My "35 Tribes" that explain Canadian politics
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- I made a unique Canadian political compass that explains Canada according to 35 different tribes.
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TIMECODES
00:00 - Intro
04:05 - Social Conservative
05:05 - Red Tory
06:35 - Climate Doomer
08:02 - The Ethnic Vote
10:38 - Quebec Vote
12:19 - The Union Man
13:45 - The Trucker
15:35 - The Wonk
17:17 - The Future American
19:02 - The Rich
20:35 - Quebec Separatist
22:05 - Social Justice Warrior
23:28 - Conspiracy Theorist
24:26 - Laurentian Elite
27:17 - Swing Voter
29:22 - Land Back
31:21 - Boomer Nationalist
33:50 - Orthodox Conservative
36:31 - Oil Über Alles
38:12 - Healthcare Über Alles
39:57 - "Our System" Guys
43:09 - Gun Man
43:41 - NDP Masochist
46:31 - Non-Quebec French
47:58 - Bernier Bro
49:36 - The Rural Vote
50:08 - People who a grossly over-inflated conception of what Canadian foreign policy can do
51:35 - Proud Boy
52:43 - Subsidized Protectionist
53:47 - Extremely Online Leftist
54:34 - Bilingualist
55:37 - Support Our Troops!
56:55 - Prairie Nationalist
58:29 - The Urban Vote
59:02 - Republican
1:00:40 - Outro
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Hopefully one day JJ would have an ACUTAL AWARD WINNING video and he'd have to clarify between his award-winning video and his 'award-winning video'
I'm surprised that the government of Canada doesn't want to tout him a notable cultural icon for our country.
He's pretty much THE Canadian ambassador for CZcams.
I wonder what would happen if one of his videos does get an actual award?
Y'know what, I'm gonna make an award show just to give a J.J. video an award.
I thought he had won prizes... Was it a joke after all?
@@mookosh If Canada ever goes Republic it would be so cool if JJ served as President even if it’s only a symbolic position.
I do love that JJ is such a masterful cartoonist, his art is so full of personality and conveys his ideas well
Me too, I love the episode where he goes through his cartooning process. Got me into watercolour pens.
I've forgotten the name of the style but either way I love to see it!
I know! He's such a talented artist.
@@Steadyaim101 Oh my! What's the video? I can't find it
JJ is a brilliant teacher. He transcends political interests to explain things in a interesting fashion.
now I want an entire RPG where these characters interact with each other and make their funny noises
RPG? No.
Fighting game.
@@diestormlie that, or a strategy game
That game is called Disco Elysium
Someone get on this!
I would Play the shit out of it no matter if it was an RPG, Fighting or Strategy Game lol
Speaking as a curious American, it is very interesting to see how Canadian politics is an interesting mix of positions with no American equivalent, warped funhouse reflections of American groups, and direct equivalents to American groups.
For all their similarities, both countries are still quite different, yeah. Our conservatives can roughly translate to your Dems, but our spectra diverge more with respect to our left not being represented in the US and the US right not really existing here outside of fringe groups. One thing I would jokingly point out is how even your framing puts all comparisons in terms of an american basis -- a very american move!
@@TheDSasterX No shit an American would look at is through an American basis. They're American. Was he supposed to compared it to Trinidad?
@@TheDSasterX "One thing I would jokingly point out is how even your framing puts all comparisons in terms of an american basis -- a very american move!". 🙄 Maybe H Polli felt that your country sharing the world's longest border with a global juggernaut and most of its population living within 100 miles of that historically porous border might have some influence on its politics. I would also like to say that the act of framing another country's politics through the lens of one's own nationality is certainly not unique to Americans.
@@TheDSasterX You Canadians are extraordinary 😂 just as nationalist and ludicrous as we come off lol
@@TheDSasterX They don't "roughly translate" to the Dems at all. The Conservatives translate to the Republicans.
I feel that if the goal was to push libertarianism the compass had failed: if anything I think it has sterilized the idea of "authoritarian", no longer having to be synonymous with tyranny but with interventionist government policy in society and economy. In current politics, I think authoritarian still has the same connotation to boomers but to young people for which this chart is popular I think it has affected how they view the dimensions of policy
That's a very profound insight. Because the compass has been divorced from its original purpose, and is now used as this sort of generic sorting mechanism, it has normalized the idea that what are supposed to be pejorative categories are actually just generic options.
Very good point! Building on that, I think the design of the grid kind of inflates our perception of how normalized fringe politics are. For example, if you put Stalin in the upper left and say Trudeau in the kind of mid-left of the box, the visual implies that these people represent equally popular positions. In reality, political identities fall on a 'normal' bell curve, with say Trudeau representing a much more average and widely supported position than Stalin. I guess I'm trying to say that politics is more or less normally distributed, but the compass gives the representation that all of the infinite positions on the grid are equally represented in the population when in reality the edges of the compass are extremely unpopular and the fact that we can more readily think of examples like Stalin or Mao is because they go so strongly against the grain.
@@Steadyaim101 That's so true. And moreover it seems to imply, that there are ''correct'' versions of politicall ideologies, as in, if you know like 5 of my opinions, you will be able to fit me in the 'correct'' political identity, and if I were to protest this, I'd be ''wrong'' or ''don't understand politics''.
@@sempersuffragium9951 In social stats, we would call this variable rather than person-centred approaches to prediction. In a variable-centered approach, we identify someone's position on a few key dimensions and infer how well those dimensions work for predicting someone's 'political category' based on how reliable the ratio of people who, for example, rate 4/5 agreement on X political ideal self identify as being part of Y pre-defined political category (e.g., social conservative). Say that based on our measure of 4 or 5 broad political ideals we can reliably guess with 80% accuracy whether someone will indicate Y or Z category, that's generally good enough for most researchers. This is generally what most social science research looks like. With person-centric approaches, we instead look at how a person rates themself on those 4 or 5 dimensions, then how thousands of others do to. With enough people, you will start to see 'clusters' of people who rate similarly to each other emerge, and then we label that cluster based on the characteristics of the people within it. It's generally a much better approach but computationally and logistically it's insanely hard to do.
@@Steadyaim101 Yes, I understand that, but there are several problems with this: 1. You don't have constant axes. What matters most, and is therefore going to be a point of contention, varies through space and time. A typicall example might be enviromentalism now VS 30 years ago.
2. It gives the impression of clearly defined borders. E.g. it gives the impression that Johnson would have more in common with Adolph than with Sir Keir, just because they are in the same quadrants.
3. The shape suggests that all levels of libertarianism are about equally "wide" left to right. Which leeds to absurdities like "anarchist left" vs "anarchist right" which is clearlly nonsense. In total anarchy there will be only one state and regardless of what you would like. Similarly all dictatorships will look broadly the same, due to the machinachions of dictatorial regiemes. Which promotes another misconception, that dictatorships even have a political spectrum, which is obviouslly false, but it gives the kids today the idea that, dictatorship is bad, because it might contradict my politics, rather than: dictatorship is bad. For everyone involved. Period.
I don't want to be to harsh on the social sciences, but I do feel, that maybe the scientific method isn't up to the task of analising human society. Just recently, for example, I was following this election, where every poll was predicting a narrow two way race, but anyone with basic understanding of politics could have predicted a landslide, and sure enough, a landslide it was.
And I do believe the scientific study of politicall ideologies is fundamentally flawed, because ideologies aren't what drives the left-right spectrum - it's narrative. Usually the narative of strenght vs compassion/kindness. All policies just stemn from these naratives, and are themselves completely random (or at least heavily conditioned by location, time, history,...)
