Are American & Canadian conservatives the same?
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- Are American and Canadian conservatives the same?
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As a conservative American myself, I would go farther and say that there are noticable differences between conservatives in different states (and not just Northern vs Southern conservatives).
I live in California. I tend towards libertarian views, as do my circle of conservative friends.
I have relatives in Arizona, where conservatives tend to be more populist and focus on preserving what they see as what makes their state great, so they emphasize border security, law enforcement, and anti-woke sentiments.
I also have relatives in Arkansas, deep in the Bible belt. Church plays a much bigger role in daily life there.
That’s an important point
Conservatism doesn't follow a political doctrine. In south america we still have old school communist who despide everything the liberals or woke represent. The same way someone can be libertarian but progressive at the same time.
Libertarians can be progressive too. Like communist used to be anti woke logic we still have in south america those kind of old school communist who hate the social ideas of the progressive left.
Some very good points. As an American conservative myself, I would also add that many Conservatives, libertarians, and Republicans do tend to view National politics through a wider lens, even when they’re really focusing more on specific issues more than others, based on their region, State, county, etc. Many populist issues, long attempted to be brushed aside, do seem to have a genuine overall national appeal, interestingly enough. To various degrees still of course.
We have similar regional differences in Canada. Western Canadian conservatives tend to be associated with small government, low taxes, pro-oil, ruralism and social conservativism ('Don't tread on me' types). Ontarian Conservatives are associated with small government, pro-business, family values, and law & order (Business moguls and upper middle-class suburbanite types). Quebec Conservatives are heavily associated with social conservativism, Catholic values, family, and ethno-nationalism (Quebec for Quebecois - types). East Coast Cons are the 'moderates': generally wishy-washy on any of the Conservative pillars, more concerned with getting resources to their provinces than with ideological concerns.
As a Canadian citizen, I have to admit that I know a lot more about the politics of the U.S.A than my own country. I find that it's really difficult to find any digestible information in regards to our politics; leaving it difficult to even get your foot in, so to speak.
Thanks J.J. for being one the only resources I have found that actually goes into any depth about my own Nation's inner workings. I LOVE it! ☺☺
There is this thing called the house of commons and CPAC it's about as digestible as you can get... I suggest you start watching both. There is ZERO excuse for not knowing what is going on.
@@matthewq4bI’d say JJ offers a better platform than those programs. Even TVO, where we hear from public servants directly is entirely anecdotal. It’s a quality issue more than anything. These people quite literally have nothing to say.
@@matthewq4bbut the windows and information sharing is there.
@@ryancharlebois1043 Think about what you just said and give your head a shake. You just said SOMEONE ELSE'S interpretation is is better than the ACTUAL source material... And we wonder why the dumbing down of society is occuring. There ya go folks ryancharlebois1043 gave us the perfect example of room temp IQ dumbing down in real time.
most news outlets do a decent job of providing info on the political parties during elections. Also wikipedia.
My biggest complaint about Canadian politics is Canadian media is obcessed with American politics. If only
they would give as much time towards Canadian politics, Canadians would be more informed about what goes
on in Canada. Very little news about the House of Commons daily activities, little about what happens in different committees
and nothing about the Senate. And the media offers too much in opinions about Canadian politics than reporting about what goes on.
That’s because the Canadian Parliament doesn’t matter. It’s a rubber stamp on what the Prime Minister wants.
Anyone noticed the irony of the Canadian medias, traditionally left-wing anti-American, have now embraced the all-American Trump derangement thing in their content?
Trudeau Sr. summed best about the Canada US relationship: "Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt,"
Also, this about attention. Canadian politics is boring. American politics is bat shit crazy, and hence way more entertaining.
@@martinzarathustra8604I honestly prefer learning about Canadian politics, the provincial conflicts like some that may occasionally occur with Quebec or Alberta giving attitude are honestly quite intriguing, alongside Canada’s struggle to be an environmentally sustainable country in a midst of running on environmentally unsustainable practices, a topic that could easily be covered the next time the West burns down or a coastal town floods. There’s a lot that could be shared or covered on in Canadian media in general, history as well, the fact I only knew about events like The October Crisis or The Halifax Explosion after attending Grade 10 history class is disheartening.
I think a big difference that didn't really get mentioned is the relative lack of evangelical Christians among the Canadian conservative base. That's not to say that Canada doesn't have evangelicals, we do, but they make up a much smaller proportion of the electorate so their views are not really taken into account to the same extent. I think that's part of the reason why Canada's conservatives are much further left than republicans on issues such as gay marriage, abortion and euthanasia, amongst others.
Also, there is a history of evangelicals on the left in Canada. Think of the Reverend Tommy Douglas.
Abortion and euthanasia are not nearly as popular among conservatives as you may think. Gay marriage is tolerated so they can win because most Canadians are too wishy washy on values to care about gay marriage.
In talking about extremes,
US right wingers are more like Iran. Religous to all hell and nationalistic.
Canadas right wing is more like the Nazis. Nationalistic, but science based and athiestic.
The liberal party is more like INGSOC. Authoritarian to all hell hellbent on power above ideology.
NDP is more like the USSR under lennin or trotsky.
The Evangelical block basically controls who becomes leader of the party. No leader has ever been elected without them.
@@JJMcCullough It seems though that they are kind of ignored by the Party afterwards. They play a big part in the party election. Still, I think that's because there's a selection bias that there are far more evangelicals among the party votership than in the wider population that may vote Conservative. The wider Canadian population I think is heavily turned off by Evangelicals, so their talking points get left behind once a new party leader is elected (e.g.,, Has Pollievre once been spotted praying, making an allusion to Christianity, or campaigning on a Christian platform?).
as an american my personal gripe is that politics are almost hyped up like sporting events where you have the 2 teams and its all about wins and losses in elections and that is literally more important than anything else including policies and performance once in office its like once the elections are over it doesnt matter what happens as long as your team won more seats its sad
Yes. It doesn’t help too that only those really interested in the races come out to primaries. Thus you get maybe at best 20% of the party controlling things and often it’s first past the post so you get pluralities of a plurality controlling the parties. The democrats though are more top down and try to limit this in their primaries and caucuses iirc.
Studies have shown with the polarization of US politics, it is not what you believe in, it is what you are against. Exactly, it is Just like a sports team mentality. Just win by any margin and you are the winner of the game. They use to say in politics "you can run in a campaign from a far side, but you need to work from the center when you are in to stay elected." That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I am 63 years old, and have voted in 23 elections. Your right, it is sad. Almost like living in 2 countries. It use to not be this way.
Main reason for that is the current electoral system in the US. Without European style electoral reform that would emplement multiparty system this radicalisation and division of the America will only grow.
Fucking bingo. It’s very common to hear people say politicians only care about money or maybe power. Neither all really true, at least not today. Everything I’ve seen would indicate that politicians are also just humans, and they care more about winning than even their voters do. And that they care more about winning than money, power, or pushing policies that fit their worldview
'Are American and Canadian conservatives different?'
You JJ are a prime example of why they are different
A conservative, conserves values and traditions. How can there be many different types?
@@seekfirstthekingdom4388 What I have noticed aboit Conservatives is that they hold beliefs and retroactively pretend they are traditional
Eg. About a third of the workforce were women before WW2. But Conservatives think that women's place is looking after the home. Only rich women ever did that
Edit: The Ayatolla is Conservatives. The CCP is Conservative. How can you not think Conservatives can be different even if they think traditions and hierarchy are important
So true! I could never spend this much time watching an American conservative talk about politics, but JJ is one of my favorite CZcamsrs, mostly for the ways he shows intellectual honesty, sensitivity to difference, and sensibleness when it comes to evaluating ideas across the spectrum, that i never see from Republicans etc
@@seekfirstthekingdom4388different values and traditions from different places, what's traditional in one place isn't in other.
@@ASB-is-AOKthis is too true
Great video, Mr. McCullough. Now do the comparison between American and Canadian liberals.
You want to compare the Liberal Party or the NDP to Democrats
@@parkmannate4154it would be the liberal party. NDP is way too far to the left for that (more than the liberals already are)
@@cheenis420 The NDP is more like the Bernie Sanders wing of the Democratic Party and the Liberals are more like the mainstream Democrats.
@@parkmannate4154 NDP is more to the left like the Green Party in the US. Liberal party would be more analogous to American democrats
@@parkmannate4154At current time they would be the same as their leadership is virtually indistinguishable with no meaningful difference in policy position.
