band, how do I separate wat comes out the lows and what comes out the highs, followed all your steps and everything comes out all at once words through the bottom subs. I have 4 black widow sp2 18s and 4 sp2 15 tops
There is only one input so you can separate instruments if thats what you mean. You can only set the crossovers of each output
Good Info Bro!
For the most part your video was great - thank you for putting it together! I just wanted to point out an error - at around 30mins you talk about meter levels and you are trying to get 0db on your DJ mixer to line up with 0db on the DBX - what you didn't notice is that the mixer's meter scale is dBVU and the DBX meter scale is dBFS - in other words, the DJ mixer has a VU meter and the DBX has a peak meter - those are two very different scales, and 0 dBVU is not the same as 0 dBFS!! Further, you go on to claim that +4 is rare in the DJ world, and quite to the contrary, it's actually very common (on the outputs).
So, to sum up, 0 dBVU is around -18 dBFS (which you initially had correct until you switched the DBX to -10), and the inputs to the DBX should be set to +4 (pro audio gear levels) if you're using the XLR outputs from most any DJ mixer/controller. If you're going to use the RCA outputs, then you'd use -10 (for consumer gear audio levels). Running your DBX up almost to 0 dBFS is leaving nearly no amount of headroom and you're pretty much guaranteed to clip, which, in the audio world, is very bad.
So for anyone reading this, if you're using a DJ mixer with balanced XLR/TRS outputs, make sure your downstream gear is set to +4.
With this setup can you connect driverack pa2 to sub and top from sub like normal setup from mixer board?
Yo Rick, I’ve had my PA2 for years now and saw this video years ago and set mine up to how you say in this video for my QSC speakers and K12 subs. But I always wondered, should I be using an external Mixer board with the PA2 or just the PA2? Help me out.
I normally use an external mixer board. Used to use just my sz which worked but mixer board is better
I have a question please.
I’m a mobile DJ looking at purchasing one of these to further tailor/enhance/limit front of house sound. The remote app also appeals to me.
My system is 2x EV EKX-12P active tops and 2x EV EKX-18SP active subwoofers. The DSP control on these speakers have the option to system-match the crossover i.e. the high pass for the tops can be set to EKX-18SP (or other EV models) and the low pass for the subs can be set to EKX-12P (or other EV models).
Would I be able to route the signal flow/configure the settings in the DriveRack so the above is maintained?
I don’t want the DriveRack crossover controls to supersede the speakers’ system-matched settings.
N.B. The outputs on EKX subwoofers are hardwired as a thru output (no DSP out) i.e. they’re always sending a full range signal (see this video explanation - EV ELX200, EKX & ETX Crossovers | How they work and why they are not good options for column arrays - CZcams).
Any help appreciated.
Great i was wondering how you got to use the 3 outputs. I got the driverack PA2 mainly for the anti-feedback feature it works great but think i need to learn more about it. My only problem is that the PA2 isn't updated for all the newer model speakers Profiles, would of been nice to get regular updates.
Any company that puts out regular updates in the DJ world is a gem lol
Is it possible to change output settings to all 6 chan. independed, or it must be low/mid/hi ?
Hey Ricky
Not sure if this is a silly question? But if you have an amp that’s slightly more power than the speakers your running how do you find the rms watts output to save popping them? Wouldn’t it come under gain control? Wonder if the drive rack or via the RTA mic has a detection system for this? For example I running 4x cerwin vega subs 500watt a cabinet so 2x a side is 1000watt 4 ohm load and the crown xti is pushing 1,200watt a side.
Hope this makes sense?
Well you would rather have an over sized amp than an under sized one. But you can dial in your limiters to prevent peaking
@@DJRickWeb thanks matey. Always be advised to have slightly more power in the amp than needed.
You know about the settings in the drive rack - bell, low shelf & high shelf?
Nice setup
What a dope video. I still need a driverack for dummies course. How does this work with a mixer? I have a behringer x1622 with USB, 4 tops and 4 subs
Hello. the input delay is for both L-R channels at once or can be separated for each channel separately. I am interested if the column on one of the cups wants to move it harder in case I need it! with the bas-mid-hi alignment it's clear but I don't know if this can be separated at the input! hello
Seprare for each of the outputs
Cool video…👍🏼 Next time talk about the microphone setup with the drive rack Db2
just got my DBX pa2 cant wait to hook up my subs..
Hi! Great Video! 👌 Can You tell me what is the best way to configure crossover for 2+1?(LD dave 15 g3) How to setup crossover settings?
Not sure
Thank you!! I have one and I was frustrated because I cannot upgrade it, no firmware for QSC 12.2
I just bought one and I can't get the app to work either on my MacBook Pro or my Samsung Galaxy S10 because the apps have not been upgraded probably since 2017 or 2018. What's worse is that they do not have any of my EV speakers or subs in their menu
Dbx is not compatible with mac. Only works on windows. And you must be doing something wrong because I was using an s10 in the video. Lastly, EV is not listed due to company reasons. DBX is part of Harmon technology. Under the harmon brand is dbx, sound craft, jbl, akg, crown, audio technica and a few others. They dont support ev because it's a rival company. I do agree they should update the app though. 2017 is pretty dated.
@@DJRickWeb I had to follow-up with you. I had to contact Linksys to ensure that I was setting up my router appropriately. Originally it was set up using a CD-rom 6 years ago. They helped my reset the router and change the network name to my DJ name (which made it easier to locate). Much love to you for walking through all this detail (as I just finished doing it all to my setup). Looking forward to your other videos on the other features!!
On my dbx drive 2 the mid green lights are off. An I don't know how to turn it on so I can use the mid signal. This video is a big help to me thanks a lot for doing the demo. I would like learn about the other controls on the dbx drive rack....
I am making a future video on that
Hi Rick
Do you set the crossovers on the powered speakers n subs themselves to match or leave everything off and let the DR sort it out?
Everything off just use the drive rack
Hey man , were can I find the video on the other features of the drive rack pa2 , I just got one and I'm trying to learn more about it ... This video right here taught me alot , so thank you 😊
Got a dbx pa2 setting gain structure shouldn’t it be left at +4db if your using balanced Xlr outputs, Using mine with a 900nsx2 mixer. Got one because of your video.
Amazing tutorial Rick, because of your channel I purchased this device, so thank you! I have a few questions: At the gain staging part where you're making sure the Dj mixer is @ 0db are the gains from your Yamaha 12 mixer at 0db/Unity as well? Also, how would you configure or set up your subs if they're plugged in through an AUX channel of the external mixer but want to integrate it w/ the DBX?
Yes Yamaha is also at 0
Passive Speakers have built in crossovers as well. Some are just better than others.