I am a Teaching assistant in political science at a Canadian university. I usually teach international politics, but when students write essays on a topic of their choice I would say that 75% of them are on climate change.
I believe it.
I think it is indicative of it's importance and cultural relevance. Especially now that the effects are easely visible with incredibly extreme and varying climate patterns becoming more and more common, and the rise of the sea level anyone with more than 15 years and fairly close to a coast may have noticed
@@berni1011 case in point
I even get this in my Psych research methods class. Every year over half of my students will talk about things like 'an epidemic of anxiety and depression disorders due to the impending doom of climate disaster!' Except for 2020 because then all they wanted to talk about was why some people follow Covid rules or not and the effects of social isolation.
It will work itself out because as they get older they will see yet another moral panic doesn't pan out (overpopulation, global famine, peak oil, etc.) and become more skeptical of the next one.
Your art style is amazing! I would buy a poster or card showing all the Canadian political tribes.
Boy have we got a product for you
Out of all the factions you listed I feel both compelled and qualified to say that in terms of the "NDP faction" a lot of these perennial voters are people who aren't necessarily loyal to the party but to the *idea* of the party, and more accurately, what it used to be.
Many people in rural Manitoba, rural Quebec, and northern Ontario don't necessarily vote NDP out of a sort of ideological alignment but because they're convinced the NDP still supports what it did in 1979. Which, obviously, isn't true.
This is what I was going to say as well. I live in a strong NDP riding which became NDP mostly because of the CN rail yards and the union way back in the past. People vote NDP because their parents voted NDP and marry other NDP voters because everyone here is an NDP voter.
Dude, this is such a strong piece. I'm guilty of forgetting how much of a real talent you are in political cartooning, and this video was a great reminder of that. I especially like the little quotes the characters are saying, they're really silly and fun uses of classic phrases. I also appreciate the great sympathy you try to give to beliefs that obviously aren't your own, your climate doomer commentary especially was really measured and kind. Great work J.J. this is one of your best yet.
TIMECODES
04:05 - Social Conservative
05:05 - Red Tory
06:35 - Climate Doomer
08:02 - The Ethnic Vote
10:38 - Quebec Vote
12:19 - The Union Man
13:45 - The Trucker
15:35 - The Wonk
17:17 - The Future American
19:02 - The Rich
20:35 - Quebec Separatist
22:05 - Social Justice Warrior
23:28 - Conspiracy Theorist
24:26 - Laurentian Elite
27:17 - Swing Voter
29:22 - Land Back
31:21 - Boomer Nationalist
33:50 - Orthodox Conservative
36:31 - Oil Üeber Alles
38:12 - Healthcare Über Alles
39:57 - "Our System" Guys
43:09 - Gun Man
43:41 - NDP Masochist
46:31 - Non-Quebec French
47:58 - Bernier Bro
49:36 - The Rural Vote
50:08 - People who a grossly over-inflated conception of what Canadian foreign policy can do
51:35 - Proud Boy
52:43 - Subsidized Protectionist
53:47 - Extremely Online Leftist
54:34 - Bilingualist
55:37 - Support Our Troops!
56:55 - Prairie Nationalist
58:29 - The Urban Vote
59:03 - Republican
13:45 - The Trucker
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I bet that's where he actually took it from.
Amazing work! What about the Quebec anglophone?
Tag yourself I'm the conspiracy theorist
@@captainobscurity491 some mix of Red Tory, urban voter, orthodox conservative, and support our troops guy (minus the standard issue military moustache)
Can someone do the chapters-split-up-thing to this video?
As an American, it would mean the world to me if you would make a similar video for U.S. political tribes. You are very insightful!
Someone already did it on pcm, basically:
1)The tankie (middle class hypocrite)
2)Zoomer socialist (implies is in a phase)
3)Mansphere zoomer (hardcore fan of Andrew Tate, Gary Vanderchuck, etc)
4)The Contrarian (always against what's 'popular' good or bad)
5)(Blue state) Confederate sympathizer (or unironic Nazi/fascist)
6)Chicken-hawk (boomer draft-dodging war monger)
7)Union democrat (conservative dem)
8)Black nationalist
9)Blue dog Democrat (centrist dem)
10)MAGA voter (implies personally loyal to Trump over US)
11)Vatnik ("useful idiot" for Russia or China)
12)Anti-worker (freeloading NEET)
13)Consoomer (marvel/Nintendo/ etc is their religion)
14)berniebro (crying wojak)
16)Rust belt factory worker (desiccated wojak)
17)Boomer Democrat (NIMBY, thinks Biden is the greatest leader of all time)
18)Never-Trumpers (RHINO looking dessicated)
19)Swing voter (NPC face believes whoever spends the most money on politicals ads)
20)alt-right influencer fan (brainlet wojak)
21)Evangelical (implies a boomer obsessed with trannies)
22)green party voter (smug pepe, due to dems thinking he's "taking votes from Biden!")
23)smug liberal (smug that other leftist, that dislike Biden, have to vote for him)
24)SJW activist (protests/complains but doesn't vote or buys things they attack)
25)New-Atheism follower (implies hes either "I am so smart" egotist or mad at religious parents)
26)New ager (implies clueless flakey people)
27)druggie (thinks "everyone is addicted to something" like them)
28)conspiracy theorist (thinks gov/aliens stop him from getting a tradwife/job/etc)
29)doomer (apathetic person)
30)militia member (fat/old guy who thinks he's a navy seal)
31)INCEL (blames women for own problems)
32)tinder girl (perpetually dissatisfied)
33)libertarian (thinks they're a 3rd party but always support Republicans)
34)Luddite (prepping, hording gold & rations)
that would be very interesting
As Fourth Generation NDP people, I agree with your assessment of NDP people.
Funny enough, I'm not a multigenerational NDP voter, but I can't bring myself to vote for any of the other parties. Can't do "lesser of two evils".
@@wandererstraining NDP is the only party in Canada who's not evil. So, gotta vote for them lol.
@@k-sooyaalove206 Yeah, ha ha. They're not perfect, but I don't consider them evil, unlike the big two.
@@k-sooyaalove206 this is ironic right?
Name checks out.
Not even started yet, and yet I already know it’s gonna be another classic Award-Winning Video 😎
Just adding to the collection of award winning videos
i get the joke, but does he actually have any award-winning videos? just curious
@@Lucas-fg9yc smh, clearly not a true JJ fan 😤 he’s pointed out the numerous award winning videos he’s had throughout his backlog
@@uydagcusdgfughfgsfggsifg753 very true
Anytime JJ refers to "kids" and "young people" I am taken aback; he looks like someone who could have graduated high school with me back in 2014 !
Great video as always!
That was 8 years ago, you'll be doing it soon if you aren't already.
Time flies!
@@jonhanson8925 I graduated high school in 2017, when I was 17. I don't feel old compared to anybody, maybe because I was born in 2000, which is still in this century and look younger than many born in 2001- 2008.
@@mapofthesoultagme7143 sometimes I forget people where born after the year 2000.
In regards to the "Swing Voter" I don't think it should be considered incoherent or uninformed to not align with all this views of a specific party, especially considering how many different factions a party may be trying to appeal to. Abortion and immigration are very different topics and to support one shouldn't mean you should support the other... I think one of the main issues in politics is the blind support of certain parties, or the altering one's values or opinions in order to properly fit in with the "identity" chosen.