There’s another big difference between the political landscapes of the US and Canada. Any party that wishes to rule Canada must win the votes of Québec. That’s difficult for the Conservatives because the Conservative party had been associated as anti-French for so long. Any Canadian who wishes to become the prime minister is expected to be bilingual in English and French and care about Québec’s issues the most.
Harper won a majority with doing very poorly in Quebec.
Right now the CPC is polling over 50% in English Canada, estimated to win 200 seats next election, all the while getting trounced in Quebec.
Must win the vote in Quebec? That hasn't been true since the founding of the Bloc in 1993. With an average seat count of 36, the separatists have reduced the count of seats that can apply to choosing the PM to a rump of 42.
The Conservatives don't need Quebec seats. Harper won without them. If elected today, the Quebec outcome would be an irrelevant footnote in a Polievre majority.
It was Western Canada that torpedoed the Conservatives for 10 years by adopting Reform, as much to oppose the power of Quebec in conservative politics as for any other reason.
Prairie interests now matter far more than trying to lean in to liberal Quebec interests for a handful of fickle French seats.
Last polls proved it might not be the case(anymore). Conservatives could win a landslide majority with only 10 seats in Qc.
Harper did it 3 times without Quebec. And a majority once.
Quebec doesn’t matter mathematically, but the conservatives do care about being popular there for idiosyncratic, moral/patriotic reasons which probably does play a role in the moderation as well, since Quebec is so left wing.
Ayn Rand the anti religious atheist is a fine example of the uneasy fit of the alliance of of conservatives and libertarians
To be fair, it would also be a very uneasy fit the alliance of libertarians and leftists. Personally I consider left-libertarians/libertarian socialists clowns and walking contradictions so, an alliance between moderate conservatives and libertarians seems far more suitable.
I'm an American from Massachusetts. The first guy shown in the "Republican party in northern states are more like Canadian conservatives' segment was our Governor for 8 years. Charlie Baker, the most moderate Republican in the bluest of Blue States and ranked the most popular Governor in the Country for a good portion of his term in office.
What did he get done that was beneficial to Conservatism long-term?
I'm also from Massachusetts. It is important to note that he was deposed by a large proportion of the Republican base in the state.
@@robertortiz-wilson1588
Dominance in the executive and some attenuation of leftist policy, which is saying a lot considering that Massachusetts has a massive Democratic majority in the legislature.
Governors Larry Hogan, Chris Sununu, and Governor Phil Scott, have all been favored very well and considered by many to be the most popular governors out of all the rest in the nation. All moderate Republicans... my own former governor, George Pataki, wasn't even that moderate by comparison but was still liked by most New Yorkers back then-- since he left office the idea of a Republican governor in New York has gotten nearly unfathomable
Phil Scott of Vermont is another one like that, and has been able to win Assad-level margins despite being a Republican governor in what is usually the bluest state in the country in presidential contests.
I just wanted to say that while I don't always agree with every point you make in your videos I do appreciate the perspective and thoughtful presentation of them. This is why I subscribed and keep watching, even though I'm not a conservative myself. Your point on Canada's Urbanisation rate compared to the U.S. was spot on for how that characteristic of the Canadian population has shaped both parties and the broader Canadian political academia/Intelligentsia. While it remains to be seen how Smith's public ploy will turn out, I can;t imagine the federal conservatives are very pleased about their lack of control over it and its messaging.
I disagree with the premise that Canadian conservatives aren't overly patriotic. When we saw the trucker convoy and F Trudeau protests you saw a majority of them with Canadian flags everywhere, people attaching hockey sticks to their trucks, etc.
I think the difference is that it's a relatively rare occurrence compared to the US.
Most of those displays of patriotism (except the hockey sticks) are imports from the US. Even most of these moral panics seem to come from down south. Those imports, and their republican simping makes me nervous.
True. Although, most right-wingers would say today that Canada is dying. While the left-wingers might say Canada is thriving.
People on the right aren't going to stand up and shout that Canada is this great place to live, while they witness the allowance of the ever-expanding MAID services and Sexual reassignment surgery to be a core part of society which the left-wingers fully support.
I don't know if you're aware, but the trucker convoy was about lockdowns due to COVID, not for patriotic reasons to protest against the government. Also, I just wanted to be sure, when you're talking about the "f Trudeau" line, which specific moment are you referring to? There are so many, but the most common and popular one brought up is during the 2021 election where people were throwing stuff at Trudeau, and the most recent one where the Supreme Court ruled that Trudeau's emergency act was invalid. In response, people were insulting him because of those acts. In my eyes, I feel that since Trudeau is a very divisive figure to a large portion of Canadians, it sort of makes sense that they would be saying these kinds of things to show their disdain. (There was a similar case that happened to George W. Bush once the war in Iraq happened. People started doing the same thing as they did to Trudeau.) And for the emergency act, it makes sense that people would say "f Trudeau" at that moment because people felt that the people doing the protest were harshly treated and were showing there discontent of the gouvernement for performing such an act. Anyway that's all I have to say. I hope that what I said didn't come of as harsh. My goal wasn't to make a hit piece but simply point out some stuff that I didn't fully agree on. Anyway I wish you a good day amigos and wish you the best.
@@ImpulseToAdrenaline Thats the crazy talking, becuase of cousre MAID was court ordered as an individual right. As is sexual reassignment.
Ironically those on the right are protesting two things which were BOTH patently brought in as protections on an individuals civil liberties.
Which is somewhat hypocrtical, "I want my guns, but I don't give a shit about your rights".
Healthcare is a GIANT difference.
Not really, most Americans have their healthcare costs covered with private insurance and what many people from outside the u.s. do not know is that we have a supplementary healthcare insurance program for people who are either unemployed or are below the poverty line so while we don’t have universal healthcare it really is not that bad for the vast majority of Americans
Also keep in mind the taxes
@@Poopyhead304 healthcare premiums are private taxes
@@Poopyhead304"Covered" is a strong word.
There's co-pays and refusal to cover certain procedures.
@@Poopyhead304 Yes Really. I’m talking about parties. Both Canadian political parties support the single payer system. Both major parties in America don’t. Only a faction of elected Democrats support Medicare for All.
It's so refreshing to hear intelligent disourse from a conservative with a Canadian accent. Good work
As a canadian i think a conservative would be comparable to a centrist democrat leaning to the right...
I mean, you couldnt be more wrong on this.
@@gotenks5633 why??? ...u can pik the biggest canadian trump supporter but they would never give up our universal health care for trumps model...that alone makes canadian consevatives differ from trump...were not stupid in canada...we dont want to lose our house/ life savings/ vacations/ kids university savings ..because our wife got cancer.....in canada we got universal..and choice of private care....dont like it?? Pack your bags and head to the states and pay full out ..just stop whining..karen!!!
No he's not, how so? Vast majority of Canadian Conservatives would never ban abortions nation wide@@gotenks5633
there are a lot of people the Online Political Discord that I called "Intellectually Americanized" who judge internal Politics of other Countries based upon American Politics and most of these people are not even American, The kind of people that Label Bukele and Milei as "Conservative and Right-wingers" very frustrating to be honest trying to explain the background story while they just used "Daily Show Talking points" to described people they dont like but they know nothing about
Milei is very right-wing.
Bukele comes from the social democratic left but abandoned it for a sort of authoritarian populism that I'm not willing to explicitly call right-wing at this point.
We measure foreigners as being right wing based on that list of values I explained
I’ve had many chats with my Canadian conservative elderly friend of the family. He’s full on QAnon and says all the exact same messaging that fuels the far-right in MAGA, same Soros conspiracies, same anti-vaccine stuff, same WTO/New World Order stuff.
Milei is a libertarian lol
@@diegoarmando5489 Milei is Paleolibertarian, i.e Libertarian who is very socially conservative.
People need to stop propping-up Tucker Carlson like he’s some intellectual or journalist.
Same with the mentally unstable Jordan Peterson.
I don't know if they're the same, but they follow similar patterns. In the 50s, both Republicans and conservatives had relatively moderate leaders who were ok with the welfare state. In the 80s, both loved the idea of the free market and deregulation and in the 2000s, both had leaders who were evangelicals. It only makes sense the Tories would tap in to the right-wing populist movement.
Liberalism is fasciism in Canada .. so I just want to vote 'liberalism' which is what right wing politics are in the states. Mandates, censorship, government funding news, algorithmic control of internet, disarmament, are all fasciist but our 'liberals' are really fasciists here in Canada. Trump is anti war, unlike the leftist side. The leftist side USED to be anti war.
Who was the Canadian Evangelical Leader?
