Discovering the Picts: From Enemies of Rome to Powerful Kingdoms of Early Medieval Scotland

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  • Discovering the Picts: From Enemies of Rome to Powerful Kingdoms of Early Medieval Scotland - Prof Gordon Noble
    The Picts were first mentioned in late Roman sources and went on to become powerful rulers of northern Britain in what is now Northeast Scotland. Bereft of detailed historical sources, archaeological evidence is needed to illuminate the Pictish period. The Northern Picts project at the University of Aberdeen has been running for ten years and has provided dramatic new evidence for the Picts, their power centres and their iconic symbol stones. This talk will highlight some of the major successes of the project and provide an update on recent progress.
    BIOGRAPHY
    Professor Gordon Noble has undertaken landscape research and directed field projects across Scotland. He has worked on a wide range of landscapes and archaeology projects from the Mesolithic to Medieval periods. He was director and co-founder of Strathearn & Royal Forteviot (SERF), a successful archaeological project researching a site that became one of Scotland’s early royal centres. He now works on two major projects. The first, Northern Picts, is funded by the University of Aberdeen Development Trust and Historic Environment Scotland and is focused on the post-Roman societies of northern Britain. The second, Comparative Kingship, funded by the Leverhulme Trust, is examining the early royal landscapes of Ireland and Scotland.

Komentáře • 55

  • @redtobertshateshandles
    @redtobertshateshandles Před rokem +4

    Great presentation. 👍 You would have to assume they built that citidel but lost their livestock (wealth) to raiders. Thereafter, building the 2nd wall to protect themselves and their wealth. It was large to protect a common wealth. Castles were smaller because they were owned by the raiders.

  • @jollyfamily9138
    @jollyfamily9138 Před 2 lety +3

    Very informative! Thanks from Englewood, Colorado, USA!

  • @BarryAllanScottart
    @BarryAllanScottart Před 2 lety +2

    Fascinating! Thank you!

  • @jayturner3397
    @jayturner3397 Před 2 lety +2

    Fascinating, thanks

  • @terrielburrell5545
    @terrielburrell5545 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you for this video. My surname, Burrell, is an ancient family of Boernicians, a mix of Pict, Angle and Viking, from Northumbria.

  • @wilhelmshtem7167
    @wilhelmshtem7167 Před 2 lety +4

    Just me or does the image on the stone tablet (Land and the written word) at ~3:19, specifically what looks like handcuffs (Infinity symbol?) with the circle up above it (sun?) seem similar to Egyptian, possibly Scythian imagery?

  • @wallacemiddleton6652
    @wallacemiddleton6652 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you ,interesting details.
    God bless

  • @distantsunrising
    @distantsunrising Před 2 lety +4

    This should really be updated

    • @seatonsmithy436
      @seatonsmithy436 Před rokem

      You think that a presentation by the leading academic in the filed should be updated one month after it was presented?

  • @a44489
    @a44489 Před 6 měsíci

    i like the cough after the raiding part.

  • @maviemac
    @maviemac Před 11 měsíci +2

    Amazing, my mother whos mother settled in eastern Canada is from Scottland, they are the Cairns but I have lost the family tree as it's hard to track the history far back. How would you recommend I investigate. My mother is very tall and lean and high cheekbones. She fierce in passion and stubborn, sound Pictish!!!

    • @ronzombie6541
      @ronzombie6541 Před 10 měsíci

      Would recommend DNA test with Ancestry and FTDNA (Family Tree DNA). Then join respective projects that align with results. That will give you a good baseline to work from.

  • @clarekrishan1597
    @clarekrishan1597 Před rokem +1

    Q&A re: tattooing - could livestock *branding* be the key to interpretation as in Caucasus clan markings? Romans branded slaves, so technique known to Iron age cattle-herders perhaps> developed catalog of symbols to identify breeding pedigrees ? Metalwork moulds shown in presentation have distinct troughs and ridges suitable for creating a linear images after heating over a fire?

  • @3rays3
    @3rays3 Před 2 lety +7

    I don’t think anyone will answer as I’ve asked many a time on a few Pictish pages. I was born in Alyth and was brought up in Coupar Angus, now live in Perth. I would love to know possibly my Pictish tribe who would have lived in this area during the pagan Pictish era? Thank you for any response. 🧙‍♂️

    • @SuperRobinjames
      @SuperRobinjames Před 2 lety +3

      Maybe the Pictish Kingdom of Fotla or Circind? I just googled 'map of Pictish Scotland', happy hunting 😊

    • @geoffhunter7704
      @geoffhunter7704 Před 2 lety +3

      See WA Cummings book "THE AGE OF THE PICTS" which though little known does the research well (Aberdeen Uni).