This was my thought as well.
Excellent comment. J.J.'s perspective is interesting, if not very cliché, at least in the US. I have to say, I lost some respect for J.J. because it appears that he can only view things in his own particular way and not consider that other people might not view things the same way.
yeah if you vote the same way always your vote means less i think.
I was similarly disappointed by his reaction to that mentality. We should vote in what we believe in.
@@j.s.7335 Proimmigration and pro-life positions together are more popular among Catholic populations, so it's not as incoherent as JJ thinks. Definitely not the only view or majority view, but it can occur.
Honestly, the climate doomer one is a big one I wasn't expecting. I honestly think this way and I am glad someone involved in covering politics covered it so simply and honestly
it's amazing that more people don't consider our potential extinction to be the number one most pressing matter.
@@zhou_sei humans have faced potential extinction throughout all of history. This isn't much different. I don't understand why you would allow yourselve to become despaired over something you have no power to change. We are going to continue burning fossil fuels until we run out. It's that simple. I suggest listening to byorn Lonborg on this issue.
@@JM-wx5nm i don't have to be in despair in order to put it at the top of my political importance list.
there ARE things we can do, and burying our heads in the sand is not a solution.
@@JM-wx5nm Humans that faced potential extinction threats did things to make sure they survived said threats. This is like saying in a fire "Oh, I know people have been saved from fires previously! I don't need to hurry and use the fire escape!"
I'm more neutral on this one. I support the development of green technologies, although im not a huge fan of the doom and gloom of the climate activists. These aren't even the hottest temperatures in history!
Something about that "Laurentian Elite" part. Reagan (and Nixon, to some extent) basically did the same thing with the GOP as Harper did with the Conservatives. Reagan bucked the GOP's "Eastern Establishment" in favor of more populist, ideological appeals to the US' socially conservative southern and western populations.
You're thinking of Neocons. The political movement gained steam in the 1960s during what Republican historians consider to be the 4th great party realignment (those being Lincolnite "Stalwarts" -> Half-breeds, Half-breeds -> Rooseveltian Progressives, Progressives -> Conservatives, Conservatives -> Neocons, Neocons -> Trumpian Populists). It's most popular among the Baby Boomers who brought its existence about in response to the Hippies. Hippies, for their part, gave way to the moderate "Blue Dog Democrats" in part due to their disastrous defeat after running McGovern. The Blue Dogs' last hurrah is Biden, who, like Nixon, is a slippery snake who just champions the most dominant ideology in the party to not appear left behind by the times.
Though Harper didn't win solely through the West, he also needed the suburbs of Toronto, which is the reason why recently the Tories have failed to beat the Libs, they are still holding onto the West but they are losing the more moderate suburbs in Ontario to the Libs. Of course, relevant to this is that Harper won leading the newly united Conservative party that brought together the members of the Western socially conservative centered Reform Party with the remnants of the Progressive Conservatives, whose base was in Ontario and Atlantic Canada. This gave Harper a coalition of moderate Tories in Ontario with more populist conservatives in the West. The Liberals have in recent elections peeled away a lot of the former Progressive Conservative votes by painting the Tories as anti-gay, anti-muslim, and anti-abortion. Harper kept a tight lid on the more radical members of the Western wing of the party that tend to scare away Ontario voters, but without Harper the conservatives have had tension with their political base around Toronto. As evident that during the whole trucker fiasco Ford and the Ontario conservatives were happy to work with the Federal Liberals while the Federal Conservatives wanted to appear sympathetic to the truckers. The Ontario Conservative Party is governing much closer to the centre than the federal Conservative party would. The Liberals were also weaker at the time in Quebec in the wake of the sponsorship scandal, but they've recovered a lot of their seats in the smaller Quebec urban centres that they didn't have under Harper's minority and majority governments. It's not clear right now that either the Liberals or the Conservatives are capable of forming a winning coalition of voters without some kind of shift. The Liberals are best suited to win a majority if they can steal support on the left from the NDP and Bloc. The Tories need to win back the suburban voters in Ontario, which is most likely to happen if the economy is struggling and enough anger builds against Trudeau.
I know you were born and live in Canada, but if you feel knowledgeable enough about American politics, I would love to see this same analysis for American political factions. Or any other country for that matter. You bring an incredibly interesting perspective to politics as a whole.
An Australian video would be interesting
@@madeline7272 the cities, the farmers, Bob Katter
OMG, how are you so coherent, it's a delight hearing you talk about politic in such a calm and intelligent manner.
I like JJ too, I do know of very many Canadian CZcamsr's but I love how he showcases Canadian Politics to the world, even if we don't share the exact same views on Politics.
It's nice to talk about politics without involving yourself in them, that's what I like most about this channel
The longer JJ talks, the more Canadian his accent becomes.
@@Frankthegb the „i live here so i know everyone in the country“ canadian. Probably ottawan mf who doesnt leave ottawa🤮
The more Laurentian Canadian. It's almost ear cancer to me.
I think you missed two groups:
1) The anglo-quebecer
And
2) The forgotten maritimer (appropriately enough)
And the rural NDP voter
@@mister_salmon5693 I'm curious about this suggestion, being a labour voter myself in a part of Britain that has (in recent years) tended to vote more conservatively. Are the leftwing rural Canadians more likely to vote NDP over just voting for the Liberals because they reckon the NDP will do more for them, or is more just to spite the Liberals for not being leftwing enough for them? Not that it can't be both, of course. I was just trying to imagine what their primary motivation is.
@@freakishuproar1168 mostly they vote NDP because of the old NDP supported the miners unions and local industry and such also now the NDP are very popular in the native communities up north, but a lot of them don’t care about the social views so that’s probably why the liberals aren’t popular since they are the same socially but more right wing economically. Also they probably feel like the big parties don’t care about them only the big cities. And the same 15-20 seats have been voting NDP for the past 20 years almost but now the NDP party is really progressive and those seats are becoming more and more conservative just because of the NDP starting to favour climate change restrictions which are agains industries that drive these communities like mining lumber and fishing and being more of a liberal alternative rather than a socialist party.
@@mister_salmon5693 p’´´´p’ li k
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Speaking as one of the NDP masochists, I guess our rationalization is that we think the liberals won't keep their word when they have a majority government, but if we get a liberal minority we can make alliances with them to still get the policies we want like happened recently along with historical examples like getting universal health care in Lester B Pearson or social security under Mackenzie King in alliance with the progressive party which filled the same role at the time. Whether that's actually true is debatable but that's our story and were sticking too it.
As a fellow NDP masochist, I can’t agree with you more.
Came here to say this, I'm left-leaning and I'm not going to vote for the Liberals because the Liberals aren't a left-leaning party. They tend to be status-quo centrist do-nothings, more often than not.
I don't think you give yourself enough credit. It may be debatable but you provided three strong examples. Another problem with JJ's analysis (though just to clear, I really enjoyed the video and understand it is purposefully simplistic) is he takes the sort of "winner takes all" analysis that many identify as a major problem with Canadian democracy. If the party you vote for isn't the winner, than is it really a complete loss? When 15-20% of the voters choose a left-wing progressive party, that sends a clear message to the winning party that a large chunk of the population desires. Not to mention even non-NDP voters often find NDP positions to be reasonable, meaning their policies are more popular than just the federal vote would imply. I have historically voted liberal when they adopted NDP policies that were important to me, because I thought the liberals were more likely to win. But....having been burned on electoral reform (among other things), I find myself increasingly turning into the NDP masochist. Now I vote for a third place candidate because at least I can feel like I voted for the party I want. This is where JJ's assessment of 'moral satisfaction' in the NDP masochist is, unfortunately, correct.