@@jimrichards7014 Stephen Harper
@@MrMike855 Harper is about as Evangelical as water is Kool-Aid.
@@Tomyum19 So he is evangelical with powder added and thoroughly mixed?
I personally think comparing Poilievre to Trump is not a good strategy for Trudeau. 1. Because it’s a silly comparison and most people recognize this. They have very little in common. 2. Because Trump is likely to take office again come November and being on Trump’s bad side is never a good thing. The Liberals need to be very careful.
I've seen a poll recently saying more Canadians thought Poilievre was more qualified to deal with Trump (new protectionist measures) than Trudeau. So the Liberal's strategy is doomed to fail.
@@lajya01 The Liberals already sold out Canada during NAFTA negotiations in 1994.
Isn’t Bernier from PPC more like Trump anyway
I’ve been teaching hs US history and government classes for 18 years and find your videos on US and Canada entertaining and incredibly informative. Keep up the excellent work. Love the politics but my favorite video, which i use in my US History II classes is your video on American Foods around the world
Oh yes, my most popular video of all time!
What a lot of people don't know is Jordan Peterson and Rachel Notley grew up in the same small town and about the same age.
Wow.
Contemporary Canadian politics is Alberta and Quebec duking it out over welfare payments. Nearly all major figures are Albertan centered or Quebecois centered.
Jordan also worked under her dad, Grant Notley (NDP Leader at the time).
@@dominickstephenson3542 is this why he became how he is? Did he hate him?
@TheBrunohusker no he got along well with the leadership at the time it was the social activists that he didn't feel fond about. His criticisms are mostly targeted towards the contemporary left, which is mostly controlled by the sjw people.
Another award winning video. Great job JJ.
I can attest to what J.J. is saying about how the Republicans act in the North versus the South. My mom has lived a slight majority of her life in either New England or upstate New York, and a lot of that time was in Boston, and besides for a couple years in Hungary she's spent the rest of her life in Virginia, although most of that has admittedly been in a suburb of DC which is just as liberal as DC is (DC has voted exclusively democratic in presidential elections for longer than literally any state in the union, I'm not certain about this part but I think it may have never voted for a Republican candidate), and she has told me about the very stark diffeeences between the Republicans and Democrats in the state politics of Massachusetts and Virginia. As she has put it, the Massachusetts Republicans and Virginia Democrats are very roughly about the same ideologically.
That’s about right though it’s not the same every where in the north. I live in Iowa and while we don’t have the religious fervor of down south, it’s still around in pockets and still influences many. Same in Wisconsin, and even more solidly Democratic Minnesota, though it’s also an urban/rural divide as more rural republicans are in the Trump crowd alike suburban ones aren’t as much.
It's interesting how you brought up how the GOP and Liberals are seen as the natural governing parties but if you went back to the New Deal Era up to Nixon or maybe even Reagan, the Democrats were the dominant force in American politics (especially in the Congress) and Canada's political culture started off much more conservative and authoritarian, in opposition to the American Revolution in the 1800s
I’m talking about living memory
@@JJMcCullough Yeah I'm just bringing up an interesting anecdote. Fascinating how a country's political culture can change
This patriotism inversion in Canada is really unique. In Slovenia, for instance, the right wing parties are usually on the back foot, with left wing parties most commonly in the majority. But we never see such an inversion. The right wingers remain strongly patriotic, but simultaniously critical of pretty much every aspect of this country. Whereas the left really tries to lean into this European universalism and pain any display of patriotic pride as dangerous nationalism
in romania both the left and right-wing parties are staunchly nationalistic, but the centrists are the ones buying into european universalism
I would take that point with a grain of salt... Conservatives are quite patriotic in Canada.
@@akemrelax9762patriotism is a loaded word. Canadian Nationalism is defined historically with anti-Americanism by different parties on different times.
I think the existence of the NDP also complicates things in an interesting way. The Liberals have to compete with the NDP for voters on the far left, which necessarily opens space in the middle that the Conservatives can fight for, essentially without cost, because there’s no one competing for their voters on the right.
I kinda wonder if the PPC will eventually grow into a similar role, forcing the Conservatives to fight similar battles the Liberals fight with the NDP and giving the Liberals room to become a more moderate party.
Might just be wishful thinking though.
@@john.10347Except that they are cratering their base support by playing political games with their constituencies, enough to effectively cut their popular support in half shown in virtually every poll. Not a good outlook for their coalition.
@@john.10347 that's not how election day works. Liberals and NDP don't add to each others totals... they compete on the day splitting votes. A coalition after the fact does not negate that they are in competition with each other.
PPC voters would rarely consider voting for the CPC. It's PPC or stay home.
The PPC is dying a slow death they are not far right, they are another party led by the laurentian political elite they are the right leaning branch of the liberals. They are a non starter for anyone sporting more than a room temp IQ.
I doubt it. The Canadian right is not nationalistic or fascist. At best, their extremist group would be the libertarian party.
The libertarian party would be the better "right wing NDP" in this case imo.
From 1776 on, the whole point of being Canadian was to not be American. "Conservative" Americans fled north to found British-North America, which, coupled with French-Canada being even more anti-American for fear of being smothered by the republic to the south (think religion, for one thing). So the political culture was dependent on being part of the British Empire. So Canadian "conservatism" had little in common with the United States.
In fact, it was Canadian Liberals that promoted "Reciprocity" (free trade) with the US as early as the late 19th century, only to be handily defeated by Canadian Conservatives who invoked the British connection.
Fear of absorption into the US dominated Canadian politics until the 1920s. Until 1931, the Canadian "Defense Scheme No.1" was a plan to defend the country from an American invasion.
Only after WW2 did the Canadian political perspective begin to change and soften about fears of the American behemoth to the south. But Canada also changed in ways that would not lead to a convergence with American political culture. Quebec gained a much greater weight in Cdn politics with the Quiet Revolution, guided by the Liberal Party. Saskatchewan was the birthplace of universal health care under a pre-NDP "socialist" coalition, a program co-opted by the Liberals under Pearson and Trudeau.
The Canadian conservative movement has been largely adrift federally until basically Mulroney, who negotiated the Free Trade Agreement with the US. Provincially, Ontario Tories lost power after 40 years governing Canada's wealthiest province. But federal Conservatives have found their center of gravity basically in central Canada and the oil export culture. That's a very different ball of wax from American conservatism.
JJ respect ur channel. But I live in the U.K. anyone selling conservatives to Canadians does not wish well for Canadians well. We just wiped out our conservatives in the U.K, but we are now wishing to go back in time to the liberal govt we had 14 years ago.
Conservatives are the same everywhere. Conmen grifting. They have no ideas or solutions for real economic issues
18:00 - I think you are spot on for the pundit to politician route, I can't think of any example of that happening and sounds, yea, kinda distasteful. However, the opposite route from politician to pundit happens regularly, even for some truly toxic political actors like Oliver North. A comparison that comes to mind is with professional sports: very often there are former players and coaches that become commentators and analysts, but the opposite seems absurd.
The only time I can think of it happening in American politics is if the former commentator is hired for an explicitly communications job. One of Trump’s press secretaries was a former Fox News commentator if I recall correctly. And I think he hired another one for some other similar PR related position.
@@JJMcCulloughI’m pretty sure you are referring to Steve Bannon.
@@JJMcCullough Oh hey, you're right; McEnany made appearances on panels for CNN and Fox Business for a year or two before being hired as a Trump spokesperson, then press sec.
@@Abs0luteCha0sno I’m not but he’s a good example too.
@@JJMcCullough oh ok
As an Albertan I am very concerned with the direction the United conservatives are moving ☹️
I was horrified Tucker Carlson was invited to our province and she shared a stage with him 😬
Well you’re in the minority then. From Medicine Hat.
What's wrong with Tucker Carlson? He loves freedom and is a great speaker from what I've seen
@@coopdaill hopefully I’m not in the minority by the next election 🙂
@@wyleFTW I respectfully disagree with both of your statements.
@@donnasloan894 if you're interested in podcasts it was his appearance on the lex Friedman podcast that impressed me
As an American leftist, who knows that you have conservative beliefs (within Canada at least), I can watch most of your videos through to the end, enjoying many of your videos. I don't think I could do that with an American conservative's videos, without the urge to throw something across the room. I seem to disagree with you on some pieces of politics, but you seem like a reasonable person, and I feel like we are at least working with the same set of facts, even if we have different interpretations. I often feel that American conservatives do not have the same view of the truth as I do, and they are living in a different universe
wow, this is a sign to leave your echo chamber, leftists don’t have a monopoly on “truth”
The truth doesn't require a view, and the left certainly doesn't hold a monopoly on it.