    • @geoffhunter7704
      @geoffhunter7704 Před 2 lety +2

      WA CUMMINGS "THE AGE OF THE PICTS" BOOK IS A GOOD START,Perth Library,Meigle Museum,Royal Society of Antiquaries of Scotland Website. HappyHUNTING Ray.

    • @tuathadesidhe1530
      @tuathadesidhe1530 Před 2 lety +2

      @@geoffhunter7704 do you know of any good kids picture books on the Picts ? We are doing a history time-line and I would love to cover the Picts.

    • @geoffhunter7704
      @geoffhunter7704 Před 2 lety +3

      @@tuathadesidhe1530 Dear Tuatha, If you live in Scotland your local library will have childrens books on the Picts,my collection of books are all academic and mature reading,good luck with your project and let me know if i can help you further.

  • @scottemery4737
    @scottemery4737 Před 2 lety +2

    On one of the Pictish stone slides, there appears to be Ogham writing on it. Could this be your Roseta stone?

    • @bernardmolloy4463
      @bernardmolloy4463 Před rokem +4

      No, people know about these stones and Ogham.
      Some of the Pictish stones have been interpreted at a very minor level. Using these small traces of Ogham, Pictish has been interpreted overall as being a form of “P-Celtic”.
      However there is still not enough left behind to fully interpret and reconstruct what the Pictish language actually was.

  • @andomikel1
    @andomikel1 Před 2 lety +7

    The origin of the Pictish language has been a subject of intense debate for many decades . I have to agree with Jackson that Pictish is likely to be pre Indo European and disagree with Forsythe with her thesis of a Celtic origin . I think genealogy is helping us a great deal indeed in the same sense and the Pictish toponymy is clearly non Celtic . The capital of the Picts was Urqhart , in my humble opinion that means surrounded by water , URARTE, the same in Basque and Sumerian. The river URE , water in Basque . ALBA or ARABA means low land in Basque . I wouldn’t object to Federico Krutwig’s theory that CAMPBELL derives from GAN BEL , black night in Basque. IBAR means river in many ancient languages and ABAR or ABER means valley in Celtic languages , yes , but also in Etruscan , Iberian and Basque.

    • @geoffhunter7704
      @geoffhunter7704 Před 2 lety +1

      Campbell is actually a nickname as the Chiefs of the Lochawe Familia now Argyll, carried a faulty gene which caused their mouths to be twisted only known in the males that they were called crooked mouth,wrymouth cam is the Celtic word for crooked,twisted or excessively distorted as the Cameron;s also had twisted noses where they carry a nickname meaning just that.In Scotland it was usual to call VIP'S by their land ownership ie Earl of Argyll would be addressed as Argyll by his Equals in social standing.

    • @andomikel1
      @andomikel1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@geoffhunter7704 I know that Campbell means something close to crooked mouth in Gaelic . Krutwig , a first class scholar , was aware of that theory , he just disagreed with it .
      I’m very skeptic about the faulty gene theory .

    • @jockular123
      @jockular123 Před 2 lety +2

      P and Q celtic languages are both indo germanic.

    • @alicemilne1444
      @alicemilne1444 Před rokem +4

      I don't know what you have been reading about the origins of Pictish, but none of what you have said is supported by any of the material I have read on historical linguistics over the past 40 years. The name Urquhart is a corruption of an Old Gaelic and Old Welsh name "Airdchartdan" and means "by a thicket". The letter combination "quh" is the spelling convention in the Older Scots Tongue for rendering a "ch" or "wh" sound. The name has nothing to do with water or with the Basque word "ugarte" meaning an island.
      Basque is considered a language isolate, i.e. a language with no known living relatives. That much has been ascertained over many centuries by people who have also studied ancient languages like Sumerian. Any resemblance between the sound of words and their meaning is purely coincidental here and not to be trusted. Federico Krutwig is the only person ever to postulate that Basque, Guanche (Canary Islands language) and Pictish were related, or even the same language. No specialists in ancient languages, let alone Celtic languages agree with him.
      Pictish is considered to have been a Britonnic P-Celtic language, i.e. related to Welsh. In Welsh, Cumbrian and Pictish, "aber" does not mean a "valley". It means the mouth of a river or confluence of two rivers.
      As for the name Campbell (or Caimbeul in Gaelic), the name is definitely of Gaelic origin and has nothing to do with Basque. It is consistent with the naming patterns in Gaelic-speaking Scotland where people who were named by patronymics often had identical names and were distinguished by the addition of a descriptive feature relating to their appearance or a personal characteristic. Krutwig is just fantasizing here.

    • @Hellbillyhok
      @Hellbillyhok Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@alicemilne1444 thank you, I was puzzled as well until you wrote this as this explanation is what I grew up reading or watching and understood, I'm glad you cleared this up

  • @clarkduncan3715
    @clarkduncan3715 Před 11 měsíci

    Very interesting... personally I don't think the Dice Tower is for the campaign in the North... Its from where it was found , they referred to others as picts also

  • @thetaexali9550
    @thetaexali9550 Před 2 lety +1

    The man of Rhynie, go up Ben Macdui and just look around, he's still doing his work.