Yeah, I think it also promotes compromise and accountability, in a majority government, the libs can get away with a lot more, but being forced into a coalition holds the possibility of a fractured coalition.
Conservative Diefenbaker got the ball rolling on universal healthcare, so it was Conservative Diefenbaker, Liberal Pearson and NDP Tommy Douglas who each played important roles.
"..when the queen dies." JJ knew, conspiracy theorists.
yes people do indeed die eventually
^We're all glad that you get the joke there.
The biggest group that I think is missing from this list is 'The Suburban Voter'. The largest number of these people reside in the 905 area code around Toronto, and in the outer suburbs around Vancouver. These are people who are more likely to have kids and more likely to be homeowners. Affordability issues tend to be top of mind among this group, though their impression of the party leaders can also influence their vote. A lot of these folks will move back and forth between voting for the Liberals and the Conservatives over the course of their lives, even if they're not swing voters in every (or even most) election(s). Also tend to be more susceptible to 'strategic voting' than the average voter.
The main parties tend to devote a sizeable amount of time and effort towards courting these voters during elections, with policies designed to appeal specifically to this group. Also, the media tends to argue that it's these voters who decide which party forms government, which has the effect of convincing many of these voters that they need to vote for a party capable of forming government.
I am surprised JJ did not add them. That's probably the most important voting block in Canada nowadays because it's probably the biggest accessible pool of voters who live in competitive ridings. A good indication of these seats is basically those who are Conservative provincially right now in Ontario but Liberal federally (the opposite was true in 2011). They are mostly in Ontario (the 905 area code) and BC federally with a few ridings in Manitoba and suburban Alberta.
@@matvail2002 I actually did have one originally but I got rid of it because it seemed too generic.
I've always found the plethora of Canadian political commentators who talk about US politics annoying as an American. Mostly because they'll never have to live with the consequences of their advocacy. And I say that about the left wing ones that I tend to agree with. It's a shallow cash grab and I don't like it.
To be fair, the US has a lot of influence in Canada, even political influence, increasingly so now that everyone is on the internet. The trucker faction was in part influenced by recent American politics
@@bodymuezik that doesn’t mean they get a say in American politics
Similar to what Honoré says, there sort of are consequences because I used to feel what happens in the US often is reflected ~5 years later in Canada. Not always exactly the same, but often fairly similar.
@@michaelbodell7740 I think that’s kind of just a rationalization. A lot of Canadian pundits, especially on the far left, just treat American politics like an ARG. They show little sign of knowing or caring much about Canadian politics, because it’s too complicated and less ideological.
@@JJMcCullough I imagine that's the case for most of them. But one friend I had back in high school is also a leftist who cares mostly about American politics, and we got into a couple of conversations about whether our focus should be on American or Canadian politics. And his argument was that American politics has a larger impact on Canada than even our own politics do, and so, while our ability to impact American politics is much smaller, it's still more important to focus on that.
I still disagree with the take. But I can understand how someone would stand by it. Especially if they have global or metropolitan leanings like a lot of progressives seem to, as opposed to the more local views of conservative types.
“Can you handle one hour of Canadian politics?”
YES I FUCKING CAN!
I......... Is that Andrew Scheer?
@@supersejkaj3093 yes
🇩🇪 _German Tribes in a nutshell :_
- *The Bavarian Vote* (Bavarians who vote for primarily bavarian interests)
- *The Federal Vote* (Germans who vote for well-established parties and want to avoid controversy, but can all roughly agree on environmentalism, austerity, progressive- and social-liberal politics)
- *The Opposition Vote* (Germans who don’t like ‘Mainstream Politics’ and see hope in populistic politics, mainly from the right but also from the left)
- *The Rural-Conservative Vote* (Germans who vote for primarily independent local parties)
- *The GDR Vote* (Germans who are stuck in the Cold War)
- *The Conspiracy Vote* (Just as in Canada, people who support everything from grassroots-democracy to full-fledged extremism)
- *The Danish-Frisian Vote* (Germans who are part of Frisian, Danish but also Low German Communities)
- *The Minority Vote* (Just as in Canada, a variety of ethnic and/or religious minorities who vote for a variety of parties)
-the Berlin-SJW-Hipster
-The Eu-Federalist
-the Person-cultist "i vote for:" ...Linder; ...Wagenknecht, ...Söder , ...Kretschmann
-the "everything used to be better" vote
I feel like you can make 35 for Berlin alone lmao
Well in Germany the classical tribes are nonetheless Swabians, Bavarians, Franconians, Rhinelanders, Thuringians, Upper Saxons, Hessians, Frisians, Märker, Silesians and Pommeranians, Pfälzer, Schleswig-Danes, Sorbs, Lower Saxons as well as Mecklenburgers.
this is such a beautifully produced video. I have no idea how you aren't at 1 Mil subscribers yet. there's plenty of million-sub youtubers who aren't putting out the quality that you do. You should do some more collabs with other nerd-tube producers. I could see you and, say, whatifalthist, mat-pat, cynical historian, etc, sharing a lot of viewership.
It's interesting to me how similar, but not quite the same, many of these "tribes" are to American ones. Some are exactly the same, some have no real analog in American politics (like the Quebecois Separatist), but so many are extremely familiar but not quite the same.
I mean, I think Texas has threatened to leave once or twice, but I'm just a Canadian with 3rd-hand information so I could be talking nonsense
Hopefully Puerto Rican separatists gain more traction
@@UNSCPILOT Texans love America and their culture is deeply American. It’s not like Quebec where the people are very culturally isolated and are quite oblivious to Canada.
@@UNSCPILOT There's like 5 people who take it seriously but the rest of us do like playing it up as a joke.
Neo confederates, black nationalists white nationalists
I don't know if you'd be interested in doing more long-form videos like this, but I'd love it. This was genuinely educational, as an American.
I'm obsessed with these character's little video game voices. Montage of these, please!
It amazes me how JJ is able to read and respond to so many comments while also somehow seemingly being in the comment section of every video I watch
As a pole living in England and experiencing both political climates it's nice to learn about other ones great work J.J loving it so far :)
I am a polish as well, live in Poland, have nothing to do with Canada, yet this dude is speaking in such an interesting way that I still watch his Canadian politics videos
How great is polish politics. No left wing sjws . Nationalism dominates.
@@HecClaytos4956 cringe
@@HecClaytos4956 it is not great at all, one of the most childish and agressive ones of europe. Also, to your despair, quite a significant left wing party (polling at about 10%) exists, there’s a lot of liberal parties with a huge support etc
@@HecClaytos4956 Tell me you've been brainwashed without telling me you're brainwashed:
In regards to the ethnic vote it reminds me of “soft bigotry of low expectations” in the way that a politician simply based on ones ethnicity can predetermine what voter issues will make you vote for them if they pander said issues.
More broadly however I think this kind of pandering can take many forms. For example the assumption that poor people and lgbt people are always left learning or “liberal” does tend to undermine the diversity of opinion of such groups as you would generally expect diversity of opinion from any human being
Very true! A big shocker I think for a certain class of White, prosperous urban voters is that on the whole immigrant communities in Canada are fairly split between the Libs and Cons, with some ethnic groups like Chinese and Indian immigrants actually being more Conservative than the average population. IMO this might be an effect of Canada's immigration system prioritizing wealthier, more enterprising immigrants that come to Canada for economic opportunity and just want government out of their way. Their kids on the other hand tend to be a different story.