The Unabomber is right about leftists
This sounds like mental illness.
Yeah they live in a different universe, one that is pragmatic and realistic unlike the universe you pretend to live in.
Wait the Canadian Supreme Court has upheld abortion as a right (indirectly, they’ve said criminalizing abortion is unconstitutional) but same outcome - “R v Morgentaler, [1988] 1 SCR 30 was a decision of the Supreme Court of Canada which held that the abortion provision in the Criminal Code was unconstitutional because it violated women's rights under section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms ("Charter") to security of the person.”
11:04 What is interesting is even though northern Republicans are more moderate, they have gotten more conservative in recent election cycles as Trump’s grip on the party has strengthened. And it’s costed the GOP many suburban state legislative, house, governor, and senate seats since Trump first became president. But it has also boosted Republicans in rural white working class areas.
I'm from Australia 🇦🇺 and I do not have a clue what's going on politically. But good video made me think about the differences of American conservative ideologies and Canadian conservatives. I at some point thought there was little difference, but i see it differently. Thank you for posting this!
JJ doesn't really mention it, but historically, there's been a large gap between the two. Modern Canadian conservativism began in the early 90s with the Reform party (where Nigel Farage took the namesake for the UK version) and a push for more American style market liberalism. Historically however, Canadian Conservatives were much more collectivist. Canada was settled quite a bit before Australia, so we inherited the older British tradition of High Toryism (known in Canada as Red Toryism). As far as I know, we are the only commonwealth country to have done so. Even after Reform, the tendency of Toryism lives on, and the best example of the contrast is seen in Ben Shapiros interview of former PM Stephen Harper.
I think why "normies" are put off by Tucker being there is fear for our politics becoming more like the USA. Canadians can still have proper debates and discussions on policy between the left and right. While USA politics relies on repetitive rhetoric, and personal attacks.
I think the U.S primary system in general also lead to the Republican party being perceived as far more radical than the voting base of that party. This is because 1. the hardcore voting base of primaries is more extreme than the average GOP voter and more recently 2. it encourages many more candidates to run, especially the more moderate ones. There hasn’t been a case I can think of where a bunch of hardcore MAGA candidates ran, splitting the vote and leading to a moderate victory nominee whereas there are plenty of times where there were multiple more moderate non MAGA candidates who split the vote leading to a Trump candidate victory.
If the rank-and-file Republicans really feel that way, they need to give Joe Biden such a landslide, that "electability" will become an issue in future Republican primaries.
I’m sorry this is completely off, the rightwing voter base is much further to the right than anything the GOP propagates; the truth is that the right wing voter is not accurately represented by the republicans - Trump is the one that got closest in a very long time and hence the rabid support. If what you were saying was true, then the leftists would be nominating far left socialists as their candidates but they simply do not have the voter base to accomplish this. That’s because Americans are far more to the right. That’s why the democrats nominated are further right than anything you see in Canada, too. There's a reason why you don't see a RHINO equivalent on the democrat side; republicans are further right than their representatives.
I think Smith's action is definitely a "wave" of the future. As you stated numerous times, Canadian conservatives have envied their US counterparts and as national boundaries blur during ideological movements, it only makes sense that Conservatives will further embrace the Republicans and hope to tap into that energy as US conservatives have cheered on their Canadian allies with every misstep by Trudeau.
Will it be a winning strategy? Maybe. But will it continue, I think most assuredly.
Parents don't want the state to have more a say than them in their families. That's all it is. Nothing to do with America.
It is Liberals that import culture wars into Canada. Just consider how much attention African-Canadians get relative to their actual part of Canadian history. Reactionary gun laws by leftists to events in America. Hyperbolizing the positives of Canadian healthcare relative to American, more Liberal propaganda. Consider abortion in Canada, there's a strong argument it's morally disgusting to force people to pay for that via socialized healthcare, but that's not even considered; but it's never framed in such a way in leftist circles, it's simplified like American leftists do as a "women's rights issue" - which is bonkers. Then consider the reactions in Canada to Americans trying to fix their abortion laws. It's nearly always leftist Canada that imports and engages in American culture wars. Even the trucker convoy, an incredibly Canadian issue due to the vaccines we had and the policies we had, with the politics we have, was simplified by leftists to "it's just American politics coming up north hurr durrr".
Anglo Leftist Canada psychologically defines itself as being "not America" so they are constantly reacting and playing to American culture wars instead things that actually effect Canada. They have no idea of anything, at all. They get a distorted view of America, and apply it to their own country, that they also barely understand.
Not "cheered on" so much as "heavily financed." The kind of political interference where we'd be pretty pissed off if Russia was doing it (I'm pretty pissed off about it). I hate Trudeau but you have to do it in the election.
@@nimrodery ^this
Very good (condensed) summary of a difficult question to answer. Could easily have spent hours. Well done.
One thing I would change here is that in recent years, in the us, the foreign policy issues beliefs have changed. More democrats now support more interventionist policies abroad, and less republicans do the same. This is mainly due to the rise of the "America First" ideology from trump, which specifically promotes essentially not caring about what happens in other countries, especially Ukraine. Legislation like aid to Ukraine and more aggressive policies against Russia are mostly supported by those on the left, showing another weird shift here in the US due to trump's "unconventional" rhetoric.
Also I will add here that this has led to a more general shift of democrats towards some values once seen as more conservative, like the belief that your country is morally superior and has a duty to promote that in other countries, and increased funding for the military.
Hi JJ, one thing that underlies some of what you discussed in your video is that in Canada the provincial and national parties and systems are mostly independent of each other, and I've never heard a good explanation of this (other than "history"). Danielle Smith is part of the United Conservative Party of Alberta while Doug Ford is part of the Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario. But Pierre Poilievre is part of the Conservative Party of Canada. If Danielle Smith or Doug Ford were successful Republican state governors in the US, they'd be talking about running for US president or the US senate (and as part of the Republican party), but instead they're focused on provincial and not national politics and office. And of course Justin Trudeau never held a provincial office but has only ever served in Parliament.
I actually blame bilingualism a lot for this. It’s basically impossible to transfer from provincial to federal politics because of the bilingualism requirements. If you didn’t have to be perfectly fluent in French to be prime minister I think there would be premiers running for the top job.
@@JJMcCullough I mean, this wouldn't have been a problem if canada actually let us leave like we wanted 😂
Hi! I’m a democrat from Nashville! Would like to let you know that we exist and are very unhappy with our state government!
I’m very unhappy with you and I hope you move to California.
I remember the old days when your state often went Dem or the GOP were considerate moderates. Lamar Alexander would be cursed as a RINO
always so fascinating to hear the differences laid out like this in a very moderated, non-judgmental way. Super informative. Thank you so much!
Really interesting video here. I appreciate your focus on structures and history rather than personalities and value judgements! Its very insightful.
As a European, dane, its super interesting to watch American politics, through a Canadian lens. Our system is way more similar to the Canadian
I think another big difference is the level of polarization in Canada vs the US. Most of the people I know would not call themselves “liberals” or “conservatives” but vote based on those parties current platforms with at least some degree more willingness to switch between parties in elections. Also from my experience it’s considered somewhat poor taste to ask how people vote in Canada as it implies that it should determine your status in someone else’s eyes, idk if this is the same in the US.
Loved this, please make one about the left-wing in politics Canada & USA now!
So-called left wing politics are not in JJ’s wheelhouse.
The US barely has a left wing, and Canada doesn’t fare much better, even with the NDP.
The Overton Window is very far-right compared to the European countries who seem to have figured out everything us Americans & Cold Americans keep fighting over.
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@@al_eggsthis take is honestly a meme. Eutopeans are more left vis a vis welfare state and government role in some important societal institutions (ie: edu, health). But recent events demonstrate clearly that there is a formiddable right streak vis a vis social issues.
@@chillin5703 That’s true that far-right sentiments are spreading overseas (I’d say to an extremely concerning degree,) but the status quo is much more left-wing.
Another thing that might shock Americans is that the most conservative provinces in Canada, Alberta and Saskatchewan supported socialist policies. Tommy Douglas the Premier of Saskatchewan introduced the first single-payer, universal health care program. Many of the settlers of Alberta and Saskatchewan were also Ukrainian, and they played a significant role in the development of the provinces and culture. It's why support for Ukraine is bipartisan in Canada unlike the USA.
The support for Ukraine in the US is more establishment vs anti-establishment than party
Tommy Douglas was NDP not conservative. I don’t think it would shock Americans that a socialist introduced Medicare for all.
