This Could Change Live Concerts Forever
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2024
- A new announcement from the Justice Department about Ticketmaster and Live Nation could change live concerts forever. Live Nation and Ticketmaster have long faced criticism that they are a monopoly after their merger. The Justice department is said to be readying an anti-trust lawsuit against the corporation.
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Fee's for fee's for years. Ticket Master should be sued
Finally! We concertgoers have been getting fleeced for years.
They are the Biggest Scalpers that ever lived! And greediest
This proves that Pearl Jam was right, as is Taylor Swift. (Did I just praise Taylor? Yeahup, I did.)
She deserves a lot of credit for this because of how influential she is. She has also been critical of the streaming model for musicians.
I don't like her music but I respect what she's doing with her platform.
Metallica was also right about piracy, which enables the streaming exploitation we have
I love Taylor and I'm a Metal Human 🤘🤘🤘
@@anthonibeaty7712 lol. You're a music head like me.
I attend at least 12-17 concerts a year and sick of the ridiculous fees. Live Nation/Ticketmaster is out to drain every penny they can.
Same. Got to the point 80% of the scows I go to are now clubs not LN
Absolutely this 👏👏👏
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But do those clubs control their own ticket sales or they use a ticket seller that is just another branch of the Ticketmaster/LiveNation family tree? I know many very small venues (100 people or less capacity) who are part of that family tree.
Back in the day we used to go to concerts that were between $10 and $50 at the most.. I feel bad for kids these days, no way they could afford to go to all those shows nowadays!
Always BlackRock and Vanguard behind every evil corporation.
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What did the Feds think was going to happen when they allowed the merger of the *two largest* ticket seller/promoters in the US?!? They literally helped create this problem! Did they think somehow less competition would be better for consumers?😅
Exactly! They allowed this to begin with
This is a must. It is a monopoly. They upchsrge outrageous prices cause there is no competition.
Then they blame the venues that they own.
Thank God something needs to be done about this shit I paid over $200 for nosebleed seats because of "service fees" from there website.
BlackRock and Vanguard own Live Nation and the politicians and use them to launder billions in Ukraine etc. You really think something is gonna happen?
They tried doing this like 10 years ago.
Ticketmaster ended up “giving away” free tickets to concerts for every ticket you purchased dating back to the ‘90s.
However, they never honored it.
I think I literally had like 50 ticket vouchers in my parents’ account and Ticketmaster literally never accepted any of them.
It got to a point that it would include an error message that had a date of like 2018 or 2019 or something on it and when you put in the codes after, the same date would appear for “we should fix this by this date.”
It was such a scam. Ticketmaster shouldn’t exist.
Livenation and Ticketmaster have been screwing fans long enough. These corporations need to be regulated by artists, after all THEY are what we want to see. Sell a ticket for a fair price, buy a ticket for a fair price, plain and simple
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What Livenation and Ticketmaster have been doing is no different than what payola was in the radio industry. They should be knocked down a notch or two! 🤘🏼💙
They need to lower ticket prices or alot of people won't go to the concerts. This is crazy. They have to do something or get sued about it.
Ticketmaster/LiveNation doesn’t have any control over the original ticket pricing that is on the artist. However, Ticketmaster/LiveNation could control “re-seller” pricing and their “fees”.
Even though the original ticket prices are artist controlled, the artists should be criticized for the high prices, because most are no longer selling recorded music at the level they once were or that artists in the past did so they need (and deserve) to be compensated for that work and that leaves ticket sales to pick up the difference.
As far as being able to get into the queue and buy tickets, I'm not sure there's much of a solution there for high demand shows. But for the rising prices, they've started doing "dynamic pricing" based on demand. I read a snippet from Bruce Springsteen defending the idea of selling tickets for $2,000, saying "if scalpers can charge that much and people will buy them, why don't we charge that much and then we get the money?" Not untrue, but the bigger issue is they need to combat scalping. Don't let people sell or transfer the tickets for more than face value.
Apparently, Ticketmaster/LiveNation has a new feature that artists can opt into called The Face Value Exchange where tickets aren’t allowed to be resold for above the original price. The most recent concert tickets I bought (and I go to at least 12 shows a year usually) were for the Neil Young & Crazy Horse Tour, and that was the first time I’ve seen an artist use that option. The downsides are that apparently some states don’t allow the Face Value Exchange, and the obvious fact that it does nothing to lessen the excessive Ticketmaster/LiveNation fees.