Immigrants can often come from cultures that are generally more socially conservative than their new home, and that can manifest in interesting political contradictions, where a pro immigrant left can capture voters whose social ideology would make them a better fit for the right.
@@Croz89 yeah but it also kinda makes sense. if the socially conservative party also runs on anti immigration policies, then theyre naturally not gonna get as many votes from immigrants
also may just be a result of left wing politicians often putting in more effort to win over the immigrant vote. thats at least the case where i live. the most conservative party here borders is pretty openly xenophobic and thus their policies usually never win over immigrants, instead they secure seats via the rural lower middle class mostly
@@Steadyaim101 im a kid of Indian immigrants and i can confirm what you said. I’d say my generation has voting patterns closers to other native born Canadians. My parents values wise would fit perfectly in with the conservatives but they vote liberal based on who they think is better on immigration and also they don’t mind social safety nets cuz thats a thing they assume should exist in a first world country. That and economic opportunities is why they came here
@@Croz89 Until the invasion of Iraq, American Muslims tended to vote GOP because of said social conservatism
Wow! I was totally clued out before this. I love the fun manner in which you present the info.
Fantastic video. Really puts your skills to use. I enjoyed your improv commentary. It’s interesting to see the little specific quirks of Canadian politics and how it relates to America.
I don’t have an hour to spare right now, but that’s gotta be the greatest CZcams thumbnail of all-time. Definitely an award-winner.
Aww, now you changed it. :(
Still a solid thumbnail, but not quite the same.
@@GeoDGeo what was the original?
@@declaniii6324 better
what was it
FINALLY! we get an extended video about canadian politics by JJ, let's fucking go
I love the voices of the political characters - it reminds me of Banjo Kazooie! A great summary, I could think of people I've met who have literally said those little quotes you included, not all of them but some.
He does use video game sounds in his videos.
Thoroughly enjoyable, very thoughtful analysis. Love the longer content! Thank you JJ
Hey, JJ, I just wanted say that as a member of the LGBTQ community and as a conservative, you’ve really inspired me and you’re someone I really look up to. Your content is fantastic, it makes me want to become an anthropologist. You always find such strange and wondrous niche topics to explore and I love them.
Good luck on your studies!! Anthropology is my major and as an admitted people nerd, this discipline actually allows for all the complexity of human existence
@@jessicaclakley3691 Thanks! I’m going into computer science though, anthropology is more of a hobby like my fiction writing.
Thank you so much my friend!!
Good luck on your studies!!!
Anthropology, for second I had no idea what that had to do with politics and then I was like “oh it’s JJ” lol
Interesting - in Scotland during and immediately after the independence vote in 2014 - it became fashionable on the nationalist side to describe (typically moderate, New Labour-era) unionist Scottish Labour politicians as ‘Red Tories’ - a term of derision meant to highlight the supposed similarities of Scottish Labour politicians with fellow unionist Conservatives/Tories who are considerably less popular in Scotland than elsewhere in the U.K.
Tories are mostly popular with the English and British people lol
Yeah, I think it's also quite popular to use it for moderate Labour politicians more generally.
And of course Scottish Labour have done the same thing and call the SNP 'Tartan Tories'
It's not just a Scottish thing, here in England we called Blair/Brown era New Labour "red Tories" during their administration.
American with no real ties to Canada here. I really enjoy your channel, whether about general North American culture or Canada-specific stuff. Thank you!
I remember the first time I went to the Detroit-Windsor fireworks on the Windsor side of the river. Planes flew the American and Canadian flags by before the show. When the American flag appeared the crowd started booing. I was so taken aback, I can't imagine booing another country's flag.
Gross yet utterly predictable. When Canada beat the United States for the gold medal in hockey in 2010 in Vancouver I remember Canadians literally stomping on US flags in the street.
Jealousy to be honest
I think you should boo imprealists
@@CartoonCastro you would need to boo Canada as well. Maybe a quieter boo, but a boo nonetheless.
@@Austin-gj7zj I guess that's fair
Not only do I love this video, I also love your choice of sound affects from Banjo Kazooie!
Man I loved Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie. My favourite games when I was a kid.
Also, I think he used Jamjars for "support our troops". Very fitting.
Very cool summery of the political dynamics of Canada. As an American I have always been so surprised at the strident aspects of anti-Americanism and how aggressive Canadians are when they are around Americans. I appreciate your great humor in describing the cultural aspects of Canadian politics. Great work as always!!!
Love your work JJ!
An hour well Spent!
Please make more videos of this length and of this type.
I found the NDP masochist interesting, because here in the U.K. the “lib-dems” (Liberal Democrat’s) are the third party and seem to have very similar characteristics to the NDP except that the lib-dems are a “centrist” party (although in practice they are economically and socially left of centre), which would suggest that U.K. politics has been more polarised than Canadian for some time, as the conservatives and the Labour Party in Britain have traditionally been opposites in political ideology, while it seems the liberals and the tories in Canada are not all that different from each other
The Canadian Liberal party arose from the Chartist movement just like UK Labour, so they're essentially politically quite similar actually. Pierre Trudeau, for example, was an avowed social democrat who lead the party in the 70s. The Libs, like New Labour, shifted to the right during the 80s. Regionalism explains Canadian politics a lot better than ideology. The NDP were the product of the Social Gospel Movement (Christian socialists) from the prairies so they've always had their base in the west of the country, they made some headway into strong union towns in parts of Ontario but they are basically a non-entity east of Toronto. The Liberals are ostensibly centre-left but more flexibly social democratic than most "liberal" parties are. A common criticism of the NDP is that policy wise they are indistinguishable from the Liberals.
Though of course this over simplifies the history. Prior to the 1950s the Liberals were largely a party whose driving ideology was Canadian Nationalism and political alliance between Ontario and Quebec, which carried on into the 60s and 70s into the left-wing nationalism characteristic of Canada (note the adoption of a Canadian national anthem in place of God Save the Queen and a new flag being products of Liberal policy in the 50s). Conservative governments prior to this tended to be focused on reinforcing ties with Britain, but public support suffered a major blow after WW1 was perceived as a hubristic conflict driven by European stupidity. The Tories were dominated by the Liberals politically for most of the 20th century because of that.
@Paul Gauthier I would not consider the Liberals to be firmly neoliberal. They invest heavily in public works programs, do not cut taxes, and support broad social programs. Even in their most recent platform they ran on increasing taxes on the top 15% of earners, and more investment in public healthcare. They were also willing to enter into a confidence supply agreement with the NDP for universal pharmacare and dental. They are just as centre-left as New Labour, and while the NDP has strong union support in Ontario from autoworkers, many unions endorse the Liberals as well.
It helps if you think of it like this: it has long been the dream of the Canadian NDP to become the #2 party by displacing the Libs into #3, because this resets the pattern to make Canada like the UK. The NDP can then take power alone (like Labour) once the center (the Libs) permanently become a marginal force (like the Lib-Dems).
That has not happened, though many NDPers were drooling over it in 2011; the 2015 election was the telling moment - if the Libs had failed to become the chief anti-Harper party, then the NDP might have finally succeeded and dealing a UK-like death blow to the party of the center. Instead, the old pattern of Libs above the NDP reasserted itself.
Though truthfully, you cannot look at Canada's parties as just a single axis of left and right anymore; the two or "two and a half" party configuration has been dead for some time, and only the FPTP voting system keeps that left/right positioning in play.