  • @PaulEcosse
    @PaulEcosse Před rokem

    Do you think it's possible at all that when the PIcts were writing ERRDENNN and variations of, on several different stones, they may have been leaving the name that they called themselves? And not in fact, the name of a King.

  • @KernowekTim
    @KernowekTim Před rokem +2

    If Pictish war bands gave the Roman heathen a hard time, they are alright by me.

  • @iamtruth369
    @iamtruth369 Před 7 měsíci

    Should we be looking closer to the irish? After all the picts had irish women when on arrival.

  • @johngibson1256
    @johngibson1256 Před 5 měsíci

    I wouldn't give much credibility to Gordon Nobles account. The archaeology etc stands on it's own merit. The genetic record and the accounts of the Irish who were also Colonized by Romes mercenaries is much more noteworthy. Gordon Noble is clearly an agent of Rome and Colonialism. No doubt air brushing what they want airbrushed and of course profiting from Scotland's culture and ancestry. It would be interesting to hear his views on the current Palestinian genocide. I think that would tell us all we need to know about his Geo-religio-political sympathies. This is a much more authentic picture of the Picts who are from Sythian origin and possibly Egyptian as well. Robert Sepher a published anthropologist puts their language on the Ayrian spectrum same as the Sythian indo-European branch of anthropology. You cant rule out Russian origin lines either at this stage of the genealogy project. The Pictish Problem - Genetics of Scotland czcams.com/video/4XDS957HCIw/video.html

  • @davidallard1980
    @davidallard1980 Před 2 lety +2

    If you guys want to know how to read pictish Id be happy to tell you.

  • @garyproffitt5941
    @garyproffitt5941 Před 8 měsíci

    Building Castles in the sand, I think not oh Sir intelligent Picts 'thing, stuff' defending to evilest dark Roman Italy times. Thank you very intelligent King Charles Regina the III, Buckingham Palace and no more war games at all Earth.

  • @michaelbarclay4803
    @michaelbarclay4803 Před rokem

    The monk bede wrote in 730 in his book ecclesiastical history said that picts came from scythia and the bruce said in his letter to the pope declaration of arbroath we scythians

  • @davewatson309
    @davewatson309 Před 6 měsíci

    Aberdeen, Aberystwyth, Pit, Peth, Perth, blackthorn hedged enclosure, Tay, Teifi, Monadh, Mynydd, Urquart, Wir Garth seems obvious to me, learn some Welsh!

  • @catherineclark-holman8364
    @catherineclark-holman8364 Před 7 měsíci

    This is in Scotland, stop confusing people about " northern Briton" A very vague description. I could say Southern Briton, could be England or Wales?
    Get your Kingdoms right!

  • @neilgrew6609
    @neilgrew6609 Před 2 lety +2

    Why don't you use the welsh way to pronounce these words are brythonic aren't they.

  • @garwood.5993
    @garwood.5993 Před 2 lety +1

    Why does all the findings from most excavations look the same as though trying to say every tribe clans have a pale hue, as though the carbon neutral being was never there when they clearly were there.
    We know some have DNA and some have DEA so what is it. This should be easy way of knowing the pure facts of who they were.

    • @AnDuineSaor
      @AnDuineSaor Před 2 lety +5

      What on earth are you talking about?

    • @tuathadesidhe1530
      @tuathadesidhe1530 Před 2 lety

      @@AnDuineSaor looks like another one of these delusional woke beings that can't deal with the reality that white people have their own culture.

  • @benmacdui9328
    @benmacdui9328 Před 2 lety +3

    Noble thinks every Pictish site was "Elite" , as if he's pushing a certain agenda.

    • @damionkeeling3103
      @damionkeeling3103 Před rokem

      There's almost no remains of Pictish settlements so the ones that remain are the better made ones meaning elites. Apparently Picts adopted a type of housing construction that didn't leave deep post holes like earlier Iron Age houses did. Which means such buildings are only known from abandoned regions as farming practices plough up the top of the soil and destroy the evidence for such houses. The reason they know such houses exist is because they've been found in abandoned unfarmed areas such as inside hillforts which elites lived in.

  • @bernardmolloy4463
    @bernardmolloy4463 Před rokem

    “Pictish” was the language of Irelands Tuatha Dé Danann.

  • @davidmackay2353
    @davidmackay2353 Před rokem +1

    Terrible presentation!

    • @skadiwarrior2053
      @skadiwarrior2053 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Would be interesting if you explained why you think that.

    • @Sweetlyfe
      @Sweetlyfe Před 9 měsíci

      It’s no doubt a lecture to other academics not the usual television type documentary, how you don’t understand that is bizarre.