That’s cool but let’s see ur government foot the bill, devaluing your own currency.
@@JJMcCullough The shocking part was that conservative Saskatchewan voted for a socialist in the first place and who was in power for so many years.
@@jackbenny4458 Its not that shocking. Tommy Douglas was a Baptist Pastor. You can bet your bottom dollar Tommy Douglas was more conservative than 95% of modern Canadian conservatives. The Prairie NDP party was made up mostly of trade unionists rather than outright pinko commies. Today the NDP resembles nothing of its 20th century self. Most NDP voters today are rich urban young people in Toronto and Vancouver.
I get very annoyed with the comparison, because Canadian conservatives are often painted as American far-right conservatives, but Canadian conservatives are far more accepting than the American counterpart. I mean that I am publicly gay and I can be in the party with a zero issues. But in the Americas I would be judged and possibly pushed outside
Trump had high-ranking gay people in his administration
@@JJMcCullough that may be the case but the Republican culture isn't approving of homosexuality. Trump was and is an oddity.
@@avroarchitect1793trump has made a Chasm between Reagan era republicans on gay issues
It depends on the region,
Republicans in the Northeast (like myself) and the West tend to be totally ok with LGB (and even T to a certain extent) while Republicans in the Midwest are somewhat hostile and are outright hostile in most of the south. Trump is from the Northeast and his attitude toward gay rights is very much a reflection of the general gop attitudes here.
Ultimately depends on the group of american conservatives. Most will welcome you, the common point of ire with american right-wing and LGBT is the T and woke ideology, not the G. Nobody has a problem with gay people so long as they're not trying to force everyone's politics into their lives like a Carnivore putting hamburger onto a Vegan's salad mid-meal.
Realistically speaking, being gay isn't really relevant, outside of maybe the bible belt, people don't like it when you subvert something they love just to serve a political agenda and not to write something of quality that can be enjoyed in another way, go figure.
Most in America do not think the LG or B have anything wrong, while the DSM-5 declares gender dysphoria (aka the belief you aren't supposed to be the gender you were born as) as a mental illness, and mental illnesses are becoming more and more known as an imbalance between the body, the mind, and whatever the spirit really is.
The people in America who hate gay people enough to exclude them are less than 0.0001% of Americans, ultimately. Also, Left-wingers are equally likely to hate someone to a similar degree depending on their gayness, but with them it's usually always framed by "how much do you support my side", again, exceptions exist and sometimes the exceptions are framed as majorities because a news station will get brownie points with their sponsors for doing so, or the owners are explicitly pushing the agenda.
Great video: one small correction -- Republicans can't always take the Southern states for granted. Virginia and lately Georgia have shifted more blue, and while Florida is currently quite red, it was a tossup state recently
I disagree with the "common american civilization" part which bundles US and Canada together. IMO, both these countries have foundational differences encompassing many historical events. Additionally, the Canadian definition of multiculturalism is very different from that of the US. Most migrants to the US assimilate very well, the US is like a salad bowl while Canada is like a food plate with every dish segregated. Furthermore, I still think the United States is far more migrant friendly compared to Canada, Canada just advertises well. Also, the US society in general values free speech much more than in the great white north.
These are extremely subtle differences that a lot of people barely notice, if they even exist at all.
Possibly yes, but being a complete outsider to both of the countries. I found Canadians to be far more conformist than Americans for instance. And this attitude can be seen in other aspects of life too, maybe its my personal experience, idk. But given my 10 year stint in NA, I can easily identify within 5 minutes of conversation if I am talking to an American or a Canadian.
@@rishav1654 I don’t believe you. I’ve lived in Canada my whole life and I can’t do that.
Haha, sure man, have been following you for long. Pretty sure you are not like that, I just stated my observations haha.
People always say that multiculturalism is different in Canada and the US but it ultimately ends up being the same. 2nd-gen Americans/Canadians are indistinguishable from each other.
This video is very well made, but I do disagree with the "Republicans Always Win the South" statement. That's not really true as Virginia, Georgia, North Carolina, and now even Texas are swing states or just barely Republican. I would say the Republican "Always Win" section are the Great Plains, Northern Rockies, and now Florida.
Just to explain further, although Florida was once seen as the most decisive and important Swing State, it is now pretty solidly Republican due to a mix of Republican immigrants from other areas of the US and immigrants from Socialist or Post-Socialist countries who dislike the left wing.
Texas used to be the Republican California, a giant state that always votes their party. Although I do believe it will stay that way for maybe 2 more elections, it is increasingly becoming more and more close percentage wise. Unless a big change happens, its wise to say that Texas is the next Swing State.
@@bebus6884South Carolina is not a swing state and while Texas may be soon (it's always around the corner 😂) it is not now.
@@TopherWheeler My bad! I must've gotten Georgia and South Carolina mixed up. Ill fix that now
@@bebus6884 no worries, it happens! I still think broadly, one can say the south is a conservative stronghold, even more so with FL in the safe column even outweighing the slight swing state status of GA, the same way you can say the similar of much of Western CA for the conservatives. Nuance is always appreciated but broad strokes are generally spot on if for no other reason than they are broad. Cheers!
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The idea of Texas becoming a swing state is predicated on the idea that all of the immigrants to Texas will for the most part not integrate into the local culture, aside from the enclaves like Austin this seems to not exactly be going in that direction.
I’m a lifelong Canadian leftist, and at 39 I don’t see that changing anytime soon. That being said, I always appreciate J.J’s take on Canadian culture and politics. I even agree with him on a number of topics. From my somewhat laymen political point of view, I genuinely appreciate the apparent unbiased tone of his videos…. Bravo.
how anyone can still support Trudeau is beyond me czcams.com/video/IX50ihwtbZw/video.html , but I do appreciate how un-baised JJ's videos are
How can you still be a 'leftist ' ?
@@Euphorica because I am against nearly everything the conservatives run on. So I vote left.
@@max-is-loudThe only thing that COVID proved to me is to never vote left, and had I lived in Canada, I would've been absolutely convinced that Trudeau was an authoritarian asshat.
@@max-is-loudLmao you don’t like tax cuts? You like Trudeau shitting on Canadians?
I really like your videos on how certain de facto sets of cultural archetypes get established (e.g. monsters). I was thinking one on fantasy creatures (e.g. goblins, trolls, elves, dwarves , etc.) would be super interesting.
I’m working on it! It’s very interesting.
@@JJMcCullough awesome! Can't wait
We can say Canadian conservatives aren't as extreme as America's. But they want to be. Pierre is absolutely aiming to go the populist route like Donald Trump. In Saskatchewan the provincial government is waging the same war against public education and healthcare as the states. The conservative party are not less extreme because of their personal views only because Canada itself is less extreme. Many of them would absolutely ban abortion, gay marriage, trans rights, free healthcare, gun laws, etc. If they could.
I appreciate the care you take when discussing politics, you are very good at coming off non-hostile and open to conversation.
Freedom from government isn’t a right wing ideology. Anything that separates church and state is fundamentally left wing. The left was born from the French Revolution. Look how far left our society has shifted that we now consider libertarianism, a left wing ideology, right wing extremism. Anything that does not derive from the Catholic Church is left wing and that’s just the truth. Even traditionalism in itself is not right wing at all. Neither is the jewish “right wing”. The list goes on. Everything other than Catholicism is flawed and will inevitably fail.
I wonder how voter elasticity impacts stuff like this too - I’m not familiar with how much voter swing there is in Canada - it has decreased a ton in the US since the electoral sweeps of the 80s and 90s
I think in both United States and Canada there is an assumption that elections are basically won by swing voters in suburban areas. In recent years, however, republicans have seemingly come to believe that if they just let Trump do whatever they might win some voters in unexpected places. And there is some evidence to suggest this bizarre strategy works, just because Trump has a unique personal appeal that can be quite unpredictable.
Actually polling data is hard to come by, but I would agree that the main swing comes from suburban ridings. Urbanites tend to vote liberal, rural votes conservative, and suburbs tend to favour conservatives, but there is more swing.
But individuals running may have more clout in the US because the 'leader' is voted on separately. Here you don't 'vote for trudeau' OR Pollievre, your vote technically has to do THREE things, local rep, national rep, and party leader.
@@mikearchibald744 that’s not how people vote. People vote because they’re electing a prime minister. An individual member of parliament does nothing. That’s like saying in the US people are voting for members of the electoral college.
@@JJMcCullough Are you seriously telling me how EVERY canadian votes?