@@ifeeltiredsleepy I disagree. I think the Liberal Party and Conservative changed in reaction to the Quiet Revolution / rise of Quebec separatism, and the Cold War., respectively. While the Conservatives changed from their roots as a firmly British Empire party to being a firmly pro-American party, and every iteration of them since then has continued being the party of Americanization. The Liberals had to change away being the free trading more Whig-type (or Americanizing) party, and champion federalism / Canadian unity, and social programs (under Pearson and Pierre Trudeau).
Conservatism got destroyed in Quebec for a generation, but the Conservatives built back by tapping heavily into Quebec nationalism in Quebec and anti-Francophone resentment elsewhere, while becoming deeply pro-American all over the place. (Basically, if the Libs became the national unity party, the Cons began to champion disunity - regionalism, separatism, provincialism.)
Perhaps it was the alignment of wealthy WASPs that changed alignment from UK to US, and the Conservative Party (parties) simply reflected that change as it happened.
The question is: did the Liberals (battling Conservatives outside Quebec and separatists inside it) change their nature first, and prompt adaptation in their foe, or was it the other way around ?
It would seem the two parties changed their nature so that their rivalry with each other could continue.
@@wyldhowl2821 I think that ignores that the Libs were already the party of national unity in the 19th century. They have from their inception been a Montreal-Toronto alliance between French and English Canada.
Like I wouldn't say the Libs were American-style free trade advocates because that didn't really exist as an American ideal at the time either. The Libs were continentalists vs the Tory support for imperialism (as articulated by Canadian political philosophers of the time like Stephen Leacock). The Libs wanted to strengthen Canadian independence and republican government through dismantling British trade preferences for closer ties to the US, while the Tories invisioned a global federated British empire of semi-autonomous colonies.
The real start of the shift was Laurier and the Manitoba schools dispute/Riel execution. The urban French Libs had trouble appealing outside Montreal because they were perceived as secular elitist. But the Tories alienated Francophones so badly that the Libs were able to build a nearly insurmountable political alliance accross Ontario and Quebec for most of the next 100 years.
Brazilians, especially left-leaning ones, have a similar relationship with our healthcare system to what JJ said about Canadians. Several people mistakenly claim that Brazil’s healthcare system (SUS) is the best in the world and become very defensive at the sight of any criticism thereof. A couple years ago president Bolsonaro signed a decree authorising a study on public-private partnerships in SUS and the internet became a dumpster fire of people claiming that the decree was an attempt at ‘privatising’ SUS.
Buddy you should not have used the acronym
Amogus
Wow that's pretty *S U S*
Very interesting videos, especially for non-Canadians thinking of moving to Canada, or who wish to know more about Canada.
As a big fan of your channel and of Pokémon I’ve been waiting so long to be able to order the Canadamon book, so being able to watch a cool video like this and then have the book be available at the end was like the icing on the cake.
Great content! Very nice balance between a factual description and a charicature of a political landscape. I'm not particularly interested in Canada but my cousin just recently moved to Montreal and for some reason your videos started to pop up in the recommendations. I genuinely enjoy how your research is translated to a casual exposition that is entertaining.
I think JJ and I have differing political views, but I still appreciate his explainer style from his experience in journalism. JJ, you do a good job of representing various perspectives without associating your opinion of those parties, until you need to call out your editorial opinion.
Strangely, JJ and I have nearly identical points of view but I see myself as on the left whereas JJ sees himself on the right.
I don't think he did a very good job. His sneering and dramatic pauses let you know which groups he approved of and which he didn't even though the script he was working off of did seem pretty neutral.
The little "voices" you used to speak the quotes of the characters are brilliant
I'm pretty sure they're Animal Crossing voices
Banjo Kazooie
Great chat session J.J. and the bonus of the "Log-Driver" intermission was the icing on the cake!
I really enjoyed this video and learned a lot. Your videos are almost always interesting, unique, and well made. All the best from Massachusetts, U.S.A!
was looking for something to satisfy my need for a podcast like video and jj never disappoints. I anxiously wait for late mornings on saturday for a reason!
JJ: "Hey, here's an hour long video about Canadian politics, wanna watch it?"
Me, an American, who's never been to Canada, and has no plans to ever visit: "Boy do I!"
Thanks for another banger!
Hey, I am a African-American guy in his 60s. I really enjoy your content and your ever-changing haircuts. No Homo. Just a fan.
Why is liking someone's haircut gay lmao
I read that as "in the 60s" by accident. So I was trying to think of why you would be speaking from pre-civil rights perspective
I really enjoyed the segmented setup of this with a little quip from each faction
Can you handle one hour of Canadian politics? I can when it's coming from JJ McCullough! ❤🙂
the political compass and its consequences have been a disaster for internet political discourse
Today i learned JJ is a conservative who draws his own cartoons.
After re-watching that "Canadian Political Compass" video of yours, I had half-jokingly thought to myself "wouldn't it be a laugh if J.J. made an hour long video", and being the absolute dude that you are, you followed through with one of my mind's many random fancies quite spectacularly :3
Speaking of that aforementioned compass video, something I've really enjoyed about that video and this one was all the culturally specific nicknames (granted, you might of come up some of those yourself, but I'm cool with that ;p) and the endemic political sloganeering of Canada - like how NDP members get labelled "Dippers", or the the rosetinted legacy of the Avro Arrow - I learned through them. I feel like there is such a dearth of these psychosocial details about Canadian culture both online and on terrestrial TV, at least in Britain. I suppose that fact lends a note of irony of the existence of more monarchical leaning Canadians, because I'm afraid to say most of us have rather scant knowledge of the vagaries of Canadian culture and politics.
It was interesting to hear your take on rich people. I must confess that being the leftie working class Englishman that I am, I often feel a sort of innate distrust and contempt towards the wealthy. Your own impressions of meeting them more-or-less synched-up to what I peevishly imagine most entrepreneurial people are like. The Wonk amused me. My fellow British commenters might of already beat me to this, but describing something as "wonky" is another way of saying that something is askew or bent-out-of-shape in some way - usually targeted at inanimate things as opposed to anyone. A badly hung painting would be described as looking a bit a wonky, as an example. I also liked how the Bernier Bro wore a fedora, that was a nice touch.
Dude! :D Thanks for the like :3
I also laughed at his comment of the rich people because it’s the most comfortable middle class take haha very unaware or trusting of the wealthy and not seeing the horrible things they do that the lower classes and even upper middle clsss (the educated progressive elite types) know so well. It’s okay though distrust in the wealthy typically comes from experience people figure it out at different times. Here in America a bunch of conservatives have really been understanding that more and more lately as they struggle to pay their mortgages or rent. This is specifically the lower middle class in jj’s classification. The resentment for the wealthy has grown more than just the liberal elite but just billionaires and wealthy people in general as they are realising how much they are screened. I hope this means we can have a renewed labour movement
I can’t believe I’m watching such high quality content for free! Thank you for another award winning vidya JJ
This video is incredible JJ! The research and art you put into this video is truly outstanding. Thank you so much :)
Hey JJ once again smashed it liking these videos. So relevant. Thanks
Really enjoyed this video! I love learning about Canada ever since I've found this channel. Cheers from a Mexican American subscriber!
I was surprised you didn't have any of tribes tied to either the Maritimes or Atlantic Canada.
one thing I don't like about this channel is that he never talks about the Maritimes even in videos when he has to he speeds through it to get to the next thing.