Good! CEO Michael Rap(e)ino has lived up to his name by taking it to music fans for years!
I emailed back and forth with him a few months ago, he wasn’t too thrilled about what I had to say and sent me back some fiery words, then I got a call from his staff an hour later saying I was legit emailing their CEO haha
If I scalp a ticket I go to jail, ticket master does it and makes billions. Foh
For years, probably even decades, we've been getting screwed by TM/LN. Some latest issues that bother me are: 1. "dynamic pricing", a seat price should be established, and that should be it. The price within their system shouldn't fluctuate from second to second. 2. their fee structure. Whether I like it or not, I can understand a fee for this and that...but that fee should be flat across the board. Why is a "cheap seat" fee $50, and a front row fee $450? It's not like their website, app, or an actual human worker is doing anything more or less for either ticket. You log in, select a seat, and make the purchase. This shouldn't be percentage based or a sliding scale. 3. The "official platinum" seat scam. They claim they're offering a premium seat, but the seat next to it could be half the price, there's nothing premium about those seats, except the price. Who is receiving the difference in price? TM/LN? Probably not the artist. I could go on for days listing issues, but those are 3 that really bother me.
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That's why I just climb the fence or walk in the back door bar area. One time my old band played an arena and I opened some door and let a bunch of people in haha. Then we went up some service elevator and pee'd in a room under construction. Good times.
All are shake downs pay to play
I'm glad these monopolies are facing this. The theaters i go to have stopped using them, the cost of Broadway shows has dropped in price or leveled off.
when i saw ghost in Atlanta i bought my tickets from the venue. I picked them up at the venue without any crazy fees. Much better.
I just brought tickets to Sebastian Maniscalo..
$240 for tickets, $60 for "processing " fee. It's done on a computer. I don't even have an actual tickets. That was another $20 to someone on Etsy who makes souvenir tickets. 😮
I can’t go to concerts anymore they are just to expensive. And it sucks because I wanna see some of my favorite bands.
It should be illegal to resell a ticket at an inflated price period, that would solve 90% of ticket problems immediately. Ticket "fees" is a whole other problem.
I remember in 98 for pantera, anthrax, and Sebastian bach. Service charge was 6.85
Just buy a giant stereo and become good friends with your neighbors like i did,stopped going to concerts like 7 years ago......
Fuck the hell yes!! About goddamn time!
If possible, I always buy from the venue and avoid ticket master.....just saying
They got away with this crap for way too long.. and ruining our concerts making them un-affordable...
Finally...any type of Monopoly of {any kind} is just all Bad. This is just a legal form of scalping at the one-percenter level.
Unfair to the Artists & Unfair to concert-goers who can have their lives changed (especially young people) just by experiencing a Live performance. Any exposure to Live Art, particularly music, is what inspires people to continue to create music for their next Generation.
Brave people to clamp down on all this 'smoke & mirrors' BS excuses for outrageous ticket prices; the legal filers are courageous because they know they are in it for the long haul, so thank you to them.
I just hope this also calls attention to the plight of musicians, who are essentially held hostage by their initial unfair record contracts. Good Luck. 🍀🎼💚
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These companies have become the new scalpers of the day...they have been that for years.
They buy up all the tickets as soon as they go on sale and then sell the tickets at an inflated price plus all the fees + add in a few more fees,then sell you insurance on the tickets for another fee. Its just ridiculous for fans who dnt have the money for the acts you want to see.
The prices are crazy ridiculous plus fees? Come on man 🙄
Back in 2013-ish I bought my son tickets to see Slipknot at a LN venue in Tinley Park IL. I paid a $2 service fee per ticket and got actual tickets in the mail. I was 🤯. I had never paid less than $5 in service fees, going back to 87'- present. I vowed to only buy from LN venues, that didn't last long...every show I purchased tickets for after that had Ticketmaster type fees, and they started to sky rocket along with ticket prices. I don't mind paying a service fee ($5-10) but when the fees are almost as much as the ticket, fuck that!
I wondered how long were they going to be allowed to be a monopoly and abuse their power?
Don't know if theres any correlation but what happened with the Sleep Token presales seems similar to what happened with the Taylor Swift tickets.
They own ticket company, promotion company, venues and more. They get a piece of everything and then they take a percentage of the bands merchandise sales.
Tickets to major concerts are stupid expensive nowadays
Couldn’t agree more on this.