I'll grant you that maybe THIS time may be different because of social media, but who the local rep is can make a BIG difference in ridings. They most certainly DO do something, a Prime Minister can do nothing if they don't have the votes of their party. YOu going to tell me the people who voted in Jody WIlson Raybould somehow thought she was going to become Prime Minister?
@@mikearchibald744 local Reps. do nothing. They have no political power. That’s why it is so extremely rare for an independent MP to be elected.
I noticed some comments about the Evangelical Right in the U.S. not having an equivalent impact on conservatism in Canada. Despite the decreasing influence of Christianity in Canada, I would posit that many Christian denominations in Canada are somewhat left leaning. If you look at the largest Protestant denomination in Canada, it has embraced social justice and LGBT rights for years. Even Catholicism seems to embrace charity and work against poverty more than fire and brimstone, not exactly like but similar to the way priests in Latin America would support the common people against dictators, as opposed to enforcing strict ideology. It would be cool to see J.J. dip his toes into some religious Canada vs other countries type videos.
Curious where you're commenting from...I'm from rural prairies (sw MB) and I can say times are weird out here tho, these aren't our grandparents' churches anymore. A sharp divide has occurred post-pandemic, with many churches still holding anger over closures during lockdowns, and huge sharing of antivax content and related conspiracies, pivoting in 2023 to issues like censoring books in public libraries. Churches like the United Church of Canada and Anglican still lean much more towards social justice but I see Evangelical/Mennonite/Baptist (and some Catholic) as well as others getting fully wound up in the culture war and deeply suspicious or hostile towards governments doing anything (except maybe maintaining roads). It's exhausting out here 😂.
@@chah80 Thanks for your perspective. My thoughts on churches in Canada are mostly rooted in pre-pandemic rural central Canada, and like most Gen-X I have drifted into a less organized religion centric lifestyle, although no doubt certain values have permeated. I tend to remember an almost (for lack of a better description) lay-person led Hippyish Protestant vibe, and a more paternal conservative, but charitable, Catholic influence.
The Latin American case is special and goes back to the Spanish conquests. The Conquistadors were hard men and troublemakers who came for riches, while the priests came to save souls, so naturally the priests were horrified at how the Conquistadors treated the natives. Ever since they acted as the advocates for the lower castes.
Evangelical is an international interdenominational (ecumenical) theologically label that most of U.S.-American secular media mistakes for a political ideology due to the Republican Party trying to convince Evangelicals to vote for them in exchange for maintaining socially conservative (cultural conservative) values (which they don’t even do a good job of), convincing non-Christian and non-Evangelical Political Conservatives into erroneously adopting the term “Evangelical” as a synonym for “Right-Wing Conservative,”and Pew Research Center in their survey data nomenclature reinforcing the false Evangelical vs People of Color (POC) dichotomy where they split Evangelicals (who are multicultural/diverse) into Evangelical (erroneously synonymized with White Evangelical), Black Protestant (combing both Black Evangelicals and Black Mainline Protestants into one undifferentiated category making it difficult for the general public/media to compare without access to raw data due to non-matching variables brought about by not providing disaggregated data or survey questions differentiating between Black Evangelicals and Black Mainline Protestants although many of the most prominent Historically and Majority Black denominations being Evangelical in theology), and ignoring other POC Evangelicals or combing them with Pew’s mostly White-Normative defined “Evangelical” category. The thing is it’s mostly White Evangelicals that vote Republican (a good chunk of them being conservative on social and economic issues or are single-issue social conservative voters that believe that economic issues take a back seat over social issues) while Black Evangelicals tend to vote Democratic (although they mostly hold socially conservative values, and theologically conservative beliefs, they tend to be economically progressives because most of them actively feel the effects of being on the lower end of the socioeconomic totem-pole). If Pew splits the data into White Evangelical, Black Evangelical, Other Evangelical, White Mainline, Black Mainline, Other Mainline, and Confessing Movement and then regrouped White, Black, and Other Evangelicals into the Evangelical category, it would drop the prevalence of Evangelicals voting Republican (Political Conservative) down to an extent within their data because it will correct for the missing Black Evangelical data (that was combined with Black Mainline to create the undifferentiated Black Protestant variable) that voted Democrat (Political Liberal/Progressive). A study by Gallup in the article “5 Things to Know About Evangelicals in America” by Frank Newport, disaggregates Black Evangelical from the overall Evangelical and Black Protestant categories and shows 61% of the Black population being Evangelical while 38% of the White population is Evangelical the difference is White Evangelicals get more press/air time than Black Evangelicals in the media thus causing many outsiders to erroneously believe that Evangelicalism is some sort of White American cultural phenomenon or conservative political ideology.
news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/235208/things-know-evangelicals-america.aspx
www.nytimes.com/2021/10/26/opinion/evangelical-republican.html
[ In US demographics (as provided by Pew Research), in broad terms, ‘White Evangelicals’ are usually more socially conservative, and voted for Trump to a higher degree than other Americans, whereas ‘Black Protestants’ predominantly voted against Trump, though are socially conservative, and ‘White Mainline Protestants’ are usually socially more liberal and tended to vote against Trump.
‘Evangelical’ is often used by journalists as a (rather sloppy) shorthand for right-wing Christians. However, in other parts of the world, evangelicals are not necessarily linked with right-wing views.
In reviewing this answer, let’s shed some light on the confusion in Pew’s (and journalists’) term ‘evangelical’.
‘Evangelical’ refers to a doctrinal position - authority of the Bible combined with a personal relationship with Christ, Trinitarian belief - coupled with a doctrinal approach which is ‘unity in essentials, diversity in non-essentials’. Evangelicals have lots of denominations, and many evangelical churches don’t see themselves as part of a denomination at all. However, they cooperate freely and frequently, through campaigns such as those run in the 20th century by Billy Graham and Luis Palau, through advocacy such as organised by Open Doors and Voice of the Martyrs, through missions such as Wycliffe Bible Translators, WEC, Operation Mobilisation (OM) and Youth With a Mission (YWAM), and at a local level in many short-term initiatives. In Belgium, evangelicals are grouped into one ‘super-denomination’ called the Federal Synod, which forms part of ARPEE/CACPE, which is the government-recognised ‘Protestant and Evangelical Faith’. Two of the denominations within the Federal Synod are just groupings of churches that are either part of international movements such as Vineyard, or don’t want to be in a denomination at all. In many countries, evangelicals also group themselves into an Evangelical Alliance.
However, Pew and newspapers find this hard to follow, so they tend to look at ‘evangelistic’ rather than ‘evangelical’. Evangelism is an activity. Mainline churches often also have ‘evangelism’ or ‘local mission’ programmes, however, these are generally aimed at winning back past members rather than gaining new members. Mormons and Jehovahs Witnesses are also active in propagating their faith. They are not remotely ‘evangelical’, as neither are Trinitarian (and for this reason are not recognised by the world’s churches as ‘Christian’ at all), but they fit into the visible aspect of ‘propagating their faith’.
Really, the contrast should be between ‘liberal’ and ‘evangelical’. However, theologically liberal does not mean politically liberal. In the UK, political liberals tend to be evangelical, High Church or Roman Catholic. Another term which has been used is ‘progressive’ versus ‘conservative’. But if you walk into a ‘mainline’ church, and don’t happen to know what this refers to, you would assume that the mainline churches were conservative and the evangelical churches were progressive, because the style of worship and the structure of the church in mainline churches is ultra-conservative, whereas evangelical churches tend to be contemporary in style.
www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-Evangelical-and-Mainline-Protestantism ]
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Conservative Christianity, also known as conservative theology, theological conservatism, traditional Christianity, or biblical orthodoxy is a grouping of overlapping and denominationally diverse theological movements within Christianity that seeks to retain the orthodox and long-standing traditions and beliefs of Christianity, it is contrasted with Liberal Christianity and Progressive Christianity which are seen as heretical heterodoxies by theological conservatives. Conservative Christianity should not be mistaken as being synonymous with the political philosophy of conservatism nor the Christian right which is a political movement of Christians who support conservative political ideologies and policies within the realm of secular or non-sectarian politics. The two major subdivisions of Conservative Christianity within Protestantism are Evangelical Christianity and Christian Fundamentalism while the Confessing Movement, Confessionalism, and to an extent Neo-orthodoxy make up the remaining within Protestantism. Theological conservatism is also found in Roman Catholicism (excluding Catholic Modernism) and is also found within Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, the Church of the East; and throughout all of Mainstream-Nicene Christianity in both Western Christian and Eastern Christian traditions, although not every community has had a direct connection with the Fundamentalist-Modernist controversy.