@@justinsprague8606 the maritimes are completely insignificant, literally just a oldfolks home / welfare program
From my experiences with volunteering for the NDP most NDP members were aging hippies, left wing academics, and strident labour union supporters who belong to the Canadian Labour Congress or the old CAW. Not exactly a party with wide potential support in Canada.
There's also a faction within the NDP who are so far left they could be communists and keep trying to push the NDP to be even more far left than they already are. People like Leah Gazan, Niki Ashton, Paul Manly, and Matthew Green belong to this faction.
Yes, this all tracks to me. There is a weirdness to the NDP subculture because it is dominated by such "true believer" types. Again, this might sound pejorative, but on the other hand it is a very unpopular party. There has to be a theory to explain that.
@@JJMcCullough there's belief among NDP supporters that the party would be more popular if the current first past the post system wasn't so biased towards the 2 established political parties. This is why the NDP has been heavily pushing for proportional representation elections in recent years.
There's also a cult of Jack Layton worship in the party since he was the only moderately successful NDP leader in Canadian history and a charismatic folk hero on the far left.
@@JJMcCullough I feel like calling the NDP "Very Unpopular" is disingenuous.
@@watson-disambiguation The NDP won 17% of the vote in the last election.
@@JJMcCullough The biggest party won 33% of the vote in 2021. I also add that the NDP has governed provinces, even Alberta, certainly does in BC now, and has a big base in Manitoba and still has influence in Saskatchewan, although it hasn't won overall for a while. Ontario has the NDP supplant the Liberals for this last term of the legislature and has been in coalition during minority government in Ontario, and even is propping up the Yukon government now. Not sure about the East of Canada though.
Binging all your videos on Canadian culture and history in preparation for moving back to BC after living in the States for the last 20 years (I’m American but went to school in Vancouver and I’m hoping to move back there soon.) I really like your style of presenting and your pedagogical philosophy. Thanks for all your work!
super interesting video!! i'm inspired to think about what would be the ones in brazil and here are some:
1. moderate conservatives (majority of the right. more to the social issues, not so much on government spending/intervention)
2. evangelicals (very influential. pro-gun, becoming more and more anti-government, anti-communist etc)
3. monarchists (kind of small but growing over the last decade. catholic and conservatives)
4. social-democrats (kind of like what would be considered liberal in canada and the us, because here the word liberal is associated with libertarians, but way more skeptical of free market and support higher taxes. this is generally the ideology of the nation and constitution)
5. "democratic" socialists (they kinda merge with the social-democrats a lot of times. bigger part of the left, hugely influential)
6. communists (straight up far left genocidal dictatorship-supporters. they are more common than most would think, especially among young people)
7. fascists (mostly people who supported and still support the military dictatorship. usually more social conservative, nationalist and support more intervention in the economy)
8. libertarians (have been growing in numbers over the last decade, and now are kinda influential amongst young people too. very pro-gun, anti-government, anti-taxes, and a lot are anarcho-capitalists, usually pro-drugs too but abortion is split half and half)
9. "everybody is corrupt" (the swing voters essentially, probably the biggest part of the electorate. most also dont vote and dont even care about anything anymore other than living their lives)
10. sjws (they have also been growing in numbers over the last decade and most of them are more socialist/communist but there are some social-democrats and libertarians too)
other than those maybe there is the big business and public sector tribes but i dont think they are monoliths, idk. these are the ones more easier to describe
I'd love to see a bunch of different nations getting the 35 Tribes treatment, including Brazil :D I'm rather curious about the presence of monarchists in that country.
@@freakishuproar1168 it's because we were a constitutional monarchy when we became independent in 1822, but a military coup imposed a provisional Republican government, that was supported by the higher echelon of the army, dissatisfied with the lack of consideration showed by our last emperor, and the rural coffe land owning elite, that was pissed off because of the liberation of slaves, without compensation to their former owners, in 1993, there was a plebiscite to decide whether the Brazilian people would like to keep the Republican system, or restore the monarchy( both options included parliamentarism), but the majority voted to keep the Republican system, I personally doubt we will see the restoration of the monarchy here, but that is because half of the monarchists here, are zealous Catholics and conservatives that want Catholicism as the official religion, as it was established in the first Brazilian constitution, but that would violate the right of freedom of religion, so, to me, personally, the only useful thing to do, is ensure Brazil changes the constitutional articles to install a parliamentary system, because it helps to decentralise the power of the President, which is something that I like, because I believe in the separation of powers, and am more prone to hold certain traditional Liberal values, even though I was brought up with a Conservative grandmother.
Weird to see you call the communists genocidal but not the fascists as was it not the nationalist dictatorship which killed a lot of Brazilians in the 80s?
@@briannawaldorf8485 i think he meant people like Stalin or smth
Bolsonaro fans: People with kamikaze pilot levels of devotion to Bolsonaro. Believing he's the only non-corrupt politician and thus Brazil's only hope. Will often refer to him as "the president" to show respect. They tune in every day to hear his speeches, which they always inevitably agree 100% with. Unlike most Brazilians who avoid talking politics in social situations, they will gladly argue with close friends and family in his defense.
From their POV they are on an epic ideological war against "communism" and thus should provide the same loyalty you would expect from a soldier in a real war, any internal criticism within the right should be quickly stomped down as to not leave any chances to the enemy.
Centrists and leftists see them as emotionally and psycologically unstable sheeps. Moderate conservatives are embarassed by their chaotic behaviour even if they agree with them ideologically.
Political incorrect warrior: Basically the right wing counterpart of the swj. Very online and very americanized, love pepe, Trump, edgy memes and owning the libs. Whitest demograpic by far with brown PIWs being nearly unheard of. They support Bolsonaro but are too cynical and distrusting to become a loyalist.
8:00 - “The ethnic vote”
That reference lmao. Canadian political nerds or subs who remember your Famous Speeches video know what that’s referencing.
The reason that Quebec is still Canadian, lol
Your art is so underrated JJ -- the video was great, but your cartoon were a big reason I stayed invested while watching. Plus, the little chatters that play with each character were wonderful.
54:14 Thoughtslime, an anarchist channel I like, talks about Canadian politics plenty, actually
and I think another thing is that oftentimes these channels are less focused on the politics of elections and government agencies and more on the politics of social dynamics and power imbalance in global society, which many people just assume to mean that they are talking about the U.S., when really they are trying to talk about everywhere
I’ve seen his channel, he talks about how horrible canada is when he runs out of ideas or how to talk about how horrible America is
Interesting how J.J. can talk about the various "tribes" in our political system and many of those varried tribe members can be attracted and leave a message and yet it seems everyone is doing it in a respectful manner... well done J.J. as well as all the commenters who stated their own positions, while maintaining a certain courteous nature
Edit: and thanks for "The Log Driver's Waltz", lol, great Canadian intermission
I'm not one for CZcams Analytics. I have never cared for them at all... but with this video, I do want to know how many people will watch it all the way through. :D
Same lmao
Btw, Lucas, when's 2022 video coming? 😉
@@dead.dummy678 I already have a script and a couple of drawings :) Gonna film it soon... I think. 😅
Came to find this week's JJ and it was posted 10 seconds ago!
Honestly the Best ever video !! I’m rewatching a few times!
Love your videos! Keep it up J.J.! Your humour is really what gets me lol!
Love you taking a meme and making it genuinely educational. Also a big fan of those Animal Crossing type voices you gave all of them.
I've really enjoyed your videos on Canadian history, politics and culture. My Canadian friends (some who are students of politics and history) have a lot of knowledge of British politics but it's not reciprocated over here unfortunately.