Pearl Jam tried back in the day went to congress and were crucified. Today, Pearl Jam still sells out every seat even behind the drummer and up. That’s a lot of money in Ticketmaster/live nation. To get PJ tickets is through the fan club but you can only get two per show. Not fun.
Ticketmaster and live nation must go or de-monopolize.
Fans just want to see their band(s). Kick the middle man out.
With the music business in it's current state, this is technically the same monopoly that Microsoft had. By buying or renting out entire arenas for years, they are forcing popular musicians into a cooperation.
I quit going to concerts because of the exhuberent cost. Might goto a local rock festival thats low budget nearby where I live in a few months. But it's not run by ticketmaster
Thank God for justice! 🙏🏾
There is many more companies out there doing the same shit. Walmart, Amazon ect ect 😢
A friend of mine, it took forever for her to get tickets for her daughter to go see Taylor Swift at her concert. i’m not surprised. 2:12
They're definitely making it harder and harder for this Gen X retail working mom to enjoy my bands live. Ya know? Side note: that weight loss. You look amazing!! 🔥
Ahhh remember when people physically stood in line for tickets? The good old days
Looks like I might be touring America again soon
Let's go!
Do venues typically accept crowds of 4 people?
Until Ticketmaster and live Nation are broken up and scattered to the four winds and told they can merge again under severe penalty it's a water cooler moment make no mistakes.
well well well…Look at that. Pearl Jam's effort against ticket master didn't went in vain after all this years.
Wonder what the BOD did to piss the government off? 😂😂😂
Finally!
Nice.
pearl jam took this to congress 30 years ago. the wheels move slow.
Remember when you had to go to the venue’s box office to buy tixs..
I remember those good old days. Standing in line for hours maybe in bad weather, and maybe even overnight. I like the new way better (except for the excessive fees). I’m not particularly fond of the higher ticket prices, but it is understandable considering that most artists don’t make as much off of record sales as was done past. I also wasn’t fond of the demise of printed tickets when that first started happening, but once again I really think having the “tickets” on an app on your phone is an improvement, too.
Break this company up. I absolutely loath them. They’ve absolutely ruined going to any sort of live event.
I agree they need to do something about the fees but I don't get the hate they're getting from the swifty debacle because I don't know any company that has that much capacity to deal with those lemmings. Do we now sue Best Buy/Amazon/Gamestop because we couldn't get in line on their website to buy the PS5 when it was a hot ticket item?
The real problem with the Taylor Swift debacle was that Ticketmaster/LiveNation ASSURED her that their systems could handle the demand. If they had been honest with her upfront she could have done things differently.
While I agree with Ticketmaster's policies being insane, the fed govt just filed a monopoly lawsuit against Apple. They did the same thing to Microsoft awhile back. Now Live Nation and Ticketmaster. There's definitely something fishy going on. I mean if the govt is so concerned about companies monopolizing then why haven't any lawsuits been filed against companies within the pharmaceutical industry? Or Black Rock, Fidelity, or Vanguard?
Yeah, BlackRock and Vanguard own most of the world now.
This actually might be the only good thing a Swifty could do.
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Live Nation will get a slap on the wrist in the form of a fine and then continue on their merry way.
This is random, but this is the only way I can get to you..Slipknot just added 2 shows in México but why México city?? Northern mexico is better, and safer north of Monterrey is the place they need to perform. Can you please get with corey and ask him why south of México and not the northern side 😂
Live Nation might own the Judicial building so you may have to pay a few hundred bucks to see this event.
BlackRock and Vanguard own both Live Nation and the politicians.
WOW! Swifties doing something useful for once! lol
Live Nation suuuuuuuuucks!
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Eddie Vedder sued Ticket Master around 20-30 years ago, and no one would back him up, so he lost the suit. NOW people are crying about the insane cost of tix. People are ridiculous.
Oh well, it's mainly Pop acts that charge these insane prices ($300 or more) anyway. Pop fans have been getting ripped off by their favs for a long time, so they should be used to it, by now. Hundreds of dollars to watch some talentless small-brain grind like a stripper, while they lip-synch to a recording. Pathetic.
If you just let Live Nation keep raising the fees, they'll price themselves right out of business. It would be hard for a venue to be all private sky-boxes, and Ticket Master can't succeed with only 60 rich kids buying tickets for a show.
I'll be sticking with my favorite musicians, charging $30 bucks for 3-5 bands in a more intimate venue, where I can actually have a psychic connection with the bands, and the other fans. And I have no problem paying $60-$75 for an all-day music festival.