Evangelical leaders like Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council have called attention to the problem of equating the term Christian right with theological conservatism and Evangelicalism. Although evangelicals constitute the core constituency of the Christian right within the United States, not all evangelicals fit that political description. The problem of describing the Christian right which in most cases is conflated with theological conservatism in secular media, is further complicated by the fact that the label religious conservative or conservative Christian applies to other Christian denominational religious groups who are theologically, socially, and culturally conservative but do not have overtly political organizations associated with them, which are usually uninvolved, uninterested, apathetic, or indifferent towards politics. Tim Keller, an Evangelical theologian and Presbyterian Church in America pastor, shows that Conservative Christianity (theology) predates the Christian right (politics), and that being a theological conservative didn't necessitate being a political conservative, that some political progressive views around economics, helping the poor, the redistribution of wealth, and racial diversity are compatible with theologically conservative Christianity. Rod Dreher, a senior editor for The American Conservative, a secular conservative magazine, also argues the same differences, even claiming that a "traditional Christian" a theological conservative, can simultaneously be left on economics (economic progressive) and even a socialist at that while maintaining traditional Christian beliefs.
As an American Conservative myself, I don't view Conservatism as a spectrum so much as a distinct ideology set out by primarily British philosophers like Thomas Hobbes, Edmund Burke, John Stuart Mill, and to a lesser extent Adam Smith and John Locke. The Modern American Conservative movement is largely different from the Neo-con platform with a very huge emphasis on opposing migration, supporting the rights to self defense and bodily autonomy, and anti-transgenderism. There isn't so much a distaste for LGB as there is for T in particular. Broadly, MAC is Nationalist, Populist, and Traditionalist, which is why this flavor of Conservatism has actually swept the globe over the past decade. It's spread globally to the point where some of the favorites of the ideology are a Central American (Bukele), Eastern European (Orban), East Asian (Shinzo Abe), South American (Bolsonaro), and Tangerine American (Trump).
I’m an American and I was at a cottage on Lake Huron this past weekend (Canada Day) and one of the family members in attendance confidently said that Poilievre was a “Nazi” and that things he had said or written in the not-too-distant past are proof of that. I would love to see a video about liberal and left Canadian hyperbole regarding conservative Canadian politicians, most notably Poilievre.
It's *very* possible I missed it in your analysis (distracted/multitasking), but I think you described how American primaries work but didn't really explain how membership in Canadian federal parties works or how party leaders are elected overall.
I think what you said on the distinction between culture and organized conservatism in the US vs its convergence in Canada was very insightful.
As a relatively left-leaning American (though I would not call myself a democrat), I associate conservative Canadians more with economic issues that prioritize small government and low taxes. I associate Republicans more with social issues. And while Republicans often say they like small government, their social policies always felt like government tyranny to me. And the economic/tax policies of both parties seem to favor the rich and powerful while telling regular people that they’re definitely regular people lol
Yeah this stood out to me too. JJ is such a great explainer, I'd love to see him evaluate the ways in which American versus Canadian conservatives have been deviating from this list of " conservative values " over the last few decades... I think wild swings in a foreign policy orientation in the US is a big part of it, also, it seems like the Democrats in the US have been the only ones to truly balance the budget since the 90s..
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Hey JJ. havent watched your videos in a good many years (i had a fascination with canada at the time)
This is a great video. You really touched on the really nuanced details here.
Thanks so much!
When I first moved to Canada, I was told that Canadian conservatives were different than American conservatives.
10 years later, I'm still not sure what the difference is.
Dude just American washed our history. Dude was like, "oh the Americans came up with everything amd we just piggie backed off of ot" 🤦♂️ leave it to a centrist to completely fumble the facts.
I'm here living in Canada's Texas.
That's a clue on my views of the Americanization of the UCP.
@@murraytown4Alabama doesn’t have money like Alberta does
@@murraytown4 Considering our economic similarities in oil & gas and agriculture and the amount of money they bring in. That and the general attitudes of people here are very close. I prefer Texas to compare to. I get your sentiment tho.
More like Canada’s Alabama.
@@thomasnunya1438I’m not talking about money.
Out of all the Canadian provinces, Alberta's politics are the most Americanized, due to the decades of one-party rule having been replaced by an effective two-party system.
I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your videos and perspective and how you present. Thank you 🎉
Canadian political parties becoming more alike their America counterparts is not a good thing in my view. I really wish they’d differentiate themselves. It often feels like they campaign on America issues for easy wins in Canada because the general populace pays more attention to American news and civics than Canadian.
Nice try. Complaining about 'American Style Politics' is a canard, and basically code for 'I want to live in a left-wing echo chamber without any mean, icky conservatives ruining my fun.'
@@Laissez-faire402 are you okay
Hi JJ, i recently noticed a phenomenon where it seems comedians seems to have a higher chance to be elected into govermental positions. Examples of this are Volodymr Zelensky from Ukraine, Jon Gnarr from Iceland, Jimmy Morales from Guatemala, and recently Alfiansyah Komeng from my home country of Indonesia. I think maybe you can speculate on why the public from different parts of the world seems to like the idea of comedians running for goverment position.
Could also say Al Franken in the US. It’s an interesting observation. I think it mostly just has to do with comedians being famous, comfortable in public, and I guess vain enough to seek office.
Trump isn't a typical conservative. He's a populist (who fortunately ran more conservative than he said he would). DeSantis is the closest to a model American conservative.
Out of those nine points you listed on the conservative agenda slide, how closely would one have to align themselves with those points to be a conservative? Obviously someone who supports all nine of the points would definitely be a conservative, but what if someone was on board with only five? That’s still technically a majority of them, but only by one.
I don’t know. I vote Conservative like 90% of the time. So do most of my family. We are pretty anti-Trump; think he’s nuts, etc. Canadian conservatives historically have been pro-monarchy, less government intervention into people’s lives (economically and socially). I have a degree in Political Science, so have been following politics in this country pretty closely for almost 2 decades…
Now, I know a lot of people who are Trump nuts, who are very pro Conservative Party, but previously never had an interest in politics, have less than a grade school knowledge of how things actually work (how laws are passed, the 3 levels of government and functions, etc). It feels like they are ravenously “anti-woke, anti-Trudeau”, etc. I wouldn’t really call them conservatives, more like extreme libertarians. But will probably vote PC anyway just to rid Trudeau.
I don’t even consider myself right wing; I would say I’m a centrist. But I think the PC party is the *closest thing* to a centrist party in this country. Erin O’Toole was no Donald Trump; just as Justin Trudeau is no Paul Martin. Sorry for rambling
I'd say that a lot of people think that way. Basically moderates. Being Anti-Woke/Anti-Covid Mandates doesn't make someone a traditional conservative. People just seem angry nowadays
A lot of moderate conservatives are deeply dissatisfied with Trump and his rhetoric, as are a lot of conservatives who lean more into the Libertarian side of things. They all technically fall under the banner of the Republican party, but they haven't felt like their views and beliefs have been represented by it. If there was an alternative, they'd probably take it, but a party split would play out in favor of the Democrats, who have their own internal pressures. Outside of the diehard core for both parties, no one's really happy with the choices they've been given. The way things play out, though, they're more afraid of the other guys taking power, so the average voter swallows their discontent and sticks with the party, regardless of whether or not they really like it.
Oh how I wish the US conservatives were hawkish on foreign policy, maybe then they would stop blocking Ukraine aid in the house of representataives...
they are doing that because the current bill allows 5000 undocumented illegal immigrants in PER DAY thats 1.85 Million per year. On top of the legal immigration and assylum seekers. Which is totally unreasonable as there is no record of who these people are or their criminal histories if they have any. So both parties are unwilling to budge on it.
I think its important to remember that the United States' primary elections are a relatively new feature of American democracy. They only were adopted in the 1970s. I don't think its a coincidence that the US started experiencing changes in its political culture after that primary system was adopted.
14:00 - There is an office of the leader of the Republican Party, it's RNC chair Ronna McDaniel, who has had her fingers in a lot of the plots of the Republican party at-large, though does not have her face out in public like prominent politicians in the party. Likewise the party committees in general do have a fairly "large-tent" approach to candidates self-identifying with these parties, the committees absolutely push and pull their purse-strings to different candidates that more or less identify with the values the party wants to espouse. It is definitely a lot less centralized than in Canada, of course, and the state-level party offices will often have stronger influence than the national committee, especially on lower-level races.
Because the US is built from the Bottom Up and Canada the Top Down in its politial power structure.