Thanks to your videos, it's been a fantastic introduction to your country and I find your videos well-balanced, nuanced and intelligent.
I know some may have already asked but I think that a 35 tribes thing for the USA would be interesting
Probably one of my favorite videos by you! Amazing work!
Love this video. As an American, it would be awesome if you could do this for the US. Though I know I am not the first to comment this.
This was an amazing summary JJ. You're probably the only CZcamsr that I'm willing to watch an hour long video of.
Absolutely fascinating video. Concise and compelling with terrifically evocative little cartoons.
As an American transplant to Montreal who speaks (at least passable) French, I feel like I have to stick up a bit for the Bilingualist faction. I think it's a real shame that Canada isn't more thoroughly bilingual. Not only would it give Canada more influence internationally (where French is one of the fastest-growing languages in the world, thanks to Africa), but I think it would also make Canadian politics less "weird," as you say. It might just be wishful thinking on my part, but if French was more widely understood throughout Canada, politicians here wouldn't be able to play up Quebec as a fortress of 8 million French speakers constantly besieged by 350 million Anglos.
lol It indeed is wishful thinking. The only truely bilingual part of Canada is Montreal...They don't need to learn it and therefore won't. Canada never was bilingual, it was the forced association/attempted assimilation of a french working class with a ruling english class that transformed into what it is today. There is a big dichotomy between basically BC, the prairies, Quebec, Ontario and the atlantic provinces.
Also, Quebec bashing is still going strong and a lot of canadians don't want anything to do with the ''frogs'' ! The most probable outcome imo is Quebec finally seperating making Quebecers finally free of that unwanted federation and the rest of Canada finally free of ''those fkn frogs''. We'll see though, sovereignty in QC is at an all time high right now at around 40% ! (more than before the 95' referendum)
@@dez7800 That single poll from Le Devoir shows that support for Québec "sovereignty" (it never says independence) only commands a majority with people over the age of 55. I strongly suspect that many of those supporting Québec sovereignty in polls -- which, of course, have no real-world consequences -- are doing it to express their identity and pride.
Québec enjoys a high degree of autonomy while also reaping the benefits of being a part of the Canadian confederation. Unless something changes, I have a hard time seeing a majority support separation from the rest of Canada.
@@DVX_BELLORVM Sovereignty is synonym to independance. Or it is in French anyways.. It's the term used to define independentists in Québec. Independentists = sovereigntists. Also, polls do have real-world consequences as they are used to see how the population feels regarding something. As for the ''benefits'' of being in Canada, there aren't really that are worth being controlled by another nation. We receive the federal transfers but we basically send money to the federal government and they send back maybe a bit more but the federal decides in which program it's used and the federal makes a lot less investments in Quebec than in other provinces. All in all, not worth it.
If you aren't familiar with Quebec recent politics, the current premier of Québec was elected by the quebecers by basically saying he would make ''big gains'' from Ottawa in a bunch of different things: immigration, health transfers, a single provincial tax form, etc. And all of those numerous demands were denied by Trudeau. He is basically showing quebecers that gaining power from Ottawa for Québec within Canada is impossible which seems to be helping the independance movement since people see how futile it is...
The Century Initiative also was very badly received in Québec since if Canada reaches 100 million habitants in 2100, either Québec is no longer relevant in Canada or it's basically no longer going to be French.
@@dez7800 I have never heard anyone calling Quebecois "those fucking frogs", or even mention them negatively, really.
@@erenoz2910 Glad to hear that ! I've only received it as an insult in online games to be honest. Also in comments on social networks. However, I've often seen Quebecois and Quebec politics be ridiculed and discredited by CBC and other canadian media.
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When you got to the bit about Bilingualists, it made me think of something. Occasionally people in America get upset when someone speaks in a language other than English, at these times I'm tempted to say something about "They really should speak the official language." This is a joke, but because I don't think many Americans realize there is no official language for the USA, I'm afraid it would be taken the wrong way.
Most americans are well aware we have no official language, and less people become angry at hearing Spanish than media would have you believe. Spanish is increasingly spoken everywhere:
@@cardenova i’d have to agree, i’m from southern california and spanish is everywhere
@@cardenova not being able to at least passibly speak a second language, or at least like if the other person treated you as a young child is sign of small brain. europeans and many other places in the world are bilingual at minimum, with trilingualism being the average.
@@dankmemes8619 Another snobby European, I think it’s time we address the elephant in the room regarding this topic. the rest of the world (including europe) learns to speak a second language because they have to, politically and financially. not out of morality. during the middle ages, French was the most powerful language in the continent for centuries so about 1/3 of Brits continue that legacy. As for Canada, only Quebeckers are bilingual. Only 16% of Anglophone Canadians are actually bilingual. Australia and New Zealand have extremely low rates of bilingualism too. I wonder what all these countries have in common that Europe doesn’t 🤔 watching all your languages gradually go extinct due to American (and historically British) power fills me with pure joy. Also, all Americans are taught Spanish in school. Most retain some of it into adulthood.
@@cardenova cope
On the one hand I want to say this seems to be a very acceptable representation. On the other hand I’m aware that J.J. is my primary source of information on Canadian politics and thus naturally something that encapsulates how he views things will feel right to me.
I’m a Virginian middle schooler, why did I watch an hour of Canadian politics??
😌 i already know im gonna like this, i love the political in depth videos you do
Would be interesting to have that chart with the 35 tribes, but each logo be sized up according to its importance and popularity in Canada
I'd like it as a poster tbh.
As always JJ, thank you for the awesome video!!!
As an American working on making a life for myself in Canada, I'd like to applaud your ability to explain this rather trivial concept in a way that is both entertaining and practical. I'm able to pinpoint which categories i think some of my friends here, and even myself, fall under. Even if not many of them seem to take an active part in politics
You need to talk about Quebec politics for 2 hours now
Maybe in that two hours, he’ll have somehow a minute or two of positive things to say about us.
I enjoy most of his content, except for his reductive depiction of us.
maybe this is a better comment for a JJ QNA but I really gave to wonder how you got so damn good at talking to put it bluntly. I know you were on the news which explains some of the way you are able to keep things clear and cohesive even when you talk for an extended period about a topic. I am more interested in how you've blended that with a very friendly and charasmatic, but also kind of scholarly-at-times way of speaking, but also with plenty of unique quirks that add to your friendly, personable personality.
You can litterally lecture without it feeling like a lecture, and thats something (that should be) award winning, my friend.
Thanks so much for the kind words my friend they brightened my day! I honestly think a lot of it is just my training as a journalist, not just being on tv, but writing too. When you write as a columnist you have to write with a right word count and I think that forces you to think about what actually needs to be said and be more economic with your words.
@@JJMcCullough that makes a lot of sense. I remember that in HS I had a teacher who would purposfully assign short word counts on some assignments to bate the class into thinking they could get it done quickly, but he would tell you write about things, like say the Hindenberg disaster (this was a histoey class btw) in 30 words or less, which sounds very easy until you try to actually write something that doesn't sound basic and kind if similar to everyone elses. I think his idea was to strengthen our ability to concisely express our ideas. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts
I'm not Canadian, but I would certainly fit into the "climate doomer" category. The reason I believe this is something thats so popular with young people is because we are the ones who have grown are and are going to be the most affected generation, whereas the majority of politicians are old, and won't live to see the consequences of it.
i enjoyed this! especially the log drivers waltz