Yeah, political parties absolutely do have individual leaders in the US but the position of party leader (or chairman) is very weak when it comes to setting policy and the individual is often doesn't even hold public office and might never have in the past. It's mostly a position of fundraising and political strategy over policy setting
@@avroarchitect1793that’s parliamentarism in general
Stanfield mentioned -> Nova Scotia (indirectly) mentioned, LFG!!!
My grandfather used to work in the Truro Stanfield’s factory, they still put out quality too
wait ronald reagan has been dead for 20 years?? as a finnish person i didnt know this
3:06 "it is clear a significant chunk of the base of the conservative party loves men"
As a conservative British Columbian, I think I may need to move my family to Alberta. It would be unfortunate to see BC lose another nurse and a small business owner, but BCs loss would be Alberta's gain.
It’s gotta be said Canadian politics indeed Canada more generally seems just an extension of happenings in the US.
Short answer: No
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@@JJMcCullough You're only likely to get responses to comments left very early, though (case study: this reply)
Depending on what eras you compare them to each other and what subwings and branches. For today a Nixon Conservative from the 1960s, A Reagan Conservative of the late 1970s and 80s abd a Trump Conservative today aren't the same. Then you get more complexity throwing in branches and eras of Canadian Conservatism into the mix.Perhaps the Canadian Conservative of today is like the Nixon concervative of the late 1960s.😊
As an American Justin Trudeau is the first time I could match a name and face to a Canadian PM. But ten years later I think the fact Pierre Poilievre has any substantive recognition in the US of any Canadian politician who wasn’t a PM speaks volumes of how far Canadian national identity or political autonomy has become recently.
As a Yankee I’d say in the past decade Canada has made certain steps to make it’s country more defined and identifiable in more abstract ways.
Very interesting to hear. As a Canadian it really hasn’t felt like we’ve been more defined as a nation recently, and more that the world started to know some things about Canada. But, what do I know, I don’t have an outsider’s perspective
maybe because I am younger but I don't recognize the guy you told about. I guess I recognize Justin though
You spelled Poilievre incorrectly.
It mostly has to do with politics moving from traditional medias to internet social medias. The national lines become much more blurry now.
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I think as time goes on Canada and the US will be come as distinct as Sweden is from Norway.
Will say as a Yankee, your country’s whole thing with French Quebec is the biggest difference that you have that we don’t relate to
My point of view with Polievre is he seems like a middle left leaning rather than an american conservative. While trudeau, especially the fast few years kind of felt like he's either slacklining or snorting the line between a far left socialist and a fascist. I'm kinda leaning a little bit to the left too, but that guy feels like he's going too far.
As an American who is somewhat a conservative in Texas I will 100% support Vivek Ramaswamy BUT if my only option is Trump come November, I will be voting for Trump. The sad thing is I voted for Obama in 2012. Fully supported Obama. I voted for Bernie along with 3/4 of the Democrat population in the primaries in 2016, watched him back out and hand all his votes to Hilary Clinton and that pissed me off so much I voted for Donald Trump in the actual election. I then voted for Donald Trump in 2020 because Joe Biden can’t string a sentence together. That said I voted in the Democrat primaries in 2020 against Biden and again watched Biden get all the votes in the end. 2 election cycles in a row to tell me the Democrats pre-choose their candidate and it pissed me off again. So twice the democrats angered me into voting red. I’m not even gonna try this year I’m just voting for a Republican. The left has gotten way too far left for me anyway.
Hey J.J. I have to say you have great ideas with content. I appreciate your views. You are a philosopher at heart and want to teach (like Socrates, one of my favorite celebrities from the past). Much love buddy and "may the wind always be at your back, and the sun upon your face"🖖
Canadian/European Conservativism: Acceptance of government
American Conservativism: Fear of Government
Have you ever thought of making a video on neo-liberalism in the 1980s (Reagan, Thatcher, IMF, WTO) etc…?
I dont think any american party has or ever would claim to be americas natural ruling party. I definitely would say that pendulum theory is the conventional wisdom in the United States.
In the late 1980s people certainly thought the Republicans had a permanent lock on the presidency.
@JJMcCullough I could see someone thinking that way about the republican party untill the mid George H. W. Bush administration. Nixon to Bush, only broken up by Jimmy Carter could make someone think of the republican party as a natural ruling party, but we have spent since the nineties more time under democrat control republican. With younger millennials growing up under Clinton, and most Zoomers growing up under Obama, anyone who thinks of the republican party as the natural ruling party in the modern day is probably older, and less focused on politics than when they were younger.
Hi JJ, I love your culture videos and I would love to see one done on styles of learning and education in America throughout the ages. I think there would be a lot of good ground to cover, like virtual learning, Montessori, etc.
Great video, I can always rely on your channel for a non-biased approach.
Donald J Trump --> *Make America Great Again!* Pierre Poilievre --> *Make Canada Free Again!* I think they would both have nothing good to say about the WEF.
Danielle Smith --> *Put Alberta First!* Justin Trudeau --> *Put Alberta Last!*
Danielle put some Albertans first, the kind who like to scream at kids at sporting events. She should be putting all of Alberta first, like securing water during a crisis instead of playing the identity politics she swears other parties thrive on.
ermm its actuallly warm in alberta right now
A Canadian Conservative would be a Liberal in the US.
I was just thinking this. If JJ’s a conservative by Canadian standards he’s most definitely more liberal by American standards.
I don't know much about Canadian districting. Here in America, gerrymandering (political parties reshaping voting districts in their favor) is basically the norm. The last several elections featured the conservative candidate losing the popular vote, but because of our electoral system and gerrymandering, otherwise very unpopular conservative candidates won nonetheless. It tends to make the Republican party more conservative than even the most conservative voters, to the point where they will actively do things their own party voters absolutely do not approve of. If our Republican party acted more like the Canadian Conservative party, I doubt we'd be nearly as divided as we are now, not to mention Trumpism taking over and threatening outright fascism.
Democrats gerrymander just as much as Republicans. However, Canadian ridings are never weird squiggly lines. Each contains ~100,000 people, and is a contiguous uninterrupted blob in every direction to the edge of the riding. You can see a map on 338canada.
@@gungan5822 Democrats do gerrymander, but not nearly as drastically as Republicans plus they don't fully rely on it as much as they do turnout. Republicans rely on exceedingly safe gerrymandered districts and suppressing turnout.
Canadian conservatives are about as similar to American conservatives as they are to UK or Austalian or [insert western democrscy] conservatives. I think your regular insistence that Canada is some sort of unofficial 51st state is a mirror image of the liberal Canadian insistence that 🇨🇦 and 🇺🇸 are so different. I wish we could define ourselves without reference (positive or negative) to the USA every once in a while.
I feel like the brand of "conservative" I associate with is quickly dying out...
People like Carlson or Trump are the exact opposite of conservatives I respect, but it seems my kind is on the way out. The type that leans into conspiratorial stuff & worships personalities over country or values is sadly what passes as "conservative" these days.
But hey, as long as we're "sticking it to the libs" then I guess that's all that matters 😓
How would you define your type of conservative?
Is there any Political Party in Canada that carries as one of there flag reforms to move to a proportional representation system from that mock of democratic valeus that is FPTP?(like the brit LibDems)
Credibly: Québec Solidaire, Green (both the May centrist faction and the Tyrell-Lascaris socialist faction)
Less credibly: NDP, Parti Québécois
Unclear: Bloc Québécois
Past Support, since abandoned: Stephen Harper, François Legault
Support for non-proportional electoral reforms: Justin Trudeau
Not proportional representation, but Justin Trudeau, our current prime minister, campaigned on electoral reform of ranked voting, which was one of his biggest promises. But then he never actually did it
The NDP and the Green Party both favor PR.
Any party in 2nd, 3rd opposition. Once they're elected and they can actually make the reform, it's not in their agenda anymore because the current system fits them now.
No.
Thank you JJ. This is wonderful.
Americans are definitely more conservative in general which is why I vastly prefer Biden to Trou d'eau
Dual citizen here. I’m independent in the US but have historically voted more democrat than Republican. In Canada, I vote conservative.
I think Rachel Notley has it backwards. The premier of Alberta isn't platforming Tucker Carlson, Tucker Carlson is platforming the premier. Tucker is better known in Canada than any premier. For that matter, so is Jordan Peterson.
In any case, Tucker did not invite himself, somebody in Canada invited him!
@@gregblair5139 True, in a strict technical sense, the actual literal platform was provided BY Smith TO Tucker. But it's clear who has the real star power.